Pro group call
Raising two dogs, a redirect bite case study, and guarding instincts
- Sat 3 Oct 2026
- 1 hr 42 min
This OhMyDog Pro session featured two student-led presentations followed by open Q&A with Sunny Luthra. Tavisha presented on the challenges of raising two dogs together (sibling rivalry, resource guarding, overdependency) and how to apply the six rituals instead of simply separating dogs. Paresh then walked through his German Shepherd Bhai Sahab's first redirect bite, the lapse in routine that caused it, and how Vayu's figure-eight leash technique helped rebuild control and confidence. The call closed with several live member cases (reactive fighting between two dogs, a puppy's fear of babies and squeaky toys) and a discussion on guarding instinct versus prey drive, DNA testing reliability, and epigenetics.
Key points (6)
- Getting a second dog brings challenges like resource guarding, sibling rivalry, aggression, overdependency, and socialising difficulty, and these should be worked through using the six rituals rather than permanent separation.
- Commitment, energy, philosophy, and action are the pillars for raising two dogs well, treating them as separate entities even while keeping them together.
- A missed walking routine (due to life disruptions) led directly to Paresh's dog Bhai Sahab redirecting a bite onto him, showing how routine lapses cause behavioural fallout.
- The figure-eight leash gives fast, low-pain corrections that build control over reactive dogs without triggering guarding instincts the way a slip or prong collar can.
- Guarding instinct is triggered by perceived threat and is best reduced by safely familiarising the dog with whatever it guards against, not by play alone.
- DNA testing has very limited reliability for predicting behaviour; environment and epigenetics shape most of a dog's expressed temperament, not genetics alone.
- On the call
- Sunny, Tavisha, Manya, Paresh, Vayu, Ashita, Pulashka, Kashish Sharma, Praful, speaker_10, and others
Raising two dogs, a redirect bite case study, and guarding instincts
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Transcript
Hindi written in English letters. The audio is the record.
Sunny
So aaj special session hai aur is session mein jo hamare do students hain Tavisha ji aur Paresh, wo session lene wale hain, present karne wale hain ek topic ke upar aur Tavisha ji ka topic hai Double Trouble kind of thing. Haan.
Toh unka topic hai Double Trouble aur Paresh batayenge ki redirect bite ka unka experience kaisa raha. So start karte hain Tavisha ji se. Yes, stage aapka hai Tavisha ji.
Speaker 2
All the best Tavisha.
Sunny
All the best.
Tavisha
Thank you, iski zaroorat hai aaj bahut.
Sunny
Okay. Let's go.
Tavisha
Namaskar mitranno, matlab hello friends. Mera aaj ka topic hai Raising Dogs Together, jisko kaafi saare log Double Trouble bhi kehte hain.
Toh yeh topic un logon ke liye hai jinke paas do dogs hain ya jinke paas ek dog hai aur wo doosra lena chahte hain, plan kar rahe hain. Ya toh phir teesra jo dare devil type se hain, jo do dogs saath mein adopt karne ki soch rahe hain.
So normally hum jab, normally hum jab dog lene ka, apne ghar par laane ka, apni life mein laane ka sochte hain toh humein kin cheezon ka dhyaan rakhna chahiye? Pehle toh hai financial capacity.
Usmein aap uska food, vet, accessories aur uski basic jo bhi cheezein hain wo matlab afford kar payenge ki nahi, wo dhyaan mein rakhna padta hai.
Doosra hota hai aapki resource. Resource mein sirf aapka ghar ya space nahi aati but aapki time availability bhi hoti hai. Aap-- aisi kayi saari cheezein usmein aa jaati hain. Teesra hota hai aapki-- sorry, Sunny aap kuch bolna chahte the?
Sunny
Nahi.
Tavisha
Okay. Teesra hota hai aapka emotional balance, matlab aapki overall aapka mood kaisa rehta hai poore din. Chautha hota hai physical and mental health. Matlab physically bhi ek dog ko jo minimum requirement bhi agar pakad lenge toh two to three kilometers walk toh chahiye hi.
Minimum main bol rahi hoon, maximum could be anything.
So yeh basic cheezein dhyaan mein rakhni padti hain. But hum log kya sochte hain, are yaar ek akela ho raha hai aur isko bore ho raha hai, isko company chahiye.
Ya phir adoption ke liye gaye toh are dono hi puppy bache hue hain, ek akela reh jaayega, chalo dono hi le lete hain aur dono saath mein bade ho jaayenge, koi baat nahi. Aise hamare parents bhi bolte hain na ki dono bachche saath mein bade ho jaayenge waise.
Toh vichaar aur bhavnayein galat nahi hai yahan par logon ki but jo challenges wo face karte hain, matlab yeh jo challenges hain, yeh wo log samajh paayenge jinke paas do dogs hai aur wo log bhi samajh paayenge ki jo plan kar rahe hain ki kaun se challenges log dekhte hain.
Usmein resource guarding aa jaati hai. Usmein sibling rivalry bhi ho jaati hai, jismein same gender ke dogs kaafi ladte hue dikhai diye hue hain. Aggression aa jaata hai, over dependency aa jaati hai ek doosre ke upar aur u-unko socialize hone mein thodi difficulty aati hai.
Toh yeh sab challenges dog parents ko dekhe gaye hain, mile hue hain. Main aisa nahi keh rahi ki yeh sabhi ko dikhte hain. Aisa ho sakta hai ki usmein se ek challenge dikhe aur sab challenges bhi dikhein ya sabhi ko dikhe, aise bhi nahi hai. Wo 60% ya 70% logon ko yeh dikh jaate hain challenges.
Toh yeh challenges lekin aate kyu hain, pehle wo dekh lete hain hum log.
Toh pehle toh hota hai ki human unawareness, matlab insaan ko pata nahi hai. Aap aur mujhe yeh kab pata tha ki dog ki bhi psychology hoti hai ki wo bhi itna sochte hain. Humko toh aise hi laga ki companion chahiye aur phir theek hai. Matlab unke baare mein zyaada awareness nahi hai.
Aur doosri cheez hai ki human exhaustion shuru ho jaata hai. Jaise do dog ke saath, ek dog ke saath, agar mere paas jaise ek dog hai aur main doosra plan kar rahi hoon toh mujhe pata hai ki ek dog ke saath mujhe kitna time, kitni energy lag rahi hai.
Toh aap samajh sakte hain ki do ke saath jo pet parents hain unko kitni energy aur time lagta hoga.
Aur is chakkar mein matlab energy, time yeh double nahi lagta, yeh triple lag jaata hai. Toh usmein human exhaustion kaafi ho jaata hai. Teesra, jaise maine aapko bataya ki over dependency hoti hai toh uske saath wo overly ek doosre ke upar kaafi emotionally bhi dependent ho jaate hain.
Matlab agar ek dog ko vacuum cleaner se dar lag raha hai toh doosra bhi wo energy absorb kar leta hai aur usko bhi dar lagna start ho jaata hai. Aur doosra kya hota hai ki puppyhood mein jaise wo nipping aur khelte hain, ek doosre ko paws wagairah lagaate hain toh humein pata hai ki wo play time hai, wo khel rahe hain.
Lekin hum yeh bhool jaate hain ki bade hokar wo nipping, biting mein convert ho jaati hai.
Wo biting hai. Toh wahan par hum unko rokna, unko samjhana bhool jaate hain. Yeh aur doosra jaise-jaise wo bade hote hain, maturity age mein aate hain toh unko apni space wagairah ki zaroorat hoti hai. Wo sab points hum log miss kar lete hain. Overall abhi yeh jo-- yeh kaise hua, kyu hua?
Ya kya-kya challenges aaye toh ye jin logon ke paas dogs hain unko thoda wo zyaada isse relate kar paayenge toh lekin abhi ye sab aapko challenges aur ye sab aa gaye toh abhi karna kya hai aage?
Toh normally toh log trainers ke paas jaate hain kyunki dogs psychology ki abhi bhi logon ko information kam hai, awareness kam hai toh log pehle trainers ke paas approach karte hain.
Toh trainers aapko pehle toh har ek cheez separate karne ke liye bolte hain ki separate crate, separate boarding, separate food bowls aur woh bhi alag-alag jagah par rakh do. Alag-alag side mein rakh do, alag-alag rooms mein rakh do.
Yeh sab cheezein aapko batate hain but as a behaviorist ya hum log jis journey par abhi hain, us hisaab se agar main point aapko bataun toh mere hisaab se ki yeh cheezein aap initially start karo but dheere-dheere aap apne dogs par kaam karo. Jaise ki hamare dog ke rituals hain.
Dog ke jo hamare six rituals hain ki play ritual, feeding ritual, walk ritual, affection ritual, discipline ritual, socializing ritual toh us par humko work karna chahiye.
Jaise feeding ke time par aap bowl saath mein rakh do but aap unko observe karo ki achha ek dog doosre ke bowl mein toh nahi dekh raha hai ya doosre ke bowl se toh nahi kha raha hai. Correction wahin honi chahiye kyunki jahan aap miss ho gaye, wahan woh cheezein hona start ho jaati hain.
I am just giving an overview of the topic. I am not going into detail or things about it.
But my point is agar human ka commitment or mindset sahi hai toh aisa zaroori nahi hai ki aapko har cheezein alag karne ki zaroorat hai aur three pillars hote hain as per Cesar Millan, as per Sunny's learning jo maine seekhi hui hai aur jin par main abhi kaam kar rahi hoon, woh hai energy, philosophy aur action.
Energy matlab aap kya ho? Aapko kis cheez se darr lag raha hai? Theek hai. Ya main agar doosra dog lene ka plan kar rahi hoon toh mujhe kaun-kaun si dikkatein aa rahi hai? Kin-kin cheezon ka mujhe darr lag raha hai? Un cheezon par kaam karo aap.
Doosri philosophy matlab humko aise nahi dekhna hai ki dono saath mein bade ho jayenge. Humko unko as a separate entity karke treat karna hai aur as a separate entity humko unko sikhana hai. Saath mein rehkar alag-alag sikhana hai. That's aur teesra hota hai action. Aap apne dogs ko kaise dekhna chahte ho?
Unko happy-go-lucky dekhna chahte ho, calm, confidence dekhna chahte ho toh aapka woh action, aap mind mein woh cheez pehle se hi dhyan mein rakho ki aise-aise dogs chahiye.
Dikkat hoti hai, nahi hoti hai, woh pehle toh aapke upar hai kyunki aapki time, aapki commitment aur aapki actions woh zyada important hai aur as a, as a pet parent, as a pet parent hamari jo duty hoti hai ki hume unko apne dogs ko structure, boundaries aur limitations yeh sikhana hai. Yeh, yeh sikhana hota hai.
Toh kehne ka matlab aapke paas aap do ka plan kar rahe hain ya aath ka plan kar rahe hain. Yeh zaroori nahi hai ki do hamesha hi trouble rehte hain. Do, two can be a fun, two can be a double excitement aur sirf yeh cheezein aapko dhyan mein rakhni hain.
Pehli cheez jo sabse important hai woh aapka commitment aur aapka mindset. Woh sahi direction mein hona chahiye. With this, I am closing my topic. Thank you all for your patience. This is just an overview of the topic.
If I go into detail about this topic then I would be require more than 10 minutes, maybe a whole session. So this is it. Thank you. Sunny aap mute ho, aap, aap mute ho.
Sunny
Sunny aapki aawaaz nahi aa rahi. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So kaafi dhairya se samjhaya aapne, kaafi shanti se samjhaya aur kaafi yeh bhi, yeh bhi dekhne ko mila ki haan ki aap usko divide kar paa rahe ho, different, different points mein divide kar paa rahe ho.
Kabhi three pillars mein aur ek-ek karke aap sab cheezon ko samjha rahe ho aur aap aur detail mein ja sakte ho. Ek tareeke se aapne bhi apne dimaag mein ek framework bana rakhi hai.
So it was amazing aapko yeh sunne ke liye ki aap itne clearly aap bata paa rahe ho is topic ke upar aur mujhe lagta nahi abhi aapko is cheez ka do dogs ka experience hai. Abhi aapko ek hi dog ka experience hai. But still, yeah but still aapne jo baatein boli woh field ki baatein thi.
Matlab really mein yahi issues, yahi issues aate hain.
Jab, jab bhi do dogs ko lene jaate hain toh yeh issues aate hain and main bas aapko, aapko yeh bolunga ki jaise hum jab koi bhi cheez samjhane ka koshish karte hain ya koi bhi samjhane ka hum kisi ko try karte hain toh hume dekhna hota hai ki hum kam se kam time mein zyada se zyada value kaise de sakein.
So for you, you have to work on this ki aap kam se kam time mein zyada se zyada kaise value create kar sako.
Jo aapki value aapne create kari woh aap aur kam time par bhi create kar sakte ho aur woh aapki is cheez ka effectiveness aur increase ho jayega. So that's yeah effectiveness aur increase ho jayega.
For example, jo aapka content hai, jis tareeke se aap bol rahe ho, aap YouTube ke liye ek achha content ban sakta hai aapka. Jis tareeke se aap dhairya, dheere usse bolte ho. Lekin wahin same time par agar aapko yahi cheez, yahi baatein aapko Instagram ke liye bolna hoga toh aapko thoda speed up karke bolna hoga.
Speed up karke like apne points ko rakhne honge. So aaj mera maqsad yahi hai aap logon se ki aap log, aap logon ke andar bolne ka confidence aaye. Kyunki jo aapke paas knowledge aa rahi hai, woh knowledge agar sirf aap hi ki reh gayi toh phir woh toh khatam ho jayegi kuch time ke baad.
So agar aapke paas woh knowledge aa rahi hai toh aapko spread bhi karna padega.
Toh ab woh spread kaise hoga? Aapko bolna seekhna padega, sochna seekhna padega, phir bolna seekhna padega, phir likhna seekhna padega. Toh is session mein aap bolna seekh rahe ho, okay and sochna bhi seekh rahe ho. So amazing tha.
Ab baaki logon se meri request hai please Tavisha ji se questions poochiye aur questions chhote rakhiye aur answers bhi chhote rakhiye. Okay uske baad phir Parishad ji ke baare mein.
Tavisha
Achha.
Sunny
Par poochiyega.
Tavisha
Mujhe ek cheez add karni thi usmein main bhool gayi. Kyunki jaise aapne bola na ki aap abhi ismein topic mein bolna seekh rahe ho toh mera problem wahi hai ki camera ke saamne main aadhi cheez bhool bhi jaati hoon. Toh haan toh mujhe yeh bhi bolna tha ki hamare, hamare class mein hi hamare live examples hai.
Jaise Vayujeet aur Kashish ka jinke paas do dogs hai aur unke dogs humko kaafi balanced aur dependent dikhai dete hain. but unke peeche ka jo struggle hai woh matlab peeche ki unki jo mehnat hai toh woh, woh matlab kaafi kaabile tareef hai. Matlab jo humko dikhai nahi deti hai.
Toh kehne ka matlab ki unhone us par kaam kiya hai. Unka commitment aur unki energy se un logon ne us apne dogs ko us level tak laaya hai.
Sunny
Definitely.
Tavisha
Mujhe yahi.
Sunny
Do dogs toh hai yahan par and mushkil toh hota hai do dogs ko rakhna and ghar mein rakhna aur uske baad unki dikhta bhi hai. Jaise Vayujeet ka pehle aisa toh nahi bachpan se usne woh do dog rakhe the, unhone adopt kiye.
Unke andar aggression ka issues tha, territorial issues tha toh in par kaam karna easy cheez nahi hai aur unhone work kiya aur humein ab dikhta hai saamne ki simply baithe hote hain toh uske peeche work hai, kaafi work hai. Log lekin log kya karenge?
Sirf wahi do photo dekhenge aur sochenge ki like do dog aise reh sakte hain and all this thing so but uske peeche work hota hai jo aapne apne session mein explain kiya. So now baaki members please questions poochiye Tavisha ji se and unko express karne ka aur mauka dijiye.
Tavisha
Ji, ji.
Sunny
Manya first.
Manya
Yes so actually yeh question hai ki do female Indies ke baare mein. They are four years old right now and dono ke beech mein bilkul nahi banti. Matlab un dono ko like kabhi saath mein rakh nahi sakte except ki ghar par koi na ho.
Pet parents jab ghar par na ho tab unhe woh log tie karke rakhte hain alag-alag sofa par.
Poora din jo bhi hota hai unka tab woh log nahi jhagadte but as soon as ki pet parents aa gaye toh un logon ka jhagda start ho jaata hai aur phir unke presence mein toh use saath mein nahi rakh sakte, khaana bhi nahi de sakte, simply baith bhi nahi sakte woh log ek doosre ke saamne.
So phir un logon ko separate rakhna hoga. Uski wajah se pet parents ko bhi separate rehna padta hai kyunki do hi log hain ghar mein. So matlab yeh kaise hum tackle kar sakte hain yeh cheez? If you want ki kuch main pehle ka bataun ki kya hua, kaise yeh sab hua.
Tavisha
Nahi, nahi aap, aap jo pooch rahe hain, woh question sahi hai. Toh maine jo apne topic mein baat ki ki sibling rivalry hoti hai.
So I am not sure ki woh dono sibling hain ya nahi. Lekin maine yeh bhi kaha ki sibling rivalry mostly same gender ki hoti hai. So this is the another level of topic jo hum detail mein bhi baat kar sakte hain.
But woh kaise karna hai yeh matlab jaise humne kaha ki unko alag rehkar bhi saath mein hum kaam kar sakte hain, right? Agar humko us detail mein jaana hai toh hum us topic par aage bhi baat kar sakte hain ki you know because woh ek alag-alag bahut saara separate topic ho jaata hai aur kaafi detail mein ho jaata hai.
Toh usko agar saath mein jaise karna hai toh aap kya karenge? Pehle agar main overview just de doon bina kuch liye liye toh pehle toh unko aap walk karwa rahe ho ya basic things jo hum dog rituals ki baat karte hain toh dheere-dheere aapko un par kaam karna padega.
Matlab ek saath aap dono ko saath mein lekar aayenge toh fight hogi nahi. Toh slowly kaise kaam karna hai ki slowly kaise kaam karna hai ki jaise unko woh sirf parents aane ke baad ladte hain toh yeh sab matlab detail investigation ho jaayega apna right? Lekin mera jo topic hai woh overview hai.
Matlab main aapko just overview de, de rahi hoon.
Manya
Correct.
Tavisha
Understood. Toh agar woh usse related hai toh I can nahi toh hum log us par baat kar sakte hain ki.
Manya
Inka case thoda detail mein hai. Thoda back history mein bhi jaana hai.
Tavisha
Right, right. Kyunki yeh jo topic hai na matlab aap agar dekhoge ek-ek cheez jo hum log baat kar rahe hain jaise dog rituals ki bhi baat karenge.
Agar hum detail mein jaayenge toh humein pata chalega ki ismein se kuch cheezein hain ya phir wahan par pet parents ki commitment nahi hai. Theek hai. Kyunki commitment toh aapko chahiye na. Aapko time toh dena hai. Aap bologe mere paas time hi nahi. Lekin ab mere paas do dogs aa gaye.
Humein sambhaalna hai toh main cheez toh wahin se shuru ho jaati hai.
Sunny
So, so jaise for example jaise hum poochte, jaise hum pooch sakte hain ki suppose koi yeh kahin ja rahe hain aur koi dogs ke baare mein kuch jaanna chahta hai aur unhone unse seedha yeh poocha ki aap mujhe, mujhe ek naya dog, mujhe mere paas ek already ek dog hai aur mujhe doosra dog lena hai toh aap teen-chaar points bata sakte ho ki mujhe kya dhyaan mein rakhne.
So kind of thing Tavisha ji this is a question ki mere paas ek dog hai. Mere ko doosre dog lena hai. Aap mujhe teen-chaar points bata sakte ho ki mujhe kya dhyaan mein rakhna chahiye.
Paresh
Haan matlab main aapko yeh bata sakti hoon ki aap pehle toh doosra dog kyun lene ka plan kar rahe hain, pehle yeh pooch sakte hain aur aapke first dog ki age kya hai?
Kyunki according to me matlab main aapko just bata rahi hoon ki according to me jab aap ek ke saath settle ho jaate hain after three to four years you can plan for another one because kya ho jaata hai tab tak woh thoda bada ho jaata hai.
Aapko idea mil jaata hai ki inko time aur energy kitni lagegi ya aapka overall kharcha kitna aa raha hai aur aap agar uska time jaise double lagega toh hum utna woh de paayenge ki nahi. Toh basic cheezein aapko kya dekhni hai? Pehle toh financial.
Achha pehle dog mein vet ka koi kharcha nahi hai lekin aap maan lo aapko doosre dog mein vet ka kharcha aayega kuch bhi xyz toh aapko thoda sa monthly itna toh side mein karna padega.
so woh aur doosri space aapke paas utna time hai dono ko aap thoda aapko initially pehle ke months mein thoda dekhna padega. it's not necessary ki ek dog bada ho gaya toh abhi kuch nahi karega woh chhote waale ko. Kyunki kaafi-kaafi time ek dog assertive ho jaata hai aur doosra dog phir insecure ho jaata hai.
Toh aapko woh pehle thoda time bhi dena hai dono ko dekhne ke liye ki khel rahe hain saath mein ya aapko unko sikhaana hai ki saath mein kaise khelna hai. Toh yeh waali cheezein main unko thoda samjhaungi.
Sunny
OK, so kisi aur ke kuch sawaal hain Tavisha ji se? Nahi. OK. so that's it. Aaj matlab like ek session khatam hua humara aur ek cheez bolna chahunga ismein ki for example jaise agar humse koi sawaal poochta hai, baaki sab logon ke liye bhi hai.
for example kisi ne humse koi sawal poocha ki aap humein char se point woh do toh humein jab bhi humein unko-unko jawab dena hai toh hum one, two, three, four karke is tareeke se unko jawab denge ki ek point yeh raha, do point yeh raha, teen point yeh raha, char point yeh raha, paanchwa point is-is tareeke se raha.
so insaan ka mind woh listicles karke zyada samajhta hai. aapne kayi baar content bhi dekha hoga Instagram ke upar woh listicles aate hain, unko listicles content bolte hain.
jo listicle content kya hota hai ki hamara mind already usko like agar bullet points mein de diya ya phir humne number wale usmein de diya toh humein zyada samajh mein aata hai. jaise hi hamari baat kisi ko zyada samajh mein aayegi hamare-hamare unke-unke dimaag mein hamari ek authority figure banne lag jayegi.
OK, so authority figure banane ke liye yeh jo chhoti-chhoti cheezein hoti hain, hai na? so hum clearly answer kaise de sakein? listicles hum jab implement karte hain toh usse kya hota hai ki hum bhi one by one us flow mein jaate hain.
hum miss nahi karte ki hum kya batane wale hain aur samne wala bhi samajh sakta hai us tareeke se.
so koshish kya karo jab bhi kisi ko cheez samjha rahe ho bhale hi tum one, two, three nahi bolo lekin dimaag mein tumhare woh points bane hue ho, ek framework bani hui ho aur us framework mein tum andar jaate jao jitna samne wale.
so ek framework ko tum 30 seconds bhi samjha sakte ho, teen ghante mein bhi samjha sakte ho, teen din bhi laga sakte ho ek framework ko samjhane ke liye. OK, for example agar main rituals of dog samjhane lagoon main tumhe 30-30 seconds mein bata sakta hoon rituals of dog.
lekin wahi rituals of dogs ko hum examples dekar, examples dekar, examples dekar teen ghanta bhi laga sakte hain aur wahi rituals of dogs ko hum tumhe hands on experience dene ke liye tumhe teen din mein bhi sikha sakte hain. getting my point?
aur tumhe aur lamba lekar teen mahine mein bhi kar sakte hain same rituals of dogs ko. so framework mein yeh power hoti hai.
you can convert that framework tum different-different jo bhi cheezein suppose kar lo separation anxiety ke baare mein koi tumse kuch pooch raha hai toh separation anxiety ke baare mein tumhare dimaag mein framework honi chahiye.
us framework ko depending on the time woh tum tumhara woh rehta hai ki depending on the time woh kitna tumhare paas available hai time kitna space available hai usmein tum woh framework bata sakte ho aur wahi same work framework ko tum increase kar sakte ho matlab duration uski aur deeply samjha sakte ho.
lekin frameworks teaching ki frameworks create karna important hota hai.
OK, aur woh tum mere teaching ke style mein bhi dekhoge ki hum teaching ki frameworks hoti hai three this, six this and falana this and dikhana this taaki main loose nahi karoon apna track ki hum kahan par ja rahe hain samjhane ke liye aur hum usi cheez ko clearly multiple tareeke se samjha sakte hain.
OK, multiple tareeke samjha sakte hain 30 seconds mein, minutes mein, hours mein, days mein same cheez. OK, same cheez.
so that I learned this from yeh jo top Tony Robbins unhone bataya tha like I don't know Tony Robbins ke baare mein suna hai nahi lekin Tony Robbins like woh apni teaching bhi frameworks ke through aur usne bataya tha ek hi same framework ko hum teen minute mein bata sakte hain, 30 seconds mein bata sakte hain aur teen din mein bata sakte hain.
baaki main uske baare mein aur bataunga how to do this. but yeah that is good thing. so second round par chalte hain aur woh hai Mr. Paresh jo batane wale hain redirect bite ke baare mein aur unke paas aur bhi kuch baatein hain karne ke liye.
so I think aaj inhain ke liye hai session Tavisha ji ke liye and Paresh ji ke liye I think isi mein time khatam ho jayega hamara. toh chaalu karte hain Paresh ji aap start ho jaiye. the stage is yours.
Paresh
Can anyone confirm my video and audio is fine?
Sunny
Yes, absolutely.
Paresh
OK, done. so sharing my screen. thank you everyone and this will be just like a not a session, it's just a conversation which we are going to have. main apna experience batane wala hoon toh it will be like just a story.
OK, sharing my screen. is my screen visible guys?
Sunny
Yes.
Paresh
OK. my first redirect bite 18 September 2026 by Paresh. source inspired by Sunny's wisdom.
Sunny
OK.
Paresh
This was day one. day two. And here now we are going to analyze what exactly happened. Ok aur video mein idhar right hand side par we have this.
Sunny
ye side wala neeche ho sakta hai kya? This bar.
Paresh
Sorry.
Sunny
ye meet ka bar aa raha hai saamne. matlab video poora clearly. isko neeche ho sakta hai kya? ya kahin aur chala jaaye yaar. ye cross ho jaaye. Ok got it.
Paresh
Fine.
Sunny
Fine.
Paresh
Ok toh guys not as a behaviorist as a pet parent or behaviorist. main dono ke inputs bataunga. Ok yahan par hum dekh rahe hain owner ke ha-- not owner pet parent ke haath mein phone hai, full leash hai aur dog ekdam attentive hai.
pehla push aur jaise hi pehla push aaya pet parent ko samajh mein aa gaya phone andar rakho fatafat. Phone andar rakha. Correction ke saath peeche push kiya and apne safe place mein chale gaye. Dog ne rest kiya. Yeh raha woh doosra dog idhar ok and abhi. Ab hum dekhenge yahan par pet parent ka overconfidence.
Parent ne apna focus hata liya aur yeh dekh liya. And in this phase the redirect bite happened. And abhi bhi pet parent ko samajh nahi aa raha hai.
woh challenge kar raha hai. kyunki saamne agar hum block karke rakhte toh shayad yeh reactivity nahi hoti. Here the dog is confused. Fine. Speeding it up. Pet parent ne yeh achha kiya ki kuch react nahi kiya. dobara walk kari and phir waapas aaye.
aur abhi pet parent ko hosh aaya ki hua kya hai toh analyze kar raha hai ki kitna deep hai. theek hai. I am moving ahead now. My first redirect bite complete story 8 September.
Jaisa you know main exercise mein running karwata hoon Bhai Sahab and Pari ki. Toh 8th of September ko tyre bust ho gaya. 18th ko redirect bite hui aur 19th ko tyre aa gaya. Tyre bust hua tha 8th ko lekin bite hone ke baad tyre aaya aur phir ek hi din baad aa gaya. Ok 20th September Ganesh Visarjan tha.
Iska bhi ek point hai. I will explain you that. 22nd September I asked for help. 24th we started and 25th onwards we actually started working on it. Ok so from 8th to 18th September 10 days no running, no walk, only play and food.
So guys 10th September the pooja planning started and just to give you the background yahan par jo pet parent hai woh events manage karta hai poori society poore layout ke aur isiliye woh is duration mein bahut zyada busy tha and top of it tyre bust ho gaya and uske baad aapne dekha redirect bite hui.
But as a dog behaviorist ab main yeh bolna chahta hoon ki dog ko yeh sab nahi pata. Ganesh Ji kaun hai? Visarjan kya hai? Planning kya hai? Dog ek routine mein jeete hain aur yeh ek miss tha. Moving next 20th September to 22nd September tyre aa gaya tha 19th ko.
Started five kilometer morning run and five kilometer evening run without fail. And then I realized I am just simply trying to escape from the situation. It wasn't solution. It was just a way of avoiding the real issue. I said no yeh toh aise nahi chalega. And then I started asking for help.
Abhi us par baad mein aayenge. This is my logic of the bite marks and what happened exactly.
I am gonna explain it. Yeh aage ke four teeth aap jo dekh rahe ho yeh four nishaan hai aur yeh peeche wala yeh neeche wala daant hai. Toh jaise maine yeh knowledge se samjha Sunny se hi.
Jaise hi aise cases mein redirect hota hai aur jaise dog ko realize hota hai ki what I am doing woh present mein aa jaata hai right aise hilta hai aur woh hilne ki wajah se see this mark uska jab usne apna face hilaya toh woh scratch aaya aur usko feel kab hua yahan par neeche wala deep tha.
Yahan par jab usne touch hua toh use realize hua oh fuck what happened aur phir usi ki wajah se yeh mark hai.
Moving ahead 24th September I made a commitment to Vayu. I decided to approach him as a client would approach a dog behaviorist trusting the process following every instruction with consistency. Next Wayu asked... So guys, this is our chat.
Wayu asked me couple of questions to understand me and I'll like to invite Wayu. Wayu can explain us kya-kya questions poochhe the Wayu ne. Aur meanwhile aap yeh dekhte raho, yeh chal raha hai.
Vayu
Yes Paresh. So basically I asked everything about first mere dog ki information li.
Maine area poochha aapko ki aapka area kaisa hai, neeche kya hai, road kitna busy hai, kya distance hai aur dono personalities understand ki pehle Pari aur Bhai Sahab ki. Toh aapne bola ki Pari ke end par koi issues nahi hai aur the behavior is not transferred from one dog to another.
Toh we had to work individually on Bhai Sahab. Toh maine suggest kiya ki hum log usko walk jo bhi hai us par individually lekar jaayenge. Maine got to know ki aap unko runs de rahe ho regular. Lekin aapke perspective se aisa tha ki run de raha hoon, exercise ho rahi hai so I think it is helping.
Lekin uske aur depth mein jaakar maine jab poochha toh I got to know ki run hum bike ko baandh ke jab de rahe hain lekin Bhai Sahab ko phir bhi saamne agar koi dog dikh raha hai toh woh aapke bike ko bandha hua hai aur run bhi kar raha hai, uske saath woh charge bhi ho raha hai aur us dog ke upar bhi jaa raha hai.
But it's just that ki heavy bike ko bandha hua hai toh aap, uske, woh aapke control mein reh raha hai.
So I thought ki that is a riskier thing because maine aise bhi dekha hai ki dog ko owner jab excite karke bhagate hain, dog bhaagna, woh kiske upar hi direct ho jaata hai like for attacking or lunge karta hai.
So from my perspective this running should be more of an exercise oriented thing rather than- Wayu sorry to interrupt you.
Paresh
Mere ko thoda time crunch hai and yeh video tak hi time tha. Abhi jaise Sunny ne explain kiya you should have given questions and pointers. Moving next Wayu se hum baad mein baat karenge.
Vayu
Sure, sure.
Paresh
So guys we hit new roads, unfamiliar areas and see this video. In roads par Bhai Sahab pehli baar aaye hain. Meri running hamesha wahin hoti thi jahan roz ho rahi hai.
Mujhe pata hi nahi tha ki naye-naye challenges kaise dene hain apne dog ko. Kaise uska movement wala part, sniffing wala part jo animals ki humne decide kiya tha woh fulfill hoga. I started working on it. Very good control here.
Vayu
Paresh just one point.
Paresh
Right. Yeah.
Vayu
Haan, toh matlab mera perspective aisa tha ki maine jab poochha toh do saal se woh usi area mein ghoom raha hai. Toh mera perspective aisa tha ki dog ki personality change hoti hai when we let him experience on a broader perspective.
Theek hai. Toh maine aapko first of all toh as of now apna normal leash par control utna hai nahi toh maine aapko eight bana kar leash suggest kiya. For me it's just a tool for time being. We are not going to be permanent on it. Later once he gets calm, we will switch to normal thing. Okay.
Later on we may switch to martingle as well. So this is just a tool for the initiate. Toh maine aapko bola- Done. Easiest area mein jaao. Toh jaise aap bata rahe ho for the first time in his life- Right. He experienced all this thing.
Paresh
See on that video aur yeh halka sa correction. Moving next. Yeah. So eight loop par zyada control dikha aapko iske upar bahut?
Vayu
Haan Sunny.
Paresh
Dogs ke, dog ke.
Vayu
Matlab main, mera kya hua Sunny- He is aroused.
Sunny main jab eight use karne laga toh mujhe effort bahut kam lagane pad rahe the. Right?
Paresh
Yeah.
Vayu
Ki jitna main effort laga raha tha pehle use correction dene mein ya usko wahan se bahar nikaalne mein it was reduced to 30% let's say 30 bhi nahi. Matlab it was just a very light kyunki ab uska snout hi ghoom raha hai.
Paresh
Yeah, yeah. Got you.
Vayu
I will come to that. Wahan par teen street dogs aaye.
Paresh
Bahut jaldi sun liya usne.
Vayu
And hum aage badh gaye. And this create, this has developed so much of confidence in my myself I cannot tell you.
And guys with this I will be starting my second part of the presentation. If you guys have any question on the first part, please shoot. Agar wo bahut zyada lambe hain toh hum baad mein karenge. Agar kuch pointers wale questions hain toh all, I am all yours.
Paresh
I think continue. You continue we will ask.
Vayu
Okay done. So guys this is my second part of the presentation.
Main bhai sahab ko running karwa raha tha ek time par and someone reached out to me and asked, "Is he a German Shepherd?" Maine kaha, "Haan bhai, yeh German Shepherd hi hai aur yeh bhai sahab hain hamare." Kyunki tab tak bite, bite wala incident ho chuka ho, hua tha. Toh I was like okay fine yeah German Shepherd.
He smiled and said, "I am planning to get a German Shepherd as well." Achha, okay fine. Phir usne bola ki mujhe suggest karo breed kyunki main confused hoon. Main German Shepherd loon ya Cane Corso loon? Maine kaha oh my God!
Aur jab maine use dekha toh uske lifestyle se pata chal raha tha, not uske lifestyle se, usko dekh ke pata chal raha tha ki uska active lifestyle nahi hai. We exchanged the phone numbers and I started thinking about it. The first thing what I thought meri community ka naam kya hoga?
I said bhai sahab and the P pause because I have a family jahan par Pari hai, Prachi hai my wife, Prisha hai my daughter, Paresh hai and bhai sahab hai. Maine unko ek yeh message bheja.
Paresh
For a welcome onboarding. Phir mujhe realize hua ki nahi yaar message mein maza nahi aa raha. Let's create a poster. Maine poster banaya. Aur phir ye maine pehle research kiya aur apne aap questions write down karne laga ki unko chahiye kyun dog?
Companion ke liye chahiye, sport ke liye chahiye, protection ke liye chahiye and what not. Aapke paas screen mein saare questions hain. I started working on it. And then the moment ek idea mere paas aaya. Again, I will stress on this, it's a idea. Mujhe kya karna padega ek successful dog behaviorist banne ke liye?
Marketing karna padega, designing karna padega, client acquisition karna padega, technology dekhna padega, customer support dekhna padega.
Hell lot of work. And problem in this area. Maine randomly koi toh reel dekhi. I liked her. I am not sure wo kaun hai. Par I thought main inse connect karta hoon. Kyunki humein ye bhi input mila tha Sunny se ki we have to cross check ki kya-kya packages hote hain, kitne paise le rahe hain or what not.
Toh aap dekho you can't join this group because it's full. Main Instagram par unhein message bhi nahi kar pa raha hoon and main unhein reach out nahi kar paaya. Maine Facebook par ek ad dekha Sanjana madam ka and aap replies dekhiye unke. Hi, good morning. Yes, need your help. Let me connect with it's good time.
Koi message ka reply nahi. And I said I need help regarding dog training.
Dog training yes, saw your post. No, not interested. Right? Okay, fine. Now guys, we have two possible ways of working on this as a team or a individual path. Individual path ka maine aapko problem bataya ki hamare paas kitni saari cheezein hongi jo humein manage karni hongi akele.
Agar hum log sab ek team, ek vision ki tarah kaam karte hain toh kya-kya karna hoga humein? Hamare ko ye saare pointers par kaam karna hoga. Branding, content creation, documentation, client, client relations, technology and what not. And what we will be doing?
We will be creating this different-different buckets according to your interest, according to your strength.
You will be choosing one, one, one bucket and there will be a option of switching that. Once you feel like okay fine, I am confident in this. I have learned my part. Now someone else will come. We will guide them and they will go to some another bucket.
My vision what I am thinking now is the next generation of dog behaviorist from Oh My Dog Academy serving dog parents across Bangalore, Pune, Gurgaon, Chennai, Mumbai, Hyderabad and beyond. We will be not disclosing ourselves one by one on Insta or social media. Hum log saare ek group ki tarah jaayenge.
Sab log aapas mein ek doosre ko tag karenge and uske baad hum ek team ki tarah kaam karenge.
Agar kisi ke paas koi approach kar raha hai Pune se, Paresh ko bola ki Paresh main Pune mein hoon. I have my brother in Pune, right? Tavisha ji hain. Agar koi Delhi ke liye bolta hai, Parth hai hamare paas and we all can work as a team. Next.
Hum jitne bhi content banayenge, ek team hogi content banayegi aur wo dedicatedly content banayegi. The moment hum log ye bolenge ki hum 10 dog behaviorist market mein hain, hamara content aana start ho jaayega because ek doosri team uska kaam hi yahi hai content banana. Toh hum kabhi bhi stop nahi honge.
Ek team sirf customer acquisition par dhyaan degi. Ek team welcome message structures par dhyaan degi ki agar koi mere paas aa raha hai, usko kya breed leni hai toh mere paas set of questions hai jo hum sab as a team discuss karenge and we will ask it, ask.
Each member can contribute in their own area interest. These are the things. So ye sirf mera ek thought hai. Agar hum saare log is par brainstorm karenge then we can do this bucketing and what not. So question for everyone. Option one, build and manage your own independent practice.
Work toget-- option two, work together as a team and take it to the next level. That's all I could manage within the given timeframe guys. Thank you so much for hearing me out.
Sunny
So good work Paresh and sabse zyada good work with Bhai Sahab tha. Kyunki Bhai Sahab ke saath aap pehli baar ek traffic waale usme gaye aur traffic waale mein jab bhi aap jaate ho, ek reactive dog hai aapke paas toh wahan par kaafi confidence ki zaroorat hoti hai.
Aur humne bhi dekha wo car ke kitni paas se nikla aur kitna closely aapke saath chal raha tha aur completely relaxed tha. Lekin wahin par jab hum usko dekhte hain ki ek safe jagah par hai jab, jahan par traffic nahi hai, jab safe jagah, toh wo kaafi chaud mein chal raha tha.
Lekin uske baad bhi jab aapne eight loop istemaal kiya toh kaafi achhi tareeqe se aapko uske results mile. Aur eight loop mein sabse buri baat ye hoti hai ki insaan ki skill slip leash se zyada matter karne lag jaati hai wahan par.
Paresh
Right.
Sunny
Toh kyunki wahan par aap bilkul bhi zyada force nahi laga sakte ho aur wo unko bahut chot pahuncha sakta hai us jagah par.
So yahan par aapki skill aur aapka confidence dekhne ko bhi mil raha tha ki aap bahut shaanti se aur bahut hi halka sa usko, aapko idea tha, aapko awareness thi ki yahan par mujhe bahut dheeme se karna hai, bahut shaanti se karna hai ki taaki usko impact na ho, zyada impact nahi ho aur wo jaldi sun.
So aapka jo correction tha wo dog ke according tha, not your mood according. Aapke, aapke personal ke according nahi tha. Dog kis tareeqe se react kar raha hai aur usi tareeqe se main uske saath behave karunga. Aur ek cheez aur achhi dekhne ko mili ki aapne khud ko analyze kiya aur wo mushkil hota hai.
Kyunki bahut se log ye try bhi karenge khud ko analyze karne. Lekin jab wo khud ko analyze karne lagte hain toh wo ek aage ek point laga lete hain ki but maine aisa isliye kiya kyunki yeh this. So understood maine kya bola abhi?
Ki jab bhi wo apne aap ko analyze karte hain, wo aakhir mein ek cheez laga dete hain ki maine yeh isliye kiya kyunki. Jaise hi hum yeh lagate hain ki maine yeh isliye kiya kyunki, wahan par hamari learning khatam ho jaati hai. Hai na? Because we give power to something else other than ourselves.
Toh lekin wahan aapke, aapke dekhne ko mila ki aapne yeh nahi kiya aur aapne completely objectively without personal hokar us poori cheez ko dekha aur apne se juda hokar dekha.
It's like aap separation create kar sako. So ek, yeh bhi ek skill hoti hai ek dog behaviorist ki ki wo apne se separation create kar sakta hai aur apni poori activity ko waapas se analyze kar sakta hai. Hum aise hi seekhte hain field mein aakar. So that was good.
Paresh
Sunny yahan par I will, I will add something. Jab redirect bite hua na, mere dimaag mein bahut kuch chal raha tha kyunki you know life mein kitna kaam hai, office hai aur main yeh event manage kar raha tha. I was the only person jo sab kuch kar raha tha.
Jaise hi bite hua toh mere mann mein thought aaya, "Oh shit, puncture hua" aur main present mein aa gaya. Right? Main dekh paa raha hoon ki Paresh is moment se pehle kya tha aur abhi kya hai. Main bilkul change ho gaya Sunny. Ek-ek mera baal mein poora ek line dikhne lagi mere ko.
Oh yes, aisa. I mean it was damn magic.
Sunny
Haan, wo bolte hain na ki dimaag pagla jaata hai toh bijli ka jhatka dena padta hai. So wo bijli ka jhatka tha and ye so this is aapke saath nahi ho raha na, daily basis par lagta hai. Jaise for example aap planning kar rahe ho, ye sab kar rahe hote ho. Yaani aap overwhelmed ho gaye. Itni saari cheezein aa gayi.
So bahut se log lagaataar overwhelmed hi hote hain. Toh unko pata hi nahi hota ki duniya mein day to day mein kya chal raha hota hai. So lekin dog ne aapko wo jaga diya. So do parts hain aapke presentation ke. Second part ke oopar hum aayenge.
Lekin first part par abhi kiske kuch sawaal hain wo please Paresh ji se poochiye. Yes, Tavisha ji.
Speaker 7
Again, mera sawaal kam suggestion zyada hai.
Sunny
Haan.
Paresh
Tavisha ji suggestions baad mein please, abhi sirf question.
Speaker 7
Nahi, nahi. Kyunki yeh thoda important hai, Paresh. Please understand.
Paresh
Nahi, nahi. Toh Sunny ne toh option hi question poochne ke liye bola hai. Toh pehle aur kisi ka koi question hai toh wo le lete hain.
Speaker 7
Haan, haan, wo le lein.
Sunny
Aur koi sawaal poochna chahta hai?
Speaker 7
Main poochna chahti hoon ek cheez. Aapne jo tire aur puncture waala bola mujhe wo samajh nahi aaya. Sorry.
Paresh
Toh Pulshoka, if I am pronouncing your name correct.
Speaker 7
No, that no, no, you are not pronouncing correctly. Pulashka.
Sunny
Pulashka.
Paresh
Pulashka. Pulashka. Toh main dono apne dogs ko Pari and Bhai Sahab ko running karwaata hoon scooty par.
Aur five, three kilometers, four kilometers aur yahi hamara routine hai. Morning and evening. Lekin jab tire phat gaya toh mujhe tire procure karna tha aur wo scooty chal nahi paa rahi thi kyunki tire burst ho gaya tha, phat gaya. Toh unki running nahi ho rahi thi for 10 days.
Sunny
Okay, so yahan se related ek aur cheez bolunga. Jab bhi hume present karna hota hai toh hume is tareeqe se present karna hota hai ki hum pehli baar logon se baat kar rahe hain.
So, for the, for example hume thoda pretext dena hota hai ki mere paas do dogs hain, dono German Shepherds hain aur German Shepherds ko kaafi energy expenditure ki zaroorat padti hai.
Agar unko itna expenditure nahi milta hai ya phir hum unke mental stimulation itna provide nahi karte toh unke andar behavioral issues aa jaate hain aur wahi mere saath hua.
So itni taareekh ko yeh phata, itni taareekh ko yeh phata and then toh we give that context to them so that wo can understand, wo visualize kar paate hain cheezein.
Okay? Aur yeh sirf unke liye nahi hai ki jo aapko pehli baar sun rahe hain. Yeh unke liye bhi jo aapko already sun, sun chuke hain. So hum kaafi baar assume kar lete hain ki saamne waale ko yaad hai hamare baare mein.
Okay, but aisa, haan, but most of the time aisa hoga hi nahi because we all are very full of ourselves. Like hamare mind mein hamesha hamari life ki ye sab cheezein chalti rehti hain chalte.
So jab bhi hum kisi ko samjhaane ki koshish karein, kabhi karein, koshish karenge ki hum usko context pehle create karein and then phir uske baad hum usko explain karein.
Paresh
Sure.
Sunny
Yeah, who else? Kaun sa naya, naye, koi aur poochega? Tavisha ji ka suggestion hai, us par aayenge hum. Lekin kisi aur ka kuch question hai abhi? Nahi. Okay, nahi. So mera sawaal hai, Paresh ji, the first time aapne kaise, this was the first time jab aapne usko eight loop lagaya.
So what was your process to understand? Agar yeh pehli baar, what was your process to understand this? Kaise samjha aapne?
Paresh
Toh jaise maine yeh mention kiya I reached out and phir Vayu ke saath hamara discussion start hua. Vayu ne mere ko ek video bheji jahan par he was explaining me ki kaise yeh karna hai. Toh phir main jab kar raha tha, maine bhi apni video banayi aur Vayu ko bheji. Usmein pehli baar ek mistake bhi hui thi.
Ulta six karna tha, maine seedha six kar liya. Phir uske baare mein humne aise karke finalize kiya, okay, aise karna hai.
Sunny
Both of you can send this video in the community. It will help a lot. Okay?
Paresh
Yes.
Sunny
So this was, first of all eight loop agar kisi ko aata hai, matlab eight loop agar aap ek behaviorist ho aur aapko eight loop karna aata hai, you will be able to handle a lot of dogs.
A lot of high reactivity dogs. Agar aapko eight loop properly aata hai toh. Toh iska improper tareeka kya hota hai eight loop ka? Zyada pressure dena. Jaise hi aap zyada pressure dete ho, dog baukhla jaata hai. Like woh ek ghoda ban jaata hai. Okay? Start, toh is cheez ko understand karna ek high skill lagta hai.
Agar aap dono ne yeh cheez ko understand kar liya hai so congratulations aur woh video main bilkul dekhna chahunga ki aap kaise ek doosre ko bata rahe ho ki eight loop kaise karna hai.
Paresh
Sure. Okay. Yeah, so next question kiska? Yes, Tavisha ji ka, Tavisha ji ka pehle question unhone chat par bheja. Yes, Tavisha ji question hai toh please pooch lijiye.
Tavisha
Mera question yeh hai ki dekho kaafi circumstances mein hum log alag-alag route nahi le paate. Theek hai. Aap bol rahe ho ki jaise aapke paas matlab Ganpati ke kaam aur yeh sab we understand.
Toh waise hi agar ek ladki ka dekhenge toh uske haath mein bhi kaafi saari cheezein rehti hai. Toh woh samjho same route nahi le pa rahe. Main aise nahi bol rahi ki walk nahi kar rahe but same route nahi, matlab alag-alag route nahi le pa rahe.
Toh aap kya aap aise bologe matlab aapke kehne ka matlab sorry, aapke kehne ka matlab yeh hai ki dog ko jo bhi issue hai woh nahi seekh paayega.
Paresh
Kya question tha sorry, main samjha nahi.
Tavisha
Main yeh bol rahi hoon ki agar jaise aap bol rahe ho ki alag-alag jagah jaane se confidence aata hai, cheezein hoti hain alag-alag route pakadne se.
Toh agar maan lo for XYZ reason kisi ke paas nahi hai utna time ki woh roz ek alag route le le toh kya same route par bhi walk karwane se matlab hum dog ki us cheez par jaise aap Bhai Sahab ki reactivity par kaam kar rahe the toh waise hum log dog ki aisi cheezon par kaam kar sakte hain?
Paresh
Toh Tavisha ji depends on so many factors here. Jaise ki ab kisi ne mere ko reach out kiya, unhein puppy lena hai. Hum unse pehle poochenge aapka lifestyle kya hai? Kitna time spend karoge accordingly unke paas ek breed hoga.
Plus jaisa ki humne animal wale PPT mein dekha tha, jo basic needs hai woh movement hai, exploration hai.
Aap agar same jagah par lekar jaaoge toh woh utna fulfill nahi hoga. What I have understood. But ek individual lens se bhi dekhna padega. Agar ek dog sensitive hai toh usko roz nayi-nayi jagah nahi lekar jaana hai. Phir once in a while lekar jaana hai. Right? Agar woh sensitive hai toh same area mein aap ghumao.
Lekin agar confident hai toh roz nayi jagah lekar jaao. This will be my answer to your question.
Sunny
For example, inka, inka, inka question tha ki agar woh nahi le jaa pa rahe lekin confidence chahiye, yeh sab cheezein chahiye.
Toh agar ek ladki hai Tavisha ji jo aapka sawaal tha ki ek ladki hai aur woh nayi jagah par nahi lekar jaa pa rahi hai aur humein aur Paresh bol rahe hain ki bhai confidence dene ke liye nayi-nayi jagah lekar jaana hota hai lekin possible hi nahi hai.
Toh usi jagah par hum, hum dekhenge ki hum kaise nayi-nayi cheezein kara sakte hain. Hum usko desk ke upar chadha sakte hain. Hum usko seedhiyan bhaga sakte hain. Hum usko pipes ke upar chadha, pipe ke upar chadha sakte hain. Wahan par hum, wahan par hum kuch agility kar sakte hain.
So we will figure out ki alag-alag jagah le jaane ka matlab hai naye stimulations, naye stimulations. Dog ke liye aise hota hai naye stimulation kyunki woh nayi jagah jaa raha hai. Wahan par bahut log bahut proximity mein aa rahe hain. Bahut kareeb aa rahe hain jo pehle possible nahi tha.
Car itni-itni paas se aa rahi hai toh dog ko apni impulse ko kaabu mein rakhna hota hai. So it is uske liye challenging hai. Yehi challenging hum jahan par aap daily basis par karte ho, wahan par bhi kar sakte ho. But kya kisi nayi jagah par jaate ho toh aapko efforts kam ho jaate hain aapke.
Efforts kam ho jaate hain kyunki woh nayi jagah aapke liye sab cheezein kar rahi hai.
Lekin agar aap usi jagah par karte ho toh then you have to think about it, figure it out ki kaise usko agility dena hai, kaise yeh dena hai. So lekin kar sakte ho. Okay. Yes, second question Manya ka.
Manya
Yes, mera question tha ki exactly Bhai Sahab kyun react karte hain dogs ke saamne? Matlab out of insecurity kya hai? Matlab I am not able to understand abhi bhi ki woh reactivity ke peeche ka reason kya hai?
Anything that happened in matlab puppyhood mein kuch hua tha ya phir just- Manya I will not come to the conclusion directly because still I am in that learning phase.
Paresh
Main khud samajhne ki koshish kar raha hoon and frankly kabhi-kabhi meri Parth se baat hoti hai toh main usko aise mazaak mein bolta hoon ki main isko ek waqt khula off leash chhod dena chahta hoon aur dekhna chahta hoon.
Yeh aage jaakar unke paas sirf jaa raha hai. It his way of playing or he is going to attack them. I am also confused kyunki woh main kaise dekhoon and woh bachpan se hi Pari ke saath aise hi khelta hai. Aap logon ne woh terrace wali videos agar dekhi hain toh uske liye khelna hi wahi hai. Okay.
Lekin baaki dogs kaise react karenge? Yeh wahan jaakar bite karega nahi karega. I am still exploring those things. Mujhe nahi pata par kuch dogs ke saath ab yeh bilkul familiar hai. Ek German Shepherd hai. Woh female hai. Woh aati hai. Yeh bilkul react nahi karta. Baitha rehta hai.
Main use command deta hoon toh woh jaakar milta hai. Koi bark nahi, koi hackles khade nahi ho rahe, koi tension nahi. But at the same time jab yeh doosre logon ko dekh raha hai toh yeh tensed bhi hai, hyperactive bhi hai, reactivity bhi kar raha hai.
Mujhe lagta hai ki bhai sahab confused hai. Usko ye nahi pata ki karna kya hai aur meri taraf se wo inputs usko nahi jaa pa rahe. Agar wo baithta bhi hai toh main side se hil jaata hoon toh use apna space mil jaata hai. Wo dobaara reactivity karne lagta hai. Kyunki sign toh maine hi diya use.
Kabhi main jab main chaahta hoon ki ab hum aage jaayein toh main jaldi aage chala jaata hoon toh use lagta hai chalo attack kar rahe hain.
Plus Vayu ka bhi ek vision tha is par ki jab aap scooty par unhein run karwa rahe ho aur yahan par last mein ek dog hai toh kya wo usko as a prey toh nahi dekh raha ki chalo bhai scooty par bhaag rahe hain. Ab full throttle par 40 kilometers per hour par jaa rahe hain hum.
Wahan jaakar U-turn le le rahe hain aur phir aisa repeat, repeat, repeat roz hi ho raha hai toh usko I don't know usko aise bhi lag sakta hai ki jab koi dog dekha humne, bhaagenge uski taraf.
Kyunki yeh plan toh maine hi kiya hai. Lekin phir aage jaakar hum ghoom jaate hain toh woh aise dekhta rahega poora focus karke phir ghoom jaayega aur phir road ke doosre end par doosra dog hai phir wahan bhaagenge. Right, toh I am still learning, I cannot come to a conclusion on this.
Sunny
Guarding instincts hain uske.
Manya
Okay.
Sunny
Guarding instincts hain dog ke. Ek confident dog apne guarding instincts dikha raha hai. Okay, tum usko kisi bhi nazar se dekh sakte ho. Tum isko territorial ki nazar se dekh sakte ho, isko hyperactivity ki tarah dekh sakte ho, lekin yeh genetics hai. So ek dog, haan, ek dog tumhein guarding instincts dikha raha hai.
Wo uske guarding instincts hai, not biting instincts. Isliye Perish confused hai ki wo bite karega ya nahi karega. Kyunki usko, inko feel nahi ho raha uski biting ki intensity.
Okay, but wo guard kar raha hai, wo guard kar raha hai. So dog guard karte hain. German Shepherds are like guarding instincts hote hain unke andar. So kai baar tum uska matlab khojne jaaoge ki yeh territorial hai ya hyperness hai, yeh kya hai? But wo outcome kidhar se aa raha hai?
Uski guarding ki tendency ki taraf se aa raha hai. Okay, toh jab hum, jab hum eight loop use karte hain ya phir wo cheez ek, ek is tareeke ka approach use kar, karte hain jismein bahut fast correction milta hai without any pain.
Agar pain ke saath hum correction dete hain toh wo guarding instincts ko increase kar sakta hai. Okay, getting a point? Guarding instincts ko increase kar sakta hai jo slip leash mein hota hai ya phir collar hai na. Lekin prong collar mein, jab prong collar, prong collar bhi pain deta hai.
Lekin prong, prong collar se dog mein insecurity bhi tagdi aa sakti hai kyunki wo bite ko mimic karta hai. Toh usmein fear increase hokar wo peeche hota hai. Lekin jo eight loop hota hai usmein dog aage jaane se pehle hi hum bahut jaldi usko ek correction de dete hain.
Usmein pain bahut kam hota hai toh guarding instincts unki itni tez nahi aati. So eight loop work karta hai lekin inke saath, inka jo bhai sahab hai usmein guarding instincts hai. Hai na, guarding instincts hai. So ek cheez, ek baat poochhni hai mujhe Perish aap se.
Jab aapne ek female ke videos bheje the humare saath aur us samay maine aapko bola tha ki isko muzzle laga ke chhod do dekhne ke liye ki kya, kya karta hai us samay par.
Paresh
Wahi kiya. Muzzle, bina muzzle ke bhi wo uske saath khelta hai. Yeh wahi wali female hai jisko cross karwane ki baat chal.
Sunny
Pehle nahi, pehle nahi kar raha tha na. Pehle jaakar attack karne ki koshish kar raha tha wo.
Paresh
Pehle jaakar attack karne ki koshish kar raha tha. Phir jab dheere-dheere milwaya kyunki wo jo pet parent the, unhein toh cross karwana tha toh milwana hi padega. Toh phir jab humne chhoda toh they were fine. They were doing that process aur khel bhi rahe the. Aur yeh wahi same female hai.
Ab jab yeh aati hai toh yeh kuch nahi karta.
Sunny
Yeah, wo understood hua mujhe ki wahi same female hogi jis par wo pehle attack kar raha tha. So again wo jaise hi familiar hui yaani ab guard karne ki usko zaroorat nahi hai.
Paresh
Zaroorat nahi.
Sunny
Toh wo just like familiar ho gaya un sab cheezon se.
Paresh
Exactly.
Sunny
So har ek dog se, har ek gaay se, har ek bakri se iske andar guarding instincts trigger ho sakti hai. Koi aadmi, koi aadmi aayega jiske kapde is tareeke se phail rahe honge, uske haath mein kuch hoga, iske andar guarding instincts trigger ho jaayegi. Yeh guarding instincts hai.
Okay, iske peeche na territorial hai na kuch aur.
Matlab obviously territorial madad karti hai in sab jagah par. So guarding instinct without territorial kaise aa paayega? Lekin hum territorial is samay par consider nahi karte. Okay, hum territorial consider nahi karte. Hum yahan par guarding instincts ko consider karte hain.
Guarding instincts kitni powerful hogi, depend karta hai dog ke andar territorial instincts bhi kitni powerful hai. Phir yeh saari ki saari instincts kitni powerful hogi, depend karta hai dog ke andar prey drive kitni powerful hai.
Okay, so agar yeh prey drive bahut zyada powerful hai toh tumhein guarding instincts mein biting bhi dikhaai dene lag jaayegi. Lekin agar prey drive powerful nahi hai toh guarding instincts mein tumhein territorial behavior mein tumhein biting nahi dikhaai degi.
Okay, barking, lunging aur uske oopar jump karna, is tareeke se karna, lekin biting ka wo oorja nahi dikhegi uske andar.
Unke prey drive par depend karti hai phir wo. Isliye Indies mein jo guarding, unmein prey tumhein biting ke incident bahut zyada dikhenge. Kyunki German Shepherds mein wo prey drive nahi hai, wo tune down kar di gayi hai. Kyon? German Shepherds cattles ke liye karte hain, cattles ko kill karne ke liye thodi.
Toh wo tune down kar di gayi hai. Lekin Indies ke andar wo kahan se tune down hogi? Unka toh bhojan hi usse milta tha. So isliye humein jo prey drive hai wo Indies ke andar hai. Toh agar guarding instinct ek Indie ke andar hai, wo biting ki taraf bahut jaldi jaata hai. German Shepherd mein se zyada jaldi.
So that was guarding instinct Perish ji, okay.
Manya
So something matlab guarding instinct ko humein tone down karna hai through play ke, toh hum kar sakte hain koi aisa play unke saath karke?
Sunny
Guarding instincts tabhi work karti hai jab dog ko feel ho rahi hoti hai koi threat.
Okay, guarding instinct tabhi trigger hoti hai. Uske bina trigger nahi hoti. Toh for example agar tum dog ko yeh bata sako ki yeh threat nahi hai aur wo samajh sake us cheez ko ki yeh threat nahi hai toh wo shaant hota hai. Not through play. Play se tum uski prey drive ko kam kar sakte ho.
Agar prey drive uski guarding instincts ko trigger kar raha, power de raha hai toh through play tum prey drive ko kam kar sakte ho uski. Okay, tab tumhein kam powerful lagegi. Lekin still guarding instinct trigger hogi. Uska sirf ek hi solution hai aur wo dog ko familiar karna ki this is not a threat. Okay.
Yeah, wo jo Perish ji ne kiya ki bhai wo dog thi jiske oopar wo attack karta tha. Lekin humne pehle muzzle kiya aur usko chhod diya aur hum shaant rahe. Hum calm down rahe. Hum kuch nahi kar.
Manya
So maybe dogs ke saath socialize karwana matlab bade-bade groups mein usko lekar jaana toh wo I think help karega.
Sunny
Yes, jisse, jisse bhi usko threat feel ho raha hai, uske saath socialize karao. For example, agar guest se threat feel ho raha hai, guarding instinct trigger ho rahi hai toh guest ke saath usko socialize karana safely.
Agar kisi gaay ke saath usko guarding instinct trigger ho rahi hai toh gaay ke saath socialize karana ki this means no harm. Phir doosre dog ke saath socialize karana, this means no harm. Okay.
Manya
Okay.
Vayu
Thank you.
Sunny
Yes bhai aapka ek question hai Paresh.
Vayu
Yes sir. So is par jo apna question tha ki wo kya karega? Mera ek experience hai jisse main andaaz laga paa raha hoon. Kyunki maine na poora analyze kiya tha ki uska play kaisa hai, uska obedience kaisa hai and how is he around different dogs? Theek hai.
Toh jaise humne playing toh mujhe aise vision dikh raha hai ki even if you leave the dog wo agar door se gaze kar raha hai, usko door se dog dikh raha hai so he was reactive towards a female also.
Lekin jab wo paas ja raha hai na toh mostly maine dekha hai ki Max bhi female ke jab close aata hai na wo unko aise dekhta hai ki there is no threat or there is no need to fight or challenge anything. Wo thoda sa normalize ho jaata hai. Okay.
Lekin aap agar aap off leash karte bhi ho aur saamne ek male hai jise wo challenge feel kar raha hai but I can vision aisa ki wo jaakar kaatega bhi nahi but he will behave in a balanced way.
Shaayad aage ke do pair aise bang karke wo usko ek distance se hi safe distance se bhaunkega ya phir shaant ho jaayega analyze karke maybe agar sab theek raha toh.
Sunny
Max nahi Max se dekho jo bhai saab ki energy hai na wo Max se thodi zyaada hai.
Vayu
Yes, yes.
Sunny
Hai na intensity jo wo Max, Max se thodi zyaada hai. So hoga kya jab wo ek Indie ke paas jaayega ya phir ek stray ke paas jaayega aur wahaan par usne apni intensity dikhaayi toh wo bigad sakta hai saamne waala.
Agar wo bigad gaya, usne attack kar diya toh fight ho jaayegi completely. Iske andar, iske andar bhi fight lekin iski intensity Max se zyaada hai. Iski intensity so it can create fight, it can create fight.
Vayu
Brownie ka jo approach hai Brownie agar yahaan se nikli she will directly go and directly pounce attack. Lekin whereas Max ka jo difference tha wo main aise differentiate kar raha tha. React karega lekin jacket jaise direct bite nahi karega ya phir gol hi ghuma dega seedha on the floor.
Baad mein fight ho sakti hai because of.
Sunny
Fight ho sakti hai. Yeah, that's there, that's there.
Vayu
On the leash part na maine aise socha tha ki I will give him exposure first poora understand karne ke baad. Then usko dekho area mein usko kya ho raha hai ki sab usi area ke aas-paas ke wahi wahi dog dikh rahe hain aur uske gate ke baahar just right area direct bite bhi hogi.
It is still his territory. Toh wahaan par wo guard bhi kar raha tha lekin gate ke paas se toh aur territorial bhi ho raha tha. Toh usi way mein bhagaane se, usi ismein karne wo bohot comfortable ho chuka tha same dog, same thing.
Aur hum jaise seekhte hain ki dog ko jo bhi behavior hum log karne dete hain unknowingly, knowingly uske jab repetitions ho jaate so the dog becomes good at it. It can be a positive, positive thing and can be a negative thing as per us. So yahaan par wahi ho raha tha.
Iske liye unko pehle eight loop waala bohot dhyaan se bataaya tha video ki see maine ek example diya tha ki have you seen people playing PS5 ya phir PS ya phir have you seen people playing PUBG? Dono mein wo game hi khel rahe hain. Lekin PS5 ke remote ka jo handling hai ekdam thap, thap, thap rehta hai.
Bohot aisa harsh way mein rehta hai. Okay. On the other hand PUBG mein bhi hum log bohot sharp like headshots lete hain.
Ye sab maine aise explain kiya tha unko. Bohot precise rehta hai lekin unke fingers bohot aise nimble move hote hain screen par aaraam se. Toh jab aap eight loop use kar rahe ho, aap normal waali leash handling bhool jaao jismein aap kheench rahe the, oopar kheench rahe the. Ismein aapko waise hi nimble hona padega.
Literally yahaan se dust dene padenge aur usko pull up or never like do what you do on the leash. Aapko direction redirect karna hai.
So maine yahi bola jab bhai saab doosre dogs ko bhi dekhte rahega ki mera jo approach hai ek distance se aapko usko U-turn maaroge toh wo repetition se, repetition se uska association ye ho jaayega. And when we expose him to new territory uska brain hamesha busy rahega aur wo usko calm down karega.
Jaise usko five kilometers run kar rahe hain toh ye bhi uski train down karega aur uska perspective change ho jaayega.
There is a lot in the world. Tum wo desensitize ya phir kya bolte hain usko like normalize.
Paresh
Sorry to interrupt. I have a hard stop at 2:30.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah we also have a hard stop at 2:30. So I think yeah Vayu ki baat sahi hai yahaan par aur Vayu please apne video share karo wahaan par taaki hum bhi dekh sakein ki kaise eight loop like loop tum log practice kar rahe ho. So it's a good thing. Good, it's a good skill. So ab like aage badhte hain.
Aur kisi ke kuch sawaal hain Paresh ji se? Nahi. Tavisha ji ka. Yes, please Tavisha ji be quick.
Tavisha
Nahi, nahi sawaal nahi hai mera.
Sunny
Suggestion, yes, yes suggestions.
Tavisha
Haan. Toh mujhe aisa laga ki jo second part tha wo uski abhi zaroorat nahi thi toh wo shaayad nahi lena chaahiye tha agar aapko time constraint hai toh.
And secondly jab aapne Vayu ko wahaan samjhaane ke liye aur wo explain kar raha hai toh aapne beech mein hi bol diya which I feel is not the right way of doing that. So because I really wanted to understand ki uska perspective kya tha.
Aapne toh implement kiya but usne aapko kaise sikhaaya aur aapne kaise kiya wo follow. So I was more interested in that rather than the part two as of now. So- Tavisha ji thank you so much for the suggestion.
Paresh
Main is par kaam karoonga and a-ye already humne plan kiya hai. Ye session mera tha. Vayu ka bhi jaldi ek session aane waala hai jahaan par he will be telling you his journey. Toh main uske liye- Nahi, nahi.
Tavisha
Dekhiye aapka, aapka topic hai. I am not saying that topic should not be discussed.
What I am trying to say if you have a time constraint and if the topic which you have chosen us par aap agar kisi ko baat karne ke liye bol rahe hain toh wo aap karwaiye aur jo part two hai wo abhi is topic se related nahi hai.
Paresh
Suggestion taken.
Sunny
I think, I think Vayu aur Paresh ki achhi dosti chal rahi hai and kaafi time se wo baat kar rahe hain ek doosre se. So I think so it's, wo koi personal nahi tha. Paresh ji ne apna stage apne paas rakha aur Vayu ko usne diya tha stage ki bhai wo like bolo toh Vayu chaalu ho chuka tha.
But phir waapas se unhone apna stage le liya ki bhai mere stage par koi aur kaise aa gaya?
Paresh
Right.
Sunny
Ki bhai thodi der se.
Paresh
aata hai hi na.
Sunny
Mujhse galti ho gayi. So yeah so lekin ab second part hai. Jo aapne second part aapne bataya aur wo second part ye tha ki hum sab individual Like individual agar hum practice start karenge toh there will be a lot of things we have to work on it.
From branding se lekar marketing se lekar and different different cheezon se lekar customer acquisition se lekar unko handling karna, support dena and ongoing learning wo kaise hogi? So uska aapne solution diya ki kyon na hum ek team ki tarah aate hain. Yeh solution on theory on paper kaafi achha lagta hai.
But there is a lot of complexity is cheez ke andar poori community ko ek saath manage karke ki hum ek team ki tarah aage ja rahe hain. The biggest problem yeh aata hai ki business ka divide karna.
business ko kaise divide karna hai? Profits ko kaise matlab iske baare mein log baat pehle nahi karte hain and then man mein sabke chalta rehta hai. But this is the biggest thing jo ek cheez ko break karti hai aur wo hai profit sharing ki poori ki poori cheez hai ki kaise hoga, kaise kya hoga.
Hum sab log kaam kar rahe hain. Hum sab log time de rahe hain toh isko kaise hoga? So wahaan par humein sabse zyada mehnat karni hoti hai. Haan, iska plus point bahut zyada hai. Wo plus point yeh hai ki sabko for example marketing kisi ke har ek ki baat bas ki baat nahi hai.
Branding har ek kisi kisi ke bas ki baat nahi hai. Customer ko acquisition toh agar hum in sab cheezon mein aur humne dekha bhi hai ki hum in sab cheezon mein lagte hain aur in sab cheezon mein hamari practice neeche down jaane lagti hai.
Lekin again yeh ek achha idea hai aur iske upar ek suppose kar lo ek tareeqe se seed hai.
isko dekhenge ki aage hum is tareeqe ko kaise aage lekar jaate hain aur iske baare mein jaise Tavisha ji bol rahi hai.
Yeh ek another topic hona chahiye jismein hum ek aur thoda detail taiyari karke aa sake aur ek doosre se baat kar sake ki is idea ke baare mein tumhara kya vichar hai ki agar hum sab cheezein ise manage karein ya phir hum tumhari all website ya tumhare customer acquisitions ya tumhari customer relationship agar koi aur manage kare aur tum sirf skills ke upar dhyan do, tumhein kaisa lagta hai?
Kaise cheezein hoti hain? So yeh sab oopari bhi baatein hain. Lekin jo main deep baat hogi wo hoga business ka yeh karna ki kaise hum segregate karenge, kaise hum profit sharing karenge aur kaise hum kya kya cheezein karenge. So yeh deep cheez hai. Agar hum team ke saath jaate hain toh hamari growth fast hoti hai.
But again agar hum team ke saath jaate hain toh humein hamari like bond bhi jaldi khatam hota hai.
Hum jitna ek doosre ke saath kaam karte hain, hum aage jaane ki bhi hamare chances hote hain aur khatam hone ke chances bhi zyada badh jaate hain. So risk wahaan par rahega aur jahaan par risk hai wahaan par like growth bhi hai hi sahi. So I think that's it.
Aaj ke liye itna hi matlab jaldi khatam kar rahe hain is cheez ko. Aaj dhaai baje tak ka hamara time rehta hai. But again iske baare mein like aap sab log sochiye aur Kashish Bhatia aur Palushka ji aapka naam sahi se maine pronounce kiya Palushka ji. Yeah. So aapke paas courses ke access hai.
Aapko courses ke through go through hona chahiye. So jab humne shuruat mein yeh start kiya tha jab yeh first batch start ho raha tha tab sirf main hi aakar bolta tha aur main hi aakar sikhata tha.
Lekin recently yeh jab humne midterm evaluation rakha tab aur bhi humein inko aur aage lekar jaana hai jismein aap logon ko bhi chance milega completely yeh karne ka.
But aap logon ka aapka abhi evaluation par time hai. So aapka bhi learning ka wo hai. Yeh saare ke saare log kaafi time se jo hamari techniques hai, hamari philosophy ya phir hamari mindset hai usse go through ho rahe hain. Jaise ki aap dekh rahe ho ki har week calls hote hain, do calls hote hain.
So yeh kaafi time se usse go through ho rahe hain aur unhone courses ke upar bhi study kara hai. So sab logon ne courses se go through hue hain lekin Kashish Bhatia and Palushka ji abhi aap ismein naye ho.
Aap logon ko courses se go through hona chahiye aur paanch-paanch das-das chhah-chhah minutes ke taaki aapko ek overview mil jaaye aur taaki aap yeh calls aapko zyada value provide karne lag jaaye. Okay. So yeh chal rahe hain yahaan par toh ho sakta hai ki aapko lagta hai ki meri classes nahi ho rahi hain.
Meri classes hongi. Lekin yeh bahut zyada important hai jo already is batch mein students hai aur yahi same cheez aapko bhi karne ko milega.
Lekin aap logon ke liye courses available hai. Please us courses ka fayda lijiye aur aapke jo bhi sawaal hai aap in one of the these calls mein aap wo pooch sakte hain. Aaj ke call mein wo possible nahi ho paayega kyonki kaafi time ho chuka hai.
Lekin next call mein jaise Wednesday ko hai aap wahaan par pooch sakte hain aur waise hi bas ek do weekend aur hoga jab yeh log yeh aise sessions chalenge otherwise phir wo waapas se hum waapas se apni classes chaalu kar denge. Okay. Yes Kashish Sharma.
Speaker 8
Hi sorry. So would you be okay me taking session on Wednesday or it's a no?
Sunny
Waise toh main okay nahi tha lekin tumne bola ki weekend par tumhare kaam hai toh phir uske baad phir agar weekend ko- I did text you thoroughly.
Speaker 8
Aap ek baar Telegram check kariuega.
Sunny
Okay yeah matlab obviously matlab agar aap weekend ko nahi de sakte ho, dena toh zaroori hai. Lekin agar weekend par possible nahi hai toh hum phir Wednesday ko lenge. Wednesday ko lekin ek hi session lenge us samay par phir hum. So that's there. You can give agar possible hi nahi hai weekend par toh phir kya hoga?
Phir toh kuch karna hi padega.
Speaker 8
Really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Sunny
Oh thanks. Yes Prafull ji bahut time ke baad aap aaye ho.
Speaker 9
Yeah.
Sunny
Aawaaz nahi aa rahi. Abhi bhi door hi ho.
Speaker 9
Aawaaz aa rahi hai?
Sunny
Haan abhi aa rahi.
Speaker 9
Aawaaz.
Sunny
Nahi aa rahi.
Speaker 9
Better now?
Sunny
Zero. Yeah phir se boliye.
Speaker 9
Abhi aawaaz aa rahi hai?
Sunny
Yes, ekdam saaf aa rahi hai.
Speaker 9
Okay good afternoon everyone. Actually I wanted to ask you ki when is the next midterm exam session available slot matlab last week of October ke aas-paas because tab tak main ghar pahunch jaaoonga.
Sunny
Yes, yes abhi Sunday ko rahega. Har ek Sunday ko rahega. Okay.
Speaker 9
Okay, okay.
Sunny
Sunday ko, Sunday ko hai. Sunday ko rakhte hain. Yeah Sunday ko rahega. You can book. Yeh October mein hai. October mein sabke liye taaki sab clear ho jaaye. Then uske baad aapke sessions clear ho jaaye so that aage badhein.
Speaker 9
Okay that is one. Secondly mere jo submitted assignments hai uske I think grading saare complete nahi hue hain. So that I can get a feedback ki mujhe maine jo bataya aur jo main soch raha hoon wo sahi hai ya nahi hai.
Sunny
Yeah so abhi kuch logon ki gradings baaki hai, assignments ki baaki hai. Jinhone toh yeah that is remaining from my side ki mujhe grade karna hai aap sabke liye and please apna eval bhi book kara lijiye uske saath-saath.
So us grading ka wait mat kijiye. Kyunki grading ka wait mat kijiye. Lekin grading meri taraf se abhi pending hai.
Speaker 9
Yeah, I was just thinking ki agar grading pehle ho jaayega toh I will understand main sahi hoon ya galat hoon so that I perform better in the exam.
Sunny
Yeah, that's why keh raha hoon ki wait mat kijiye grading ka. Toh aap apna book kar lijiye. Don't wait all that. Okay?
Speaker 9
All right, all right. Uh, yeh ho gaya. Theek hai. I will also that maine beech mein attempt kiya tha one to one with you. Uske liye mujhe when would you have time? Uh...
Sunny
Again woh bhi Sunday ko hi slots hain. Okay, woh bhi Sunday ko hi slots hain. So, uh, share kar denge office se link.
Speaker 9
Theek hai.
Sunny
Yeah.
Speaker 9
Theek hai.
Sunny
Is week mein hai. Is week mein Sunday ko saare slots hain toh Sunday ko hum baat kar sakte hain. Okay? One on one bhi kar sakte hain, eval bhi kar sakte hain. So I will share the link with you.
Speaker 9
Theek hai. I have a- Sorry, sorry.
Sunny
Go on, go on, go on. Praful continue.
Speaker 9
Okay, I just want to say that I was away because, uh, I have been traveling continuously kaam ke liye and finally I will have some two to three weeks of break starting 10th of October. Toh tabhi I will want to come back and finish this.
Sunny
Yes, absolutely. Do it man. Kaisa hai? Kulfi kaisa hai?
Speaker 9
All good. Abhi filhaal my wife is taking him around. So he is okay, he is better, he is much better. And it is that uska I need to work on his anxiety with new things.
Sunny
Yeah.
Speaker 9
Matlab kuch bhi naya hota hai toh uska first reaction is to get matlab get worried, get anxious. He is not excited ki yeh kya hai. Matlab kuch naye agar environment waghera mein jaaye toh.
Aur ek very glaring issue that I want to discuss with you woh main one to one mein kar loonga agar yahan nahi toh, uh, is he has a big problem with babies, with kids, babies.
Sunny
Yeah. Problem means like attack karne jaata hai ya phir like bahut, bahut bark karne jaata hai.
Speaker 9
Attack, attack karne jaata hai.
Sunny
Yeah, got it. Uske primal, that's a prey drive. Uska prey drive saamne aa raha hai. Woh jab aawaaz karte baby tab jaata hai.
Speaker 9
Haan ji, tab zyada hota hai.
Sunny
Yeah, tab zyada hota hai. Aur iske paas squeaky toys diye hue hain kya isko?
Speaker 9
Haan.
Sunny
Squeaky toys toh hataane padenge.
Speaker 9
Okay.
Sunny
Yeah, that squeaky toys is like baby crying.
Speaker 9
Hmm.
Sunny
And woh daily basis par kya practice kar raha hai squeaky toy par?
Speaker 9
Woh actually, initially woh usko woh killing instinct jo dikhaata hai.
Haan, yes.
Sunny
kill, kill. Toh ab baccha royega toh uske dimaag mein kya aayega ki squeaky toy hai.
Speaker 9
Hmm.
Sunny
Toh squeaky toys toh main completely mana karta hoon. Dogs ko squeaky toys nahi dene chahiye aur khaaskar jin dogs ke andar insecurity of prey drive hai. Unko squeaky toys nahi milni chahiye. Unko accha, acchi bone milni chahiye aur shaanti milni chahiye.
Jismein se kuch bhi aawaaz aa rahi ho na, woh completely unki lives se hata deni chahiye.
Speaker 9
Okay. Apart from that, I have been working on his prey drive jaise main flirt pole hai mere paas uske liye bhi. Uh, woh and play mein frisbee waghera I use jisko matlab uska mental and physical stimulation dono handle karne ke liye usko restrain karke rakhta hoon.
Stay kara ke then I throw, I make him wait and then go retrieve so that uske andar ka impulse control bhi badhe. Toh yeh sab I, I will discuss with you in detail alone session mein I guess.
Sunny
Cool hai. Hmm. Theek hai.
Speaker 9
Okay, okay. That's all.
Sunny
Okay. Welcome back. Yeah.
Speaker 9
Thank you. Sunny bhai, yeh course, course ke liye thoda sa confusion tha toh Trupti se call par samajh sakte hain kya?
Sunny
Haan, samajh sakte hain. Community mein kuch bhi tum daaloge toh bhi tum bata sa- matlab reply denge tumhe uska. So koi bhi issue hai please pooch lo.
Speaker 9
Done, done.
Sunny
Okay, yeah. Yes, Ashita ji, what's the question?
Ashita
Okay, hi. So again, abhi I will take you back like thoda sa bataati hoon kya hua tha. Uh, pehle se maine bataaya tha aapko ki Gabbar aur Jackie ne dono ne ladayi kar li thi. Toh uska wound abhi almost heal ho chuka tha. Like, uh, I was thinking ki uska collar hata deti hoon and she will be fine.
So maine kal subah uska collar hataaya and she was like so happy ki finally mera collar hata hai and I was also like finally relaxed ki uska wound poora heal ho raha hai.
But uske pehle waale din maine logon ko walk par jab lekar gayi thi toh Gabbar was super happy like matlab with the collar also she was like super happy. Usne accha khaasa walk kiya and she was very happy. And doosre dogs bhi aaye the uske paas mein aane ke liye like woh neighbor aunty hai jo unke.
But she was ekdam calm. She was like not trying to like growl back or kuch bhi nahi kar rahi thi. Woh chupchaap meri taraf dekh rahi thi and chupchaap baith gayi. So she didn't do anything. Usko lekar aa gayi. Phir main Jackie ko lekar gayi.
Jackie ko woh jitna pehle woh darti thi vehicles jaane se aur woh sab hone se, woh kaafi uska better ho gaya hai. And she was also running with me. I took her for a run. Thoda distance uska run karaaya toh she was like looking back at me baar-baar but she was running.
Toh ek almost two rounds maine usko aise kiya but then woh aage nahi jaa rahi thi because matlab like the entire length of the colony half mein divide kar do toh the other half has the other dogs but then is side is comparatively free.
So she was trying to be this side only. I was like theek hai chalo is side agar comfortably bhaag rahi hai aur comfortably jaa rahi hai toh usko isi side lekar jaati hoon. I will not take her to the other side. Toh woh hua.
Uske baad mein jaise hi ghar mein aayi toh ghar ki direction mein toh woh waapas kheench rahi thi. Toh main usko lekar gayi gate ki udhar. Maine usko do minute shaanti se bithaaya but she was like andar jaana hai, andar jaana hai, andar jaana hai.
But I was like nahi, main nahi jaa rahi hoon jab tak tu shaant nahi hoti. So tu chupchaap shaant ho. Phir main usko dheere-dheere andar lekar aayi. Andar aane ke baad mein bhi maine usko do minute bithaaya. Phir uski leash nikaali aur phir woh andar gayi. So she was fine.
And then next day morning se jaise woh, uh, table, uh, jo hai uske neeche chali jaati hai, chair ke neeche wahan par jaakar baithi rehti hai. Toh maine khadi hokar usko aise bola Jackie, Jackie aaja. Toh woh thoda growl kari mere upar. Maine bola yeh kya hua hai? Pehli baar growl kar rahi hai.
Aise kabhi growl nahi karti hai.
Toh maine neeche baith ke upar usko bulaaya haath se action aise dekar. Toh woh bhaag ke aa gayi mere paas and she was fine. But uska face thoda sa dull dull lag raha tha. Haath-paanv par maine check kiya toh usko kuch lagi wagi toh nahi hai and she was fine. Thoda sa kam khaana khaaya us din usne parson.
And yeh kya bolte hain? Simba ke taraf bhi woh thoda sa growl kar rahi thi. Like poore uske daant dikha ke woh growl kar rahi thi jabki Simba ne kuch kiya bhi nahi tha. I was like isko thoda sa off behave kar rahi hai. Yeh kya hua hai isko? And I went to the gym.
By the time I came back matlab maine subah mein iska Gabbar ka- Collar nikaal diya tha because she is feeling comfortable and uska wound bhi almost heal ho chuka tha. Thoda sa tha but then nothing like oozing out or anything.
Toh jaise hi main ghar aayi toh my brother was like they fought again and bahut buri tarah se uska jo slit tha aur bhi zyada deep ho chuka hai and usne aur zyada bite kar liya.
Toh it was like terrible. Like I don't understand ki matlab ye suddenly waapas se kyun ek doosre se itni buri tarah se lad rahi hai ye log. and abhi she is matlab dikhne mein toh woh normally dikh rahi hai. but then doctor said ki is she eating, is she drinking? Toh I said she is doing absolutely everything fine.
but then kal thodi si dull lag rahi thi mere ko. but other than that no problem at all. but ye kyun aise react karti hai suddenly? and parson waali raat mein actually teeno cots inke saath mein hai na. Toh aage Gabbar uski cot ke saamne baithi hui thi. Toh I was like ki uske paas mein mat jaana.
Toh she was like ekdam aise neeche jhuk ke usko poora aise jaise uske upar pounce karne waali hai waisi ho rahi thi. I was like Jackie no and phir usko maine meri taraf bula liya tha. Toh tab usne kuch kiya nahi. Na growl kiya na kuch kiya.
she was just sneaking and usko aise dekh rahi thi woh. Toh mujhe laga kuch toh karne ka ye soch rahi hai kya hai ye? Toh maine usko hata diya tha udhar se. but phir kal usne dopahar mein aisa kar liya. Parson raat mein toh usko collar tha but kal dopahar mein uska collar nahi tha.
Toh main nahi thi saamne toh I exactly don't know what happened. but then what I have been told is ki ye apni jagah pe hi thi Jackie. Gabbar uske paas mein thoda sa aayi toh maybe she got irritated ya Gabbar ne thoda sa growl kiya toh ye aur zyada growl karne lag gayi upar and both attacked each other.
but abhi Jackie ko nahi lagi hai kuch bhi. Gabbar ko bahut buri tarah se abhi slit ho chuka hai and it's really bad. Toh maybe aaj shaam mein usko doctor stitches bhi lagayenge toh anesthesia wagairah dene ke liye. Matlab like she is fasting from morning.
Sunny
Okay, okay. so yeah matlab like so- mujhe ek side aisa lag raha hai but I don't know correct me if I am wrong ki like Gabbar is nine year old now and she is almost four years.
Ashita
Toh kya uske andar ye feeling aa rahi hai ki now since she is becoming old and she is becoming weak so is she trying to overpower her and like get her to dominate the place?
Sunny
Toh pehle woh maarti thi kya usko? Pehle woh maarti thi kya usko?
Ashita
Aise kuch bhi nahi karti thi. like Gabbar is very protective about Jackie and bachpan se usne Gabbar ne usko bahut protection diya hai.
like agar hum log abhi bhi agar jaise agar kuch galti ho Jackie ki, main usko daantoon ya hum log usko kuch bolein toh woh beech mein aakar haath se aise karti hai ki nahi usko mat karo usko chhod do.
Sunny
Hmm, hmm.
Ashita
but samajh mein nahi aa raha hai ki matlab why are they behaving like this? like kyun itna zyada jhagad rahe hain?
Sunny
so haan matlab ye like ye toh samajh mein nahi aayega ki kaise kyun itna jhagad rahe hain. Kyunki aap saamne bhi nahi the aur woh peeche se woh tha.
Kyunki pichli baar jab hua tha toh aapne bataya tha ki woh darwaaze ki wajah se ek doosre se bhid gaye the.
Ashita
Haan.
Sunny
Lekin phir bhi, phir bhi uske baad woh itni, itni fight kyun rahe? so mujhe bas ye samajh mein aa raha hai ki in dono ki energy level mein bahut zyada differences hai. Aur jo aap aur jo inko mental stimulation mil raha hai woh ek average tareeqe se mil raha hai. for example bada, badi dog kaun hai Jackie nahi Gabbar.
Ashita
Gabbar sabse old hai.
Sunny
Haan so jaise woh agar Gabbar ko itni walk chal rahi hai toh phir Jackie ko bhi utni walk mil rahi hai. Kya aap alag alag walks de rahe ho Jackie ko?
Ashita
Dono ko alag hi le jaati hoon main.
Sunny
Aur same amount of walk milti hai ya Jackie ko zyada mil raha hai?
Ashita
Nahi Jackie ko infact kam kyunki woh leash kheenchne lagti hai aur baith jaati hai ghar ki direction mein. Jaise hi aati hai woh andar jaane ke liye karti hai toh utna zyada nahi karti hai woh walk.
Sunny
so woh, woh ek problem hai na. Woh ek problem hai. Woh fear ki wajah se nahi kar rahi hai but uska woh agar uske andar woh energy badhti jaayegi toh uski growling aur ye sab cheezein bhi aapko zyada dekhne ko milegi aur fight bhi zyada dikhegi, fight bhi zyada dekhne ko milegi.
so Jackie, Gabbar ko toh kam walk chahiye lekin Jackie ko bahut zyada walk chahiye. Lekin woh ulta hai.
Ashita
okay, okay.
Sunny
Woh ulta hai. Jackie ko agar walk nahi milegi toh fight bahut karegi. Toh ya toh aap usko baahar lekar jaao, usko bicycle pe lekar jaao ya toh ghar mein treadmill lo. Jo ghar mein bhaage. Lekin usko kahin na kahin bhagaane ki zaroorat padegi.
Ashita
Woh bahut zyada darti hai. Bahut hi over sensitive hai woh toh.
Sunny
that is completely ek, woh ek other part hai. Main just aapko ye bataane ki koshish kar raha hoon ki kya zaroorat hai.
Ashita
okay.
Sunny
Woh matlab that is there ki woh darti hai toh ye ho nahi paata.
Main bas aapko ye bata raha hoon ki uski jo bite hai woh, woh ho kyun rahi hai? Woh isliye ho rahi hai kyunki usko jitni walks chahiye, jitni running chahiye. Aap uska body dekho. Uska body athletic body type hai na.
Ashita
Main aapko pictures bhejti hoon both of them are fine.
Sunny
Mere ko matlab maine dekha hai. Main just aapko bol raha hoon. Uski body ko observe kariye. Aapko athletic body type hai na uski Jackie ki.
Ashita
Haan.
Sunny
Like pet, pet andar hai, chest baahar hai. Uski body uska jo bone density hai woh halka hai, woh light hai. Woh hawa, hawa se baatein kar sakti hai. Matlab kind of it's like dhab dhab dhab is tareeqe se kar sakti hai. Woh ek athletic body type hai. Lekin usko walk kitni mil rahi hai? Jackie se bhi kam.
Gabbar se bhi, Gabbar se bhi kam.
Ashita
Gabbar se bhi kam. Haan.
Sunny
Lekin usko Gabbar se teen guna zyada walk chahiye.
Ashita
okay, okay.
Sunny
Agar usko ye walks nahi milegi toh ye issues badhte hue dikhenge aapko complete tareeqe se.
Aur woh dog ko nahi bataana ki bhai mujhe ye chahiye. Woh toh humein pata hai ki woh chahiye. Woh toh bol rahi hai mujhe darr hai, mere ko toh baahar nahi jaana. Ab woh baahar nahi jaana toh kya karegi? Woh ghar mein cheezein phaadegi. Parda hil raha hoga toh parde ko pakad legi.
Kuch cheezein- Nahi waisa toh kuch nahi karti hai.
Ashita
Waisa kuch bhi nahi, kuch destruction kuch bhi nahi karti.
Sunny
Toh again iske paas koi let out nahi hai. Agar destruction kar rahi hoti toh kuch let out hota. Udhar se let out hota ki bhai takiya phaad diya chalo bhai let out ho gaya. Ab takiya nahi toh dog ko phaad diya ya kuch khiloune ko. so unko let out toh chahiye.
Toh ye toh aur ek agar dog aur kuch nahi kar raha hota na toh hamaare paas aur red sign ho jaata hai. Ki ab ye phir nikaalega kaise? Ye energy nikaalega kaise? Toh phir kisi par attack karega ye. Toh woh dog pe attack kar raha hai.
Toh agar aap iski chaahte ho ki iski jo ye incident se khatam ho jaaye, kam ho jaaye, aapko walk aur running par toh bahut zyada dhyaan dena padega Jackie ke.
Ashita
okay.
Sunny
first thing woh ek sensitive, woh ek sensitive dog hai. Pehli cheez sensitive, sensitive dog bahut jaldi insecure ho jaate hain. Doosri cheez, teesri cheez woh ek athlete hai. Toh agar hum athleticism ke usko fulfill nahi karenge, uski sensitivity toh wahan hai hi sahi uski insecurity increase ho jaayegi.
Speaker 11
Actually aap jo bol rahe ho na ki matlab athletic matlab woh jump bhi karti hai na toh aise flight jaisa jump karti hai toh she is actually very athletic.
Sunny
Yeah, I know ki woh athletic hai lekin woh athleticism uska fulfill nahi hoga toh phir humein kya dekhne ko milega?
Speaker 11
Aggression aayega.
Sunny
Aggression milega. Aggression you can try on yourself. Aap band kar do apna baahar jaana, gym jaana and you see your behavior.
Speaker 11
Haan ji, I get very irritated that's there normal.
Sunny
So phir humein toh itni knowledge hai lekin still we get irritated because we are not able to fulfill our athleticism.
Speaker 11
Right.
Sunny
Dog have no concept of this. Toh agar humein usko shaant rakhna hai, humein uska athleticism fulfill karana hi padega. Jitna treadmill par aap bhaag rahe ho, utna treadmill par humein usko thoda aur zyada bhaagana padega usko. Bhale woh kitna hi darte hain but we have to do, we have to figure it out. Okay.
Speaker 11
Theek hai, theek hai. I will try something.
Sunny
Always. Yeah. What's your take on dog DNA testing? Woh DNA hum kis liye kar rahe hain us par depend karta hai. DNA ki testing hum kis liye kar rahe hain? Kya koi bimari pata lagana chahte hain ya phir genes pata lagana chahte hain ya phir uski history pata lagana chahte hain ki kidhar se hai.
DNA testing like Indies ka DNA test kar rahe hain toh kaun si breeds hai uske andar. Context kya hai?
Speaker 11
Context bas yahi hai ki aap bahut saari cheezein through these testings clear kar sakte ho.
Right. Certain genetic issues hote hain jo carry forward hote jaate hain. Matlab main particularly Aashwita ke context mein baat nahi kar rahi hoon but in general bol rahi hoon ki kayi baar aisi situation bhi ho jaati hai jahan par aapne chaar-paanch trainers, behaviorist ko consult kar liya.
Supposedly aapke dog ko aggression, biting ka problem hai toh aur woh kayi baar genes ya peeche se aa raha hota hai and then woh trainers kayi baar humare yahan toh aisa nahi hota hai but baahar countries mein kayi baar trainers phir euthanize karne ke liye suggestion de dete hain.
Toh in sab cheezon mein DNA testing waghera agar karwana ho kisi ko toh like mere ko in general aapka take jaanna chah rahi thi.
Sunny
Nahi work karega yeh sab cheezein. Hai na? Aur jo euthanization for example, for example euthanization ka toh phir yeh toh depend karta hai na trainer ke skill ke upar. Matlab trainer ke skill ke upar depend karta hai na ki bhai uski skill nahi thi toh usne bol diya ki bhai yeh dog toh theek ho hi nahi sakta.
Yeh toh kaafi boxed dimaag hai. Matlab.
Speaker 11
Haan sabke, sabke dogs alag ho sakte hain. Sabki training methods alag ho sakte hain. Kabhi hit kar bhi jaata hai. Lekin jaise kuch past trauma kisi dog ke upar itna aa gaya sensitivity ko lekar aur woh sensitive bhi hai basically. Toh DNA test aapko yeh help karwa sakta hai na.
Matlab humare Indian context mein agar main baat karoon toh aap uski reliability kitni dekhte ho?
Sunny
Zero. Zero. Matlab jo aap karna chah rahe ho uska toh zero hai.
Zero reliability hai DNA testing ki. So DNA testing it can give you like ki yeh dog is cheez ke liye zyada probability hai not 100%. Aisa nahi bolegi.
Speaker 11
There is no 100% surety about anything.
Sunny
Nahi, woh sirf aapko yeh bol sakta hai ki is dog ko cancer hone ke zyada chances hai because of this gene, expression of this gene. But there is not 100% guaranteed ki is dog ko cancer hoga hi sahi. Bas chances zyada hai. Environment par depend karta hai. Environment par depend karta hai.
For example insaano ke context main aapko deta hoon ki insaano ke context mein ek parivaar hai.
Parivaar saalon saalon se unko diabetes hote aa raha hai. Theek hai. Ab unke jo bacche, bacche honge unko diabetes hone ke chances increase honge. Lekin uska yeh matlab nahi ki unko diabetes hoga hi hoga. Kyunki diabetes environment par depend karta hai.
Lekin woh us, woh unka-unka shareer us-us-us stage par jaldi jaayega. Bas yeh bol sakte ho. Jaldi jaayega.
Speaker 11
Got it, got it.
Sunny
100% woh nahi hai usmein. So ab yahi cheez aap dogs mein laga sakte ho. In dogs mein guarding instinct zyada hogi aur yeh aggressive ho sakte hain lekin woh aggressive honge hi sahi. Yeh possible nahi.
Speaker 11
Jaise agar hum diabetes ki baat karein toh it's a very much lifestyle disease. Toh aise hi dogs ke saath bhi aap bol rahe ho.
Sunny
Aggression ya woh guarding instinct dikha sakte hain. Unke andar prey drive ho sakta hai, lekin woh bite mein convert hoga that is unka upbringing woh kaise ho rahi hai. Wahan par kya galtiyan ho rahi hai humse. Toh agar koi aapke agar suppose kar lo koi prey drive wala bahut zabardast dog hai.
Woh aage chalkar uske andar uske bacche hue aur unke andar prey drive hoga. Toh agar aap bachpan se lagaoge toh unke andar aggression nahi aayega. Agar bachpan se aap socialize karoge toh unke andar aggression nahi aayega. Lekin koi unko agar maarne aayega toh zaroor aapko unka prey drive saamne dikh jaayega.
Lekin woh aise hi nahi ki kisi ke upar aggression. Woh tabhi possible hoga ki hum shuruat se galtiyan karte aa rahe hain. So aur yeh dekhiye yeh euthanasia wala aur yeh sab cheez hai na. Yeh bahut common hai khaaskar West mein.
You know West mein Europe mein yeh sab cheezein bahut zyada common hai aur sirf ek hi trainer ya phir chaar trainer ne bol diya ki bhai unke agar suppose yeh advice di kab jaati hai jab saamne wala trainer ki skill us dog ko theek nahi kar paati hai ya phir solutions provide nahi kar paati hai.
Okay, so yeh kaisa criteria hai euthanasia dene ka? Yeh toh koi criteria nahi hona chahiye na. Bhala agar aap logically socho ki yeh criteria hai. Tum saamne wale tum theek nahi kar paaye. Tum solution nahi de paaye toh aapka dimaag mein kya aa gaya? Bhai yeh theek nahi ho sakta isko toh.
Yeh toh ego based thinking hoti hai isko toh. Matlab hum learn nahi chahte ki humein seekhne ki zaroorat hai. So euthanasia is completely depending depend on ki jo trainer hai, jo behaviorist hai uski skill kya hai aur usne us skill kaise dog ko analyze kiya hai.
So dog ki, dog ki life depend karti hai uski skill ke upar. Lekin woh toh yeh bahut- aise mein toh hum ek yeh bhi cheez bol sakte hain ki kisi bhi tarah ka behavioral issue agar aaya hai dog mein toh uske saath saare factors involved hai right from upbringing to routine to food to exercise everything is there.
Speaker 11
Then how do we prioritize one certain factor, just one aspect of it rather than others? Jaise humne rituals of dogs ki baat kari. Humein pata hai ki exploration unke liye zaroori hai.
Humne yeh bola ki theek hai mere dog ke saath yeh behavioral issue ho raha hai and jaise aur this is, this is a fact also kyunki aap-aapko bhi hai, hum log ko bhi idea ho gaya hai ab tak ki movement is a very important part in a dog's life.
Sunny
Yes.
Speaker 11
But then so is upbringing, so is food and everything.
Sunny
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 11
Ho sakta hai kisi dog ko din ke do ghante walk milti hai. Uska exercise accha hai lekin woh ghar aakar usko peet raha hai.
Kuchh bhi dikkat ho rahi hai toh.
Sunny
Dikkat ho rahi hai. Problem hogi, problem hogi. So yeah aapki baat sahi hai ki sab cheezein matter karti hai. So hamara focus kya, hamara focus kya rehta hai ki jo kaun si aisi cheez jo zyada se zyada result de sakti hai. Matlab obviously agar hamare paas, hamare paas so rituals of dogs sabse zyada result deti hai.
That's why hum rituals of dogs ko bolte hain. Matlab obviously phir aapko phir jaise jaise khana bhi impact karta hai, lekin khana rituals of dogs se zyada impact nahi karta. Aapka ghar par behavior bhi impact karta hai. Lekin rituals of dogs wo bhi cover karti hai ki affection kaise dena hai, kaise kya karna hai.
Speaker 11
Achha haan right, right. Humne jaise rituals of dog mein bhi hierarchy banayi hui hai, hai na? Ki pehle hum uska movement dekh rahe hain, then hum discipline dekh rahe hain. Haan, ye saari cheezein aa rahi hain toh main wahi samajhna chah rahi hoon ki how do you prioritize those things?
Kya usmein agar jaise kisi dog ke saath aapne rituals follow kare hue hain, aapka food achha chal raha hai, aapka let's say affection bhi achha chal raha hai but aapko phir bhi result nahi mil rahe and then you are like ki ab kaun sa next aspect ko humko analyze karna padega.
Then maybe you get DNA testing done jahan par aap thoda trace back kar sako ki kya health ke issues kuchh develop ho rahe hain ya develop hone wale hain ya chances hain usko develop karne ke which might be resulting in certain behavior.
Sunny
No, first time rituals of dogs dekhte hain. Uske baad jo human uske around hai unki energy dekhte hain. Wo kaise hai? This is the priority. Matlab unki energy matlab obviously unki energy hamesha, hamesha wo rehti hai.
Lekin agar dog par work nahi kar raha hai toh insaan mein kya kya wo kya galtiyan kar raha hai, wo kya cheezein kar raha hai, kharab kar raha hai, uska emotion baseline kya hai insaan ka jisko dog carry kar raha hai, dog absorb kar raha hai.
So we there aur ye khas kar aap dekhoge ki West mein is cheez ke upar bilkul bhi dhyan nahi diya jaata hai. Hai na euthanasia- But still there is some very interesting I want to talk about ki aap phir bhi dekhoge wahan ke jo dogs hote hain umm on some level I would say are much better behaved than our dogs.
That's what that is because of selective breeding. India mein wo selective breeding nahi hai.
Speaker 11
Okay. Then again that then okay.
Sunny
Wo selective breeding hai. Matlab wo selective breeding hai.
For example agar aap jaise maine bola ki aapke paas agar ek prey drive ka dog hai aur uske bachhe ho rahe hain so that there will be greater chances of developing guarding instincts, predator drive. Ye sab unke andar zyada hoga. Matlab nature ka- Backyard breeding wagairah bahut zyada hoti hai.
Haan, toh jo, jo wahan par waise hota hai aur jismein unhone dhyan nahi diya hua hai wahan par dogs mein aapko dekhne ko milega aur saath mein agar wo dogs unke paas chale gaye jinki koi knowledge hi nahi hai toh phir aapko wo zyada dekhne ko milega.
Lekin wahan par jis tareeqe se India mein toh saare backyard breeders hain. Jaise aap bol rahe ho wahan par kuchh, kuchh hai. Yahan toh maximum hui hai. So that is a big difference na yahan par aur wahan par hai bhi toh bhi wo breed ke baare mein umm zyada knowledge hai wahan par.
Ya India ke muqable mein agar dekha jaaye toh breed ke temperament ke baare mein ya genetic ke temperament ke baare mein wahan par zyada knowledge hai.
Yahan par India mein us tareeqe ki knowledge koi bhi breeder aapko temperament matlab bahut hi kam honge jo is tareeqe se baat karenge ki bhai genetics ke temperament kya hota hai ya phir breed ka temperament kya hota hai ya phir individual jo iske parents hai unka temperament ka kya hota hai?
So dogs genes carry karte hain aur wo genes ka expression ki probability increase hoti hai according to their parents probability not 100% probability. Okay.
Speaker 11
Phir aap gene makeup exactly kis, kis state par jaakar dekhoge? Jab aapko health wise issues lag rahe hain ya behavior, behavior se iska koi relation aap nahi rakhoge.
Sunny
Matlab behavior ke liye main toh kabhi genes ka test ka wo nahi karoonga ki mujhe genes ke testing chahiye.
Mere ko saamne jab dikh rahe hain iske andar guarding instincts hai toh humein genes mein kaise pata chalega ki ismein guarding instincts hote hain. Wo genes dekhkar kaise pata chalega? Wo toh parents ke behavior dekhkar genes I think body ki health ke baare mein bata sakta hai not mental ke baare mein.
Ki umm matlab mujhe itna idea nahi hai ki genes kaise mental cheezon ke baare mein bata sakta hai ki ye aisa iska behavior hoga, aisa iska wo hoga. Wo zaroor ye zaroor bata sakta hai ki like ki kaun si bimari zyada wo kar sakta hai. Lekin obviously behavior ke bhi genes hote hain. behavior ke bhi expressions hote hain.
But right now I have no idea ki, ki wo kaise hum usko figure out karke aur kaise hum usko 100% maan sakte hain. Kyunki environment ka sabse bada haath hota hai behavior shape karne mein, environment ka like 80-90% samajh lo. Environment ka haath hota hai. Toh phir wo genes ko karoge kya?
Jo kam hai 10% hai, 15% hai, 20% hai. Matlab like environment ka sabse bada haath hota hai behavior ka humans mein, animals mein har ek, har ek mein environment is the biggest factor, environment not. Isi ke baad isliye yeh bolta hoon genetic was the old science. Genetic science is the old science.
The new science after genetic is epigenetic, epigenetic. epigenetic abhi main, mainstream education mein nahi aayi hai but it is epigenetic. epigenetic matlab environment is impacting the expression of the genes.
Speaker 2
Interesting. Aap kuchh is par resource wagairah hai aapke paas share kar sakte hain.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah Doctor, Doctor, Doctor Bruce Lipton go watch Doctor Bruce Lipton Biology of Belief. Yeh book bhi hai aur YouTube par, YouTube par unka session bhi hai Biology of Belief.
okay.
Speaker 2
Okay, thank you so much.
Sunny
That is epigenetic. okay. okay guys that's it aaj ke liye itna hi so please apne- Sunny wo sorry bhai sahab wala jo tha wo abhi dry ho raha hai uska jo tail par tha and you were asking na wo kya hota hai wo process hai. Ya do cheezein ho sakti hai. Ek toh deworming ka ho sakta hai uski poop ki photos lene honge.
Thoda poop ke photos lo aur wo mere saath share karo aur doosri cheez yeh ho sakti hai ki kuchh chemical bhi ho sakta hai. Ghar par kuchh phenyl use kar rahe ho ya kuchh wo kar rahe ho.
Teesri cheez mites bhi ho sakte hain but I think deworming aur mites ke zyada chances dikh rahe hain yahan par toh poop ko observe karo uske photos lo. Theek hai.
Paresh
Theek hai and maine aapko ek one on one uske testicles ki photos bhi bheji thi toh us par aap ek baar check karna.
Sunny
Wo I think yaar wahi same do kuch phenyl kaun si use kar rahe ho ya kuch ghar par kuch liquid use kar rahe ho.
Paresh
Wo pet friendly hai aur testicle wala abhi ke liye nahi hai Sunny it was long back par ab wo waise hi hai. Matlab kuch ajeeb sa mere ko feel hota hai wahan par.
Sunny
Okay toh photos, photos kheench ke wapas se bhej dena. group mein share kar do usko hai na poop ka photo bhi share karna group mein toh pata chal jaayega ki usko like deworming ka issues ho raha hai ya phir kuch isko allergies ho rahi hai. environment ki allergies bhi hoti hai liquids se.
Bhale hum kitne pet friendly bol rahe hain par pet toh sab alag-alag hai na yaar.
Paresh
Theek hai sure.
Sunny
Yeah okay cool guys that's it. Aa guys phir milte hain.
Speaker 2
Mera ek maine aapko report bheji hui hai aap dekh lena uska abhi vomit usko ho raha hai abhi tak.
Sunny
vomit ho raha hai usko lagataar.
Speaker 2
Haan ho raha hai usko.
Sunny
Abhi last time kab hua vomit ki photo?
Speaker 2
Matlab aayi hi hai morning mein ho jaata hai usko aur aaj hi hua.
Sunny
Aur uske pehle kab hua tha?
Speaker 2
Uske pehle do teen din pehle.
Sunny
Ek baar photo kheench ke bhejo na kitni jhaag hai, kitna yellow hai usse samajh mein aata hai kaafi cheezein gas ki wajah se ho raha hai ya phir uski wajah se ho raha hai toh photos kitna zaroori hota hai.
Mujhe photos toh lagenge like agar vomit, vomit kaise wo deti hai clue andar batati hai kya hai vomit dekhte hain toh kuch cheez bahar aayi na uske andar kya bahar aaya. Uske andar kis tareeqe ke padarth bahar aaya, uske andar kya tha.
So I watch very closely matlab carefully unmein ki usme kya-kya cheezein bahar aayi hain, kitni jhaag hai, kitna color hai, color kis tareeqe ka hai, kitna dark hai, kitna light hai.
then poop mein bhi phir hum ye sab cheezein dekhte hain. So jab bhi kuch dog throw kare aur uske andar kuch issues chal rahe hain toh uske photos lo yahan par share karo so that I can go through that okay.
Speaker 2
Theek hai.
Sunny
Okay guys that's it aaj ke liye itna hi so please jitni bhi baatein hui hain please go through that aur usme dimaag mein lekar aaiye ki kaise like dog ke baare mein hum aur understand kar sakte hain aur logon ko bata sakte hain.
Hum pehle sabse pehle khud seekhein dog ko aur phir hum logon ko bhi awareness karana start karein. So Paresh ji ka jo second part tha we will talk about it later. But right now keep on learning, keep on understanding aur kuch bhi aapke sawaal aate hain community mein bindaas pooch liya karo. okay.
Aa guys ek doosre ki help bhi karo. Bye, bye.
Speaker 2
Thank you bye.
Paresh
Thank you everyone. Bye.
Sunny
Yeah bye.
Speaker 2
Thanks. Bye.
Sunny
Bye.
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