Pro group call
Dog memory systems: from Chai's food guarding to Tin Tin's snapping
- Sun 31 May 2026
- 1 hr 32 min
Sunny Luthra revisited working, associative and procedural memory, explaining how a dog's repeated experiences with emotion attached move from a short-lived scratchpad into deep, instinctive habits. The group used Reena's dog Chai, who guards his food bowl and attacks the door, as a live case study to design a looped-leash strategy that stops him running without creating new fear. The call also covered Barney and Debu's shifting dominance after a fight, and Yashika's dog Tin Tin, who snaps at familiar people on walks, showing how to let a dog's arousal peak before correcting it. Sunny stressed that effective strategies must come from understanding memory fundamentals rather than copying what worked on another dog.
Key points (6)
- Working memory fades within minutes unless an emotion is attached, and repeated emotionally-charged experiences push it into associative memory and then into deep, instinctive procedural memory.
- Chai's food-guarding and door-biting has gone into procedural memory, so the plan is to loop a long leash through a railing to safely stop him charging while building a brand new association rather than fighting the old one.
- Consistency in routines like feeding times, walk patterns and leash use helps a dog's biological clock and memory settle, which is why rituals are trained the same way every day.
- With highly aroused dogs like Tin Tin, trying to correct behaviour while he is escalating only causes frustration; it is more effective to let the reaction peak and correct him as his energy comes back down.
- Sensitive dogs form deeper, faster memories from emotional events than numb or confident dogs, which explains why trauma shows up unevenly across dogs.
- Generic trainer tricks like crate feeding for resource guarding often fail because they are not built on an understanding of how the dog's memory actually works.
- On the call
- Sunny, Sakshi, Reena, Parth, Chandan, speaker_1, Yaroslava, Kashish, Paresh, speaker_0, Yashika
Dog memory systems: from Chai's food guarding to Tin Tin's snapping
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Transcript
Hindi written in English letters. The audio is the record.
Speaker 1
Mujhe pata isse nahi pata. Next time chalo.
Sunny
So hello everyone and I think pichhle wale class mein bhi aap sab log the hi sahi. I think naye kaun hai yahan par pichhli class mein jo nahi the. Chandan shayad nahi tha.
Speaker 1
Haan.
Sunny
Aur baaki sab the right. Chalo sab ka revise ho jayega and Chandan ko bhi thodi cheezein pata hi hai iske andar. So pichhle wale lesson se kisi ke kuchh doubts hai abhi. Main wapas se revise karaunga but agar koi doubt hai kya pichhle wale koi questions reh gaye ya phir kuchh doubt aaye dimaag mein.
Sakshi
Not as of now.
Sunny
Okay.
Speaker 1
Hum sab bahut smart hain. Humko sab samajh aa gaya.
Sakshi
Mera ek question hai.
Sunny
Yeah.
Sakshi
Toh jo hum training commands aur yeh sab bhi dete hain, yeh sab bhi they all get stored in the procedural, they also come under procedural memory.
Sunny
So dekho yeah. So dekho hota aisa hai ki sabse pehle working memory se start hota hai. And then working memory mein unko turant us like us evidence par ya phir koi activity ke upar us par turant jo unko outcome milta hai ya phir jo cheez unko experience hoti hai woh like associative memory mein jaati hai.
Jab yeh continuous hota hai toh woh procedural memory mein jaata hai.
Sakshi
Right.
Sunny
So agar suppose kar lo kisi incident mein emotions included the aur ek high emotions included the toh woh jaldi procedural memory mein chala jaata hai.
Jaldi procedural memory mein chala jaata hai. So emotions saari memories ko woh karte hain, impact karte hain. Aage aayega. Aage aayega uske baare mein.
Sakshi
Thank you.
Sunny
Okay. So memory samajhna zyada important hai aur woh zyada important isliye mere khayal se sabse zyada important hai. Agar aap dog ke behavior par work karna chahte ho kyunki dog ka behavior yahin se drive hota hai. So agar dog ki memory hum badal sakte hain toh dog ka behavior bhi change ho jaata hai.
Lekin dog ki memory badalne ka koi concept nahi hota. Hai na. Uski jagah jo jis memory ke through uska kuchh bhi like behavior aa raha hai, hum ek nayi memory create karte hain. Lekin us nayi memory create karne ke liye aapko uska memory kaise work karta hai, woh pata hona chahiye.
So hum wapas se class ko le rahe hain. Second iska revision hai.
So hum poori-poori again pichhli baar mein humne poora nahi cover kiya tha. Toh is baar bhi hum sirf teen cheezon ke upar cover karenge.
Lekin memory of dog ke poore ke poore cheez mein like pehle families aati hai memory ki implicit memory and explicit memory aur jo uske baad yeh seven systems aate hain, woh isi ke andar aate hain. Lekin main baad mein bataunga kya antar hai inke andar, kyun yeh different category ke andar hai.
So hum sabse pehle yeh chhah memory ke baare mein samjhenge. Lekin yahan par maine seven systems likha hua hai kyunki seven system woh emotional modulator hai jo in sabko woh karta hai, tackle karta hai, matlab sabko impact karta hai.
So generally chhah memories ka aapke baare aapko, aapko like study karna hoga and uske baad samajhna hoga ki emotions kaise unke upar impact karta hai. Lekin aaj ki class mein hum sirf teen memory, teen tareeqe ki categories lene wale hain aur woh hai working memory, associative memory and procedural memory.
So jaise ki yahan par aap logon ne pehle bhi padha iske baare mein aur pehle bhi class li hai toh main start karunga question and answers se.
Like aap logon ne sabse pehle Kashish ne video daala tha toh unhi se poochhenge ki just like start explaining ki working memory kya hoti hai, associative memory kya hoti hai and then procedural memory kya hoti hai. Chhote mein.
Speaker 1
Chhote brief mein.
Sunny
Brief, brief mein.
Speaker 1
So working memory for dog is like unka abhi ka business as usual. Jo bhi woh kar rahe hain, woh sab unki working memory mein store ho jaati hai. Like woh let's say aaj ek nayi walk hai par woh walk par ja rahe hain. Unke liye woh ek nayi memory hai. Har memory jo bhi woh bana rahe hain that is working memory.
All the time they are working. Agar humne usko within two seconds, three seconds correct kar diya best. Two minutes ke baad it starts fading away.
Aur associative memory is jab association banana shuru kar deta hai dog. Hum usko treat dete hain, hum batate hain, usko lagta hai achha is cheez ka matlab yeh hai, ek association ban jaati hai us cheez ke saath. Phir hum aate hain procedural memory par.
Toh usmein kya hota hai ki jab dog cheezon ke saath, objects ke saath, logon ke saath link bitha ke connection banata hai aur us cheez ki apni khud ki vocabulary bana leta hai toh woh uske liye waisa ban jaata hai. Woh negative bhi ho sakta hai, positive bhi ho sakta hai.
Phir example jaise maine kal likha bataya ki thunderstorm se Dodo darti hai. Woh negative memory. But unke liye leash automatically matlab ho jaata hai ki walk aur woh walk ke woh raaste yaad kar lena ki hum usually kahan se nikalte hain, kya cheez ko avoid karna hai, yahan gaddha hai, isse bachna hai.
Toh aise bachta.
Sunny
So.
Speaker 1
Repetition.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah repetition hota hai. So ab jaise inhone ek baat boli, Kashish ne ek baat boli ki working memory store ho jaati hai. Toh working memory store hoti hai kya? Koi jawab dega iska? Store nahi hoti.
Speaker 1
Nahi hoti.
Sakshi
Nahi hoti.
Speaker 1
Nahi hoti.
Sunny
Kya store, kya store hota hai phir working memory? Kab store hoti hai phir working memory?
Speaker 1
Jab procedural memory bane.
Sunny
Nahi, working memory kab store hoti hai?
Speaker 1
Jab associative banti hai aur baad mein repeat karte-karte woh.
Sakshi
Aap baar-baar correct karte ho, woh associative mein association bithane lag jaata hai ki oh mujhe is par dhyan dena hai. Oh mujhe is par dhyan dena hai.
Sunny
Yeah, so working memory matlab andar tabhi ghusti hai jab uske saath kuchh emotions linked hote hain.
Yeh hamari pichhli wali class mein nahi hua, lekin kuchh emotions linked hote hain uske saath. Warna agar woh neutral hai toh woh store nahi hoti. Woh save nahi hoti. Koi na koi, kisi na kisi tareeqe ka emotion uske saath linked hona chahiye. Aap apni life mein bhi dekhiye.
Aapko wahi memory yaad rahegi jisse emotions linked hai. Koi emotion linked hai. Achha emotion ho sakta hai, koi trauma ho sakta hai but aapko dimaag mein yaad wahi aayengi jisse kuchh emotions linked hai. So emotions dog ki memory ko kitna deeply store karta hai, woh derive karta hai. Yes, Yaroslava ji.
Reena
Sunny mere ko na maine abhi video isliye nahi banaya tha. Mere ko thoda sa confusion hai kyunki jab humne abhi dog behavior ke baare mein baat karte hain toh we always say ki they follow pattern. So how that pattern is getting fitted in all the memories jo aap bata rahe ho.
Sunny
So, so like jaise pattern ho sakta hai unka hum example le sakte hain ki walk par jaana. Jab shuruat mein aap start karte ho toh usko pata rehta hai kya leash ka matlab walk hai? Nahi pata rehta usko. Hai na. So hum dheere dheere kya banate hain? Woh jaagta hai, ekdum dekhta hai uski working memory mein kya aata hai.
Aapne leash uthayi. Uski working memory mein leash rehti hai aur aap usko apne paas bulaate ho toh uske mann mein kya aata hai? Leash ka matlab positivity. Ek achha emotion aata hai. Lekin agar aap neutral bolenge idhar aa toh woh aayega kya? Usko ek positive ya kuch bhi ek emotion woh laayega kya?
Toh trainers kya karte hain? Usko hyper usmein karte hain. Yaani more emotional usmein jaate hain aur more phir deeply uska connection karte hain. Lekin aap wahi ek calm aawaaz mein bulaate ho, ek confident aawaaz mein bulaate ho aur neeche baith kar bulaate ho, pyaar se bulaate ho toh dog aata hai.
Toh uska kya working memory mein kya set ho raha hai? Leash is equal to pyaar. Jab hum isko regular basis par karte hain toh yeh kya kahan chali jaati hai working memory associative mein chali jaati hai. Ki working memory mein tha ki leash aayi, isne mujhe paas bulaya aur isne mujhe pyaar diya. Yaani iska matlab pyaar.
Toh jaise hi do meaning aati hai na do cheezein aati hai na woh ek associative memory hai. Association ho gaya. Leash ka, leash ka association kisse hua? Pyaar se. Leash ka association kisse hua? Baahar walk par jaane se. Theek hai, ab yeh associate, associative memory hogi. Ismein dog time lega.
Jab tak associative memory mein rehta hai toh dog react karne mein time leta hai. Okay, woh contemplate karta hai. Achha aisa aisa. Achha iska matlab yeh hai. Jab yeh continuous basis par hota rehta hai toh dog phir time nahi leta. Jab aap jaise hi sochoge uthoge woh bhi uth jaayega.
Lekin pehle aisa hota tha kya? Over a period of time yeh hua. Same with reactivity. So jo working memory thi yaani working memory mein usne kisi aur dog ko dekha aur us par attack kiya. Lekin humne usko correct nahi kiya. Okay, ya phir humne usko aur tension di. Over a period of time kya hoga?
Uski association kya ban jaayegi usse tension ki, tension ki, tension ki aur uske baad yeh procedural mein chala jaayega. Yaani ki reactivity bahut fast ho jaayegi. Aur hoti hai na dogs ke cases mein reactivity fast ho jaati hai because woh procedural usmein ja chuka hai, memory mein ja chuka hai.
So working memory mein kuch bhi store nahi hota. Information aati hai aur jaati hai. Jaise hi us par emotions ka label lagta hai na, thappa lagta hai na, woh deep jaane lagti hai memory. Woh store hone lag jaati hai.
So agar aapke koi emotions mein nahi aa rahi hai matlab kuch jo daily basis par activities ho rahi hai usmein emotions nahi hai toh activities fade out ho jaayegi aapke dimaag se.
Matlab dog ke dimaag se bhi. Dog ke dimaag se turant hi ho jaati hai, lekin human ke dimaag se dheere dheere dheere chali jaati hai. Agar usmein emotions kuch bhi nahi hai. Agar deeply emotion linked hai uske saath toh woh memory der se jaati hai. Der se fade hoti hai. Okay, der se fade hoti hai.
So working memory is like primary thing. Toh us working memory mein kya hota hai? Dog ke paas information kahan se aati hai? Uske senses ke through aati hai. Woh dekhta hai, woh smell karta hai, woh sun, woh sunta hai. Aap usko chhoote ho ya usko bolte ho.
Hai na woh toh is tareeqe se ya phir woh kuch cheezon ko lick karta hai. Uska mean jaise suppose kar lo humne furniture ke upar woh laga diya. Kya lagaya tha?
Reena
Apple cider, apple cider.
Sunny
Apple cider vinegar. Toh woh shuruat mein jab usko kaat raha tha toh usko kya samajh, jab humne vinegar nahi lagaya tha tab usko kya mil raha tha?
Relief. Toh kaatne ka matlab kya ho gaya? Relief. Toh phir woh kya karega? Jab bhi usko relief chahiye hoga woh kya karega? Woh kaatega. Hai na woh furniture ko kaatega. Agar furniture par humne vinegar daal diya. Ab woh kaat raha hai toh usko kya mil raha hai? Shock. Usko kya mil raha hai? Shock.
Agar lagataar usko shock milega kuch time ke liye. Woh associative memory se procedural memory mein chala jaayega. Okay, toh bahut saare log kya bolte hain ki bahut saare log kya karte hain? Itna consistent nahi rehte hain ki jitna woh procedural memory mein jaa sake.
Okay, woh associative memory tak hi chhoot jaati hai aur phir kabhi lenient hone lag jaate hain toh woh fade hone lag jaata hai aur wahi puraana behavior waapas se aa jaata hai. Hai na? Kyunki associative memory abhi tak procedural memory tak nahi bani. Yaani habit nahi bani. Yes, Raina ji.
Reena
Sunny, mere ko yeh jo Chai darwaza kaatta hai, jaise abhi bhi khaana guard kar raha hai. Maine jaise hi darwaza band kiya, ab dobaara usko kaatne ki koshish kar raha hai. Do you think apple cider lagaungi toh will that give him a shock and uska mind reset ho jaayega?
Sunny
Yeah, matlab usko shock thoda shock lag sakta hai ya phir aap wahaan par like kuch ghanti rakh sakte ho kind of thing ki jaise hi woh udhar aaye, woh ghanti baj jaaye. Kyunki usko aawaaz se dikkat hai. Ya phir anything jo like vinegar bhi kaam karega.
But mujhe lagta nahi hai ki vinegar matlab woh Chai snap out ho paayega. Agar uska level bahut zyaada hai toh vinegar se- abhi bhi he is extremely aroused.
Reena
Abhi main wahi keh rahi hoon na abhi bowl ko guard kar raha hai. Darwaza jaise hi maine band kiya, band darwaze ko hi woh kaatne ki koshish kar raha hai. Aur jaise hi wahaan par aati hoon toh main wahaan par khada hokar woh growl karta hai.
So I keep standing there till he you know, goes back.
Sunny
Kabhi ghanti se kisi cheez se darta hai woh?
Reena
Normal ghanti se toh nahi aur apne ghar ki ghanti se toh maine generally desensitize kiya hua hai. In the sense ki kuch alarming nahi hai. Woh shaam ke time kabhi ajeeb time par baj jaaye toh do teen baar bhaunkega just to say ki kaun aa gaya. But it's not that he is scared.
He is scared of fire crackers ya phir light, light ke flicker hone se hi darta hai.
Sunny
So light ke flicker hone se darta hai and plus saath mein agar kisi bowl ko aise bowl takra jaate hain toh usse darta hai kya us aawaaz se?
Reena
Bahut zyaada nahi. I have tried. Bahut zyaada nahi. Main jaise kitni baar try kiya tha.
Speaker 1
Banging noise maine kiya hai. Dodo, Pino lad padi thi. Aapne Sunny bataya tha aur woh bahut ganda ladti hai. Toh maine dono unke bowls utha ke kyunki steel ke maine bartan hi lagaye hain, zor se maine maara.
Dono konon mein bhaag gayi apne. Jabki ek toh- I have tried with the steel glass and I have tried with yeh karchhiyaan aur woh sab it doesn't work on Chai.
Sunny
Yeah uska high bahut uska woh high rehta hai. Woh toh humein racket lekar hi saath aage jaana padega usko shaant karaane ke liye. So woh safe nahi ho sakta. Matlab like kyunki agar jaise Chai ki intensity bahut zyaada hai toh na usko kuch sunayi dega aur na kuch usko taste aayega.
Woh khoon nikaal leta hai kya apne munh se kabhi?
Speaker 5
Not really touchwood abhi tak aisa nahi hua.
Sunny
Matlab bite karte-karte itna aggressive nahi hota ki khoon aa jaata.
Speaker 5
Woh usi time snap karke ho jaayega na. Agar main khade, main wahaan se chali gayi toh phir woh snap karna band kar dega. But agar main khadi bhi rahoongi toh thoda-thoda woh usko attack karta rahega. Phir pehle main chup rahi. Phir maine usko bola settle down.
Phir maine socha ki main thoda aaraam se baat karoon. Baat karoon ki na karoon. Thodi der shaanti bhi rakh li. Ab maine thodi der baad bola beta dahi kha lo. Toh phir uske baad thoda growl kiya. Phir main chup rahi. Phir woh wahaan se maine kaha settle down. Phir main aa gayi wahaan se toh woh bhi wahaan chala gaya.
Wahaan bowl ke paas baith gaya guard kar.
Sunny
Wahi matlab uske like ek hi cheez bachi hai isme karne ke liye ki racket se usko face karna. Matlab like koi behaviorist aake ya phir aap matlab practice kar sakoge racket se usko face karna ya phir koi aakar aapko dikha sake ki kaise face karna hai. Kyunki uski.
Speaker 5
Maine distance se toh kiya. Distance se toh kiya hai maine. Aaj matlab like what I did was jaise hi main bowl rakhti hoon na woh immediately aata hai ki main jaise hi darwaaza band karoongi. So today what happened was maine kaha main darwaaza hi nahi band karti ki ekdum se toh jaise skid karta hai na scooter.
Woh ekdum se aate-aate usko laga darwaaza toh band hi nahi hua. Woh ekdum se hi woh sudden usko woh ho gaya shocker type laga usko.
Phir jab woh door chala gaya, baith gaya tab maine aaraam se darwaaza kiya. But jaise hi main darwaaza band kar li toh woh ekdum se aakar again he attacked the closed door.
Sunny
Woh dekhiye abhi ek aur dekho do tareeqe se isko handle kar sakte hain, hai na. First tareeqa toh lawn tennis ka racket hai jo aapko abhi suit nahi ho raha. Doosra tareeqa yeh hota hai ki like koi-koi grill hai ya phir kisi bhi tareeqe se aap usme se, pehle bhi shaayad bataaya tha maine aapko leash nikaal kar.
Matlab leash ko apne haath mein rakh ke long leash hoti hai aur udhar grill par jahaan par dog ka bowl hai. Hai na udhar us wahaan par ek grill par ek aise U karke nikaal kar aur dog ko pehna de aur ek haath se apne aap usko control kar sakte hain taaki woh hamaari taraf nahi aaye.
Getting a point kaise kheench sakte hain? Matlab agar humne aise kuch hook mein phansa di aur phir usko nikaala lekin haath mein hamaare rakhi hui hai leash ko.
Samajh mein aa raha hai kya keh raha hoon?
Speaker 5
Nahi, mujhe nahi pata chal raha.
Sunny
Toh suppose, suppose karo kidhar hai kidhar hai light nahi hai.
Speaker 5
Yeh pehle nahi discussion mein aaya. Yeh kabhi nahi discuss hua pehle.
Sunny
Okay so.
Speaker 5
Woh mera sirf apple cider se connection tha. Aap apna memory waala woh kar lo. Yeh phir baad mein last mein kar lenge. Mujhe lagta hai we lose track. Mujhe woh apple cider se aaya tha ki maybe that can work.
Sunny
Apple ya apple toh yeh woh memory ke oopar hi hai. Jo yeh baat hai actual mein aap jaise, jaise kaun bataayega isko kaise theek kar sakte hain. Chai ka yeh, yeh association kaise hata sakte hain? Ab woh procedural memory mein aa chuka hai Chai ke. Toh woh sochta nahi hai. Hai na? Woh sochta nahi hai.
Bahut time iske saath yeh association ho chuki hai. So achhi case study hai. Matlab it's not ki yeh achhi case study hai. Aap zara isme dekho ki kaise working se woh associative mein gaya aur woh kaise associative se procedural mein gaya aur hum kaise usko wahaan se hata sakte hain.
Kaun lega isko? Kaun bataayega? Matlab yeh bhool jaao Reena ji ki kya capability hai aur kya woh hai. Abhi yeh bhool jaao. Hai na mujhe.
Speaker 5
Maine toh lekin khud bhi abhi bhi jab pehle waala bowl hataaya woh waise hi kar raha hai ki distract karke usko finally chal ke ki hum car mein ghoomne jaa rahe hain kuch karke toh he came aur phir maine phir darwaaza band karke phir uthaaya.
Sunny
Lekin isse memory change nahi ho rahi.
Speaker 5
Nahi change ho rahi. Distraction hai.
Sunny
Kya aapko aur bataayega? Yes.
Reena
Main bataaoon. So whenever he is like ki jab bhi woh door ke paas jaata hai, ya toh hum usko kuch aisi cheez dein. His association with food is strong. Toh hum usko wahaan par usko divert karein ki jab bhi woh door ke paas guard karne ke liye jaayega, hum use kuch aur cheez dein taaki uska mann badal wahaan se.
So he is like.
Sunny
Abhi bahut zyaada uska usme intensity hai ki woh yeh sab cheezein nahi dekhega. Woh seedha attack karega. Matlab yeh uska matlab woh hai. Toh uski intensity bahut zyaada hai. Woh kuch sun nahi sakta. Hai na? Kuch sunaayi nahi dega usko. Woh agar kaatega bhi toh, toh usko vinegar ka pata nahi, pata nahi chalega.
Kuch treat phenkoge toh usko dikhegi bhi nahi. Woh seedha aakar attack karega darwaaze ke oopar. Toh aap woh use nahi kar sakte. Toh kaise, kaise karoge isko control? Kaise karoge?
Speaker 5
But woh food motivated hai right?
Sunny
Is samay par kaam nahi aayega.
Reena
Wahi mera tha ki food motivated hai toh shaayad.
Speaker 5
Food nahi kha raha.
Reena
Achha food nahi kha raha hai lekin guard woh kar raha hai bas bowl ko.
Speaker 5
Woh guard tabhi karta hai jab usko food motivated, jab uski tabiyat kharaab hai ya food motivated nahi hai.
Ab nahi kha raha na tabhi guard karta hai. Jaise hi woh kha lega tab koi problem hi nahi aati.
Reena
Basically dogs ke instinct hote hain ki apna khaana bacha le. I guess Parth and Linzy.
Sunny
So, so kaun bataayega? Parth bataao.
Parth
Sir jaise abhi uski association hai ki gate par koi bhi aayega, woh usko guard karne ke liye aage react karega. Toh khaana pada hoga. Haan, khaana pada hoga. Toh what we can do is we can get a fence. Jaise woh playpen waala na tha metal ka. Gate par, pehle gate par jaane se pehle woh fence rakh do. Phir aap jaao.
Aap gate khologe, woh seedha aayega react karne. Hum wahin khade rahenge. Toh pehle toh woh shaanti waala ho gaya and then we will push the fence inside. Uski ek naya association pathway banaayenge ki tere react karne se bhi hum nahi hat rahe aur hum andar aa sakte hain.
And then gradually hum space claim karte-karte jaayenge.
And then hum isko baar-baar repeat karenge taaki woh associative memory mein jaayega and dheere-dheere ek naya pathway banega uski memory ka aur hum usko phir procedure mein chala jaayega ki is human ka aana matlab mere ko side hona aur main wahaan par claim nahi kar sakta.
Sunny
Agar usne fence par kaatna chaalu kiya aur woh peeche nahi hata toh.
Parth
Toh fence pehle toh metal ka lenge aur doosra usko aap oopar se pakdoge so that aap enough space bana sako apne aap ko bite bachaane se. Aur agar woh zyaada reactivity mein aata hai toh fence mein bahut loud hota hai. Agar aap usko bajaoge toh woh startled ho sakta hai.
To a certain extent kyunki woh fence bahut bada hai. Maine try kiya.
Sunny
Bahut se, bahut se dogs us aawaaz par aur aggressive bhi ho jaate hain.
Parth
Ho sakta hai. But aapko wahaan par apna position hold karna hai.
Aapko apne aap ko energy apni maintain karni hai. Apna kaam nahi chhodna hai. Aap ek haath mein racket bhi rakh sakte ho taaki agar woh fence ke side se aaye toh aap racket se block kar do. Fence isliye taaki aapko ek bada area mile compared to racket apne aap ko defensive usme rakhne ka.
Sunny
Aur koi bataayega? Yes Chandan.
Chandan
Meri, main isme aisa karoonga ki pehle sabse pehle long walk doonga taaki intensity kam ho jaaye energy aur phir uske baad yeh saari cheezein try hongi long leash ya fencing ke baahar.
Sunny
Okay, okay.
Speaker 5
Par woh subah hi walk wagairah sab kar aaya hai aur is time par walk par jaa hi nahi raha hai aur subah se usne paani bhi nahi piya, khaaya bhi nahi hai.
So mujhe bhi darr lag raha hai aise mein walk par kaise lekar jaaoon ki aur kahin heat stroke ho jaaye ya kuch aur tabiyat kharaab ho jaaye because he is not eating anyway, he is unwell.
Toh aise mein phir walk wagairah karke kaise uski intensity is time jo hai food reactivity ya food aggression mein bahut zyada dikh rahi hai par walk ke liye motivated nahi hai abhi.
Sunny
Woh, woh, yeh start kab hua?
Speaker 5
Aaj subah he didn't. Kal raat tak woh theek tha. Aaj subah se usne khana nahi khaya. Aaj subah se.
Sunny
Achha woh pet, pet ka issue aur in sab cheezon ka issue.
Speaker 5
Haan, loose motion hua. Haan, usko loose motion hua aaj.
Sunny
Okay, okay. Kya aur koi batayega iske baare mein? Ya Chandan.
Chandan
Toh jaise Sunny ne bola na yeh abhi procedural memory mein ja chuka hai. Toh mere hisaab se ki pehle ek na poora reset karna padega life by itself in terms of overall routine.
Matlab abhi uska jis time par walk hota hai ya jis tareeqe se uska walk hota hai plus phir jis tareeqe se entry hota hai, food hum rakhte hain, ek woh poora ek change obviously slowly karna padega lekin ek reset karna padega.
And then comes the technique part jahan par ki obviously woh racket ya phir fence ke doosre side se leash guidance karke hum usko correct kar sakte hain. Lekin ek poora reset karna hi padega routine because he is learning every day by repeating it now.
Sunny
Okay, okay.
Chandan
Ab yeh aur bhi intensity badhta hi jayega uska. Mujhe aisa lagta hai.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah woh toh badhta jaata hai. Yes Sakshi ji.
Sakshi
Ek minute sorry, Mamita ji wants to get in yeh meeting ke liye baar-baar she is messaging on Telegram. Sunny aapko aur aapko.
Sunny
Okay, okay kar de unko. Pata hi nahi chala yahan se kab aayi. Okay. Yes so, yes Sakshi ji.
Sakshi
Toh mere matlab procedural memory aapko overwrite karni padegi with a new memory for sure. Toh aap kya kar sakte ho ki ismein aapko do bande lagenge mere according se. Jo ek completely Chai ke saath leash par hoga and kyunki usko startle karna hai, thoda distract karna hai.
You can also use spray bottles jo hota hai thoda sa. Maybe ho sakta hai woh shuruat mein kaam kare and ek point ke baad kaam karna band bhi kar jaaye. But in the beginning aap usse thoda sa work kar sakte ho ki jaise hi usne bite kiya usko ekdam se like senses par basically hit karna padega.
Speaker 5
Woh spray bottle ko toh dekhte hi growl karke snap karta hai.
Sunny
Yeah, woh growl karega.
Speaker 5
Haan, woh toh pehle se hi shuru mein hi woh fail ho gaya tha spray wala cheez se.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah.
Sakshi
What if woh spray bottle peeche ki taraf se spray karein aur usko nahi dikh raha. Bas usko- nahi woh ghabra jayega. Ghabra jaata hai.
Sunny
Aur chidh jayega.
Sakshi
Okay.
Sunny
So, toh generally ab dekho jaise aap sab logon ki strategies thi aur woh strategies saari step by step aur is tareeqe se hai. Lekin kayi baar humein dekhna hota hai ki dog ki intensity kya hai.
So bahut baar aisi cheezein milegi humko ki jab humein ek high intense dog milta hai na jo jiski procedural memory bahut zyada deep hai toh humein utni hi intensity se uske saamne jaana bhi padta hai. For example agar hum ek playpen use karenge ya phir hum ek, sab usko playpen hi use kar rahe hain.
Agar playpen hum use karenge toh Chai uske oopar bhi aakar attack kar sakta hai.
And then uske jo handler hoga uske oopar kood ke bhi attack kar sakta hai. Aap agar lawn tennis ka racket use, lawn tennis ka racket use karoge toh aap usko kone mein kar sakte ho.
Obviously aapki energy achhi honi padegi aur aapki awareness bhi achhi honi padegi kyunki woh idhar-udhar ghoomega aur pair ke neeche aane ki koshish karega kaatne ke liye apni, apni intensity mein. So aise dog ki jagah mein ek nayi memory create karni hoti hai na.
Aur plus agar aap lawn tennis ya phir pen wala kaam use karoge ya phir koi bhi aisi cheez use karoge usmein negative association banne ke chances bhi high rahenge because of the intensity, because of the intensity. So usmein negative association bhi aage ban, ban sakte hain agar poora follow through nahi ho paaya toh.
You are getting my point? Agar humne follow through nahi kiya aur hum usko corner kar rahe hain aur hum corner karte-karte woh ghabraya hai aur humein dekh raha hai aur neeche baith gaya aur baith ke humein dekh raha hai aur hum peeche hat gaye toh hamari association kya ho rahi hai abhi usse?
Insecurity ki. Woh hamari taraf aur snap kar sakta hai jab usko mauka milega toh. Okay, kyunki insecurity ki woh cheez hai. Toh aise dogs ke saath humein kya karna hota hai na, aise dogs ke saath humein leash use karni padti hai khane ke time par. Leash use karni padti hai.
Aur hum leash kaise, leash, leash humein aise use karni hoti hai ki jahan par hum usko allow karein woh hamari taraf bhaag kar aa sake. Lekin hum safely usko rok sakein. Safely humein rok sakein.
So jaise hi dog hamare paas bhaag ke aana start hota hai aur woh ekdam usko jhatka lagta hai aur woh ruk jaata hai ki yeh kya hua? Because leash ke, leash ki wajah se. Kyunki leash hamare haath mein hai. Lekin leash hamare haath mein kaise hoti hai? Railing hoti hai, hai na? Ya phir koi bhi ek hook hai.
Usmein se uska clip nikal kar dog pe lagta hai. Getting my point? Usmein se, us railing mein se ya uske hook mein se woh clip nikalta hai, woh dog ke oopar lagta hai.
Dog freely ghoomta hai but still hum usko chhota-bada kar sakte hain. Getting my point? Hum usko chhota-bada- nahi nahi samajh aaya.
Speaker 5
Sorry Sunny.
Sunny
So railing mein poora hook nikla hua hai uska leash ka.
Speaker 1
Mujhe samajh aaya.
Sunny
So dog agar hamari taraf aa raha hai toh hum leash chhodenge toh, toh dog hamari taraf aa payega. Lekin agar humne leash kheench li toh dog humse door jayega. Getting the point? Kyun?
Agar hook ke andar se nikla hua hai, hook ke andar se, hook ke andar se nikla hua hai toh jaise hi woh seedha jayega yaani leash humein aur chhodni padegi. Tab jaake woh seedha ja sakta hai kyunki leash hook se nikal kar us par aa rahi hai. Toh woh aage ja raha hai toh hum usko leash ko dheeli chhod rahe hain.
Yaani woh aage aa sakta hai hamare paas. Lekin hum usko control bhi kar sakte hain, rok bhi sakte hain.
So phir kya ho sakta hai na? Phir hum darwaze ko aise, aise kar sakte hain agar woh nahi kha raha toh. Aur woh phir bhi darwaze ke paas nahi aa payega. Humein use darwaze ke paas aane se rokna hai. Uski memory darwaze ke paas aakar trigger ho jaati hai. Jaise hi darwaze ke paas aaya then start.
Agar darwaza khula tha toh woh ruk gaya. Getting the point? Kyunki darwaza, darwaza khula hua tha aur woh darwaze ki taraf bhaag ke ja, darwaze ki taraf bhaag ke ja raha tha toh ekdam skid kiya aur ruk gaya. Ekdam skid kiya aur ruk gaya. So darwaza band rahega ya band ho raha hoga toh woh bite karna chaalu karega.
Lekin agar hamare haath mein racket hai toh woh racket ko bhi bite karega. Agar hum playpen rakh rahe hain, woh playpen ko bhi bite karega. Humein kya chhudana hai uska? Uska biting behavior.
Toh hum leash ek hook mein se nikalenge aur jaise hi woh bhaag kar aane lagega, hum leash ko pakad lenge taaki woh bhaag ke pahunch nahi sake hamare paas.
Aur jaise hi woh hamare paas pahunchega nahi woh ekdam rukega ki ye kya hua? Woh door ruka. Phir hum usko dheere, dheere, dheere, dheere peeche kheenchengee. Kheench sakte hain na hum usko peeche aise karke. Phir darwaze ko aise karenge aur phir chhodenge taaki woh phir aaye uske paas.
Hum ye tab tak karte rahenge jab tak woh aana band nahi kar dega is cheez ko. Yes, Kashish.
Speaker 1
Sunny aisa na Dodo bhi karti hai. Jab woh khaana nahi khaati toh apna food baith ke guard karti rehti hai. Aaj man nahi hai, garmi hai toh khaana nahi khaana. That is okay. Toh pehle mere husband jab uthata tha toh usko toh woh karti thi. I would go within a very assertive energy aur main baithti thi uski aankhon mein.
Usne mujhe dekha, maine usko dekha aur maine woh bowl hata liya. Eventually usko samajh aa gaya ki ye aise woh kare, kar raha hai.
Ye aayegi, utha degi aur it is okay ki agar nahi khaana hai toh woh khaana ja sakta hai. Mera ye kehne ka matlab hai ki ab kya humein Chai ke case mein kuch nayi agar memory develop karni hai toh jab hum memory develop karte hain toh kuch humein pehle usko break karne ke liye ek baar ke liye bas hum ye kar rahe hain.
Kahin ye association mein toh nahi change ho jaayega ki main bowl ke paas jaaunga toh har baar iska matlab hai ki main aise attack kar raha hoon.
Sunny
Nahi. So sabse pehle jaise abhi hum koi similar cases dekhte hain na toh hum us similarity dog ki intensity se bhi dekhte hain. Sirf aisa nahi dekhte ki mere dog mein food guarding thi toh baaki dog mein bhi food guarding hai. Toh jo uske saath matlab hum jo kar rahe hain wahi same cheez tareeqe se. Woh aisa nahi hota.
Dog ki intensity sabse zyada matter karni hoti hai.
So Chai ki intensity different hai. You know, ek panic ki inter-intensity mein aata hai. So jab aap, jab woh khaana khaane ja raha hai, hum tab nahi rok rahe. Hum tab usko woh nahi rok rahe. Jab woh bhaag kar aata hai attack karne ke liye tab woh roka ja raha hai. Tab woh stop kiya ja raha hai.
Toh uske dimaag mein procedural memory kya set hai abhi? Khaana, human, darwaza, bite. So uske dimaag mein aata hi nahi. Uske dimaag mein khaana and then biting. Darwaza laga hua hai toh. Wahaan human khada hua hai toh. So agar humein ye cheez ko break karna padega toh humein kya karna padega?
Uske bhaagne ko, darwaze ki taraf bhaagne ko rokna padega. Toh hum usko kaise rokenge? Agar hum usko, humne usko lawn tennis se roka toh kya hoga? Woh wahaan par aayega aur hum usko peeche bhejenge. Toh hamesha kya hoga? Woh wahaan par aayega aur hum usko wahaan se peeche bhejenge.
Getting my point? Kya hoga?
Speaker 1
Ye stage abhi breaking ka stage hai, right? Abhi iske liye ek nayi associate, association nahi ban rahi, right?
Sunny
Iske liye hum nayi memory create kar rahe hain.
Speaker 1
Right, right, right.
Sunny
Hai na? Hum uske through nahi guzar rahe. Woh ek deep memory ban chuki hai. Hum ek nayi memory create kar rahe hain. Toh agar aap- These are the first steps, right?
Speaker 1
Mere ko ye jaanna hai ki ye uski hum eventually yahi doosri memory thodi create kar paayenge.
Sunny
Working memory, working memory kya ho raha hai? Saamne koi hai, kaato. Hai na? Ye uski working memory hai. Humne usko kya kara? Rok diya. Jaise usne kaatne ka socha. So kaatne ka thought ruk gaya uska. Kaatne ka trigger chhoot gaya uska. Bite karne ka woh cheez chhoot gaya.
Ab isko aap lagataar karoge is kind of thing ko. Toh woh kahaan se rok rahe hain hum? Hum uske bhaagne se rok rahe hain. Woh wahaan par khade hokar nahi kaatta. Woh bhaag kar aata hai aur phir kaatta hai.
Toh hum directly kis pe, kyunki uski intensity bahut zyada hai. Toh hum, hum bhi intense ho rahe hain.
Speaker 1
Toh hum working aur association in dono memory pe hum log kaam kar rahe hain. Hum working se usko- Yes. Snap kar rahe hain.
Sunny
Nahi working.
Speaker 1
Baar-baar association. Nahi working. Haan, right.
Sunny
Nahi working memory.
Speaker 1
Right. Jab woh bhaag raha hai maan lo humne snap kiya. Uski nayi ek memory bani ki association hua, ek association hua. Eventually leading to.
A-agar Reena ji aap aisa kar sakte hain ki ye poora ek bata sakte hain ki aisa iska shuru hota hai aur aisa hai toh we can maybe read out on it and hum apne ideas ke saath aa sakte hain. Just like I will get some time to sit on it and maybe it will help.
Speaker 5
Sorry, woh wahaan pe camera, ek particular area mein camera catch nahi karta jahaan darwaza hai. I was thinking of getting another camera installed.
Speaker 1
Sorry, just, just through you matlab aap a-agar likh ke de sakte ho toh.
Speaker 5
Yeah, I'll try. Main ye naya cheez maine ki thi ki jo main bata rahi hoon na ki maine darwaza jo immediately main woh khaane ke de ke aati thi aur band karti thi. Woh maine aaj stop kiya. That worked for a few seconds ki woh waapas jaake baith gaya. But woh baith gaya toh down toh jo of course woh calm nahi tha.
Aroused hi hoga. Baith gaya woh bowl ke paas. Tab maine aake band kiya. Toh mujhe us, woh time mil gaya darwaza lock karne ka. But woh phir bhi bhaaga hua aaya. Toh mujhe lag raha hai ki do you think of course it's very risky ki agar main woh darwaza band hi na karoon toh what will happen?
Sunny
Bahut risky hai. Bahut risky hai woh.
Speaker 5
Agar koi bhi wahaan pe idhar-udhar aayega toh usko kaatega phir woh.
Sunny
Woh, woh risky hai, bahut zyada risky hai. Agar koi parchhaai bhi aayi toh usse bhi woh gurraayega.
Khaane ke time par. Agar agar aap wahaan se nikal rahe ho aur aapki parchhaai bhi aa gayi wahaan par toh woh usse gu-gu woh har ek woh koi bhi sight mein kuch bhi aayega, ghur raha hoga woh khaane ke time par.
Speaker 5
Infact Sunny yahi cheez maine kal aur parson bhi jab call chal rahi thi I faced last two days a very weird thing ke main dopahar ko baahar terrace par bahut garmi hoti hai toh main isko andar deti hoon and I generally I know ki woh food motivated hai, andar tang nahi karega toh mere ko tension nahi hoti hai and I am confident I am giving him.
So what happened was ki wahaan se dhoop aa rahi thi darwaze se, isi darwaze ko jisko kaatta hai. Toh maine jahaan bowl rakha tha wahaan kahin par kuch shadow aayi hai ya kuch aayi hai so he went wahaan par khaane ke time par usko woh shadow nazar aayi hai. He got scared.
Woh peeche aaya aur bowl ki taraf baar-baar ja raha tha, waapas aa raha tha aur I got stuck in the kitchen area jo ki invisible boundary toh banaai hui hai but main wahaan se move karna chahti thi toh ye growl karta tha.
So it took me very, very long ki main tennis ka racket thankfully mere paas tha aur uske saath-saath karte-karte maine usko thoda waapas bheja aur finally main apne room mein bhi aa gayi and after a very long time usne kamre mein aaya and I saw ke bowl total clean nahi tha ki woh dar-dar ke poora nahi clean kar paaya and a-a matlab yesterday mujhe laga ki main apna hitch woh nahi karti toh I should repeat the same place.
Toh maine parda bhi kar diya jahaan par mere hisaab se minimum aa rahi hogi dhoop ya kya hoga mujhe nahi pata but still uski woh pehle association waise ho rahi thi. Usne khaana kar liya but uski growling aur woh bowl ke paas-paas dar-dar ke jaane waali cheez phir se ho rahi thi kal.
Sunny
Yeah so again wahi.
Speaker 5
This is again a new thing. Toh mujhe phir andar bhi khaana dena usko ab safe nahi lag raha.
Sunny
Nahi wo she- wo shadow se bhi toh react toh aise karega hi same. So again main wahi bolunga aapko ki jaise uske bhaagne ka ek wo bana hua hai ki jab bhi usko kuch dar lagta hai toh wo bhaag jaata hai aur khaane ke time par agar usko dar lag raha hai aur wo bhaag raha hai toh wo aur gehri association create karta hai.
So aise dogs ko hum hamesha recommend karte hain ki leash ke upar hi khaana do taaki wo bhaag nahi sake. Lekin wo leash ke upar aap bol rahe ho ki aapko takleef aati hai lekin humein koi way find toh karna hi padega jahan par aap usko safely wahan par rok sako.
Ya toh aap karo ya toh phir hum like koi trainer, koi behaviorist aake uske saath ye practice karein ki humne usko wo loop mein lekar humne leash lagayi hai and then hum ye practice kar rahe hain toh ye ek din mein khatam ho jaayega. Kyunki ek din mein khatam hai.
Speaker 5
I don't know yahan par jo trainers hai na wo toh uh phir wahi crate training aur jaise maine teen saal aise pehle nikaale hain crate ke andar hi bowl dena hai, wo hai.
Usmein I faced a different problem ki agar wo khaana guard kar raha hai crate mein hai toh chalo theek hai but usmein crate se nikaalna hi mushkil ho jaata hai because tum gate khologe wo neeche kholte hi tum par pounce karega.
So that again became a different difficult thing jiski wajah se I found an alternative ke main terrace par deti hoon jahan do doors hain, ek taraf se jaao, ek taraf se aao. So main har baar kuch naya improvise kar rahi hoti hoon. Mere se worked out nahi ho raha hai utna.
Sunny
Toh ye sirf wo leash wala work karega kyunki. Sirf leash wala work karega.
Speaker 5
Toh leash se uska association bahut great nahi hai. Matlab like walk mein zyada apni marzi se.
Sunny
Koi doosri leash lekar aao. Matlab ek lambi leash aati hai. Wo har ek cheez se alag association create kar lete hain. Matlab thoda pattern uska alag hoga, thode mota uska hoga. Ek lambi leash aati hai, 25 feet ki leash aati hai. Hai na 20 feet.
Speaker 5
I have 20 feet wali. I have 20 feet wali bhi.
Sunny
Toh shuruat mein usko wahin par hi laga ke rakho.
Hai na aur usko dheere se bulao apne paas and then usko phir leash lagao and then phir usko wahan chhod jaao. Lekin leash tightly idhar ki taraf bandhi hui ho matlab opposite side mein. I mean opposite side mein.
Speaker 5
Agar koi video ho toh mujhe bata do taaki main kuch mujhe nahi samajh aa raha abhi bahut achhe se.
Sunny
Mere, mere puraane clients ka main video dekhta hoon. Maine unko aise hi bataya tha. So I will check, check that out ki wo aisa hoga ya phir agar nahi mila mujhe video toh main ek demo karke bata doonga kaise karne ka hai usko.
Speaker 5
Haan leash ke saath hi aap kahin par karke bata dena mujhe.
Sunny
Yes, main leash ke saath hi.
Speaker 5
Mera aaj jo hai na it's been a tough day for me and I just hope he eats nahi toh I will get very stressed ki bhai kal doctor ke liye jaana padega ya IVs dilwaani padengi. I don't know what the problem.
Sunny
Nahi kuch bhi nahi karaana padega. Ho- ho sakta hai kuch pataakha phoota ho ya kuch stress mein aa gaya ho kisi tareeqe se wo. Toh koi aisa waale wali uh wo kya wo khaana khaate time wo stress mein aa gaya tha na.
Kuch ho gaya tha usko.
Speaker 5
Do din se, do din se lunch mein ho raha hai. Mornings mein nahi lunch mein yeh cheez hui hai. So aur main lunch mein deti isliye hoon kyunki us time par servants waghera koi nahi hota. Ghar par help ka problem nahi hota. Main achhe se usko obedience training bhi kara deti hoon aur de deti hoon.
Bada calm environment hota hai tab deti hoon. Phir uske baad phir se saara commotion shuru ho jaata hai toh mujhe usko feed karaana mushkil hota hai. I give him early morning at 5:30 and then I give him at around 2:30, 3 o'clock when I come back from work. Toh I need to.
Speaker 1
Yes, Chai ko bahut zyada zaroorat hai us commotion ke during bhi uh shaanti rehne ki. Right. Wo, wo iska poora pattern change kar dega and it will take a lot out of Reena ji but I guess that will really work in long term.
Sunny
Yeah matlab lekin wo dog ke saath waise hi karna padega ki jaise hi wo khaane ke time par bhaag raha hai toh wo bhaage nahi, khaane ke time par wo attack kar raha hai toh wo attack kare nahi.
Toh agar hum ye cheezon par cover kar lenge toh uski baaki memories matlab baaki tareeqe se behavior bhi change hone lag jaayega. Phir uske baad solution find out karne hote hain aur uska solution ek hi tareeqe ka like simple tareeqe ka wahi hai wo leash loop karke lekar aane ka. Taaki hum usko chhoti badi kar sakein.
Hai na aur usko dog ko moment, moment de sake ki wo move ho sake lekin bhaag ke kaat- kaat- kaatne nahi aa sake. So over a period time wo theek ho jaata hai. But I will share some video with you jisse aapko aur samajh mein aayega kaise karna hai. Okay.
Speaker 5
Koi aur volunteer bhi nahi karta na is chance ko lene ke liye. Na mere waise hi domestic helpers aajkal nahi hai mere paas so I am overstressed. Toh koi bhi iske liye volunteer karne ko taiyaar nahi hota. Uske panga koi nahi lena chahta. Toh waise hi main phansti hoon. Isi liye maximum bites bhi mujhe hi hue hain.
Toh isi liye mujhe lagta hai pehle main jab bilkul apne good energy ke saath bhi jaati thi, assertive energy ke saath shuru mein toh tabhi mere ko ek bade saare bites hue.
Toh isliye mujhe uh har baar hit and trial se hi kayi-kayi cheezein maine instinctively kayi-kayi cheezein kar liya.
Sunny
Yeah wo, wo thoda, wo trauma toh baith jaata hai ek baar bite hone ke baad. Phir dar toh lagne lag jaata hai dog se. Matlab haath apne aap hi hatne lag jaata hai ki kaat nahi le kyunki it's like wo hota hi hai. Humaare saath bhi hota hi hai.
Hum bhi jab bhi kabhi bite hota hai toh humein bhi thoda time lag jaata hai overcome hone ke liye aur bahut baar toh pata bhi nahi rehta ki hum abhi tak overcome nahi hue. Doosre dog se milte hain aur wo aise karta hai aur humaara haath aise hil jaata hai. Maine kaha bey ye kya hua?
Speaker 5
Because of the same mere ko Chai ki wajah se main work nahi loge. Pets ko bhi main pet nahi kar paati. Because mujhe pata hai ki wo pet sensitive matlab touch sensitive hai toh jinke dogs comfortable waale bhi hain par wo naturally mere andar se aata hi nahi hai unko pet karna.
Mere andar wo hesitation rehti hai ki pata nahi main theek kar rahi hoon ki nahi kar rahi hoon ya snap toh nahi kar dega dog.
Sunny
Haan snap toh nahi kar dega.
Speaker 1
Reena ji aapki energy bhi role play kar rahi hai. Ismein aap thode se hesitant ho. Thoda sa kar liya karte ho.
Speaker 5
Mujhe haan bilkul hai. But I also want to know ki yahan par kitne log hain jinke dogs ke biting cases hue hon 20-25 baar and who have handled well.
Sunny
Ya matlab mere- I really want to know that also. Matlab mere saath hue aur mere ko pata hai ki aapki jo bhi- mere saath bhi hue. Genuine hai matlab.
Speaker 1
Mere saath bhi.
Sunny
Genuine hai wo.
Speaker 1
Doosre ke dogs pakde, bhagaate hue kahan le gaye aur main unke ghar par sorry, sorry keh rahi thi. Pomeranian and Pino and they are running in the whole society. And wo leash weash aur mere ko aisa poora aisa sab society ne aise pakad liya ki aap kaise ho?
I said no, I am really sorry. Usne apne aap ko usse dikha diya. Toh tab se maine harnesses use karna band kar diya tha because usse pehle mujhe lagta tha ki harness bahut zaroori hai and it is really hard but we will find it together Reena ji don't worry.
Sunny
So Reena ji toh like right now toh uske khaane par dhyaan de lete hain ki wo khaana khaa le apna aur mere khayal se kal tak khaana khaa lega. Abhi kaafi stress mein hai toh it's completely okay.
Wo khaana chhod dete hain and then phir uske baad hum aise chhodte nahi hai ki jaise jab issues aane lagte hain toh phir hum uske upar thoda aur serious ho jaate hain. Lekin hum ise continuous basis par serious rehte hain uske upar ki yeh cheez par kaam karna hi karna hai.
Hum like aisa nahi karte ki jab mauka aayega tab karenge apan uske upar kaam.
Speaker 1
Yeah.
Sunny
So food kyunki food ka aapne bahut time se bataya hua hai. Darwaaze ka bhi bahut bataya hua hai ki wo kaafi times ho raha.
Lekin hum uske upar work nahi kar pa rahe. So ek baar koshish karte hain leash wala hum istemaal karke dekhte hain and dekhte hain wo kaise badalta hai. Lekin kal ke liye toh kuch bhi nahi. Jaise uske khaane par dhyan dijiye and wo khaana kha lega toh koi ghabraane ki zaroorat nahi hai us cheez ke liye. Hai na?
Matlab stress mein bohot hai wo aur aap bhi like stress aa hi jaati hai toh common si baat hai. Complete natural hai yaar. Matlab hum bhi khud bhi humare dogs bhi khaana nahi khaate hain. Aisa hota hai toh stress toh banta hi hai. And then uske baad phir dog jo react karta hai toh usse toh aur stress banta hai na.
Aage aane wale par kya karne, matlab kya karenge? Agar kuch problem hogi toh phir vet ke paas lekar jaana and all these cheezein hain. Kaafi stressful rehta hai agar dogs mein issues hain toh. So I understand completely.
So that's, yeah so, so dekhiye hai na jitni bhi dogs ki memory hoti hai na agar us hisaab se chalenge toh humare paas strategies ekdam pinpoint wali aa sakengi.
For example agar hum yahan par dekh lein ki procedural memory bohot deep ja chuki hai is jagah par. Ab hum associative memory par changes nahi kar rahe. Hum procedural memory par change kar rahe hain. Toh shuruat se start karte hain what is working memory? So working memory dog ki 1 se 2 minute ki hoti hai.
Unka scratch pad hota hai. Agar usme koi emotion ka wo nahi lagta hai like koi thappa nahi lagta hai toh wo fade ho jaati hai turant hi. Wo chali, wo chali jaati hai.
So agar dog ne kuch kharaab kiya hua hai, kuch phaada hua hai, kuch usne 1 minute pehle ya 2 minute pehle ya 5 minute pehle kuch bhi bite kiya hai toh jaise-jaise time badhta jaata hai waise-waise uski memory chali jaati hai. Iska kehne ka matlab kya hai? Agar aap usko correct karoge toh uski efficiency kam hogi.
Yaani work karne ke chances kam honge uske correction ke. Toh jaise-jaise time jaata hai, aage badhta jaata hai correction ka meaning khatam ho jaata hai.
Okay, aapke dimaag mein hoga ki aap usko uske liye correct kar rahe ho jo usne phaada hai. Lekin uske dimaag mein kya hai ki abhi right now kya chal raha hai, wo kuch kharaab ho raha hai. Okay, wo kuch kharaab ho raha hai. So working memory ka fayda hota hai.
Wo hume, hume, hume like hume ek cheez hume, hume batata hai ki hume usko kab correct karna hai aur kab nahi karna. Okay? Toh uske baad associative memory aati hai. Ab associative memory mein kya hota hai? Humne working memory mein usko kuch sikhaya. Ab hum consistent hain us cheez ko lekar.
Yaani hum walk par jaane ke liye consistent hain. Yaani ki hum neck ka collar hi use karte hain. Yaani ki hum harness hi use karte hain. Yaani ki humne harness ek hi jagah par rakhi hui hai. Humne collar ek hi jagah par rakha hua hai. Wo associative memory create karti hai, consistency cheezon mein.
Toh for example agar aap khaana subah kabhi kisi time de rahe ho, shaam ko kisi time de rahe ho toh unki memory set nahi ho rahi ki khaana unko kab milne wala hai.
Toh ho sakta hai dog poore din bhar hi anxious rahe kyunki unko pata hi nahi hai khaana kab aayega. Lekin agar dog ko pata rehta hai ki khaana kab aata hai, ye bhai subah aata hai, is samay aata hai, is samay aata hai.
Jab chidiya is tareeqe se bol rahi hoti hai, jab sooraj ki light is tareeqe se ho rahi hoti hai, hai na? Ya duniya temperature is tareeqe ka hota hai tab aapko kya lagta hai biological clock kya hoti hai dog ki? Toh logon ko, logon ko kya lagta hai na biological clock kya hoti hai?
Jaise yahan ghadi hoti hai na, waise unke andar ghadi hoti hai. Toh ye samjhaane ke liye wo baat ki hai. Asliyat mein aisa nahi hota. Biological clock ka matlab hota hai biological clock sun rays bhi measure karti hai, temperature bhi measure karti hai. Hai na?
Sirf yahi nahi sun rays bhi measure karti hai, temperature bhi measure karti hai. Toh kayi baar aisa hoga ki agar temperature kam hoga aur dog ko like dog ko khaana aap shaam ko late shaam ko dete ho aur temperature kam hoga toh wo pehle khaana maangne lag jaayenge.
Just because temperature shaam wala abhi ho gaya. So generally jab mausam change hote hain tab ye differences hume dekhne ko milte hain. So dog ke saath consistency bohot zyada matter karti hai. Hai na? So usko temperature tak bhi consistent lagta hai. Hai na? Apne, apne memory ko set karne ke liye.
So ye temperature ho gaya aur is tareeqe ka andhera ho gaya. Yaani ki ab khaane ka abhi dinner ka time hai. Wo aisa thodi ki abhi saade chhe nahi baji bhai. Wo ye sab nahi dekhte. Wo ye sab ye dekhte hain ki haan bhai temperature kam ho gaya aur ye raat ka ye andhera itna ho gaya hai, ab mere dinner ka time hai.
Wo is tareeqe se dekhte hain. So unko consistency lagti hai cheezon ke andar. Aur ye, ye training perspective se, behavior perspective se kyun zaroori hai? Kyunki working memory mein jo aapne sikhaya, toh log kya galti karte hain iske andar?
Working memory mein ek baar mana kar diya na tere ko dobaara nahi sun, dobaara nahi karne ka.
Aise bolte hain na ki ek baar tujhe bol diya tu dobaara kyun kar raha hai? Usse chidh aate hain. Hai na bhai? Ek baar mana kar toh diya lekin phir tu waapas, waapas kar raha hai. Toh humne working memory mein mana kiya. Abhi wo associative memory nahi bani hai.
Toh working memory mein aap lagataar karte jaate ho toh wo associative memory ban jaati hai. Hai na? Aur ye har ek dog ke saath common hai. Ek baar associative memory bani, banti hai toh uska same karne ka chances increase hota hai. Wo 100% wo nahi karega. Chances increase hota hai associative memory se.
Kyunki associative memory abhi bhi itni deep nahi hai. Lekin jab associative memory aur humara behavior consistent rehta hai yaani hum consistent kaise kyun karwa, consistent kyun karaate hain? Aap logon ko humne walk, humne rituals bataye bhi na, rituals of dogs. Wo rituals of dogs completely isi memory pe based hai.
Wo unki procedural memory ban jaata hai. Kyunki aap roz basis pe same cheez karte ho. Same tareeqe se walk pe lekar jaate ho, same tareeqe se khaana khilaate ho, same tareeqe se uske saath play karte ho, same tareeqe se discipline dete ho, same tareeqe se uske saath affection dete ho.
Uske aur in sab mein ek cheez common hoti hai aur wo hota hai calm submissive ki dog calm submissive hona chahiye. Jab daily basis mein calm submissive ke saath association ban rahi hai toh procedure mein kya jaayega? Hai na? Calm submissive jaayega. Toh is tareeqe se dom-dog calm submissive ki taraf pahunchta hai.
Lekin wo start kahan se hota hai? Wo working memory se hota hai. Phir uske baad wo associative memory ke andar jaata hai and then uske baad wo procedural memory mein jaata hai. Procedural memory ka simple sa yahi concept hai ki shareer ko aadat ho jaati hai.
Dimaag, toh dimaag kuch kare, dimaag kuch usko contemplate kare, usse pehle shareer react kar deta hai.
Same with fighters nahi hota. Wo itni baar fight kar chuke hote hain toh unke haath apne aap hi chalne lag jaate hain. They don't think. Wo instinctual ho jaate hain. Wo unki procedural memory mein chala gaya. Unki motor programs mein chala gaya wo. Toh dogs ke saath bhi same cheez aisa hota hai.
Working memory se associative memory mein jaata hai jab hum consistent rehte hain. Uske baad bhi hum consistent and disciplined rehte hain toh wo procedural memory mein chala jaata hai. Isliye bolte hain na ek se teen saal tak mehnat kar lo apne dog ke saath, uske baad aaraam hai, kind of thing.
Kuch aisa bolte hain na. So agar aap ek se teen saal mein tak work karte rahoge aur consistent rahoge toh dog poori life bhar us tareeqe se, us program mein jeeta hai, us procedure mein jeeta hai. Jab tak uske environment mein koi deep emotion nahi aa jaaye jo usko impact kare.
Emotion jo aage aane wale lectures mein bataunga, classes mein bataunga, wo in saari memories ko turant khatam kar sakta hai.
Turant. Kitni bhi deep hone do. Wo kitna bhi deep ja sakta hai emotions ka upar aur kitna hi deep se nikaal sakta hai. Deep ko khatam kar sakta hai. So deep bhi jaldi jaata hai. Ek emotion jab impact karta hai in sab cheezon ko, wo saari memories ko impact karta hai.
So emotions ka deep wo hai, like impact hai in sab ke upar. Yes, Sakshi ji.
Speaker 1
Jaise ki last time humne baat kari thi jab this dog after mating became extremely confident and...
Sunny
Yeah.
Speaker 1
Nahi, bas main relate karna chah rahi thi. Thank you.
Sunny
Yeah, so, so abhi usme ek aur nayi cheez batata hoon aapko. So wo confident, wo confident bana aur wo attack karna start kiya Bar, Debu ke upar.
Barney confident bana, hai na? Aur Debu ke upar attack karna start kiya. Lekin uske attack badhte ja rahe the. Wo jab bhi Debu kahin bhi nikal raha tha, aaj bhi, Debu kahin bhi nikal raha hai, wo growl kar raha hai. Lekin wo out of territorial nahi tha yaar, out of confidence nahi tha. Wo out of insecurity tha.
Out of nervousness tha. Kyunki wo drive jisne usko confidence lekar aaya tha, wo drive ab ja chuki thi. Aur us drive ne itne saare, uh, repetition nahi kare the ki uski procedural memory mein ja sake. Okay na? Aur itni saari repetition Debu ke upar bhi nahi kiye the ki Debu ki procedural memory mein ja sake.
Debu bas usko distance de raha tha. Aaj jab waapas se aisa hua toh Debu ne usko patak diya. Okay? Turant hi usko patak diya aur ek, Barney ab alag tareeqe se behave karne lag gaya.
Wo whine karne lag gaya Debu ke aate hi.
Speaker 1
How interesting.
Sunny
Yeah, Debu ke aate hi wo whine karne lag gaya. Ek minute mein uski saari ki saari memory, ek minute mein nahi jaayegi but over a period time uski associative memory khatam hona start ho gayi hai. Hai na? Cancel out hona start ho gayi. Ek nayi memory create hona start ho gayi ki Debu waapas se upar aa raha hai.
Yes, Kashish.
Speaker 1
Uh, ye isliye hai na kyunki abhi tak hum associative memory mein hi jee rahe the. Ye log, ye log procedural mein thodi pahunche the isme.
Sunny
Nahi, nahi pahunche the.
Speaker 1
Aur jaise-jaise inke saath nayi-nayi cheezein aati ja rahi hai, nayi-nayi memories aati ja rahi hai, unka character accordingly humko dikhta ja raha hai.
Sunny
So dekho, jaise suppose kar lo associative memory mein ge-generally dogs kya karte hain na, wo lagataar consistently na ek saath burst maarte hain discipline ka.
Jaise ki tum, jaise ki tum uske paas aaoge, burst, down. Tumhe phir, wo phir, phir tumhe dikhega down. Phir dikha down. Jitni baar tum dikho, matlab usko wo dikhega, wo dog doosra dikhega, wo usko down karne ki koshish karega. Jitni baar dikhega.
Speaker 1
Right.
Sunny
Har, haan, lagataar chalta rahega ye kaam. Lagataar chalta rahega jab tak uske dekhte hi wo neeche surrender nahi karega. Uske baad bhi ye chalta rahega. Uske baad bhi chalta hai.
So dog instinctively apna is behavior ko saamne waale ke dimaag mein procedural mein daalne mein lage rehte hain ki iska procedure ban jaaye. Iski, iski muscle memory ban jaaye ki ye mere ko dekhe aur ye surrender kar de. Lekin Ba, Debu ke saath itni baar nahi hua. Debu samajhdaar tha. Wo isko doori dene lag gaya.
Hai na? Doori dene laga. Iske paas rehta hi nahi tha. Doori dene lag gaya tha. Lekin hamesha isko dekhta tha, lekin doori dene lag gaya tha.
Lekin ab jab doori dena possible nahi tha toh fight hui aur usne usko patka and then turant hi bhaag kar aa gaye mere paas. Lekin ek nayi association dekh raha hoon main unke andar. Aaj hi hui hai kyunki. Ek nayi association dekh raha hoon. Toh dog whine kar raha hai. Barney whine kar raha hai Debu ke presence mein.
Lekin wo kuch time ke liye chalega. Wo waapas se again associative memory trigger ho jaayegi, barking ki aur in sab, in sab cheezon ki. Then phir fight hogi and then phir wo jaayega, khatam hoga. Toh jitni baar bhi, jitni baar bhi mauke milenge Debu ko ye karne ke, wo karna start karega.
Aur jitni baar bhi Barney ko mauke milenge Debu ke upar aane ka, wo bhi karna start karega.
Speaker 1
Sunny mujhe jaanna hai, jo fight ho rahi hai, isko hum kaun si memory mein daalte hain? Working mein?
Sunny
So working mein ek doosre mein tension aayi. Wo dono ne fight kara aur uski association kya, kya hui ki Debu upar aa gaya.
Speaker 1
Matlab isse peeche rehna hai.
Sunny
Haan, mujhe, haan maine Debu par attack kiya lekin main viphal ho gaya. Ab Debu upar aa gaya. Pehli, pehli association ye hui. Lekin wo pehli bhi association thi jo usse takraayegi. Puraani associations bhi ab compete ho raha hai do association mein.
Ye itni strong association nahi hai jitni strong usne Debu ko peeche karne ki kar li thi. Okay? Because of that, because of that drive. Ab waapas se aisa hoga then waapas se fight hogi, waapas se growling hogi. Lekin ho sakta hai ki Debu phir jaldi usko submit kara de. Jab bhi surrender, jaldi surrender kara de.
Phir ek nayi association create hogi. Over a period of time ye phir uske dimaag mein procedural mein entry ho jaayega. Ab yahan par Debu lagataar nahi kara sakta Barney ke upar kyunki wo itna kamzor dog nahi hai. Okay? Wo itna kamzor dog nahi ki jab bhi wo dikhe wo Barney ke upar attack kar de.
Lekin Barney aur Debu, Tony ke saath aisa kar sakte hain kyunki Tony kamzor dog hai. Hai na? Tony ek emotionally kamzor, toh usko jab bhi wo usko dekhenge usko pin down karenge. Getting the point? Kaise kaam, kaise kaam karta hai dog, kaise procedural mein daalte hain.
Speaker 1
Jee, jee.
Sunny
Saamne waale ke. Yes, Paresh ji.
Chandan
Sunny, ye har dog pe depend karta hoga na kitna time lag raha hai procedural se associative mein aane mein.
Sunny
Haan, wo unke emotions pe depend karta hai, inke emotions pe. So bahut se jab dog bahut zyada sensitive hote hain toh chhoti cheez hi deep impact kar deti hai. Aur bahut se dogs numb hote hain. Hai na? Toh unko, unko kai baar kahin koi maarta bhi hai toh bhi unko fark nahi padta. So ye dog to dog depend karta hai.
Lekin dog mein kya depend karta hai? Emotions, uski emotions. Toh dog zyada sensitive hai toh memory jaldi andar jaayegi.
Dog kam sensitive hai toh memory dheere andar jaayegi. Okay? So yeah, so bahut se logon ki nahi hoti, unko bahut saari cheezein yaad rehti hain aur bahut se hote hain jinko kuch bhi yaad nahi rehta. Jaise ki main. Toh numb life hai, emotions kam hai.
Aur aise log hain jinko sab kuch yaad rehta hai, unke emotions, tu ne us samay aisa bola tha aur mere ko aisa hurt ho gaya tha aur mere ko toh yaad bhi nahi aa raha tha. Kya bola tha bhai? Hai na toh different hi pages hain. Matlab different hi page par hai insaan.
So life wo emotion pe depend karta hai ki saamne waale ke andar kya emotions trigger, trigger hue aur us, usi tareeqe se dog ke andar bhi hota hai. Uske andar kya emotion trigger hua. Toh sensitive dog gehri memory create karte hain. Isliye jo trauma waale dekhoge wo zyadaatar tumhe sensitive dogs milenge.
Ek confident hai aur, aur ek numb dog. Numb dog matlab jo jiske emotions ek high spectrum pe nahi hai.
Uske andar aapko trauma ke nahi milenge. Wo takra ukra jaayega, uth ke chalta banega aur bahut si baar dekhoge bhi sahi, strays aur in sab mein. Lekin bahut se dogs rehte hain ki wo ek baar hi kuch hota hai, wo waapas ubhar nahi paate. Hai na?
Wo sensitive dog hai kyunki unke andar emotions ka flow zyaada hai toh ek association gehri ho gayi. Wo procedural mein chali gayi turant hi. So aise hi hum dogs ke issues jab aate hain aur jab hum client se poochte hain ki wo kaisa kar raha hai, kab se kar raha hai toh usse samajh mein aata hai.
Wo ekdam react karta hai ki thoda time leta hai, thoda dekhta hai. Jaise hum logon se nahi poochte ki wo dog dekhta hai uske baad react karta hai. Toh haan, pehle dekhta hai phir react karta hai. Yaani kya? Wo abhi associative memory hai. Result jaldi aa sakte hain. Kya wo ekdam dekhta hai ya ekdam react kar deta hai?
Are dog aate hi koodne lag jaata hai. Ab wo procedural mein ja chuki hai. Getting my point? Toh is tareeke se samajh mein aata hai ki dog kaun se state mein hai aur phir aap uske upar work kar sakte ho.
So basically agar hum Chai ka example lein yahan par, toh Chai ki memory procedural memory mein hai. Kyunki bachpan mein usko jo chot lagi thi wo bahut gehri thi. Okay, wo gehri thi. Uske saath trauma hua tha bach-bachpan mein. Wo ek high emotion waala trauma hua tha. Wo deep chala gaya us cheez ke andar.
So jab wo deep chala gaya toh again phir iske upar ek different method lagega. Hum procedural ko thodi hata sakte hain. Hum ek nayi memory create kar sakte hain. Toh for example Chai ke liye nayi memory create, wo bhaag ke aata hai bite karta hai. Ek aur nayi memory kya ho, kya ho sakti hai?
Wo jab khaana dete ho wo bhaag hi nahi sakta. Hai na? Wo khaana dete ho, wo bhaag hi nahi sakta. Wo wahin reh sakta hai. Usko wo wahin par hi khaa, khaa sakta hai. Lekin generally aise dog ke saath humein ye bhi dekhna hota hai ki uska jo frustration ho aur uski jo insecurity hai wo humaari taraf nahi aaye.
Hum uski nazron mein hamesha ek calm and confident person rahein jo usko reward deta hai, jo usko compassion deta hai, lekin usko guide bhi karta hai. So jab hum aise dog ko train karna start karte hain na, kuch moment ke liye working memory mein humaari ek negative image aa jaati hai, negative image aa jaati hai.
Humein us cheez ka dhyaan rakhna padta hai ki wo association bhi nahi ban jaaye. Ek baar hi aata hai toh chalta hai, do baar hi aata hai toh chalta hai, lekin agar wo consistent basis pe aa raha hai toh wo danger ho raha hai. Hai na? Danger ho raha.
Toh in, in dogs ke saath humein dekhna hota hai ki humaari kin cheezon se wo negative mein ja raha hai, negative mein ja raha. So agar aap lawn tennis ka racket lekar jaaoge toh aap bahut lambe time tak negative mein rahoge, aise dog ke saath jo sensitive hai.
Ya phir aap kuch bhi, haan kuch bhi is tareeke se, lekin agar aap leash door se use karoge toh dog usko figure out nahi kar sakta ki aap leash ko kar rahe ho.
Getting my point? Wo dog figure out nahi kar sakta ki aap leash ko control kar rahe ho. Lekin leash agar aapke haath mein ho, dog bhi us taraf aa raha hai aur paas mein hi usko dikh raha hai toh wo figure out kar sakta hai this leash is handled by this guy. Kyunki uske gardan se ja raha hai.
Lekin uske gardan se, uske peeche ja raha hai aur humaare haath mein yahan par kuch hai toh wo figure out nahi kar sakta.
Chandan
And I am relating this with ki wo zero level, one level, two level, zero pe hi use rok liya. Jaise hi wo bhaagta hai toh wo aage badh hi nahi paa raha.
Sunny
Bas usko bhaagne nahi dena hai. Usko bhaagne nahi dena, kahin par.
Chandan
Wahin rok liya.
Sunny
Wahin rok lo. So agar wo khaana hi nahi, wo chala gaya. Agar wo khaana hi, agar wo khaana hi nahi khaa raha toh usko poori tareeke se kheench lo. Ab jab aayenge tab bataunga.
Lekin agar wo khaana hi nahi khaa raha toh usko poori tareeke se kheench lo taaki wo railing ke paas aa jaaye aur jab wo railing ke paas aa jaaye toh apni ye leash kahin par baandh do taaki wo railing se hat nahi sake.
Phir uske paas jaao. Dheere se wo growl karta rahega. Jab tak wo growl karta rahega uske wahin par hi khade raho. Phir neeche baitho. Phir wo growl karta rahega. Phir bhi wahin khade raho. Bark karega, aisa karne ki koshish karega. Phir bhi wahin, wahin khade raho. Phir wo shaant hoga.
Phir aap bowl ko, bowl ko hataoge, wo phir same cheez karega. Are Reena ji aa gayi. Maine kahan se start kiya tha wo, wo bataata hoon. Toh jaise, jaise wo khaana nahi khaa raha hai. Ab yahi sawaal tha na aapka ki wo khaana nahi.
Toh hum us leash se kya karte hain na aur kheenchte hain usko railing ke paas lekar chale jaate hain aur railing ke paas lekar jaane ke baad hum usko apne darwaaze se ya phir kisi bhi cheez se secure kar dete hain ki dog idhar ki taraf nahi aa sake. Getting my point? So dog ab idhar ki taraf nahi aa raha.
Hum dog ki taraf jaate hain. Wo growl karta hai. Hum kahin aur dekh rahe hote hain. Wo growl kar raha hota hai aur hum wahin par ruk jaate hain.
Lekin hum uski taraf nahi dekhte. Hum jaise-taise dekhte rehte hain kahin par kuch. Hum usko eye contact nahi dete. Hum usko kisi bhi tareeke se attention nahi dete taaki uski association humaari taraf nahi aa jaaye. Hum usko attention- Mr.
Speaker 1
Paresh apne dogs ko, dogs ki video daalte hain toh usme wo bandha hota hai but I don't know eye contact, I don't know.
Sunny
Haan, wo kya hai uska toh focus hi alag hota hai. Unka toh focus hi Paresh ji ke upar nahi hoga. Lekin yahan Chai ka focus Reena ji ke upar hoga. Jo bhi uske paas jaayega. Toh wo us samay par Paresh ji ke case mein koi aur threat hai. Us Reena ji, Chai ke case mein Reena ji threat hai.
Toh Reena ji, Reena ji unki, uski taraf ja rahi hai. Wo growl kar raha hai. Hum upar idhar-udhar kahin dekh rahe hain. Wo shaant hua, phir hum bowl ki taraf ja rahe hain. Phir wo idhar-udhar, phir wo bark kar raha hai aur phir hum idhar-udhar dekh rahe hain. Toh ye step kar-karke hum bowl ke paas jaate hain.
Uske baad neeche baithte hain. Bowl uthaate nahi hain.
Wo phir growl kar raha hota hai. Lekin wo kyunki wahan par bandha hua hai uski intensity kam hoti jaati hai, kam hoti jaati hai, kam hoti jaati hai. And then phir aap bowl utha lete ho aur phir andar lekar jaate ho usko. Lekin aap kholte nahi ho wahan par. Wahan par kholte nahi. Wahan par hum kholte kaise hain?
Hum leash ko dheela karte hain taaki dog ki activity dekh sakein. Dog kya kar raha hai? Dog kis tareeke se behave kar raha hai? Wo shaant hai, wo uddand hua hua hai, wo kya hua hua hai. Ya toh hum koi treat lekar aa sakte hain.
Agar Chai par treat work nahi karti, wo aur aggressive ho jaata hai toh hum uska koi toy lekar aa sakte hain. Hai na, jisse ek nayi cheez. Aur toy dena nahi hota. Toy bas haath mein rakhna hota hai taaki dog usko dekhta rahe. Hai na, uska dimaag kaisa ho jaaye? Are main bandha hua tha. Are ye kya hai? Are ye toy hai.
Toy hai, toy kis kaam ka hai? Toy khelne ke kaam ka hai. Toh wo us cheez se baahar nikalna start hota hai apni working memory se ki ab ye toy aa gaya, toy aa gaya.
Lekin hum usko toy de nahi rahe. Agar hum bahut jaldi toy de dete toh wo zyaada confuse hota ki ye kya hai? Ye kya hai? Ye kya hai? Wo samajh hi nahi paata ki wo toy hai. So thoda time lete hain. Hum toy ko lekar aise ghoomte hain, phirte hain taaki uska jo dimaag pehle kahin atak gaya tha, wahan se wo nikal sake.
Speaker 1
Haan.
Sunny
Haan, ek baar wo baahar, ek baar wo baahar aata hai apni working, ab uski nayi working memory start hoti hai. Lekin uski working memory agar wahin stuck hai, aap aage kadam badhaoge ya kuch bhi usko lekar jaaoge, wo associative memory mein.
So uski working memory phir humein change karni hoti hai kyunki dog stuck ho gaya. Working memory aap leash se change kar sakte ho, aap treat se change kar sakte ho, aap apne toy se change kar sakte ho. Lekin ek baar change hone ke baad hum wait karte hain uska ki thoda wo shaanti le sake.
And then phir toy ko neeche rakhte hain. Uska interest dekhte hain ki wo kidhar dikha raha hai.
woh toy ki taraf interest dikhata hai, aise paw karke aage aane ki koshish karta hai toh hum leash ko thoda dheela chhodte hain, lekin poora nahi chhodte. Toh aise step by step karke hum uski ek nayi memory create karna start karte hain.
But this thing happens like this ki agar woh kahin par bark kar raha hai, kahin par bite kar raha hai, bhaag ke jaa raha hai aur aisi situation mil gayi ki woh ghar ke andar kar raha hai. Humein ghar ke andar darwaze ke andar chhupna pad raha hai aur phir woh darwaze pe aake bite kar raha hai.
Toh yahan par hum simple ek long leash lekar yeh poori training de sakte hain. So ek behaviorist, ek trainer pehle din hi jaakar yeh kar sakta hai. Phir uske baad same cheez poora kara. Ek se do ghante lag sakte hain is poori activity mein. So ek se do ghante mein poora, poora kara.
Phir usko khol diya and then waapas se start kiya. Lekin phir client ke haath se start kiya. Tum supervise karte ho usko.
Kyunki client ko yeh kuch time ke liye karna padega apne ghar pe bhi, matlab khud bhi. Lekin bahut easy ho-ho jaata hai. Agar aap jaise ek behaviorist, ek professional behaviorist do ghante de dete na is issue ko toh woh bahut calm down ho jaata hai dog. Phir usko pata chal jaaye, khud socho.
Nahi pata chal jaayega usko. Usko samajh mein nahi aa jaayega ki ab bhaagna nahi hai bhai. Ab ek nayi cheez aayi hai. Uska dimaag ek different tareeqe se work karne lag jaayega kyunki working memory different kar di. Phir humne associative memory different kar di. Phir us time pe procedural memory different kar di.
So this way procedural memory kaise hoga? Woh client aur aapka milkar hota hai. Sirf aap karte nahi procedural kyunki procedural mein jo, jo insaan act kar raha hai, jo insaan wahan par hai, woh bhi part hota hai. So working memory ka, associative memory ka and procedural memory ka, woh bhi part hota hai.
So for example, agar koi aur leash ko haath laga raha hai toh ho sakta hai aapka dog waise behave nahi kar raha hai jaise aapke saath karta hai. Kyun? Kyunki aap bhi part ho us equation ke. Toh isliye jab bhi ek professional jaata hai, woh 90% kaam karke aata hai, lekin aakhir ka 10% client ke saath karta hai.
Woh client ke saath karta hai. Lekin aap easy karke aate ho unka kaam. So yes, Kashish.
Speaker 1
Haan Sunny jo yeh aapne bataya ki leash se baandh dete hain, yeh kaam kaise karta hai? Matlab how does it work for a dog's mind?
Sunny
So dog ab jaise ab leash, leash hum aise kyun baandh rahe hain? Hum leash se khud kyun nahi pakad ke rakh rahe?
Speaker 1
Right.
Sunny
Hai na? Leash se hum khud kyun nahi pakad ke rakh rahe? First of, first of all leash agar aap khud pakadoge, aapke andar skill 10 level ka hona chahiye, aisi intensity waale dog ke saath.
Hai na? So agar woh 10 level ka int-- woh, woh nahi hai toh aapke, aap katoge. Woh jump karke aapko kaat lega. Woh aapke pair ko kaat lega. Hai na? Woh, woh isko leash ko snap karne lag jaayega. Hai na? Kyunki aap usko rokne ke liye kya karoge? Aap usko upar karoge toh woh aur upar chadh ke usko kaatne lag jaayega.
Toh isliye ab leash hum, humne apne haath mein nahi rakh sakte. Lekin hum leash kyun istemaal kar rahe hain? Humara istemaal karne ka kaam kya tha? Hum dog ko bhaagne se rokna chahte hain. Woh bhaag ke attack nahi kare. Toh woh kaise, woh kya, woh pehle attack karta hai ya pehle bhaagta hai? Woh pehle bhaagta hai.
Uske baad jaakar woh attack karta hai. Toh hum uske liye kya use, agar, agar hum ball bhi lene jaate hain toh woh kya karta hai? Woh growl karta hai, wahan se hatta nahi hai. Woh usko dekh ke is tareeqe se karega. Humari taraf growl karega. Toh humare paas toh control hi nahi hai.
Hum kaise usko, kaise usko handle karenge? Agar hum lawn tennis ka racket lekar jaate hain aur woh ball ke paas baith gaya. Ab kya karoge tum? Woh kya aap kaise hataoge usko? Usko kya aise touch kar kar ke hataoge? Hai na?
Woh nahi, woh touch jaise hi touch karega woh growl karega, tumhare racket ko aise munh se pakdega aur phenk dega. Phir, phir kaise hoga? Kyunki humne chheda na jaakar usko. Woh baitha hua tha toh. Toh phir nahi hat sakta. Toh yahan par kya kaam aa sakti hai?
Yahan par hum kis tool ka istemaal kar sakte hain ki humein power bhi mile aur humare paas safety bhi rahe. Dog bhaag ke bhi nahi aaye aur humare paas woh control bhi ho. Humare paas aisa kya tool hai?
Then phir humein samajh mein aata hai ki aisa ek lambi leash le sakte hain jisko hook se nikaal sakte hain aur dog ko aise pakad sakte hain taaki jab chahein hum dog ko khula chhod dein aur jab chahein hum usko jab kheechenge toh woh peeche chala jaayega.
Iski alawa aur koi tool- maan lo humne ek tight leash par dog ko baandha hua hai.
Speaker 1
For an example agar hum Paresh ki video ki taraf jaayein, woh u-usmein bhai sahab bandhe hote hain right? Toh kya woh particular moment mein dog ka brain thakta hai, wear off hota hai ya woh sirf apni safety ke liye hai? Like this is what I want to know.
Sunny
So, so dekho nahi woh jo Paresh ji ne baandha hua tha woh jab dog jump kar raha tha, woh us leash ke tight hone se snap out ho raha tha.
Speaker 1
Okay.
Sunny
So har ek, har ek jump par woh snap out ho raha tha. Woh jump karta snap out hota hai. Jump karta woh snap out. Toh khud hi khud ki ekdam perfect timing ke saath snap out ho raha tha.
Speaker 1
Right.
Sunny
Jo human, human nahi de pa rahi thi. Lekin Chai ke case mein hum yeh kyun nahi kar sakte?
Kaun batayega ki hum usko aise baandh ke kyun nahi rakh sakte? Humein aisi leash kyun chahiye ki hum ek taraf se pakad ke rakhein.
Speaker 1
Nayi association bana lega agar uske saath woh karenge toh.
Sunny
Agar ball wahin par hi pada hua hai aur woh wahin par baith gaya toh hum usko kaise hatayenge?
Speaker 1
Right, right.
Sunny
Hum usko kaise hatayenge? Hum usko freedom kaise denge ki woh bhaag ke aa sake. Humein woh freedom bhi deni hai ki woh bhaag ke aa sake. Hum phir usko rokein. So uske liye humein control bhi chahiye. Dog ko hum freedom bhi de sakein. Woh kahin par bhi ghoom sake. Lekin humein safety bhi chahiye.
So usmein is tareeqe ke strategies kaam aati hai. So these strategies are not fixed strategies. These strategies are built on these fundamentals. Matlab aisa nahi hai ki aap yeh strategies kahin par aap kitaab mein aapko yeh cheezein you will aapko case by case humein kuch strategies banani hoti hai ki kaise hoga.
Lekin woh strategies tukke mein nahi honi chahiye. Kisi aur dog ke saath aisa work kiya tha toh isliye iske saath bhi work karega. Woh failure hai. Okay?
Kyunki agar kisi aur dog ke saath work kiya tha aur woh aapka basis hai, is dog ke liye strategies banana toh yaani ki pehle waale dog ke saath aapka tukke mein clear ho gaya. Aapko uski understanding nahi thi. Aur aapne woh same cheez yahan par bhi implement kiya. Kyun?
Kyunki agar aapko understanding hoti toh aap us dog ka reference nahi lete. Aap us understanding ka reference lete. Okay? Us understanding ka reference lete. So yahan par humein dhyan dena hota hai ki agar ek dog ke saath work kar raha hai that is good thing. Woh ek data hai aapke paas. Lekin kya wahi strategy hai?
Woh depend karta hai aapke fundamentals kitne clear hai. Aur fundamental se by I mean this memory. Okay?
Ye uski like dog kaise behave karte hain, unki psychology alag ek cheez hai hi sahi hai, lekin data kaise store hota hai unke usmein. Okay? Yes Reena ji.
Speaker 5
Mujhe batao ki aap jaise main darwaza band kar leti hoon, main wahin khade rehti hoon. I look into his eyes and say ki chalo waapas jaao ya phir chupchaap khadi rehti hoon aur dekhti rehti hoon till the time he retreats, retracts. Toh mujhe batao what is the correct way?
Ab darwaza band karke mujhe wahan par ignore karke chale jaana chahiye ya wahan khade rehna chahiye. Haan.
Sunny
Nahin, chale, chale jaana chahiye. Jo jitna bhi aapne cheezein mujhe batai na ki wo khade rehne se kuch aapko milega nahin. Dog thak ke waapas ja raha hai.
Matlab wo bore hokar growl, growl, growl, growl kiya usne aur khud hi usne socha ki chalo ab aage nahin badh raha aur main kuch, na ye aage aa rahi hai, main chal deta hoon. Wo chal diya usne apni energy save karne ke liye. Kuch aisa nahin hai ki wo aapse peeche ja raha hai.
Hai na? Aapke, aapke presence se peeche nahin ja raha wo. So it's like ki haan toh wahi again yahan par ek aisi cheez kaam aayegi. See racket bhi kaam aa sakta hai, lekin again uske liye skills zyada lagegi. So safety sabse zyada this thing hai. Racket kyon bol raha hoon main aur racket mein kyon mana kar raha hoon?
See main racket ke liye haan bhi bolta hoon aur main mana bhi kar raha hoon kyonki wo skill bahut zyada matter karti hai racket ke saath. So agar koi, koi behaviorist jaayega, wo racket se is cheez ko rokna chahega toh wo dog ko circle karega racket se. Ab uske paas itni skill honi chahiye ki wo circle kar sake dog ko.
Circle karke ball se peeche bhej sake. Ye uska kaam rahega. Toh usko us intention se jaana hoga ki circle karte huye jaana hai, circle karte huye jaana hai aur ball ke saamne aana hai aur phir usko peeche bhejte huye start karna hai.
Lekin usmein dog ki skill aur human ki skill bahut zyada matter karti hai. Toh isliye generally recommend nahin kiya jaayega ki aap is tareeqe se implement karo. Kyonki beech mein koi bhi growling hua, kuch bhi barking hui aur usmein dar gaye aur dog ko ek upper hand mil gaya toh bite hai phir. Hai na?
Toh phir bite hai. Toh phir wahan se save nahin ho sakte. Wo bite karega hi karega aur phir munh se chilla niklegi hi niklegi. Kyonki dar aa jaata hai its kind of thing. Toh skill zyada chahiye uske andar. Lekin leash wale mein skill limited kam chahiye. So ghar par bhi log kar sakte hain.
Matlab jab humne, humne ye, ye tip kaise seekhi? Humne, humne bataana start kiya aur unhone jab work, workout kiya, shayad do saal pehle start kiya tha ye sab cheezein karna. So do saal like pehle ke cases hai, hai na? So unke saath jab humne start ki ye sab cheezein karna, wo kar paaye the isko aasaani se.
Humne tabhi figure out kiya tha kyonki humein kuch toh chahiye tha ki jo resource guarding ke is tareeqe ke cases aa rahe hain, unko kaise manage kiya jaaye, unko kaise bataaya jaaye ki kaise handle karna hai. Kyonki again trainers ke saath, behaviorist ke saath bhi result nahin aa raha tha.
Basically wo dog ke upar hi work kar rahe the, lekin wo in memories ke upar peeche like ek fundamental tareeqe se work nahin kar rahe the. So that's why wo, unko success nahin mil rahi thi.
So dog ke saath agar humein is tareeqe se work karna hai toh humein kuch na kuch ways dhoondhna hoga ki jisse hum uski ek nayi memory create kar sakein. Bhale wo lambi leash ho sakti hai, wo racket ho sakta hai. Toh sabke wo dekhne hote hain.
Racket kya-kya cheezein create kar raha hai aur human kya-kya cheezein create kar raha hai. Us racket, racket use karke. Toh kaun sa safe rahega? Toh leash zyada safe rahegi. Long term ke liye kya theek hai? Leash zyada safe hai long term ke liye.
Hai na ki leash agar aap, aap thodi time bhi usko workout karoge, hafte bhar bhi aapne workout kiya toh dog ke procedural memory mein jaana start ho jaayega.
Phir dog shaant hone lag jaayega us jagah se lekar. Lekin this thing lawn tennis par aapki skills bahut zyada matter karte hain. Bahut zyada matter karte hain. Isliye har jagah aap lawn tennis ka racket nahin bata paaoge. Okay? Cool hai.
So that's the thing yaar ki jaise abhi aapne dekha ki humne kuch strategy create kari lekin humne strategy kiske upar create kari? In memory ke upar create kari. Okay, so agar is memory ko samjhoge na toh phir aapko yeh dhyan dene ki zaroorat nahin hai ki yaar us dog ke saath kya kaam hua tha, idhar kya kaam hua tha.
Generally aise dog ke saath kya work karte hain. Aap phir yehi samjhoge uski yeh jo habit aa rahi hai, yeh jo harkat aa rahi hai, woh kaun si jagah par hai. Okay, kaun si jagah par hai aur wahan se humein kaise peeche jaana hai. Ya toh humein ek nayi cheez banaani hai ya phir humein iski association change karni hai.
Procedural mein aane ke baad hum nayi cheez par recommend karte hain. Hum uske saath fight karne ke liye nahin bolte. Hum ek nayi cheez par recommend karte hain. Toh hum Chai ke saath kya kar rahe hain? Hum isse fight nahin kar rahe. Isse fight kya karna hai?
Wo bhaag ke aa raha hai aur hum lawn tennis ka racket lekar ja rahe hain. Toh wo cheez bhi work karegi but lamba time lagega us cheez ke upar. Kyonki wo bhaagna kaise chhodega? Wo bhaag ke toh aayega hi aayega. Lekin agar aap ek nayi memory create karna start karoge toh wahan se aap apne hisaab se kar sakte ho.
For example, wo bhaagna hi band karein. Wo bhaagna hi nahin aaye. Wo leash se ho sakta hai. Okay? Aur doo-- aur trainers bhi bolte hain wo crate se. Again same hi matlab hai. Lekin crate mein wo same matlab hai ki nahin. Batao mujhe. Crate, crate, crate bhaagne dega kya? Crate bhaagne nahin dega.
Lekin uske saath alag negative cheezein aa gayi na. Tum darwaza kaise khologe? Tum dog ko door kaise karoge?
Toh phir, phir log kya kar, phir pata hai kaise manage karte hain. Ab unhone trainers ne yeh soch liya. Tumhein masti wali baat bataata hoon. Trainer ne soch liya aise dogs ke saath is tareeqe se pesh aana hai. Usko crate ke andar dena hai. Ab crate ke baahar nikaalne ka kya hua hai?
Toh usko leash se andar bhejte hain, peeche wala darwaza kholte hain aur leash se baahar nikaalte hain. Toh it's like ye toh upar ki baat unhone upar ka follow kiya na. Like wo leash se udhar kar rahe hain aur leash se baahar nikaal rahe hain aur hamesha crate ke andar hi de rahe hain.
Toh phir crate ke andar de kyon rahe hain? Just because wo ek rati-rataai cheez hai. Okay, ek rati-rataai strategy hai crate ke andar dene ka resource guarding ke liye. Taaki kahin aur kisi aur ke upar attack nahin kar sake. Lekin wo phir nikaaloge kaise? Us ball ko nikaaloge kaise?
Us dog ko baahar kaise nikaaloge? Matlab ball ko hataana hi padega na uske saamne se. Tab jaake hatega.
Speaker 5
Haan bowl, haan bowl chhote gate se phir badi mushkil se kisi tarah se wo bowl nikaalte hain. Phir uske baad aur 15-20 minute rukna padta hai. Jab wo shaant ho jaaye phir jaake nikaaloge. Usmein bade ifs and buts hain.
Sunny
Ab, ab, ab ye dekhiye. Ab ye jo daily basis par ho raha hai, ye kya sikha raha hai dog ko? Wo kaun si memory daal raha hai? Ye procedural memory mein jaayega hi nahin jaayega ek negative habit. Toh hum daily basis par kya kar rahe hain? Nuksaan kar rahe hain na. Just because kyon?
Kyonki humne jo cheez, jo trainers jo cheez bataate hain, ye ek oopri cheez par dependent hai bas. Ki aise dog ke saath aise karte hain. Uske peeche, peeche basic wo nahin hai, fundamentals nahin hai. So fundamental seekhna bahut zyada zaroori hota hai taaki wo understood karein.
Speaker 5
Aunty ye cheez regularly bhi toh nahin ho rahi na.
ki agar hum ye soch rahe hain ki procedural memory mein ja rahi hai, toh yeh cheez toh bahut hi jaise 20 din mein ek baar ho gayi. Aaj jis din food motivated nahi hai, tabiyat kharab hai tab hua. Toh phir bhi aapko lag raha hai ki procedural memory mein jaayegi.
Ki routine mein toh main de rahi hoon toh koi problem nahi aa rahi. Woh toh sirf once in a while ho rahi hai.
Sunny
Jaise once in a while bhi agar once in a while bhi ho rahi toh suppose for example jaise humein roz gussa nahi aata. Lekin once in a while kya hota hai? Humein koi kisi tareeqe ki baat karta hai, ek particular tareeqe ki baat karta hai aur humein gussa aa jaata hai. Mahine mein ek baar hi hota hai.
Phir doosre mahine mein ek baar hota hai. Phir teesre mahine mein ek baar hota hai. Hum kabhi bhi us cheez se baahar nikal paayenge ki us ek baat par hum chidhein na. Bhale hi ek saal ke baad bhi ho jaaye. Agar hum khud se grow nahi honge. Bhale agar hum dog ko dekhein, dog khud se grow nahi hota.
Okay, dog khud se grow nahi hota. Toh for example uske pet mein dard hai.
For example koi bhi cheez aayi hui hai jisse usne ek association create kar li hai apni is reactivity ki. Koi bhi cheez aisi aayi hui hai. Toh ek saal ke baad bhi toh, toh bhi woh waise behave karega. Hai na, waise behave. For example agar hum ek saal ke baad dog se milte hain, dog waise hi behave karte hain na.
Hai na, waise behave karte hain. Jaise humari unke saath association hoti hai, woh waise behave karne lag jaate hain. Lekin aisa kuch pakka nahi hota ki procedural memory mein ja. Agar dog lagataar behave kar raha hai na, woh procedural memory mein jaayegi hi jaayegi. Lagataar ka matlab har din nahi hota.
Lagataar ka matlab yeh bhi hota hai ki haan, jab bhi uska pet kharab hota hai, woh aise karta hai. Woh bhi lagataar hai. Yaani pet kharab ke association mein woh lagataar hai. Toh woh lagataar ho rahi hai. Toh ab woh procedural jitni baar karega, utni baar woh procedural memory mein ja rahi hai.
So jitni jaldi aap usko tackle kar sako utna achha rehta hai dog ke saath. Kehne ka matlab hai yeh, jitni jaldi tackle kar sako. So dog ko agar aise leash laga ke rakhte hain aur aise hook mein apan leash laga ke rakhte hain toh uski resource guarding par hum is tareeqe se kaam kar sakte hain.
Kyunki resource guarding khatam hone lag jaati hai. Over a period time woh bhool jaata hai. Over a period time.
Speaker 5
Bedroom ke door ka toh bahut achhe se woh ho gaya ki now ab woh wali problem nahi aati mujhe. Woh immediately apne bed par chala jaata hai and I close the door. Toh koi problem nahi aati. Morning mein jo pehle hoti thi ki jaise hi main darwaza band karti thi, uska association ab different ho gaya. Ab yeh, this is new.
Yeh wala challenge naya hai jo khaane ke liye jo ab karna hai.
Sunny
Leash apne, leash ka practice karo kisi tareeqe se ki aap leash ki practice kar sako. Hai na? Shaanti se bina food ke usko apne paas bulao aur woh leash pehanta hai toh bahut hi achhi baat hai.
Phir uske baad usko thoda tight karke alag angle se phir khaana lekar aao. Phir khaana jab lekar aao, khaana jab lekar aaoge, khaana wahaan par rakhoge toh waapas jao aur leash ko dheela karo taaki woh khaane ke paas pahunch sake. Direct uske paas lekar mat jao taaki woh khaane ke paas pahunch sake.
Aur jab woh khaana kha le ya khaana nahi khaaye toh leash ko waapas se kheanchna hai. Usko railing ke paas lekar jaani hai taaki aap safely jaake khaana utha sako. Agar aap daily basis par karoge toh uski kya association banegi? Change hoga ki nahi hoga woh is strategy se.
Lekin woh daily basis par humein jitna jitne hum kar sake utna. Isliye ek profession agar professionally is cheez ko karne jaate ho aur aapke paas is tarah ki strategy hoti hai na aapko sure shot milti hai 100% success milti hai isse. Kyunki aap memory ke upar ja rahe ho.
Hai na aap deep deep tareeqe se work kar rahe ho.
Toh dog is tareeqe se theek hoga Reena ji. Lekin humein leash ke saath humein karna padega uske saath. Matlab ek routine banana padega for 15 minutes we have to do this taaki woh cheez aakar woh like uske dimaag mein nayi association create ho sake ki khaane ka matlab distance hai.
Jab aap khaane ko rakhoge aur woh door ja raha hai, uske dimaag mein kya aayega? Khaana pada hua hai, ab main distance doonga. Woh apne aap hi woh sochne lag jaata hai. Matlab apne aap unke dimaag mein aane lag jaata hai. Khaane ka matlab distance. Khaane ka matlab distance.
Agar roz hum usko leash se is tareeqe se kheanch rahe hain phir ek time ke baad leash ki zaroorat nahi hoti. Jaise agar aap leash se structured walk lekar jaate ho toh shuruat mein sikhaana padta hai na. Ya react karta hai. Shuruat mein bataana padta hai na. Over a period time kya hota hai? Kuch bataana padta hai.
Woh aapke saath chalte rehte hain na. Jaise Paresh ji aapke saath scooty mein shuruat mein dikkat aayi hogi. Kaise karna hai, kya karna hai. Ab, ab kya hua?
Ab koi woh nahi. Kyun? Kyunki procedural memory mein aa chuka hai. Koi bhi nayi memory aap aise create kar sakte ho. Nayi memory aur strong ho jaayegi.
Speaker 8
Haan present khilaane ka system bhi maine without leash, without crate woh bhi maine apne aap hi device kiya na. Woh bhi ab procedural memory mein aa gaya. Except for this what is new ki whenever he is sick toh ye wali problem aa ja rahi hai. But.
Sunny
Us samay koi mechanism chahiye hota hai humko taaki hum dog ko door kar sakein.
Speaker 8
Haan.
Sunny
Distraction nahi kuch aisa mechanism. Jab humein pehle din hi pata chal jaaye na ki aisa kuch ho raha hai toh phir humein turant hi aisa mechanism dhoondhna padega aur woh ye wala leash ek mechanism hai aisa karne ka. Hook mein daalo, wahaan par lagao.
Agar woh kuch zyada aise growl karta hai toh kheanchne lag jao taaki woh uske paas chale jaaye and then phir aap jaakar apne kaam kar sako. Toh dog ke dimaag mein nayi memory le aata hoon aur human shaant bhi rehta hai.
Kuch bolta nahi, kuch karta nahi. Bas leash kheanchta, aise karta hai aur shaanti se apna kaam kar leta hai. Toh dog phir shaant hone lag jaata hai over a period.
Speaker 8
Aap video agar bhej sakoge toh aap bhejna.
Sunny
Main dekhta hoon. Hai na videos mujhe milta hai toh warna main back bhejta hoon aapko. Theek hai. Okay cool. So so yes Yashika ji what is the time? Arre nau baj gayi.
Reena
Sunny baat kar paayenge ya baad mein baat kar loon?
Sunny
Haan boliye na.
Reena
Main aapse ye pooch rahi thi since you were mentioning ki habit ban gayi hai toh maine aapko last time bhi bataaya tha Tin Tin ki aadat hai snap karne ki aadat jaati hai aur usme woh selective hai ki teen chaar logon ko dekh ke he snaps aur apni leash leta munh mein aur use karta hai.
Toh ab ye iski habit ban gayi hai and pehle maine koshish kari ki jis time ye nahi karta aur mere saath chalta hai toh main isko treat doon par woh work nahi kar raha. Toh iske case mein main iski habit kaise change kar sakti hoon?
Sunny
So like walk ke time, walk ke time par woh doosron ke se ki taraf bhaagne lag jaata hai. Aisa hota hai?
Reena
Usko na teen chaar log hain. Jaise ek dog hai uski Mom. Hum log hain toh unhein dekh ke he is like he will react aur bilkul snap karne ki taraf jaata ki main short leash par rakhti hoon toh woh bhaag nahi jaata, bhaag nahi paata.
But phir kya karta hai apni leash ko pakad ke munh mein gussa dikhaata hai aur ghusrata rehta hai aur main kheanchte hue lekar jaati hoon isko aage ki tu chal. Toh this is the this he does with three four people in our society. Jab bhi unhein dekhta hai unhein aise hi react karta hai unko. Ya phir kids hote toh.
Sunny
Woh shuruat kahaan se hui thi? Woh iske paas aa gaye the bahut chillaate hue shuruat mein.
Reena
Sunny woh toh main honestly nahi bata paoongi ki kya hua tha.
Kyunki pehle toh yeh chhota tha toh yeh sab aate the ki Hi Tin Tin how are you? Aur yeh bhi woh shuru se rehta tha. Haan.
Sunny
Wahin se start hua.
Reena
Chhota tha toh sabko hota tha ki isko haath lagayein. But then pehle yeh chhota tha tab ise problem nahi thi. Ab nahi hai.
Sunny
Nahi, nahi problem nahi hai.
Speaker 8
Sunny ise ki sorry but ise kaun si memory mein daalenge? Sorry meri har cheez ab mera dimaag hai na memory ke hisaab se.
Reena
Exactly mera bhi.
Speaker 8
Ab yeh wali memory kaun si?
Reena
Procedural hi hogi.
Sunny
Procedural mein aa chuka hai woh. Hai na? Toh hota.
Reena
Aa chuka hai.
Sunny
Haan toh jaise hota kya hai? Jaise Ajay sir bata rahe ki Tin Tin ko shuruat mein dikkat nahi thi. Nahi usko shuruat mein dikkat thi so lekin, lekin woh hum padh nahi paaye uske. Jaise bahut saare log aate hain, woh pyaar se pyaar karte hain. Lekin bahut saare log aate hain jo chhedne ke usse pyaar karte hain.
Hai na? Apna pyaar unke andar bahut zyada aata hai. Woh aise karne ki kaise hain? Kaise hain? Jaise insaano ke saath karte hain waise dog ke saath bhi karne lag jaate. Khaaskar waise log honge jinke upar yeh is tareeqe se behave kar raha hai. Hai na?
Zyada sensitive, zyada hyper tareeqe se isko behave karne wale honge iske saath.
Reena
Ab toh koi haath hi nahi laga sakta Sunny isko.
Sunny
Woh tabhi toh, tabhi toh haath nahi laga paaye na.
Reena
Haan exactly.
Sunny
Usne, usne kaise sabse manwaya. Yeh manwaya ki mere paas koi aur woh hi nahi hai, tareeqa hi nahi hai. Tum dekh hi nahi rahe ho meri taraf. Toh usne bite karna chaalu kar diya. Toh abhi kya hota hai. Jab bhi woh unko dekhta hai na obviously woh trigger toh ho jaata hai uska biting ka.
Toh woh saamne se aa rahe hote hain ya peeche se aa rahe hote hain jab aap isko kheench ke lekar ja rahe hote ho.
Reena
Saamne se, saamne se.
Sunny
Saamne se aa rahe.
Reena
Opposite side mein hote hain. Matlab agar woh mujhe dikh rahe hain ki woh right mein aa rahe hain toh main usko left mein rakhti hoon.
Matlab isko dekhkar hum log direction hi change kar lete hain kyunki iske aise incidents ho chuke hain pehle kaatne ke. Toh I keep distance.
Sunny
So jab bhi aisa ho na wahan se jab bhi is tareeqe se aaye toh us samay aage badhna mat. Wahin par ruk jaana.
Reena
Hmm.
Sunny
Hai na? Agar woh baar yeh baar kar. Woh aapko milne toh nahi aate.
Reena
Nahi, main milti nahi hoon.
Sunny
Haan, theek hai. Matlab lekin woh milte hain, aap isliye aap aage chale jaate ho. Lekin aage nahi jaana. Humein wahin rukna hai.
Reena
Maine try kiya Sunny sorry main beech mein bolun but maine try kiya wahan ruk ke. Toh yeh aur zyada aggressive ho jaata hai. Mere ko pounce karke kaatne ko aata hai phir.
Sunny
Ya matlab woh jab aap wahan par ruk rahe ho toh uske baad aap kya kar rahe ho? Meri aage wali bhi toh cheez hai na. Phir kya kar rahe ho?
Reena
Maine sirf pakad ke isko leash se bola sit down but the moment they crossed toh he again move back and try to snap.
Sunny
Matlab unko snap karne ki koshish kari.
Reena
Hmm.
Sunny
So like toh matlab woh aur paas aa gaye the kya aapke?
Reena
Nahi.
Sunny
Okay, so dekho dog ko kya karna hoga na is samay par humein rukna hoga aur usko express karne dena hoga. Express karne aur usko mana nahi karna hoga. Aap kya kar sakte ho yahan par suppose kar lo dog poori tareeqe se a-baawla ho raha hai aur poori tareeqe se kaatne ki koshish kar raha hai.
Achhi cheez yeh hai ki woh aapke paas nahi aa raha hai toh us samay par dog ko aap apne aage kar doge. Usko rokoge nahi. Kyunki aise dog ko aap jitna zyada rokoge woh utni hi zyada aggressive hota jaayega. Toh humein kya karna hoga usko ek tareeqe se kuch nayi cheez deni hogi. Hai na?
Kuch ek naya cheez dena hoga ki pehle toh main tujhe rokti thi, ab main tere ko rok nahi rahi. Tu thoda aage chale jaa. Toh aap usko thoda sa aage jaaoge aur aap agar aapke kahin baithne ki jagah hai, aap baith sakte ho kyunki ho sakta hai paanch minute bhi chale uska bhaunkne ka, yeh sab cheezein karne ka.
So woh poora bhaunkega, yeh sab karega, phir relax hoga aur jab shaant hoga aap usko apne paas lekar aaoge aur phir usko bologe no. Us samay nahi bologe jab tak woh yeh sab cheezein kar raha. Uske dauran kuch bhi nahi bologe. Jab woh poora cheez kar lega aur ekdum shaant hone lagega exactly jab shaant hone lagega.
Poori tareeqe se shaant nahi. Haan, haan aapko lag raha hai uski energy kam jaa rahi hai, kam jaa rahi hai, kam ho rahi hai, kam ho rahi hai. Badhte samay hum usko mana nahi karna abhi humko. Hai na?
Hum jab woh down jaa raha hai, down jaa raha hai, down jaa raha hai aur ekdum down tab usko bolenge yeh galat baat hai, aapse aisa nahi karna aur phir hum waapas se aage chale jaayenge. So every time jab aap yeh sab karte rahoge aapko dikhega ki uski association inke saath different hoti jaa rahi hai.
Inki association different hoti jaa rahi hai. So jab bhi woh log dikhein, yeh poora woh kare, isko thoda allow karna, yeh cheezein kare aur phir isko break karna and then phir isko mana karna.
So dog ekdum jab climbing pe hota hai na kayi baari tab hum usko is tareeqe se mana nahi kar paate. Hai na again usmein bhi skill lagti hai. Hai na? Usmein bhi skill lagti hai. Behaviorist aa sakte hain jo usko us samay bhi mana kar de ya us samay par chadhne hi nahi de.
Lekin agar hum woh chadhna rok nahi paa rahe toh hum yeh ek strategy implement kar sakte hain ki jab woh utar raha ho tab hum usko mana karein. Kyunki tab hum usko mana- Theek hai. Yes, Kashish.
Speaker 1
Actually main yahi question poochne wali thi ki abhi tak toh hum log yeh kehte the ki a-usi time pe snap karo aur aisa gol ghuma ke waapas le jaao toh hum ismein yeh kyun kar rahe hain ki usko lead de rahe hain because woh kya aisa nahi hoga ki woh zyada a-usko aisa lage ki haan now I have the stage, main dominate kar sakta hoon.
Toh hum yeh kyun kar rahe hain?
Sunny
Toh saath mein maine yeh bola tha ki koi behaviorist aa sakta hai woh aur usko- Right. Chadhne, chadhne bhi de sakta hai. Toh Yashika ji se jaise bahut baar baat ho chuki hai toh main ek cheez samajh chuka hoon ki Tin Tin chadh jaata hai ekdum upar. Hai na?
Woh ek, ek high level pe chala jaata hai aur hum usko us samay par rokne ki koshish karte hain. So agar hume us samay par usko rokne ki koshish karenge na uska gussa aur badhta jaayega. So dog ko- Kaise? Dog ko hum ek level tak hi rok sakte hain.
Speaker 1
Right.
Sunny
Agar woh, agar woh us level pe cross kar gaya toh jab woh utrega tab hum rok paayenge. Toh humein woh vi-woh, woh wave ko ride karna hota hai ki ab yeh, yeh, yeh is zone mein chala gaya, ab yeh waapas nahi aayega. Hai na? Ek zone mein chala gaya.
Speaker 1
Wahi Sunny animal wala phase jo aap batate ho.
Sunny
Haan, woh animal aa gaya poora uska baahar. Hai na?
Ab woh animal poora baahar aayega, poora express, expression hoga then uske baad hum usko rokna chaalu karenge. Yeh client to client bhi depend karta hai. Toh Yashika ji ke cases, case mein kya hai dog upar chadh jaata hai aur woh jaise hi rokti hai usko, woh leash ko kaatta hai aur aise, aise karne lag jaata hai.
Is tareeqe se. Yaani woh tension travel ho rahi hai uske andar. So ab hum isko, ab, ab hum isko upar chadhte hue nahi rokenge. Jab yeh neeche utar raha hoga yaani jab yeh calm down ho raha hoga tab hum yeh same cheez karenge.
Lekin ek, ek- Sir aapne kahan pe, kahan, aisi kya moment aaya jab aapne grasp kiya ki ab iski tension zyada raise ho rahi hai?
Speaker 1
Jab Yashika ji ne aapke yeh share kiya ki woh leash pakad ke phir aise karta hai.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah leash pakad ke- That is very important you know. Leash pakad ke aisa karta hai aur inke upar bounce karta hai ki kya ho raha hai? This thing is tareeqe se karne lag jaata hai woh.
hai na? so wo samajh mein aata hai, haan samajh mein aata hai ki dog ek high level pe ja chuka hai. Toh dog agar high level pe ja chuka hai aur wahan par hum usko snap out ya command dene ki koshish kar rahe hain na, hum just khud frustrate ho rahe hain. Hum aur kuch nahi kar rahe hain wahan par.
Kyunki dog receive karega hi nahi karega aur hamare andar frustration aayegi ki yaar hum bol rahe hain aur wo receive nahi kar raha. zero res-zero receive hoga uske andar zero. so wo zero jab dekhenge ki zero response de raha hai hamari baat ko toh phir human naturally frustrate hota hai us cheez ke liye.
so na toh hum dog ko control kar sakte hain aur saath mein hum dog ko aur bigaad bhi rahe hain just because us energy se. Toh iska hum kya kar sakte hain? Yaar wo cross ho chuka hai. Ab bhai tu kar le. hai na? Tu yeh pehle kar le. Tu jaise hi shaant hoga phir main tere ko bataunga ki galat tha.
Speaker 1
Toh isse dog ko yeh bhi toh samajh aayega na ki wo kuch zyada kar nahi sakta. Yahan tak karne ke baad kuch ho nahi raha hai. Aisa ho sakta hai kya?
Sunny
Nahi, matlab it's like usne uske andar jo jhallahat aayi thi bachpan ki, jo association aayi thi, wo bachpan se unko mana karna chahta tha ki mujhse door raho. hai na? Mere paas, mere paas, mere paas mat aao. Lekin Shih Tzu yaar bahut pyaare hote hain.
Matlab wo, wo bade hokar bhi bahut pyaare rehte hain toh bachpan ka toh tum bhool hi jao. Matlab they are like beyond this thing. Alag hi hote hain. Jo chhote dogs hote hain, chhoti breeds hoti hain na, unke jo wo puppies bade ho rahe hote hain, wo human ko alag hi lagte hain emotional perspective se.
so wo alag hi lagte hain Shih Tzu, adult Shih Tzu ko bhi dekhoge toh, toh bhi insaan pighal jaata hai unko aur puppy ka toh, toh baap re baap tum socho hi mat. Matlab insaan is like completely out ho jaayega usko dekhkar.
so itne insaan usko dekhkar out hue honge jiski hadd nahi.
Speaker 1
Toh Sunny agar same case mein hi a-Pino ko b-jab Pino chhoti thi, itni nahi do, do-teen saal ki hogi. Usko na Shih Tzu ne kaat liya tha. Toh jo main batai thi jiske peeche wo bhaag rahi thi Pomeranian aur Shih Tzu.
Sunny
Yeah.
Speaker 1
Uski poonchh ko kaat liya tha. Ab us Shih Tzu aur Pino ki aaj tak nahi banti hai.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 1
Toh jab se usko dekhti hai toh poora a-matlab aise paagal ho jaati hai but wo aise nahi karti hai leash ko. Toh main kya karti hoon? Main uske oopar snap karti hoon. Wo jaise hi mujhe mud ke dekhti hai, main use gol ghumati hoon aur hum lekin raasta change kar lete hain ya phir uski side se nikal jaate hain.
Jab hum side se nikalte hain, usko dekhti rehti hai, thoda karti hai lekin kuch phir wo bhaunkne pe waapas nahi aati.
Sunny
Wo Pino ki intensity utni nahi hai.
Speaker 1
But is that the right approach here?
Sunny
Yeah that is the right approach that is kyunki wo, wo oopar dheere chadh rahi hai. That is the right approach.
Speaker 1
Right, right.
Sunny
Haan lekin agar oopar tez chal raha hoga toh wahan par phir human ki skill bahut zyada matter karti hai us jagah ke oopar. Phir toh humein jo strategies banani hoti hai na wo humein aisi banani hoti hai jo human ke liye bhi theek ho aur dog ke liye bhi theek ho.
Ab kisi bhi, kisi kisi strategies mein fast wo milta hai, result milta hai. hai na? Lekin hum us fast ko hamesha consider nahi karte. Humein saamne human ko bhi dekhna hoga na aur saath mein humein dog ko bhi dekhna hoga ki human aur dog kya cheez kar sakte hain.
For example, agar main behaviorist jaunga toh main usko shuruwaat mein ho sakta hai shuruwaat mein hi rok doon aur ho sakta hai ki jo main bata raha hoon main wahi cheez karoon. Lekin obviously main usko shuruwaat mein rokne ki koshish karunga.
Main usko oopar nahi chadhne doon aur obviously meri observation zyada hai toh mere ko pehle hi pata chal sakta hai ki wo uski smell se hi high ho raha hai.
Wo abhi sight mein bhi nahi aayi hai aur wo smell se high ho gaya hai. Lekin wo humko nahi dikhega agar hum is cheez ke liye aware nahi hai na aapko pata nahi chalega ki wo smell se uske kaan change ho gaye. Smell se uski breathing change ho gayi.
Toh jab hum dog ko walk kara rahe hote hain na, yeh saare ke saare data hum leash ke through le rahe hote hain. Matlab leash mein alag cheezein feel hone lag jaati hai. Agar dog tense hota hai toh. Toh aisi cheezein hai na wo feel hone lag jaati hai ki dog ki, dog ki breathing change hui. dog ki saans change hui.
Lekin kyun change hui? Phir samajh mein aata hai ki koi aa raha tha aur humein pata nahi tha aur isne aisa behave karna hai. Toh next time kya hota hai, jaise uski breathing change hoti hai na hum turant correct kar dete hain. Toh wo aage nahi badh paata.
Speaker 1
Ab mujhe ek cheez bata sakte ho. Yeh wali, yeh wali breathing ka kya matlab hota hai jo wo, wo gusse mein, gusse mein aa raha hai.
Oh okay.
Sunny
Haan, wo gusse mein aa raha hai.
Speaker 1
Shuru, shuru karte hain aise.
Sunny
Haan toh wo just wo kahin lete bhi rahenge na aur usko koi aisa dikhega waise karna start kiya. Gusse mein aa rahe hain wo. Gusse mein aa rahe hain. Wo kehte hain door reh mujhse tu. Mere paas mere ko dikh mat tu. Tu chale ja yahan se. Nikal ja yahan se tu. Is tarah se bolne lag jaate hain unko.
Toh wo, wo ek toh signal hai yeh wala. Munh, munh phulaana inhise toh nahi aaya kahin? So, so dekho dog ke behavior mein agar kaam karna hai na so market mein agar tum jaoge toh saare ke saare na oopri level par kaam karte hue tumhe dikhai denge. Humne poore market ko dekha.
Humne poore logon se baat karke dekhi aur humne yeh bhi dekha ki unki strategies kya rehti hai aur kyun rehti hai. Kyun toh logon ko pata hi nahi hai ki aisi strategies kyun rehti hai.
Matlab like trainers ko behaviorist ko bhi nahi pata ki wo aisi strategies kyun batate hain. Bas wo ek cheez bolte hain ki aisa karoge toh theek ho jaayega. So market mein fundamentals nahi hai. Yaani dog ko samajhne ka scope bahut hai.
hai na jitna log, jitna log samajh rahe hain, jitna log business bana rahe hain, jitna log yeh cheezein kar rahe hain, wo bina understanding ke hi bahut saare log yeh sab cheezein kar rahe hain. So market mein bahut zyada zaroorat hai ki aise logon ki jo deeply dog ko understand kar sakein.
So agar aap kisi bhi dog ko theek karna chahoge ya kisi bhi dog ko diagnose karna chahoge aur uske baad strategies create karna chahoge, wahan par memory ke fundamentals aapke core rahenge. hai na dog ke andar hi kahan se create hua? dog ke andar yeh kaise create hua?
Ab humein yeh memory todni hai ya phir humein nayi cheez banani hai. Okay, wo depend karega aapki teen cheezon ke oopar working memory ke oopar, associative memory ke oopar and procedural memory ke oopar.
Okay. So next classes mein aage badhenge aur aage hum phir semantic memory, spatial memory and episodic like memory ke oopar baat karenge aur usme emotional bhi baat karenge kyunki itni badi nahi hai. Semantic memory is very limited, spatial memory samajhne ke liye bahut aasaan hai.
Episodic like memory abhi tak controversial hai. Maine ek doctor ko, ek scientist ko mail bhi bheja hai aur kyunki episodic like memory ke liye, episodic like memory ke liye humein self aware hona padta hai. Aise hi mere ko lagta hai.
Hum agar self aware nahi hai toh humein kaise pata chalega ki hamare saath aisa hua hai? Kaise pata chalega agar hum self aware nahi hai toh? So dog self aware hai ki nahi hai? Self aware ka matlab hota hai ki dog ko pata hai kya wo dog hai. Ya dog ko pata hai ki aap human ho. So maine ek scientist ko mail kiya.
Usne saaf mana kar diya ki aisa nahi hai. Lekin ek doosra scientist bol raha hai.
Vo episodic like memory ke baare mein baat kar, toh iske baare mein baat karenge. Thodi controversial hai. Abhi tak truth nahi hai. But we will talk about it and we will talk about emotions in upcoming classes. Okay, that's it guys aaj ke liye.
Speaker 1
Okay. Sir main Dodo wala case aapko likh ke bhejun toh would you guys be able to help? Because jaise kal thunderstorm tha, main video bana rahi thi aur vahi iska heart bounce ho raha tha toh maine ye kiya. Mujhe kuch kapda nahi mila jaldi se toh maine usko compress kiya.
Ek do baar toh vo bahut usko aaraam se baith gayi. But ab usko ye tha ki keep doing this, keep doing this. Toh umm if I just write down the whole thing from the beginning till here, if all of you guys who is listening, if you guys can come up with something and can help me out here it will be really great.
Sunny
Yes, next time jaise next time uske likhti na next time jab uske chest par haath hoga toh is tareeke se haath rakhna kind of thing like this.
Daant ki tarah. Okay, daant ki tarah aise andar gadaana halke se. Toh ye unko calm down karta hai is tareeke se and plus kuch bhi aap uske chest par baandh sako toh usse vo calm down ho jaate hain. Toh ye cheez bhi try karke dekhna uske saath. Okay.
Speaker 1
Haan kyunki ab vo na usko itna zyaada na andar ghar kar gaya hai har cheez ki vo usko itni si bhi noise that means matlab main aapko kabhi aaraam se bataungi. I will write it down the whole thing it will be better for you to understand there because ye bahut stretch ho jaayega.
Sunny
All guys thank you.
Speaker 1
Okay.
Sunny
Okay.
Speaker 1
Thank you.
Sunny
Yeah theek hai guys that's it aaj ke liye. Thank you so much. Bye, bye.
Speaker 1
Thank you bye.
Sunny
Okay bye.
Speaker 1
Thank you bye.
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