Pro group call · Sat 19 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 31 min
Reading dog and human energy: a biting Indie case study
The call opened with a member sharing how her dog's recurring UTIs were traced back to absorbing her husband's stress energy, leading into a discussion on how sensitive dogs absorb human emotions. Sunny then ran a live case study exercise about a three year old Indie who bites and attacks guests and other dogs on walks, guiding members to ask better diagnostic questions. The group learned that they were jumping to conclusions about the situation instead of first gathering information about the dog and the human as individual entities, and that the real root cause was the male owner's chronic tension being absorbed and reflected by the dog. The session closed with an explanation of Wim Hof breathing and meditation as tools to regulate human emotional baseline, which is what actually resolved the case, plus a preview of how to communicate this kind of feedback to clients.
Key points (6)
- Dogs absorb the emotional energy and stress of their humans, and more sensitive dogs show this faster and more visibly.
- When diagnosing a behavior case, first gather information about the dog and the human as individual entities before looking at situations.
- Asking about 'the situation' (when, where, how often) too early wastes time; questions should first reveal the dog's and human's emotional baseline and body language.
- In the case study, the dog's aggression was actually tension being mirrored from a chronically stressed, angry human handler, not true aggression or resource guarding.
- Leash handling skills alone will not fix a behavior problem if the root cause is the human's unmanaged tension; the human's emotional state must be addressed too.
- Wim Hof breathing and Dr. Joe Dispenza style meditation are science-backed tools recommended to change a person's emotional baseline and, in turn, their dog's behavior.
- On the call
- Kashish, Sunny, Reena, Anshul, Tavisha, Sakshi, Paresh, and others
Now in: Member's dog: stress related UTIs and absorbing owner's energy
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Transcript
Hindi written in English letters. The audio is the record.
Kashish
Usko phir se ho gaya. Toh I have come to realize something and yeh bahut saara permutation combinations again check again and again and again and again and uske baad pata chala.
So I kept checking everything, kept marking everything and we come to realize that she is also affected by our energy specifically my husband energies.
Sunny
Okay.
Kashish
And jab-jab woh upar ya neeche jaati hai.
Sunny
Haan.
Kashish
She gets UTI. She gets stressed and eventually she gets a UTI.
Sunny
Yes, yes stress related hai. Stress related hai.
Kashish
And not only her stress related, of course like usko pass, pass down ho jaata hai har kisi ka energy you know dogs get it. But this was so fascinating and mind boggling for me like how come she is catching this? And then of course I studied more on this and humne aisa dots connect karne ka koshish kiya.
We came to yes every time, every time most of the time like if you say out of 100, 80% of the time.
Sunny
Achha maine kai baar bola bhi ki dogs ekdam sponge ke tarah hote hain. Sponge ka sponge se lena-dena matlab sponge ka aawaaz aa rahi hai? So sponge se sponge se matlab kya hota hai ki it's like woh aaspaas ke energy ko absorb karte hain.
Aur actual mein energy aise sunne mein ek spiritual word lagta, word lagta hai ki kya actual mein energy kya that's our emotions hai hamare. Hamare emotion yeah so hamare emotions vibrations create karte hain.
Matlab it's science, it's not ki jaise apan kisi ke paas jaakar baithte hain toh apan ko ho sakta hai shaanti feel ho. Hum usse baat bhi nahi kar rahe aur humein lagta hai aur hum agar kisi ke paas jaakar baithte hain humein frustration feel ho sakti hai.
Bhale hum usse baat bhi nahi kar rahe lekin hum frustrated feel ho sakte hain. And then that is that vibration. Ya phir hum kab kahin aisi jagah par jaate hain ya phir jaise koi religious jagah ho ya phir koi mandir ki jagah ho ya phir koi aashram ho jahan par meditation hota ho then we feel very peaceful there.
So because of that energy, because of that vibration. Woh vibration kahan se aati hai? Wahan par jo log rehte hain ya jo bhi beings hain wahan par unki emotional frequencies hai.
Unki emotional frequencies hai. So agar ghar mein koi pareshaan hota hai ya kuch bhi hota hai toh obviously woh bhale hi dog ho ya phir woh bachhe ho ya phir doosre log bhi ho, woh usko absorb karte hain. Jo sensitive zyada hote hain woh zyada absorb karte hain.
Okay so jis dog mein problem yeh aapko zyada dikhaai dene ko milegi woh zyada sensitive ki taraf hai. Sensitive ke spectrum ki taraf hai zyada. So uske andar aapko yeh zyada dekhne ko, uske andar pehle dekhne ko milega, jaldi dekhne ko milega. Sensitivity ka matlab kya hota hai?
Humans aur animals mein same time par woh zyada data absorb kar sakte hain. Okay that's the sensitivity. Matlab do log hain saamne hain. Unki sensitivity ka level ka matlab kya hai? Ek banda usi itne time par aur zyada data acquire kar sakta hai toh woh zyada sensitive hai.
Zyada sensitive hai. So woh dogs ke saath bhi hota hai and this is very common lekin woh itna commonly dikhta nahi hai. Observe nahi hota. Log itni jaldi usko bata pakad nahi paate ki this is because of hamare ghar ki emotions.
So kai baar dogs mein kuch issue aa raha hota hai toh achha hota hai ki hum apne ghar par bhi dekh lein ki wahan par toh koi issue nahi chal raha. Just woh dog jaldi carry kar raha hai.
So ho sakta hai ki jaise dog beemaar padta ho toh kuch time ke baad ghar ka koi family member bhi beemaar agar hum catch nahi kar rahe usko ya hamara mindset change nahi ho raha toh woh bhi beemaari ki taraf ja sakta hai. Okay ghar ka member bhi mentally and this thing.
So lekin ab is cheez ko kaise aap solve kar sakte ho na dogs ko toh dogs stress release karte hain. Hai na. Woh stress kaise release karte hain? Bhaag ke, daud ke, walk kara ke lambi.
Toh kabhi bhi jab bhi aisa hoga ki aapki walks mein issues aa rahe hain tab aapko dog ke andar issues badhte hue dikhaai denge kyunki woh apni stress release nahi kar paa raha. Okay. Apne jo usne emotions ko gather kiya hai, absorb kiya usko release nahi kar paa raha. So beemaariyon mein nikalta hai phir woh.
Kashish
Right, right.
Sunny
Yeah so that is good observation. That's a good. Toh usko abhi phir hua hai?
Kashish
Haan abhi usko teen din pehle hua tha and ab woh theek hai.
Sunny
But lekin woh abhi bahut saari cheezein bhi hui na like aap doosre ghar par bhi gaye the kisi aapne mother ke ghar par.
Kashish
Right toh hum apne ghar par waapas aaye and everything was okay. Toh jaise hi specifically she is very connected to my husband. Uske emotions aise jaate hain ki arey yaar, arey yaar usko woh, woh bhi aise hoga aapko dikhne lagega.
Uske chehre par aisa lagta hai ki xerox copy hai dono ek doosre ki.
Sunny
Haan, haan woh toh hota hai. Haan.
Kashish
Kya yaar, kya yaar? Agar woh aise bhi jaata hai toh woh bhi kya yaar.
Sunny
Kya yaar. Haan. Yeh bhi aise hi karti hogi.
Kashish
Yeh bhi utni utni baari aise-aise ki susu, susu, susu.
Sunny
Okay, okay yeah so toh woh toh aapko stress toh aaya hi na. Bhale woh ghar ka bhi ho, kahin ka stress toh aaya na. Toh jab bhi stress mein aayegi toh aapko yeh issues badhte hue dikh rahe hain. It is because of stress, not because of woh baahar bush mein jaakar susu kar rahi hai ya phir isliye susu kar rahi hai.
Aap baar-baar usko saaf kar rahe ho because of that. Usse kuch fark nahi padega.
Kashish
Right.
Sunny
Usse koi fark. Yeah that's a toh uska stress release karna zaroori hoga aur phir ghar par bhi observe karna hoga ki yaar kahin kuch issue toh nahi chal raha jo hum solve kar sakte hain.
Kashish
Right. Ek aur cheez jo maine isme notice ki is that she has a lot of hair on her hips.
Sunny
Yeah.
Kashish
Not back tail ke side par like on both uski bummies are quite heavy waala bummies hai na. Toh we need to keep trimming them because woh jab bhi baithti hai toh usko na cat ki tarah chhup ke andar aise karna hai ki main kisi ko dikhoon hi na.
Sunny
Hmm.
Kashish
Pook diya toh woh us wajah se bhi usko clean karna padta hai because woh bahut ghaas mein phans ke baithti hai.
Sunny
Ya usko trim trim karke rakh sakte ho un sab cheezon ko. Woh bhi ek additional woh rahega lekin main aapka stress ka hi rahega.
Kashish
Yeah.
Sunny
Stress rahega.
Kashish
Right. Toh bahut saari meals change hui, medications hui aur uske baad samajh aaya ki oh yeah she is taking on stress.
Sunny
Yes, woh toh hai. Dogs lete hain stress ke upar. Okay. Yeah. So yeah work on that. Woh stress ke upar work kar sakte ho and woh easily work ho jaata hai dog ke saath kind of ki walk kara liya, running kara liya, swimming ka session kara liya and all these things.
Toh right direction mein kaam karenge toh jaldi results milte hain. Okay.
Kashish
Sure, sure.
Sunny
Cool hai. So guys aaj ka call case study ke upar hai aur humne pehle bhi case study ke upar liya tha aur is case study ka format kya rehta hai? Is format mein main aapko just ek jaise mere paas call aate hain. Yeh real life cases ke upar hai saari ki saari.
Toh jaise mere paas jo call aata hai main exactly aapko batata hoon and then uske baad main kaise questions lena start karta hoon woh main aapko nahi batata. Main bas shuruaat ki cheez batata hoon. Phir aap sab milkar mujhse sawaal poochte ho and isko figure out karte ho ki dog mein kya issue hai.
Got it? Sabko samjha yeh? Okay. So aaj ka case hai ek dog ka aur pehle woh ek Indie hai aur teen saal ka hai aur humare paas call aata hai uska aur uske humans, uske human hai aur male hai.
Woh humko call karte hain aur bolte hain ki mera dog snap karta hai, bite karta hai aur jab hum usko walk pe lekar jaate hain toh doosre dog ki taraf bahut zyada aggressive ho jaata hai. Ghar par koi members aate hain ya koi guest aate hain toh unki taraf bahut bark karta hai aur bite karne ki taraf bhi badhta hai.
So this is the initial jo humare paas call aaya. Ab iske baad iske aage kya hoga woh aap log drive karoge.
So kaun mujhse suppose kar lo main client hoon. Okay. Main client hoon. Mere paas aisa dog hai jo is tareeke se behave kar raha hai jo maine aap logon ko bataya. Ab main aapke saamne baitha hoon. You can ask me questions. Toh kaun pehle question poochna chaalu karega? Isse humara maksad kya hai is case study se?
Aapko diagnose karna hai ki dog ke andar issue kya hai aur usko solve kaise ho, woh solve kaise hoga? Okay.
Kashish
Can you repeat the question again last waali lines ki woh snap karta hai.
Sunny
Woh snap karta hai doosron ke upar, woh bark karta hai aur woh kaafi aggressively walk ke time par doosre dogs ke upar attack karta hai. This is the initial unka statement. Who will ask? Please raise your hand. Aise mat karo aisa. Raise your hands, okay? Please raise your hand.
Kaun poochega question first and then begin.
Yes, Reena ji please ask.
Reena
Mera number pehle hi aa gaya.
I was mid of something maine apna video bhi off kiya hua tha but anyways hum sabse pehle toh uske yahi poochenge na saara structure ka, uska routine ka, uske background ka ki you know like kis circumstances mein woh laaye the usko and uska behavior yeh progress kiya hai over a period of time ya yeh abhi recent hai kuch?
Sunny
Nahi, yeh sabse pehle nahi aayega abhi. Like it's yeh thoda later stage mein aayega yeh saari ki saari cheezein.
Yes, Reena ji jo aap bol rahe ho na yeh aata hai near kis cheez ke jab hum already diagnosis ho chuki hai humari ki dog ke andar kya cheez ho sakti hai then hum phir verify karne ke liye yeh cheez poora karte hain.
Lekin usse pehle kaafi questions humein poochne hote hain clients se.
Reena
I meant ek aur haan sex yeh saari cheezein bhi. Yeah, neutered, not neutered.
Sunny
Just ask me the direct question. Main client hoon. Just ask me the direct question. Reena ji I will come back to you waapas se. Yes.
Reena
Yeah.
Sunny
Kashish Sharma.
Kashish
Okay. So kya woh bade objects ko dekh ke cheer-faad karta hai ya unse darta hai?
Sunny
Nahi, woh darta toh nahi hai lekin kabhi hum usko cheez de dete hain jaise cardboard de diya toh woh usko khelne ki tarah zaroor istemaal karta hai.
Kashish
Toh sirf khelne ki taraf hi ya nibbing bhi karta hai?
Sunny
Nibbing matlab?
Kashish
Matlab usko thoda-thoda ghutna aisa kuch karta hai.
Sunny
Haan, matlab khelte time woh usko faadta hai. Zameen se leta hai aise faadta hai and is tareeke se behave karta hai jab bhi hum usko kuch cardboard dete hain ya phir kuch thaili de dete hain toh.
Kashish
Okay aur I guess other people should also ask.
Sunny
Yes, yes Sakshi ji.
Speaker 4
Hi. Toh yeh dog ka bite jo aap bol rahe hain ki bite karne ki koshish karta hai toh woh kaise karta hai? Matlab woh jaata hai- bahut aggressive karta hai. Usko pakad leta hai ya phir pakadta hai phir chhodta hai phir peeche hatta hai phir aage jaata hai pakadne.
Sunny
Matlab kabhi humne is tareeke se mauka nahi diya. Woh jaise hi woh attack hua hai usmein jaise ki hum chillaate hain toh peeche hat jaata hai woh lekin woh attack karta hai. Blood nikla hai.
Speaker 4
Blood nikla. Okay.
Sunny
Yeah. Okay. Yes, next- abhi mera ek question. Yeah next Anshul. Apne haath neeche karte jaao phir waapas se utha lena yaar. Hai na? Yes, Anshul.
Anshul
So Sunny first like as you informed us like we need to work on our rituals as whenever we get a case. So first we will check like at a time of walk when you start like you take him out so like he is excited in which condition it is he or she is.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah.
Anshul
Uske baad- abhi dekho Anshul dekho yahan par do tangent samajh mein aayi thi humko.
Sunny
Ek toh ghar mein bhi attack ho raha hai aur baahar mein bhi attack ho raha hai. Toh you aapne baahar waala pick kiya that is good. Lekin do tangent hai yeh hum sabko samajhne padenge. Ghar par bhi attack hota hai, baahar mein bhi attack hota hai. So baahar ka diagnose karenge, ghar ka diagnose karenge.
Toh you started from baahar ka diagnose. Okay. Now ask- As both like what condition it she or he is in ki jab bhi aap ghar se baahar jaa rahe ho toh woh kis situation mein hai ki woh matlab excited hai, hyper excited hai ya phir normal jaise aap walk karke jaa rahe ho, calmly woh jaa raha hai aur calmly aa raha hai.
Calmly jaata hai, calmly aata hai. Koi excitement ke tare nahi aata.
Anshul
Uske baad jab bhi jab jo walk ki timing hai woh kya hai? Matlab aap kitne times par walk de rahe ho? Matlab kitna do teen do baar de rahe ho, ek baar de rahe ho, sirf chhota walk de rahe ho.
Sunny
Din mein, din mein, din mein teen baar toh at least chalta hi hai. Do toh bade walk hote hain aur ek chhota walk hota hai aur dono jo walks hote hain woh 45-45, 50 minutes ke hote hain.
Anshul
Okay, theek hai. Aur jaise aap jab jo ghar par agar woh hai toh uska koi matlab ek basic specific structure hai ki woh ya phir woh poore ghar par ghoom sakta hai ya phir normal uska koi specific area hai ki jahan par aap usko allow karte ho, wahan rehta hai ya jaise aapko ghoom sakte ho.
wahan ek designated area.
Sunny
Ghar par jab hum matlab hum sab jab hote hain toh bahut disciplined hai.
Anshul
Okay.
Sunny
Agar usko bolte hain.
Anshul
Family members ko attack ho rahe hain.
Sunny
Nahin, family members ko attack nahin ho raha. Jo guest aate hain unko attack hota hai.
Anshul
Yes, other than family member attack ho rahe hain.
Sunny
Other than, other than family members.
Anshul
Okay, toh usko unknown faces se matlab uska koi ek koi aapke hisaab se koi bad experience past mein raha ho ya phir aisa kuch.
Sunny
Aisa past nahin, aisa koi bhi experience nahin hai. Lekin jaise wo dheere-dheere bachpan se hi wo thoda gurraata toh tha, lekin wo dheere-dheere badhta gaya aur wo bite mein badal gaya uska.
Anshul
Okay.
Sunny
Bite mein badal gaya.
Anshul
Theek hai.
Sunny
Okay, yeah cool hai. Yes Sakshi. Lekin sochte raho sab apne dimaag mein.
Okay, us, us dog ka image dimaag mein lekar aao ki wo dog kaisa hoga, kaisa dikhta hoga, uska body structure kaisa hoga, uska human kaisa hoga? Just start some thode dhundhla-dhundhla dikhaai dene lagega and then uske according questions poochna start karo. Yes Sakshi ji.
Speaker 4
I think Kashish pehle.
Sunny
Okay, yes Kashish.
Speaker 4
Kya wo dog startled bhi hota hai cheezon ki movement se?
Sunny
Startled toh hota hai. Jaise dogs mein itna startled nahin hota. Jaise kabhi parda hila toh ekdam ghabra gaya. Lekin phir dekhega ki kya hai. Phir shaant ho jaayega.
Speaker 4
Phir shaant ho jaayega. Aur kya wo neend mein bhi startled hota hai?
Sunny
Matlab jaise dogs neend mein bhi startled ho jaate hain, waise ho, waise ho jaata hai. Wo startled ho jaata hai lekin not out of an ordinary kind of thing.
that's wo itna attack nahin karta. just wo startled aise karke uth ke baith jaayega. Kabhi kuch nahin hota hai.
Speaker 4
Aisa jaata hai aur wo peeche aa jaata hai.
Sunny
Guest apne ghar ke, ghar ke members ki tarah wo bahut loving hai aur bahut shaanti se rehta hai. Bahut disciplined mein rehta hai.
Speaker 4
Okay.
Sunny
Yes, yes next is Sakshi ji.
Speaker 4
Toh ye jo dog hai, ye leash dogs ki taraf aggression dikhaata hai baahar ki strays ki taraf bhi dikhaata hai?
Sunny
Dono mein se kisi ki bhi taraf dikha sakta hai. Kisi ki taraf bhi dikhaata hai.
Speaker 4
Okay aur first incident aapne kab notice kiya tha ye biting wala?
Sunny
Toh biting wala jab ye bada ho raha tha, so ek do saal pehle humne dekha tha. Ek do saal pehle pehla bite hua tha jab guest ghar par aaye the aur wo usko haath laga rahe the aur isne bite kar liya tha unko.
So pehla bite tab hua tha aur uske pehle hi baahar reactions toh iska thoda-thoda chaalu hone lag gaya tha doosron uski taraf, doosre dogs ki taraf.
Speaker 4
Okay, that's enough.
Sunny
Okay, yes Reena ji your next.
Reena
Ek toh ye ki ghar jab waapas aata hai toh wo zyaada time kya leash pe bandha hua rehta hai?
Sunny
Nahin, khula rehta hai.
Reena
Okay aur jab bachpan mein jab growl karta tha matlab uski socialization kaisi rahi thi? Jab growl karta tha was he given love and affection at that time? Jab koi aata tha.
Sunny
Nahin socializing toh aisa, aisa kuch humne socializing ke oopar toh kaam kiya nahin kyunki ghar par sabke liye theek hi tha aur COVID ke time par aaya tha toh baahar aise guest bhi nahin the.
Lekin jab guest aane lage toh shuruaat mein toh ye theek tha lekin jaise-jaise bada hone laga toh unki taraf growl aur attack karna iska chaalu ho gaya.
Reena
Toh guest jab aate hain toh wo excitement zyaada show karte hain aur tab ye zyaada karta hai ya in any case chup aur calmly aaye tab bhi un par aise hi attack karta hai.
Sunny
Ye saare log jo bhi aate hain baahar bhale courier bhi aaya toh unki taraf bhi attack karne jaata hai. Bhale wo shaanti se baahar hi khade rahe, unki taraf bhi attack karne jaata hai.
Reena
Toh thoda territorial wali cheez ka bhi hum consider kar sakte hain. Is he neutered?
Sunny
Nahin neutered, neutered isko chhah mahine pehle kara diya tha.
Reena
Toh uske neutering ke baad koi fark pada.
Sunny
Nahin, koi fark nahin pada. Zero.
Reena
Okay, boundaries aur ye sab cheezein structure, walk and everything is in order. and otherwise koi medical history aur koi issues bhi nahin hai.
Sunny
Nahin, koi issue nahin hai. Bahut healthy dog hai aur kaafi happy rehta hai. Kaafi ghoomta phirta hai aur achha-achha, achha, achhi diet hai aur achha weight hai.
Reena
Jo most COVID dogs hain unka they lacked socializing from what I know unmein zyaadatar problems COVID ki duration mein yahi aaya kyunki itni silence aur us sab mein aaye hain aur uske baad sudden logon ka aur ye sab cheezein they found it difficult to handle.
Sunny
Haan, lekin agar aap ye, agar aap ye dekho abhi main clients se hat ke baat karta hoon. Lekin agar aap dekho ye sab issues COVID se pehle bhi the.
Reena
Okay.
Sunny
It's not ki badh jaaye. COVID ek bahaana mil gaya bataane ke liye ki because of COVID ye issue hai. It is always because of the human ka behavior. It's always because of that. It's not because of.
Reena
Guest wagairah jab aate hain toh do they approach him or they the dog approaches the.
Sunny
Ab toh humne directly unko mana kar diya ki aap bilkul bhi approach nahin kar sakte unko aur dog ko toh hum door karke rakhte hain nahin toh wo attack kar dega sure shot. Wo growl zaroor karta hai toh is liye mein unko alag band bhi karna padta hai kai baar.
Reena
Nahin toh enter karte hain toh aisa toh nahin hai ki uski intimate space mein jaate hain. Tab first bite aisa hua tha ki uski intimate space mein gaye aur tab.
Sunny
Dog hi aaya tha. Dog hi aaya tha paas mein. Dog hi paas mein aaya aur pet karaane aaya tha aur wo pet kar rahe the aur isne attack kar diya uske oopar. lady ke oopar.
Reena
Maybe wo pet karaane nahin aaya hoga. Wo toh unko sniff karne aaya hoga aur just.
Sunny
Ye ho sakta hai. Humein nahin pata.
Reena
Haan toh jaise log, um, maine abhi bhi recently bhi mere yahan koi aaye the toh bhi wo bata rahe the ki oh tumhaare dog ki toh tail wag kar rahi hai.
He was on leash with me and I told them ki no ye wali, um, happiness wali tail wagging nahin hai.
Sunny
Wagging nahin hai.
Reena
He is trying to figure out. Haan toh it's possible.
Sunny
Haan ki idhar aap ho, ho jaaye.
Reena
Hai na? Toh it's possible ki wo bhi jab paas aaya aur sniff karne aaya aur wo sirf gauge karne ki koshish kar raha hai and the person tried and then he snapped.
Sunny
Ho sakta hai, lekin wo shuruaat se matlab usse pehle bhi wo aata tha aur pyaar karaata tha. Lekin ab ekdam usne attack kar diya toh pata kaise chale humko phir?
Reena
Okay, okay. Let me think of more questions.
Sunny
Yes, yes Sakshi.
Speaker 4
Thoda mujhe, um, jo human hai, unki energy samajhni hai.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 4
And also, um, jab dog attack karta hai toh uska body posture kis tarah se rehta hai? Kya rehta hai?
Sunny
To ask, ask questions na. Achha agar tumhe, agar aapko uski energy samajhni hai human ki toh ask question related to that. Aur agar dog ki- Sunny the human is also here.
Reena
So ask Sunny the question.
Speaker 4
Sorry?
Reena
Sunny is the human here. He is the client.
Speaker 4
Achha okay, okay.
Sunny
Yeah, ask, ask me the question na. Main client hoon toh mere se, meri shakal par mat jao kyonki shakal se tumhe samajh mein nahi aayega. Matlab shakal matlab meri emotional us par mat jao, baseline par mat jao. Kyonki meri emotional baseline ko agar consider karoge toh woh human ki emotional baseline nahi hai. Hai na?
Mujhe apna chehra change karna padega tum samajh jaoge kya hai. So, so ask questions ki tumhe woh emo-sahi direction mein ho. Yeh bol sakta hoon main. Ask questions lekin. Achhe questions poocho aur D-D dog ko samajhne ke questions poocho.
Situation ko samajhne ke question mat poocho. Jitne bhi log abhi tum questions pooch rahe ho, tum situation ko samajhne ke question pooch rahe ho. Dog aur human ko samajhne ke questions poocho. Okay? Getting the point antar kya hai? Walk kab hoti hai? Yeh kya hota hai? Woh kya hai? Situation ke questions hai.
Kab bite kiya? Kidhar bite kiya? Woh kya hai? Situation ke questions hai. Dog ko samajhne ke questions nahi hai. Situation ko samajhne ke question pooch rahe ho. Woh baad ki stage hai. Sabse pehle dog and human ko samajhne ke sawaal poochte hain. Okay?
Agar tum pehle samajh chuke ho matlab tumhare paas woh grasp aa gaya hai toh tum us stage ko skip kar sakte ho. For example, agar human saamne hai tumhare toh tum usko dekhkar agar tumhare paas woh skill aa gayi hai- Right. ...tum usko dekhkar figure out kar sakte ho ki iski emotional baseline kya hai. Okay?
Haan tab tumhe sawaal poochne ki zaroorat nahi hai human ke.
Tumhe confirm karne ki zaroor zaroorat hai is cheez ko. Okay? Confirm karne ki like ki aap aisa hota hai kya aapke saath? Woh confirm karne ke questions hai. Okay? Agar aap completely one hai. So but ask questions related to human and dog.
Speaker 4
Okay, give me a minute, please.
Sunny
Yes, yes Kashish Sharma.
Kashish
Um, toh woh, um, jab guests ghar par aate hain usse pehle aapki energy, um, kaisi hoti hai? Aur jab agar aapne yeh snap kar lega is dar mein aap rehte ho ki arey kahin yeh kaat na jaaye.
Sunny
Dar toh lagta hai. Ab ek baar snap ho gaya toh.
Kashish
Um, toh kya aap, um, dar jaate ho ya apne aap ko calm down karne ki koshish rakhte ho?
Sunny
Matlab dar toh rehta hi hai toh aur woh dar toh uske kaatne ke baad aaya.
Lekin usne kaatna agar yahi wajah hai toh phir usne kaatna chaalu kyon kiya?
Kashish
Toh aapke saath koi aur family member bhi hai, um, ghar par?
Sunny
Haan family hai poori. Meri, meri wife aur mere, meri bachchi, meri ladki, daughter.
Kashish
Achha aur, um, aapki wife bhi koshish karti hai ki woh handle kar legi. Aap aisa baat karte ho suddenly ghar par jab log aate hain, aap aapas mein baat karne lag jaate ho, hugs karte ho ek doosre ko ya pehle aap settle down hote ho?
Sunny
Nahi, nahi matlab haan jaise jo normal rehta hai milna-milne ka woh toh rehta hi hai. Woh toh rehta hi hai but usse koi aisa mujhe lagta nahi ki usse influence hota hoga is cheez ko, isko. Yeh just guest ke aane par hi bhale main rahoon ya nahi rahoon ya koi rahe na rahe, iska attack common hai.
Kashish
Okay.
Sunny
Okay? Yes Tavisha ji.
Tavisha
Um, main poochna chaahoon, main ek toh dekhna chaahoongi ki dog kahan sota hai and doosra main yeh poochna chaahoongi ki, um, aapke ghar mein jo matlab, um, jhagde-vagare hote hain kya? Aur- Jhagde-vagare toh kiske ghar mein nahi hote? Toh uske saamne hi karte hain kya aap?
Sunny
Ab kya ghar kya apna koi Ambani thodi hain apan, aalishaan thodi hain apan. Toh ek hi room, ek-do hi room, do hi room hai. Poora building ko samajh mein aata hai jab hum jhagadte hain toh. Jaise hamein samajh mein aata hai hamara pados jhagad raha hai toh.
Toh haan jhagde toh hote hain and woh toh hota hai aur- Kitni der mein jhagde aur aap jo jhagda kar rahe hain woh thande ho jaate hain?
Ab jaise meri biwi toh jaldi thandi ho jaati hai. Main ho sakta hai main zindagi bhar khunnas khaake rahoon. Toh, toh, toh mere saath matlab mera toh gussa chalta hi chalta rehta hai. Toh yeh see, dekhiye again yahan par aap sahi us position par, sahi position par aaye ho yahan par.
Abhi aap yahan par do aapne questions poochhe. Ek toh dog kahan sota hai. Hai na? Toh dog kahan sota hai again woh situation hai. Matlab uska environment hai. Woh dog nahi hai. Lekin jo aapne human ke sawaal poochhe woh human ke baare mein jaanne ke sawaal poochhe.
Aur usse mujhe kya samajh mein aaya ki insaan gusse wala hai. Human kaun sa hai? Jo uska handler hai. Jis, jo baat kar raha hai, client baat kar raha hai woh gusse wala hai. Kyon? Usne kya bola? Bhai main toh khunnas khaake matlab maine apni bhasha mein bola usko dekh.
Toh kya aap, woh person saamne nahi hai na. Us person ko saamne dekhkar aap yeh sab cheezein figure out kar sakte ho aur usse sawaal bhi pooch sakte ho. Lekin sawaal hum kaise poochhenge ki aapko gussa zyada rehta hai kya? Aap zyada tense ho jaate ho kya? Aur woh tension lambe time tak rehti hai kya?
Ya aap usko jaldi release kar paate ho kya us tension ko? Hai na? Yeh hum insaan ke baare mein jaan rahe hain. Aap unko dekhoge toh ho sakta hai samajh jaoge ki yeh insaan tense rehta hai. Unke kandhe aise rehte hain. Matlab like tense humans ke kandhe thode tight rehte hain. Hai na? Aur shakal thodi tight rehti hai.
Is jagah par tightness, tightness rehti hai unke. Aankhon mein tightness dikhti hai. Aankhon ke yahan par blackness dikhta hai jo tense rehte hain. Okay, so yeh poora ka poora hissa tension dikhaata lekin ab woh aapke saamne hai nahi. Toh aapko yeh main explain kar raha hoon ki haan woh gusse wale insaan hai.
Okay, good question. Yeh dekho inhone kya question sawaal kya poocha?
Insaan ke baare mein not situation ke baare mein. Lekin inhone doosra question kya poocha tha situation ke baare mein. So abhi usse kya samajh mein aata hai ki mujhe clarity fifty-fifty hai right now. Yeh dog ke baare mein sawaal poochte hain dog ki condition ke baare mein. Okay, next sawaal poocho.
Tamisha ji good question. Iske baare mein aur socho and then phir come back. Yes, Reena ji.
Reena
Yahi mere ko toh yahi lag raha tha ki anger issues hain ki nahi. Woh unhone pehle hi woh kar liya address. Toh agar anger issues hain toh definitely dog un energies ko absorb bhi karta hai aur woh bhi calm down nahi hota hoga. Woh shaayad aroused bhi ho jaata ho us situation se.
Sunny
Yeah, matlab jaise anger issues, anger issues hain lekin uska matlab directly hum link nahi kar sakte dog ke usse. Woh human ko samajh mein nahi aayega. There is a no bridge.
Matlab hum sab milkar samajh sakte hain is baat ko. Kyunki humne itni padhai kar li, itni baat kar li. Lekin jo human is concept ke baare mein jaanta hi nahi hai he will not able to understand this thing. This thing, this insight is for us, not for the client.
Okay, this insight is for us, not for the, not for the client right now, right now. Okay.
Reena
Nahi par hum client ka woh ghar ke energies ka wahi sab cheezon ko karte-karte figure out karte hi why did the dog become like that or behaving like that? Woh sab ki wajah se I think- But yeah. Yeh temperamental of the family.
Sunny
No, but always is not this is the case ki ghar ki energy se hi dog is tareeqe se behave kar raha hai.
So hum directly is conclusion par nahi aa sakte. That is my point.
Reena
Okay.
Sunny
Ki dog, dog sirf isi hum directly conclusion par nahi aa sakte because right now no one has gathered information about the dog. Jitne bhi aap sab logon ne question poochhe hain kisi, achha main batata hoon abhi. Kisko pata hai dog ki body type kya hai? Kisi ne sawaal poochha? Dog ki body type kya hai?
Kisi ne nahi poochha. Okay.
Kashish
Yahi unhone yeh raise kiya hua tha ki I needed to ask ki three questions ki ek toh because I missed it ki woh Indy hai. How young is he and- teen saal ka Indy.
Sunny
Yeah, teen saal ka Indy.
Kashish
Teen saal ka Indy hai aur woh adopt kab hua tha?
Sunny
Bachpan mein chhote mein lekar aaye the usko. Do mahine ka tha ek mahine.
Kashish
Do mahine ka tha. Kya is dog ke kaan aise oopar aur stance aisi rehti hai chaudi?
Sunny
Kaan toh uske oopar, kaan toh uske oopar rehte hain. Matlab kaan aise oopar nahi rehte. Kaan uske aise hain ki like flappy type ke kaan hote hain na neeche doob ke.
Kashish
Aise mude, mude hue kaan hai.
Sunny
Body patli, body patli hai.
Kashish
Aur uska stance kaisa hai? Chauda hai? Chhati chaudi hai?
Sunny
Nahi patla, patla hai. Patla. Chhati thodi si chaudi hai lekin hai patla.
Kashish
Aur uska stance yaani woh chalta kaisa hai? Aise jaise chaude mein chalta hai ya dubak ke chalta hai?
Sunny
Nahi, normal chalta hai. Calmly chalta hai. Calmly chalta hai.
Kashish
Ekdam calmly chalta hai.
Sunny
Haan, aapka sawaal yeh hona chahiye jab woh, jab woh aggression ki taraf aata hai tab uska, uska body condition kya hota hai?
Kashish
Toh uska shift kaisa hota hai?
Sunny
Dekhiye, agar aap poochhoge shift kaisa hota hai toh ek client ko nahi samjhega.
Kashish
Nahi samjhega.
Sunny
Shift ka matlab kya hota hai?
Kashish
Okay.
Sunny
Hai na? So we have to be very clear.
Kashish
Correct.
Sunny
For example, toh is clarity se kya hua? Jab woh tense hota hai toh woh dheere-dheere kadam aage badhata hai ya phir uske hackles jo oopar ke baal hote hain woh khade ho jaate hain. Okay? So you have to be very clear about this ki, ki posture aisa hota hai kya? Woh seedha chalta hai kya?
Client ko yeh sab cheez samajh mein nahi aati hai. Okay? So utmost clarity, apan ko clarity usko ekdam clarity deni ki woh dheere-dheere move karna chaalu karta hai aur bahut uske, uske peechhe ke baal ekdam khade hone lag jaate hain. Is tareeqe se hum gather karte hain dog ke baare mein.
So these questions should be the first questions.
Hai na? 34 minutes ke baad yeh questions nahi aane chahiye. Hai na? 34 minutes ho chuke hain apan ko call mein aakar. So 34 minutes ke baad yeh sawaal nahi aate. These questions should be the first question, the first line of questions. Jismein hum kya gather karte hain? Dog ke baare mein gather karte hain.
Agar aapke paas knowledge nahi hai dog ki toh dog ki information gather karte hain, situation ki nahi. Humne time kahan waste kiya abhi yahan par? Situations par.
Reena
Pehle situations par phir dog par.
Sunny
Kya information mili hai? Zero.
Reena
Kaun se waale genes usmein active honge? Ki kaun si waali tendencies hongi? Are we trying to figure out that? Uski body shape hai.
Sunny
We, we dekho are we trying to figure that out? Which means what we are already concluded something. We are not trying to figure out anything.
We are just trying to gather information. That's it. Woh gather information kya hai? Dog kaisa hai? Dog kya hai? Aur human kaisa hai? Human kya hai? That's it. Uske baad we will start different things. But first yeh information aana zyada zaroori hai humare paas. Uske baad aap aage ki steps decide karoge.
Ki ab aage ki steps kya hai? First part kya hai humara? Dog ko samajhna. Uske baad human ko samajhna. Uske baad situations aati hain. Lekin for last 34 minutes we are just asking questions about kya? Situations. Dog kahan sota hai? Dog kitni walk karta hai? Dog kab walk karta hai? Yeh sab situations ke oopar hai.
Human aata hai toh kya hota hai? Yeh aata hai toh kya hota hai? No. Humara dog ka body language kya hai? Okay? Kyunki client kya bol raha hai? Bhai bahut aggressive ho jaata hai.
Yeh toh client ki bhasha hai. Why are you agreeing on this? Unko kya pata hai aggression kya hota hai? Toh yeh client ki bhasha hai. Humne client ki bhasha par nahi karna. Humein dog ki bhasha par karna hai ki dog ki body language kya hai aur human ki body language kya hai.
In, in do cheezon par questions start hone chahiye. Okay? So again start karo. Yes kiske again poochho sawaal. Okay iske oopar. Yes, Anshul. Teri aawaaz nahi mute hai bhai tu.
Anshul
Sorry. Sir ji, jaise aapne bataya ki jab bhi jab ghar par ladai jhagde hote hain toh us time par dog jo rehta hai us time par uski kya situation rehti hai? Kya woh dar jaata hai? Kya woh us time par ek kone mein jaakar baith jaata hai ya phir woh kisi aur ke peechhe chhupta hai?
Us time par kuchh aisa aapko kuchh pata ho.
Sunny
Andar ek kamra hai, uski balcony par jaakar baith jaata hai.
Anshul
Achha akele hi toh jaise agar.
Sunny
Humein time deta hai, humein distance deta hai ki hum apna nipta lein. Kahin woh pachhde mein na phans jaaye toh woh apna akele jaakar baith jaata hai.
Anshul
Toh us time par wahan woh dara hua hota hai ya woh kaise normal uska body posture us time par kaisa kya hota hai?
Sunny
Woh normal balcony se baahar baith ke dekhta hai.
Anshul
Okay, normally calmly baitha hua hota hai, dara hua nahi hota.
Sunny
So jaata hai.
Anshul
Okay. Uske baad jaise jab bhi aap sorry ab jaise aapka jhagda resolve ho gaya uske baad phir aap usko kuchh pamper karte ho ya phir kaisa? Phir woh normally calmly andar aa jaata hai aur phir situation normal ho jaati hai.
Sunny
Haan, matlab jab hamara jhagda khatam hota hai aur hum thoda cool down ho jaate hain toh wapas aa jaata hai and then jaise same pehle behave kar raha hota tha waise hi behave karta hai. Koi aise woh nahi hota.
Anshul
Okay usko koi aap aisa pampering wagairah nahi karte ho ya phir aisa kuch affection show nahi karte ho.
Sunny
Are kya gussa mere ko aaya, mujhe pampering chahiye. Main usko kaahe ko karunga? Ya meri wife ko pampering chahiye. Jis par chillaya main. So I think more about but not situations again mindset dekho kidhar hai not situation, not situation. Again questions poocho deeply jaane mein humans ke us par.
Phir apan situations jaayenge. Yes kaun hai? Tavisha ji.
Tavisha
Haan, aapne kabhi usko maara hai kya?
Sunny
Kabhi bhi nahi. Aur ho sakta hai client bole kabhi bhi nahi.
Lekin ho sakta hai maara ho. Toh yeh client bolta hai.
Tavisha
Baat karne se aur shakal dekhne se bhi samajh mein aa jaayega ki maara hoga ki nahi.
Sunny
Aap hi dekho, main aisa hoon.
Tavisha
Nahi, aapki shakal.
Sunny
Yeh client waisa hai.
Tavisha
Kar se, kar se ek baar.
Sunny
Nahi, kabhi nahi maara.
Speaker 7
Maara hai, maara hai.
Tavisha
Haan maara hai definitely. Pakka hi maara hai.
Sunny
Humein nahi pata.
Tavisha
Kitne judge hain hum log.
Sunny
Bahut judge. Shakal dekh ke insaan ki kundali. Badhiya. Ho sakta hai maara ho. Why ho sakta hai maara ho? Why ho sakta ho sakta hai maara ho? Kyunki tension mein insaan ka kaabu nahi rehta. Uska matlab yeh nahi hai ki insaan bura hai. Okay. Iska matlab yeh nahi hai. Uska tension par uska kaabu nahi hai.
Uska matlab yeh hai. Hum kabhi bhi good aur bad mein judge nahi karenge ki insaan ki paristhiti kharab ho sakti hai, uska dimaag kharab ho sakta hai, uska emotions kharab ho sakta hai, uski life mein problem chal rahi hogi aur kai baar uske haath se baat chhoot jaati hogi.
Toh ho sakta hai.
Tavisha
Aur biwi ko toh maar nahi sakta.
Sunny
Iske baare mein bhi hum nahi bol sakte kuch. Matlab.
Tavisha
Matlab frustration matlab mera aise experience hai jo ki log apna frustration hai na kabhi-kabhi matlab fight se toh nikaalte hain but physically bhi woh kahin na kahin nikaalna chahte hain toh phir.
Sunny
Biwi safe hai matlab biwi maar khaane ke liye safe hai. Dog phir bhi woh revert kar sakta hai. Matlab it's like koi bura mat samajhna mere ko main kya bol raha hoon. Main jaise aapko bata raha hoon dog ko maaroge toh dog revert back kar sakta hai and most of the case mein biwi nahi karegi.
So frustration nikaalna wahaan safe rehta hai. Not dog. Aapki safe waali perspective ki baat bata raha hoon main. Dog ke upar nahi. It is a bad thing. It is a very bad thing.
Like kisi human ko ghar par lekar aaye ho. Matlab ghar par lekar aane ka matlab hai biwi ko ghar par lekar aaye ho aur woh helpless hai and physically aapse bahut zyada kamzor hai ek male se aur ek male uske upar haath uthata hai jo physically usse kamzor hai that is a bad thing.
Woh bhale hi wife ho ya phir dog ho but frustration release ke perspective se dog se zyada human pitega. Dog se zyada human pitega. That is the woh thing. Agar human revert back karega toh phir dog pit sakta hai. Lekin first preference is human. Woh pitega. Toh yeah toh iske baare mein aur socho.
Situation ke baare mein nahi. Again socho dog ke baare mein aur human ke baare mein. Human ke baare mein kya samajh mein aaya? Human tensed hai, gusse mein aata hai aur haath chhod sakta hai dog ke upar.
Lekin dog usse bahut zyada kareeb hai aur uski bahut zyada sunta hai toh hum isko nullify kar sakte hain ki aisa nahi hai. Aisa nahi hoga. Uske paas rehta hai, uske paas hi jaata hai. Toh hum kya isse next sawaal kya poochenge? Agar humein theek se ki dog aapke paas jaata hai kya? Aapke paas aata hai kya?
Aur aap usko, aapse kaisa bond hai dog ka? Then hum is cheez ko verify kar sakte hain ki achha kaisa, kaisa ho sakta hai. Tab bhi hum 100% sure nahi honge. Hum soch sakte hain ki achha yaar connection toh lag raha hai toh hum is cheez ko side mein karte hain ki maarne se koi dikkat hai. Okay. You okay? Yes, Paresh ji.
Speaker 7
So I will ask ki client ji aap please bataiye ki walk kaise start hoti hai? Walk par kya-kya cheezein aapne notice kari hain?
Sunny
Mujhe lagta hai Paresh ji na aap thoda late aaye ho call ke andar.
Speaker 7
Ya aap. Sorry.
Sunny
Haan, walk calmly start hoti hai. Walk calmly start hoti hai. Usmein koi dikkat nahi hai. Walk ke baad bhi koi dikkat nahi hai. Hum bahut calmly walk karte hain jab tak koi doosra dog saamne nahi aa jaata. Ya phir ghar mein koi guest ya dog. Otherwise dog kaafi shaanti se rehta hai.
Speaker 7
Okay, toh doosra dog aate hi kya-kya changes aapne notice ki hain?
Sunny
Doosra dog aate hi toh uski taraf ekdum dekhne lag jaata hai aur uski taraf move hone lag jaata hai.
Speaker 7
Dheere-dheere.
Sunny
Haan, uski taraf move hone lag jaata hai. Phir main usko rokta hoon toh badhta jaata hai.
Speaker 7
Aage badhta jaata hai.
Sunny
Matlab woh uska aggression badhta jaata hai. Jaise hi main rokne lagta hoon toh.
Speaker 7
Okay aur aap kaun sa leash ya kya use kar rahe ho jab aap kaise rok rahe ho?
Sunny
Slip leash use karte hain.
Speaker 7
Okay, kya woh ekdum top par rehti hai?
Sunny
Neeche aa jaati hai kabhi-kabhi.
Speaker 7
Okay, then woh bark kar raha hai and ab aap usko control kaise karte ho? Us par gussa karke.
Sunny
Haan matlab usko kheenchte hain aur us par chillaate hain, "Ruk ja bhai, mat kar." Lekin woh sunta nahi hai.
Speaker 7
Okay and then dog ko kitna time lagta hai to redirect wahaan se us situation se baahar aane mein?
Sunny
Woh itna tez chillaata hai ki aas-paas ke sab log baahar aa jaate hain aur tab tak chillaata rehta hai jab tak woh dog uske aankhon ke saamne se chala nahi jaata.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
Okay, socho iske baare mein. Again wapas se, wapas se question taiyaar karo.
Yes, Reena ji.
Reena
Mujhe toh matlab yeh poochna hai ki uske koi gender preference hai? Is he calmer towards females or males? Kuch hai gender preference?
Sunny
Woh do dog, woh door se dekhta hai dog ko aur unke upar chaalu karta hai. Actually mein yahaan par right questions kya, right question kya hona chahiye?
Reena
Even in terms of guests, not just a dog.
Sunny
Nahi, woh toh koi bhi guest hai. Usne female ko bhi bite kiya hua hai aur male ko bhi bite kiya hua hai. Dono ko bite kiya hua hai.
Reena
Okay aur is he rested enough? Matlab jaise dog ko 14 to 16 hours sona chahiye.
Sunny
Haan sota hai.
Reena
Does he always really gets good rest?
Sunny
Yeah, agar koi bhi ghar par nahi aa raha toh woh sota hi rahega. Bahut disciplined hai. Koi ghar par nahi aa raha, koi woh nahi ho raha toh.
Reena
And sound sensitivity aur yeh sab kuch hai?
Sunny
Nahi. Maine poore, poore, poore, poore mein clue diya hai aap logon ko. Hai na? Ek clue diya hai aapko aur but main clue bol nahi sakta na. Woh toh phir clue kis baat ka? Lekin ek clue diya hai maine.
Reena
Anger issues wala person ka.
Sunny
Yes, anger issues ka ek perspective hai. Lekin dekho, woh cheez ab sabko samajh mein aa gayi ki anger ka issue hai. Lekin usko link kaise karna hai usko samajh mein nahi aa raha. Hai na? Us cheez ko link kaise karna hai.
Aur doosri cheez jo mujhe aap logon se baat karke bhi samajh mein aa rahi hai ki questions ki quality. Okay, questions ki quality jaise for example, ab woh doosre dog par attack karta hai toh isse hamara kya sawaal aana chahiye? Woh sab dog par attack karta hai ya kisi-kisi dog par?
Speaker 7
Males, males par ya females par.
Sunny
Not males or females par. Sabse pehle kya hai kisi-kisi.
Phir bolega nahi, kisi-kisi dog par karta hai. Phir hamara kya hoga? Woh jo koi-koi dog hai woh male hote hain ya female hote hain? Samajh gaya. Lekin hamara jaise main bolun ki bhai woh attack karta hai toh hamara sawaal kya hona chahiye is cheez ke upar?
Woh kya sab dog par attack karta hai, kisi-kisi dog par attack karta hai? Kisi-kisi dog par attack karta hai woh. Toh answer kya aayega? Woh kisi-kisi dog par attack karta hai. Toh jaise humein samajh mein aa gaya, arey! Yaani woh sab dog par attack nahi karta, kisi-kisi dog par attack karta hai. Which means kya?
Abhi humein conclude karne ki zaroorat nahi hai. Koi conclude mat. This is a data. Data kis cheez ka? Something here. Woh sab par kyon nahi attack kar raha? Woh sirf kisi-kisi par attack kyon kar raha hai?
For example, agar hum koi case lete hain aur us case mein aata hai ki bhai yeh doosre guest par attack karta hai toh hamara sawaal kya hoga? Jab aap hote ho toh attack karta hai ya phir aap nahi hote toh bhi attack karta hai?
Getting a point? Hum kaise figure out, ki situation wise kaise, situations ke andar kaise ghusenge? Ki jab aap hote ho toh, agar बोलेगा nahi, jab main hota hoon toh hi attack karte ho. Toh isse kya matlab samajh mein aa sakta hai? Yaar yeh kahin- The dog might be protecting. Haan, koi claiming behavior toh nahi hai.
Koi discipline ka, discipline ka issue toh nahi hai. Sirf, lekin sirf protecting nahi, Reena ji. Ya phir us human ki energy ka toh dikkat nahi hai. Sirf hum directly conclusion par nahi aayenge phir us jagah par. Hai na? Ki woh claiming kar raha hai, woh yeh sab cheez. No, no, no, no, no.
Hum human ki energy ki taraf jaayenge ki us human ki oorja kya hai us jagah par? Figure out karne ki koshish karenge yahan par unse sawaal poochhne ke liye. Isliye sawaal bahut zyada zaroori hai. Sawaal ko continue rakhte hain aur, aur mujhse sawaal, sawaal poochho because isse hoga kya?
Aapka mind ka thoda pattern change hoga figure out karne ka. Right now abhi bhi kya hamari aadat hai conclude karne ki everything. We want to find solution as soon as possible. Woh mere khayaal se sirf dog ke saath nahi hai. Woh zindagi mein sab taraf hi hai.
You will try to find solution as soon as possible without gathering enough data aur usse maximum type mein aapko jo solution milega woh achha ho sakta hai ki achha milne ki possibility ho. Lekin us level par aap nahi jaaoge because you concluded before, before gathering the, gathering enough information. Okay?
So aur human ka yeh pattern hota hai. Before gathering information agar hum, agar hum conclude kar rahe hain toh hum sirf dog ke saath nahi kar rahe hain kaam. Okay? Which means aap is cheez ko pattern ko change karoge, aapke life ka different, different part bhi change ho jaayega.
Not just this part. You will start gathering. Agar aapko koi solution chahiye hoga kisi cheez ka for example, kisi ko koi product banana hai. For example, kisi ko entrepreneurship karni hai. For example, kisi ko apne company mein kuchh, kuchh kaam karna hai. You will not conclude that thing.
You will start gathering information. Correct or not? Bhala is cheez se tum pattern seekhoge toh. Once you start gathering information, the solution will change. Solution change ho jaayega. Hai na ki iska kya, isko kaise solve kar sakte hain? Woh way change ho jaayegi.
So start asking questions, questions about individual entities and start asking questions about the relationship of the entities. Getting what main kya bol raha hoon? Entities kya hai yahan par? Dog ek entity hai, human ek entity hai, human ki family ek entity hai. Ab yeh dog human se kaise connected hai?
Woh relationship ka node hai.
Yahan engineer aa raha hai saamne. Okay? The entity is connected with this entity through a relationship. So humein kya situation, and this whole thing is under a situation. So hum sabse pehle idhar jo entities hai unki information gather karte hain. Phir jo unko connect kar raha hai uski information gather karte hain.
Phir yeh jo poora ka poora universe hai unka, phir uski information gather karte hain. Then hamare paas ek data hota hai. We give solution uske, uske according. Okay, but right now everyone aap sab, sab cheezein kya kar rahe ho? Aap baahar jaa rahe ho andar se pehle. Aap baahar ki information gather kar rahe ho.
Universe ki information gather kar rahe ho jismein woh entities rehti hain. No, first entity ki information gather karo. Ulta kaam kar rahe ho. Ulta kaam, samajh mein aaya maine kya bola?
Ulta kaam kaise, ulta kaam. Haan ulta kaam.
Kashish
Sirf dog, dog ke baare mein inside the household pehle poochhna hai na, right?
Sunny
Dog nahi inside the house again ek universe aa gaya. Not inside the house.
Kashish
Dog as an entity.
Speaker 7
Individual, yeah.
Sunny
Individual, dog as an individual. Phir human as an individual. Phir their connection. Okay, phir their connection with the outer world. Woh kya hai? That's how we, how we figure it out. Aur yeh cheez aap kisi bhi cheez mein figure out kar sakte ho.
Koi beemaari ho, kaise bhi ho this is like yeh concept hai like cheezein solve karne ka. Okay, first hum entities ko solve, solve karte hain. Unke baare mein gather, information gather karte hain.
Unke connection ke baare mein information gather karte hain and then un, woh kis circumstances mein, kis universe mein woh bhi ek badi entity hoti hai.
Phir hum uske baare mein information gather kar sakte hain, gather karte hain.
Speaker 7
Toh it's like questions humein aise poochhne hain jisse humein individual ke baare mein pata chale. Yahan par dog aur jo uska owner hai.
Sunny
Yes, woh, woh cheezein open hain unki. Hamare saamne abhi woh black, black box hai.
Speaker 7
Right.
Sunny
Dog black box hai, human black box hai. Unka relation right now 50 minutes ho gaye hain aur aap unke liye abhi dog black box hai. Thoda bahut khula hai. Human black box hai aur human ka aur uska connection black box hai. Aur abhi hum kahan, kahan, kahan ghoom rahe hain? Bhai walk is, is kidhar hoti hai?
Kis dog ko kya hai? Kya kara hai? Specific dog. Dog ke baare mein aapko sab kuchh pata ho jaana chahiye. Uska pet kitna andar hai, uski chhaati kitni baahar, kitni baahar hai, uski aankhein kaisi hain, uski shakl kaisi hai, woh pointed hai kya?
All this thing matters.
Speaker 7
Hmm.
Sunny
Okay, aapki emotional strength kya hai? Aap jaldi frustrate hote ho kya? Jaldi tensed hote ho kya? Wo tension ko aap kaise release karte ho? You know, these all are data we need to gather. Ghar mein aur kya-kya hai, usse unka kya relationship hai? Dog kisse connected hai kisi ne mujhse nahi poocha abhi tak.
But that is the missing piece of this puzzle.
Kashish
Nahi, ek is TK ne poocha.
Sunny
Kisne poocha?
Kashish
Tavisha ne poocha.
Sunny
Kya sawal tha zara batayenge aap?
Kashish
Ki uh kya wo kisi aur se uh aapke alawa kisi aur se connected hai? Maine bhi poocha.
Sunny
Okay.
Kashish
Haan, maine bhi poocha.
Sunny
Sab se connected hai. Bas isse kya mil raha hai aapko? Connected ka matlab kya hota hai? Connected ka matlab kya hota hai?
Sab se, sab ke paas jaata hai. Ghar mein se ghar mein meri daughter ke paas jaata hai, meri wife ke paas jaata hai.
Kashish
But sabse zyada uske paas jaata hai.
Sunny
Sabse zyada kisse bonded hai?
Kashish
Yeah, sabse zyada wo bonded us humans. So can I ask, ask like quickly four-five questions can I ask again?
Sunny
Yeah, yeah.
Kashish
Toh aapne bataya ki aapka dogs attack karta hai. Baahar bhi attack karta hai, sab pe attack karta hai. Toh main ghar se shuru karti hoon jaise maine pehle kiya tha. Toh kya hota hai? Attack karta hai, aap gate open karte ho, kya hota hai?
Sunny
Wo bhaag ke aata hai, pehle growl karta hai aur bhaag ke aata hai unki taraf.
Kashish
Aur uske baad aap kya karte ho?
Sunny
Main usko ro, usko rokta hoon. Ae, ae, ae aur usko door karta hoon ki door jaa.
Kashish
Toh jab wo attack kar raha hai, uska body posture kaisa hai? Aap uske shareer ke baare mein bata sakte ho? Kaisa dikhta hai, poonchh kaisi hai uski, aankhein kaisi hai uski, uske uh shareer ke baal kaise hain aur uh wo kis stance mein khada hai?
Sunny
Wo matlab ekdum bhaag kar aata hai toh ekdum itna pata nahi chalta. Lekin wo bahut tez-tez gurra ke aata hai. Is tareeke se gurra ke aata hai. Ab wo client wo-wo nahi karega, hai na. Lekin main bata raha hoon.
Hai na, wo is tareeke se gurra ke aata hai aur uski poonchh ekdum, ekdum seedhi rehti hai aur wo, wo client ye bhi nahi batayega. Humein poochna padta hai. Lekin main saara ye cheezein, hai na uski poonchh seedhi aisi, aisi rehti hai aur jo uske hackles hain, clients ko hackles nahi pata hota.
Kashish
Nahi pata. Toh peeth ke baal kaise rehte hain uske?
Sunny
Kandhe ke, kandhe ke gardan ke baal, hai na gardan ke baal. spine, hum kya bolenge spine? Uski poori spine ke jo oopar, oopar baal rehte hain, wo aapko alag khade hue dikh, dikhaayi dene lag jaate hain kya? Is tareeke se hum unse poochenge. Otherwise aapke paas data nahi aayega.
Kyunki aapki bhasha ko client samjhega hi nahi.
Kashish
Samjhega nahi.
Sunny
Aap kya bol rahe ho? Aap bol rahe ho connect.
Connect ka matlab kya hota hai? Uska matlab kya tha? Kisse zyada bonded hai? Kiske saath zyada rehta hai? Kisse zyada, kiski zyada sunta hai? Okay, wo jab aap, aap, aap mujhe uski body posture ke baad bata paaoge. Client ko kuch idea nahi hai tum kya pooch rahe ho. Body posture kya hota hai usko idea nahi hai.
Hum kya poochenge? Uski poonchh seedhi rehti hai, oopar rehti hai, neeche jaati hai ya phir kadak ho jaati hai ya phir ghoomti rehti hai. We will ask these, these questions. Aur jab wo bhaag kar aata hai, wo ruk jaata hai, aapki sun leta hai ya aapki bhi nahi sunta. Okay?
Aur jab wo bhaag kar aata hai toh uske baal kaise hote hain? Wo kitni der mein shaant hota hai? Aap karte kya ho phir uske, us time par?
Kashish
Yes, my next question is ki ismein aap kaise rok, kya karte ho? Agar wo aise gurraata hai toh aap kya karte ho?
Sunny
Main hota hoon toh main usko rok leta hoon, control kar leta hoon.
Lekin jis din main nahi hua toh wahan dikkat aa jaati hai.
Kashish
Aur uh aap kaise rokte ho? Rokne ka tareeka kya hai?
Sunny
Main usko rokta hoon aur usko balcony mein peechhe bhejta hoon aur wahan usko bolta hoon wahan jaa aur wahan band kar deta hoon.
Kashish
Matlab aap use aaram se bolte ho ki peechhe ho jaa ya aap usko sharp tone mein bolte ho ki peechhe hat.
Sunny
Ekdum toh tez bolna hota hai warna wo sunega hi nahi.
Kashish
Uh theek.
Sunny
Jab wo bhaag kar aa raha hota hai. Phir usko ae ruk jaa aise, aise rokte aur phir usko chal peechhe jaa, peechhe jaa, peechhe jaa. Phir usko peechhe, wo gurraate hue peechhe jaata hai.
Kashish
Aur uh jab wo gurraate hue peechhe jaata hai. Aap uh kahan jaata hai? Peechhe jaake baith jaata hai. Wo ye sab hote hue dekh raha hota hai andar logon ko aate hue.
Sunny
Haan, balcony mein jaake baith jaata hai aur phir wahan se dekh raha hota hai.
Kashish
Aur kya ye uh aap, aap jaake balcony mein jab wo pahunchta hai us, us balcony ka gate band kar dete ho har baar?
Sunny
Haan, band kar dete hain.
Kashish
Aur uh ye gate har baar aap hi kholte ho?
Sunny
Haan, gate jab guest chale jaate hain toh main khol deta hoon.
Kashish
Aapke ghar mein aur log hain, wife hai, bachhe hain. Jaise aapne bataya toh kabhi wife agar gate kholti hai toh wo kaise karti hai?
Sunny
Wo bhi khol deti hai gate. Matlab gate matlab balcony ka gate ya baahar ka gate?
Kashish
Baahar ka gate, baahar ka gate, main door.
Sunny
Toh wo pehle band karti hai usko aur uske baad kholti hai.
Kashish
Wo pehle band karti hai aur tab us dog ka reaction kaisa rehta hai? Kya wo tab bhi bhaunkta hai agar wo use band karne ke liye le jaa rahe hain?
Sunny
Nahi, tab nahi bhaunkta.
Kashish
Aur agar wo balcony se ye sab kisi ko andar aate hue dekh raha hai tab uski uh-kya wo tab wahan se bhaunkna shuru karta hai?
Sunny
Kabhi-kabhi wo gurra raha hota hai wahan se kaanch par aise maar raha hota hai, lekin kabhi-kabhi hota hai.
Hamesha toh nahi hota lekin hota zaroor hai.
Speaker 7
Kabhi balcony mein susu kiya guest ke baad jab humne band kiya balcony mein.
Sunny
Nahi, aise zaroori toh nahi hai, lekin kabhi usko susu aa raha hai toh wo balcony mein toh susu karta hi hai. Kabhi aata- But aisa aata hota hai toh karta hai.
Speaker 7
Okay. On similar lines wo walk wala jab aapne kabhi notice kiya chhote dogs par aggressive ho raha hai ya bade par bhi ho raha hai size mein?
Sunny
Size ka toh nahi hai size lekin wo kisi-kisi dog ke oopar aggressive zyada hota hai. Kisi-kisi par- Last, very good.
Speaker 7
Last mein jab aap usko ghar lekar aa rahe hote ho walk ke baad dog aage chal raha hai ki peechhe chal raha hai?
Sunny
Dog saath mein hi chalta rehta hai aur complete baat sunta hai wo, saath mein hi chalta rehta hai.
Speaker 7
Okay, and one more. Go ahead, go ahead.
Kashish
Toh client ji aap beech mein bol rahe the ki do hi aise dog hai. Sorry humne aapko kaat-kaat diya tha. Do dog kuch aise hain jinko wo zyada karta hai kam? Wahan aapko sun nahi paaye the.
Sunny
Nahi, do dog nahi. Kuch dogs aise hain jinke taraf wo zyada, kuch zyada aggression, zyada aggression dikhaata hai aur kisi ki taraf bilkul aggression nahi dikhaata hai.
Kashish
Aur kabhi aapne jaanu- Aggression. Yeah.
Speaker 7
Yeah.
Kashish
Go ahead Pradish, please sorry. I am sorry.
Speaker 7
Aggression de karne ke baad right kuch dog par jaise aap bata rahe ho uske baad wo pee karta hai kahin par?
Sunny
Arrey sawal galat hai. Jaise maine bola na tum-tumhein ki wo kuch dog ki taraf karta hai, kuch dog ki taraf. Next sawal hona- Kaun se dogs?
Speaker 7
Kaun se?
Sunny
Ek kadam aage badha do. Wo dog, wo kaun se dogs hain? Toh hum kya sawaal poochenge, kis dog ki taraf wo zyada aapko karta hai? So kis dog ki taraf karta hai? Jo dog thode se like aage rehte hain, tez chalkar aa rahe hote hain aur thode high, thode high par rehte hain. Thode kai-kai baar wo, ye client nahi bolega.
Humein nikaalna hota hai. Hum kya poochenge? Achha kisi-kisi dog ki taraf hota hai toh wo dog kya thode excited hote hain? Ya phir bolega haan, kabhi excitement wale ki taraf bhi karta hai aur kabhi phir hum bolenge ki wo aise dog ki taraf karta hai jo thode bade dikhte ho, ekdam chaud karke chal rahe hote hain.
Rottweiler hai, German Shepherd hai, unki taraf karta hai. Toh haan, unki taraf bhi karta hai. Toh kabhi chhote dog ki taraf bhi karta hai. Toh haan, ek, do, teen chhote dog hai, unki taraf bhi karta hai. Toh jo chhote dogs hai wo kaise chalte hain?
Wo bhi ekdam tez aage, haan, wo kheench rahe hote hain pub, unko peeche, peeche walon ko aur inki taraf aa rahe hote hain.
Okay? Toh that's ye sab client nahi batayega. Ye humko nikaalna hota hai. Humko nikaalna hota hai. Humein unko poochna hota hai achha ye aisa hai, achha ye aisa hai, achha ye aisa hai, achha ye aisa hai.
Lekin jahan bhi humko ek cheez dikhti hai ki bhai kuch gadbad hai, humein wahan par aur khoondna hota hai, aur andar jaana hota hai, aur deeply jaana hota hai. Toh yahan par apan deeply nahi gaye. Apan ne isko miss kar diya.
Aapko clue mila ki wo dog ki taraf alag kuch dog ki taraf karta hai toh humein yahan par thamna tha. Humein yahan par susu ki taraf nahi jaana tha.
Speaker 7
Understood.
Sunny
So susu ki taraf kya gaya ki main bol hi raha hoon abhi right now main bol raha hoon ki dog kisi-kisi dog ki taraf karta hoon. Lekin aapke mind mein next cheez pehle hi aa gayi.
Speaker 7
Aa gayi, right.
Sunny
Yeah, so that is a, that is a mistake. So you are running ahead.
So jo train yahan par hai, apan aage bhaagte rahenge. Wo train peeche aa rahi hai, baith jaana. Are nahi, nahi, main toh bhaagunga. Toh wo solution ki train pakad nahi paayenge us cheez ke upar. Okay?
Speaker 7
And client ji feeding, feeding kaise hota hai? Kabhi kya aapne ye dekha hai ki jaise wo growl karte huye guest par aa raha hai aur aap khaana khila rahe ho, uske aas-paas koi aaya, aap aaye ya uski aapki wife aayi toh tab kya nature hota hai dog ka? Aap us par thoda light daalenge please.
Sunny
Haan, toh feeding ke time par toh generally hum door hi rehte hain usse ki bhai feeding ke time, lekin jaise iske trainer ne aur wahi bola ki feeding uska alag apne par hona chahiye. Jab dog khaana khaa raha ho toh uske paas nahi jaana chahiye.
Toh hum usko balcony mein hi khaana khilaate hain ya phir kone mein hum khaana khilaate hain aur wo khaana khaata hai aur uske baad hum wahan se hat jaate hain aur jab wo khaana khaa leta hai toh.
Lekin kabhi koi food aggression humne kabhi dekha nahi uske andar.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
Okay. Abhi jaise sab haan mundi hila rahe the. Hai na ki bhai aur maine aakhir mein bol diya ki food aggression dekha nahi. Abhi kya hua? Mundi hilaane ka kyon sabka? conclusion par pahunch chuke the. Hai na?
conclusion par pahunch chuke the ki haan bhai food ka territorial ye hai aur aakhir mein jab maine bol diya ki food ka toh koi aggression dekha nahi. Phir kya hua us conclusion ka? break ho gaya.
Kashish
Balcony mein khaata hai.
Speaker 7
Kabhi bhi umm Balcony mein.
Sunny
Nahi, balcony mein bhi khaata hai, andar bhi khaata hai. Ye bhi bola maine kone mein bhi khaata hai. Again kyonki tumhare conclusion par pahunchte huye dekh raha tha main ki wo balcony mein bhi khaata hai. Hum usko kabhi bhi, hum usko khila sakte hain. Toh khaane ka toh do-teen jagah bani hui hai.
Okay? Toh kabhi main, kabhi guest aa rahe hote hain, guest hote hain toh hum usko balcony mein de dete hain aur guest kabhi nahi aa rahe hote hain toh hum usko andar bhi feed kar dete hain. Lekin kone mein jagah bani hui hai uski.
Kashish
Guest jab tak rehte hain tab tak wo bhaunkta rehta hai.
Sunny
Nahi bhaunkta nahi hai, baith jaata hai. Bhaunkta nahi hai, baith jaata hai.
Kashish
Thodi der baad relax ho jaata hai.
Sunny
Relax ho jaata hai. Turant hi relax ho jaata hai. balcony mein jaata hai aur wahan shaanti se baith jaata hai.
Kashish
Achha matlab unka, unka guest ka welcome is kind of aggressive and wo haan. Attacking mode and uske baad mein jab baaki sab shaant karaate hain, uske baad apne aap shaant ho jaata hai ya apne aap hi shaant ho jaata hai bhaunk-bhaunk ke?
Sunny
Apne aap hi shaant ho jaata hai aur jaise door jaata hai toh. Andar hi band kar aate hain toh shaanti se so jaata hai, baith jaata hai.
Speaker 8
Okay. Aur dogs jo hai baahar wo pet dogs ya off leash dogs wagairah mein koi difference hai jinke upar attack hota hai.
Sunny
Haan, jaise pet dogs hain toh wo thode thode forward wale dogs hote hain. Ye humein nikaalna hota hai. Wo nahi bolenge ki wo bolenge, "Andar, andar." Unko samajh nahi aayega andar ka matlab kya hai. Andar ka matlab kya hai dog ke.
Toh apan hum kya bolenge ki wo aise dogs ki taraf hi attack karta hai jo thode forward ja rahe hote hain ya jo thode chaati chauda karke aage ja rahe hote hain ya phir kuch uski taraf aa rahe hote hain. Toh humein unko clues dene hote hain clients ko. Toh hum clue denge ki wo aise karta hai.
Haan, wo aisi dogs ki taraf hi karta hai jo thode forward wale hote hain. Thode excitement mein aa rahe hain. Chaati chauda karke aa rahe hain. Bhale hi wo chhote hon, bade hon. Badon ki taraf zyada karta hai. Yeh uska-uska aur stress ka bhi aisa hi hai.
Stress bhi agar uski taraf aa rahe hote hain aur thoda chaud mein aa rahe hote hain toh wo unki taraf karta hai.
Agar-agar friendly tareeqe se aa rahe hote hain, poonchh hilaakar aa rahe hote hain, uske saamne surrender karte hain toh nahi karta. Yeh-yeh bhi humein nikaalna hota hai. Client nahi batata but I am giving you more clues. Okay.
Speaker 8
Toh wo jo surrender kar dete hain unke upar attack nahi karta.
Sunny
Nahi.
Speaker 8
Toh basically dominating dogs ki taraf zyada wo karta hoga na phir.
Sunny
Toh humara sawaal yahan par kya hona chahiye? Jab wo dominating dog aapki taraf aa raha hota hai, aapke dog ki taraf aa raha hota hai toh aap kaisa mehsoos karte hain? Okay, aap kaisa mehsoos karte hain?
Speaker 8
Toh dekh ke agar pehle se hi tum stiff ho jaao ya wo ho jaao ki oho abhi attack karega ya kuch karega.
Sunny
Haan humara-humara pehle anxiety wali so they get passed on. Lekin client ko yeh sab nahi hai. Lekin haan, dekho suno humara pehla-pehla clue kya tha?
Human tensed hai. Okay, human tensed hai. Doosra clue kya hai? Dog bhi tensed hai. Okay. Jab ek surrender karne wala aata hai toh human tensed hai kya? Nahi. Lekin agar ek chaud wala aa raha hai toh human tensed hai kya? Haan. Okay, human-human, human tensed hai. Toh tension is the first clue yahan par.
Yahan issue kya hai? Issue aggression nahi hai. Tension issue hai. Tension. Jab ghar mein, jab ghar mein log aa rahe, log-log aa rahe hain toh dog kya project kar raha hai? Tension.
Speaker 7
Tension.
Sunny
Aapne kya-kya cheezein, kya-kya tension kaise pata chalega humko? Dog kaise tension project karta hai? Stiff body se, hackles-hackles se. Okay, is tareeqe se wo tension project karta hai.
Jab wo door jaata hai guest se-guest se ya phir us human se, jo human wahan par hai, jo guest ko receive kar raha hai toh-toh wo kya-kya mehsoos karta hai dog?
shanti mehsus karta hai. Yeh-yeh-yeh-yeh dog ke andar kya problem hai? Aggression problem hai ya phir tension problem hai? Tension. Okay. Leash par agar hum isko handle karenge, usme tension denge toh dog calm down hoga ya phir aur tension mein aayega?
Speaker 8
Tension.
Sunny
Aur tension mein aayega. Jab woh aur tension mein aayega toh kaisa react karega? Aur aggressive react karega. Lekin yahan par tension ka source kaun hai?
Speaker 8
Human. Male human.
Speaker 7
Human.
Sunny
Male human. Toh hamari strategy kahan se start hogi? Male human se, not from dog se. Toh main aap sabke saamne thode unique cases lekar aa raha hoon. Lekin yeh saare cases aise nahi honge. Kisi-kisi cases mein dog ke andar hi tension hogi.
Okay, kisi-kisi cases mein dog ke andar hi issue hoga. Lekin woh issue rituals of dog se solve hoga. Agar woh dog ka issue hai toh. Lekin agar woh dog ka issue nahi hai toh woh human se solve hoga. Okay, so yahan par issue kya hai? Human ka tension. Kisi ko, kisi ko samajh mein aa raha hai hum is par kaise aaye?
Humans ke, humans ke upar sawaal poochhne hain humko. Unki shakal dekhoge tumhe samjhega. Tumhare paas abhi unki shakal nahi hai toh ek tum tumhare paas le. Lekin tum sawaalon se poochh sakte ho. Okay. So jab tum sawaal poochhoge toh tumhe samajh mein aa jaayega ki woh human apne dog se bahut pyaar karta hai.
Sabse pehle hume figure out karna hota hai kitna pyaar hai. Agar hume call kar raha hai aur woh compassionate wala call hai ki hum kuchh bhi karne ke liye hume yeh karna hai, yeh karna hai, dog kaatta hai toh hum kya poochh sakte hain?
Kya isko aapko kabhi dimaag mein aaya ki aap isko abandon kar do ya phir isko kahin aur par de do ya phir adopt kara do.
hai na? Is tareeke ke hum sawaal poochh sakte hain. Usse kya samajh mein aata hai? Human aur iska bond kaisa hai. Jiska bond achha nahi hai woh kya sochega? Yaar, yeh rehome ho sakta hai kya? Jiska bond, lekin jiska bond achha nahi hai woh kya karega? Woh rote hue bolega yeh baat.
Rehome, agar rehome ka bola hai, bolega bhi. Toh isse kya samajh mein aata hai? Dono ka bond achha hai. Pehle entities humne figure out kar li. Dog kya hai? Tensed. Human kya hai? Tensed. Clear? Yahan par entities ka emotional baseline kya hai? Tension, tension. Dono ka relationship kya hai?
Woh kaise figure out karenge? Sawaal poochh ke. Yeh jab bite karta hai toh aapko kabhi aisa lagta hai ki aap isko rehome kar do. Yeh mera sawaal tha unse. Okay. Yeh kyon-kyon poochha maine? Kyon figure out karne ke liye poochha? Un dono ka relationship kya hai?
Main unko rehome karne mein help nahi karoonga ya unko samjhane mein help nahi karoonga ki nahi-nahi aapko yeh nahi karna chahiye.
nahi-nahi aapko theek hai, main bhejta hoon. Mera maqsad kya tha? Relationship figure out karne ka. First, yeh relation, yeh figure out ho gaya. Dono tension hai. Ab unka relationship kitna strong hai.
Agar relationship bahut zyaada, yes, zyaada, agar unka relationship bahut zyaada strong hai toh us human ki oorja utni hi zyaada effective hai. Getting my point? Isliye hume relationship figure out karna zaroori hota hai. Samajh mein aaya kyon?
Speaker 8
Sir, when you ask them follow up karne ke liye iske baad mein ki aap ise rehome karna chahoge. Unka answer kya tha?
Sunny
Arre nahi-nahi, kabhi bhi nahi socha. Kabhi dimaag mein aaya hi nahi. I love him. Woh bas guest ke saamne aur ismein aata hai. It's like he is the best dog.
He is the best dog. Toh that's is tareeke se hum figure out, dekho ab kitna simple ho gaya. Aap sabse pehle entities ka data gather karoge. Entities ismein kya thi? Uski family, dog ki family aur dog khud. Humne unki emotional baseline gather kar li. Uske baad uska rishta unse connected kaise? Toh sabse connected hai.
Lekin sabse zyaada connected kisse hai? Jis human ka hamare paas call aaya aur woh human kya hai? Tensed hai. Dog kya hai? Tensed hai. Phir hamara hoga ki aapki tension over a period time increase ho rahi hai kya? Ek repo banane ke liye, ke baad.
Ek achha bond banane ke baad us human se hamara matlab client se keh rahe hain, haan jab, jab hum like ek bond banane ke baad hum unse is tareeke ke sawaal poochhte hain ki aapki tension increase ho rahi hai kya over a period of time?
Aap jaise ab ka-jaise yaar itna kaam badh raha hai, itni saari cheezein badh rahi hain toh aapki tension aapne dekhi ki increase ho rahi hai. Kyunki tension se fark padta hai. Dog ke upar bhi fark padta hai. So we will ask these kind of questions. Woh depend karega situation to situation.
But we will find out ki yeh jo rishta hai aur yeh jo tension create ho rahi hai, yeh human ki wajah se hai kya? Ya koi rituals ki problem ki wajah se.
So jab hume entities ke baare mein samajh mein aa jaata hai na aur hume yeh samajh mein aa gaya yaar dog ko itni walk kara rahe hain, itna baahar lekar ja rahe hain aur food bhi de rahe hain aur ghar par discipline bhi hai. Toh it is not a rituals ka problem. It is the problem of emotions us human ka. Okay?
So is case mein like aapko kya figure out hua? So is case mein aapko kya figure out hua aapke dimaag mein?
zara apne dimaag se baat kar sakte ho. Kya figure out, figure out hua? Ki human tensed hai. Aapke paas kitna data hai abhi? Human tensed hai, dog tensed hai. Dog ka us human se relationship bond strong hai. Bond tagda hai. Toh hume yahan par kis par work karna padega? Kis par work karna padega? Kya cheez par work?
Usko kahan-kahan dikkat aa rahi hai? Usko ghar mein dikkat aa rahi hai dog ke saath aur ghar ke baahar dikkat aa rahi hai dog ke saath. So is human ko ab diagnosis clear kar rakho apna. Tension is the issue. Second issue kaun sa hai? Kaun batayega? Baahar ek clue deta hoon baahar ke time par. Second issue kaun sa hai?
Tension ek issue hai. Ab ek skill ka issue hai. Ek skill ka issue hai. Clue deta hoon. Tension ka ek issue hai, ek skill ka issue hai.
Leash.
Reena
Leash handling.
Sunny
Leash handling. Agar humne sirf leash handling sikhaayi, yeh problem solve hoga kya?
Reena
No.
Sunny
Sirf, sirf, no sirf leash handling sikhaayi hum, sirf leash handling sikhaayi. Humne leash kaise handle karna hai toh yeh baahar ke issue ko solve kar lega kya human?
Reena
Nahi tension agar hai toh woh leash mein bhi aati hai na. Through the energy will be passed on.
Sunny
Yeah, woh see dekho chhote ke, chhote time par ho sakta hai leash handling us par work ho jaaye. Lekin jaise hi woh aage jaayega aur woh apna patience lose karega toh work, work out hoga kya? Nahi. Tension ka matlab kya hai? Anxiety ka matlab kya hai? Insaan ke andar patience bhi develop karna padega na.
Woh bhi cheez develop nahi hai uske andar. Woh tense kyon ho raha hai? Yaar yeh kaam abhi tak nahi hua yaar. There is no patience. Yaar mere ko yeh karna tha. Yaar yeh kaise hoga yaar?
There is a tension. Are kaise hoga? Ye kab hoga yaar? Hai na? Ya itna kaam kaise karo? So all this tension. So us human ko agar hum sirf leash handling sikhayenge jo ki maximum behaviorist aur trainer karne wale hain, yeh problem solve hoga kya? Yeh problem solve nahi hoga. Us human ko kya lagega?
Tension ki awareness ki wo tense hota hai. Okay? Tension ki awareness. Toh isme strategies kya lagengi? Do strategies lagengi. Kaun-kaun si strategy? The first strategy is ki usko tension par work karana hai. Okay? Second strategy is skill deni hai. Kaun si? Leash handling ki.
That's how you are going to solve this case. So humne case kaise solve, kaise case, case kaise solve kiya tha yeh?
Us human ko breathing and meditation ke sessions dilaye gaye the. Us human ko tension ki awareness dilayi gayi thi aur us tension, us, us human ko बोला gaya tha ki saat din tak yeh cheez practice karo and observe your dog.
So seven days tak unhone breathing and meditation ki cheezein practice kari thi and he without any leash handling aur unko decrease mila tha iske andar. Kya naam tha jiski session tune li thi shuruat mein? Bruno naam tha unke dog ka. Uska naam kya tha? Human ka naam kya tha? And koi human ka naam tha.
Bruno unke dog ka naam tha. Indy dog ka naam tha aur Trupti ne unke breathing aur, unhone breathing and meditation ke sessions liye the and saat se 14 days tak unko bahut kam issues milne lage.
Dog ke andar solve hone lage. Unki biwi ke saath unke relationship improve ho gaye. Unki bachchi ke saath unke relationship improve ho gaye. It's not just the dog. Unki biwi ke saath ladai hoti thi, unki bachchi ke saath ladai hoti thi because of his tension, his hypertension.
Unko pata nahi tha wo cheez kaise solve karni hai aur wo human kaam karna chahta tha. So that was the plus point. But the issue is not in the situation, was not in the situation. The issue was in the emotion of the, that human jisse wo dog bahut zyada bonded tha.
So jab unko meditation aur breathing ki practices di gayi aur uske upar unko sessions diye gaye continuous basis par. Teen se chaar sessions mile honge. Then unhone continue rakha us cheez ko. Uske baad maine leash handling unko sikhayi and that's how wo poora case solve hua tha.
So uske baad se guest aa sakte the. Wo dog ghar mein kone mein baith sakta tha aur wo dog ko baahar le ja sakte the aur aaspaas koi bhi dog hote the toh dog react karne lagta tha. Lekin unke paas pehle hi awareness wo leash handling mein sikhayi thi ki jab dog focus karta tha tabhi usko snap out kar diya.
You all know that wo kaise karna hai. But only this is, was not going to solve the case. Okay? Itni awareness aati hi nahi ki kab uska focus aa raha hai because unka dimaag hamesha tension mein chala jaata tha kisi aur dog ko dekhkar. Getting my point? Kisi aur dog ko.
So sirf hum leash handling sikhayenge toh problem solve nahi hoga. Many cases mein. Not rare cases nahi bata raha. Many cases bol raha hoon. Many. Kuch cases honge jisme aap like sirf skills aur in sab cheezon se wo kar sakte ho.
Wo solve kar sakte ho. Lekin jo behavior cases aayenge aapke paas usmein human ko badlaav laana hi padega aur wo aap apne sab mein bhi dekh sakte honge. Apne khud ke saath bhi. Aap apne behavior mein aur apne emotions mein change lekar jab tak nahi aaye the tab tak aapko wo progress nahi mili thi.
Lekin jab aapne khud ke emotions par work kiya toh aapko progress badi dikhi. Okay, so the whole is case mein yeh jo case tha, yeh tension ka case tha. Toh humein aise figure out karna hota hai kaun si emotion ka case hai yeh. Kaun sa dog kaun sa emotion hai?
Wo kyunki shuruat mein kisi ne bhi sawaal nahi poocha jisse aapko yeh gather ho sake ki wo emotion kya hai? Dog ka emotion kya aur human ka emotion kya hai? Wahaan se start hoti hai saari ki saari cheezein. So dog ka emotion tense tha. Yeh figure out kaise-kaise gaya?
Dog ka emotion tense tha aur human ka emotion tense tha. Lekin start kahaan se hua tha? Human se hua tha. Wo dog bhi tense tension wala. Bahut se dogs aise hote hain jo tension ko jaldi absorb kar lete hain. Ab yeh dekho happy-go-lucky dog hai, uske saamne tense nahi hoga.
Lekin bahut se dogs bhi aise hote hain jo tension ki taraf zyada prone hote hain. Okay, zyada prone hote hain. Wo generally, wo generally kaise hote hain? Unke pet andar hote hain. Okay, unki chaati baahar hoti hai. Unka chehra aisa hota hai.
Okay, unka chehra, chehra aisa, chehra aisa hota hai aur, aur wo cheezon ko happy-go-lucky type se nahi dekhte. Wo serious hote hain. Wo dogs ko jab aap dekhoge there is, there is a seriousness aur us human ko bhi dekhoge there is a seriousness. But wo seriousness tension mein convert ho gayi.
Okay, wo tension mein convert ho gayi. So wahaan par humein us human ko us tension ko release karne ka wo dena hota hai. So us tension, us tension ko release karne ke liye breathing, meditation, swimming jaakar karo. Hafte mein ek ya do baar thoda baahar jaao, khelo, koodo taaki wo release ho sake.
And that's how this case got solved. Okay.
Speaker 9
Sunny bhai sorry to interrupt you. Aapko toh breathing exercises aur meditation wagairah sab aata hai. Jisko nahi aata hai toh wo phir kaise matlab?
Sunny
Seekhna padega. Pehle khud practice, haan khud practice karni padegi. Haan matlab Kashish tum bhi practice, khud practice... Main bahut tense person tha. Haan, meri shakl bhi alag thi. So wo hamari shakl bhi alag hoti hai.
Jab hum tension practice karte hain, anxiety practice karte hain, jo hum emotions par rehte hain na, wo hamari shakl par dikhta hai.
So main bahut tense person tha. So that's why I had to learn all these things.
Speaker 9
Kahaan se seekhe? Kuch short videos ya kuch kahin se dekh ke kuch.
Sunny
Haan, ye dekh short videos ya patience ki kami aa rahi hai.
Speaker 9
Aisa nahi bol raha hoon. At least we get to know na ki kaise hota hai. Phir usmein deep mein utar rahe hain.
Sunny
No, so do-do-do-do tumhe directly bolta hoon main Wim Hof breathing. Okay, Wim Hof breathing calms you down. Aapki anxiety release karti hai Wim Hof. Kyun-kyun agar aap ek spiritual perspective par jaaoge there is a no structure in spiritual practice. Marzi pade jaisa karo.
But agar aapko apni life mein lekar there should be some structure. So wo structure humein kahaan se mila? Wim Hof ki breathing. Wim Hof ki breathing kya hai? Wim Hof ki breathing mein sets hain. First set, second set, third set, fourth set.
Is tareeke ke sets hote hain. So Wim Hof ki breathing.
Speaker 9
Wim Hof spell karo.
Sunny
Wim Hof. W-I-M-H-O-F-F Wim Hof. Wim Hof ko completely ek joker ki tarah treat kiya gaya scientific world mein. Joker ki tarah. Okay, wo ek joker ki tarah tha jab wo lekar aaya ki is tareeke se tum depression cure kar sakte ho.
Wo circus mein jaakar stunt karta tha ki dekho main barf ke andar itne time tak reh sakta hoon just by practicing this breathing aur main apne andar ke infection ko is tareeke se door kar sakta hoon. Ye completely ek joker ki tarah bana hua tha.
Phir kuch scientist aaye aur un scientist ne bola Wim Hof ji, hum aapke upar research karna chahte hain aur aapko injection dena chahte hain jiske andar infection hai.
Wo bola ki yes sir, bring me in. Wim Hof ko bulaya gaya, uske andar inject kiya gaya jisse usko, usko bukhar chadhe, infection aaye and usko hum koi dawai nahi denge. Uske us infection ke side effects kya the? Bahut zyada pain, garmi aur bukhar aur sardardi, sardard. Wim Hof ko wo sab cheezein kuch bhi nahi hui.
He started practicing that and then ab usko scientific community mein ek jagah mili. But saalon, uske naam par Guinness World Record hai. Kis cheez ke? Barf ke andar rehne ke. So ab, ab jaakar wo a- bahut thandi jagahon par workshops leta hai. Logon ko wahan par lekar aata hai.
You should see that uske Wim Hof ki documentaries.
Speaker 9
Ice man.
Sunny
Ice man bolte hain.
Speaker 9
Basically this is something available on YouTube kya matlab dekh ke aap seekh sakte ho?
Sunny
Man YouTube par bomb banana tak available hai.
Speaker 9
Nahi-nahi mera, mera, mera sawal yeh tha Sunny bhai isko lekar ki basically yeh jo Wim Hof ka term hai, he was a human. Toh yeh term hai yeh kabhi clients ke saamne show batana nahi hai, disclose nahi karna hai aur kaafi saari apni... Haan.
Sunny
Unko idea nahi hai is cheez ke upar ki kya hai. But you can matlab jab wo is stage par aa jaye ki bhai haan theek hai, first tumhe practice karni padegi is cheez ko Wim Hof ko. So first tum practice karoge. Tum uske a- tab jaakar tumhare andar wo aati hai ki kya bolte hain usko?
Jo bhi bolta hoon, lekin tumhare andar wo authenticity aati hai. Ya phir wo conviction, wo conviction aata hai is cheez ko batane ka this thing works.
So Wim Hof ki poora isko, poora jao isko search karo aur iska ek set practice karo. Tum ek set practice nahi kar paoge. You will lose your conscious... tum, tumhara awareness pehle hi chala jayega. Hai na? Tum ke it's like ki arey main toh yeh practice kar raha tha.
Main kidhar, main kidhar apna dimaag mera kidhar chala gaya? Then you will tum ek, ek cheez bhi, ek tumhe ek set practice karne mein mushkil aayega. So it is not an easy thing to do. Toh first of all humein toh practice karna hota hai. But main tumhe diamonds de raha hoon turant hi.
Wim Hof ki breathing, yeh breathing hai. Second, the meditation. Yes, Kashish thodi aur meditation mein Dr. Joe Dispenza. Doctor, doctor kyon main tumhe yeh cheez de raha hoon? Main aisi cheez nahi dena chahta jiske peeche ek spiritual background hai.
Jiske peeche matlab koi logical sense make nahi kar raha hai. Koi scientific research nahi hai. Main tumhe sirf wahi cheez dena chahta hoon jiske peeche scientific backing hai. Okay, jisko tum proof, jisko hum proof kar sakte hain. This agar koi proof mangega, yeh le research. Hai na?
So humare toh humare andar wo conviction, ab main bol doon ki bhai Tibet ki fire breathing hai, wo kar lo. Hai na? Ab ek monk usko bata sakta hai lekin yeh ki lekin iske peeche scientific backing nahi hai. Lekin Wim Hof Tibet ki fire breathing par based hai. Okay, but wo based lekin uske peeche backing nahi hai.
Fire breathing ke upar. Toh fire backing kiski hai? Wim Hof ke upar hai and Dr. Joe Dispenza ki meditation ke upar hai. Jo Dr. Joe Dispenza ka meditation hai, wo spirituality se kundalini ke upar based hai.
Jo uske, uske meditation ki jo poori technique hai. Lekin kundalini wale ke upar scientific backing nahi hai. Wo usko Joe Dispenza ne step by step samjhaya hua hai ki kaise hota hai, kaise work hota hai wo sab cheezein. So these two things which will change any human being.
Kisi bhi human being ka emotional baseline change karna hai ya phir life change karni hai toh yeh do cheez hai. Sirf do cheez hai. Jo aap karke koi bhi aap mein se koi bhi insaan agar isko aaj chalu karega, your emotional baseline will be completely different in 30 days.
Aapka chehra bhi abhi photo kheench lo aur ek mahine ke baad photo kheenchna. Your emotional baseline complete. Kyunki aapka jo chehra hai na aapke emotions reflect karta hai. Okay, agar aapke emotion change ho gaye toh aapka chehra change ho jayega.
You go check my chehra on Instagram. Do 2000 post hai uske upar. Shuruwaat se dekhna how it is wo change ho raha hai. Hai na? Wo change hota jayega, change hota jayega. So door ke photos dekho and then phir dekho ki kaise change ho raha hai.
Emotions- aur apne jo kuch, nahi samajh gaya Sunny bhai sahi, sahi education hai yeh.
Speaker 9
But apne jo abhi terms hai jaise bhi hum jo padh rahe hain, jaise ki dogs ke, dogs ke modes hote hain, fight, flight jo bhi hai. Toh yeh sab cheezein kabhi bhi client ke saamne disclose nahi karna hai na. This is only for our understanding.
Sunny
It's, it completely depends on the, on client. Client aur tumhara kya rapport hai, wo kitna seekhna chahta hai. Jitna deep knowledge agar client ko hoga, wo utna hi behtar work karta hai.
Speaker 9
Right, toh koi dikkat nahi hai usko sab batane mein.
Sunny
Lekin ek saath overwhelm karne mein, isliye tum information dena tumhara criteria nahi hona chahiye. Tumhara samjhana criteria hona chahiye aur samjhane ka criteria ka pehla hai ki insaan kitna samajhna chahta hai. So pehli stage mein wo ho sakta hai itna nahi samajhna chahta ho.
Tum usko dheere-dheere aage lekar jaoge. For example, maine thousands of consultations liye, lekin tum hi log yahan par kyon baithe hue ho? Tum hi log yahan par kyon baithe ho? Baaki sab log kyon nahi hai yahan par? Because tumhara samajhne ka ek alag wo tha. Tumhein aur samajhna tha.
Baaki sabko itna samajhna nahi hai. Ab main itni knowledge sabko logon ko thodi jaakar de raha hoon. Lekin jo is stage par pahuche hain, unhi ko de raha hoon.
So usi tareeke se tumhare saamne jo clients aayenge, tumhein bahut awareness ke saath unse baat karni hoti hai aur samajhna hota hai ki kitna samajhna chahte hain. So dog training aur dog behavior ki dono alag duniya hai.
Dog training mein insaan yahi samajh ke aata, yahi soch ke aata hai ki unko kuch nahi karna hai. Hai na? Aur dog behavior ki duniya mein bhi insaan abhi yahi samajh ke aa raha hai ki unko kuch nahi karna hai. Lekin humein ek clarity deni hoti hai ki dog training ke andar bhi aapko training mein part toh lena hi hoga.
Lekin dog behavior mein aapko knowledge chahiye hogi dog ki psychology ki. So that is the biggest difference. Dog training dog psychology ke upar itni knowledge nahi deta, lekin dog behavior, dog behaviorist dog psychology pakad ke chalta hai aur dog psychology ki pehle knowledge deta hai.
And then uske baad cheezein aati hain implement karne ki. Okay?
Speaker 9
Right, right done, thanks.
Sunny
So, but client to client you have to improve. This is, this is the art thing. Okay? Yeh art hai jo clients ke saath lagti hai.
Okay? So over a period time hum seekhte hain unse baat karne se.
Kashish
And Sunny, and I'll, I'll have to like I am sorry cutting you in and sorry it theek hai.
But aap jo Wim Hof wala bata rahe ho na just to be-begin with, agar jaise hum Vinyasa aur Hatha yoga karte hain and then Pranayam karte hain, koi directly Wim Hof pe jaayega na, let's say kyunki Wim Hof brings a lot of fire inside you and some people need to calm down and some need people need a boost.
Toh agar Wim Hof karoge na, aap, aap already ek hyperactive person ho. Right? Toh woof karke upar jaaoge. You will go crazy.
Sunny
Nahi.
Kashish
You, you suggested me Wim Hof, I went crazy like haa...
Sunny
Kitne set kiye tune?
Kashish
Right? Sorry.
Sunny
Kitne set kiye? Haan, matlab obviously agar tum jaise agar- unko videos thi, main har roz subah laga ke and then I would just lie down aur main wo karti rehti thi.
Kashish
Then I started sitting in sofa and then main unke sets wo karti rehti thi. Then, apna yoga mat pe I started sitting and then main wahan karti rehti thi. It made me go because main already I am a brain which is hyperactive but my medication suppresses it down.
It made me go, "Woohoo, ab next kya karna hai?" Aisa wala tha.
Sunny
What is wrong in that? What is wrong in that?
Kashish
Because, because I already have a very hyperactive mind and my dogs would need- No, you hyperactive mind is not an issue.
Sunny
The first thing people should know hyperactive mind is not an issue. I have the hyperactivist mind in all of you guys. So hyperactive mi-hyperactive mind is not an issue.
Us hyperactive mind ko release chahiye hota hai.
Kashish
Right, right, right.
So, so, like I keep doing a lot of things side by side other than this, but then agar ek release nahi hoga toh that is what I am trying to tell the bottom line is ki agar ek release nahi hoga na us energy ka, ya toh usko poora apne dogs pe laga do ya kisi aur activity jo bhi kar rahe ho, usme laga do.
Wo agar Tim Hof ke saath agar aap usko release nahi kar pa rahe, you will go like woohoo!
Sunny
Yeah, so it gives you good feel na. Wo good feel deta hai. So Wim Hof is based-- wo depression hataata hai. So Wim Hof depression hataata hai. Wim Hof apne dimaag ko shaant karta hai aur ek happiness ki feel lekar aata hai. Happiness is not hyperactivity. Woohoo! Let's do this.
This is happiness. This is joy. This is not hyperactiveness. Toh agar usko hyperactive tu bol degi toh then you will see it differently. It's not hyperactive.
Kashish
Mere haath aise hone lag gaye the ek time ke baad.
Sunny
Yeah, that is the common symptom. Jab humare andar blood flow hota hai na because we take very, very shallow-- hum achhi breathe nahi lete. Hum oopri-oopri breathe lete rehte hain. Jab hum Wim Hof ki breathing karte hain, bahut zyaada oxygen humare andar jaati hai.
Aur jab bahut zyaada humare andar oxygen jaati hai toh-- aur hum usme apni breathe ko low bhi karte hain. Hum rokte bhi hain uske andar.
Kashish
Correct.
Sunny
Baaki log Wim Hof nahi karein jinko nahi samjhega wali baat. Lekin wo apni breathe ko hold bhi karte hain. This holding and this intake of too much oxygen humare andar wo tinglings lekar aati hai. Hai na wo tingling hoti hai. Humare haath vibrate karne lag jaata hai.
Lekin wo because of ab humare andar bahut zyaada fuel aa raha hai aur oxygen aisi jagah ja rahi hai jahan par wo kabhi ja nahi paayi thi. So it's like bolte hain na rom-rom khilna kind of thing hai. It's a very happy feeling. It's a very joyful feeling and everyone should do this Wim Hof ki breathing.
Kashish
Main poora scared ho gayi thi like ki kya ho raha hai.
Sunny
That's because you-- that's, that's, that's-- it is not because ki tu isse scared ho gayi thi. It's because there is fear inside you of your mind. Kuch like you all-- you have this thing is like ki ye unke saath bhi ho sakta hai agar unko guidance nahi mile.
Jiske jaise for example, if you got seizures and if you got, got anything related to this. So agar jo-- agar tumhaare dimaag mein thodi si bhi zyaada in like energy aayegi it will trouble you. But from-- it's not a re-- it's not a reality.
It's just ki tumhe phir guidance lagegi. Tumhe teacher lagegi. Nahi, nahi isme-- kyunki jaise hum kabhi spiritual path par jaate hain we, we get into a very dark space. Very dark, very, very da-- very dark.
Wahan humein guru ki madad lagti hai, kisi ki madad lagti hai ki jo humein us bata sake ki are ye darkness tujhe dikh raha hai it is not darkness kind of thing. Tu isko soch raha hai. So again it is like with you. Wo problem nahi hai. Wo hyperactive you are in joyful mood.
Hyperactive jo tum bol rahe ho wo tum anxiety se relate kar sakte ho ki main anxious ho rahi hoon. Lekin tum kya ho rahe ho? Tum joyful ho rahe ho. Aur joyful kya I want to do things. So that is a good thing, man. That is a good thing. Hai na?
Wo ho sakta hai wo tere andar ka nature bhi baahar nikal raha hai because ho sakta hai bahut lambe time se tumne roka hua ho apne aap ko kisi na kisi kaaran ki wajah se.
Aur wo jab oxygen jaati hai it gives you more fuel. Aur jab humein more fuel milta hai humara mind more chalta hai. Andar bright ho jaata hai. Bright mind, yeah.
Kashish
It's like tr-tr-trifti aisa hai na Ashtanga mein jaise jaldi-jaldi breathing lete hain toh Wim Hof ki aisi hai without any pause. Toh mere liye it's, it's not good because mere liye slow one is good. I feel more softer there. Maybe, maybe I don't know. Like I'll give Wim Hof another try kuch dinon baad karke.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah.
Reena
10 minutes ki ya 11 minutes ki I do that many times. Toh wo kai baar poori nahi bhi ho paati. You just have to just try jitna tum kar sakte ho and gradually you can increase the timing. Matlab wo 10 ki 11 minutes wali beginners ke liye hai na. When you feel stabilized on that then you can always go one step ahead.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah. So aur ek aur cheez hai ki jab bhi koi breathing karo like mera toh maqsad rehta hai ki I will push myself kind of thing. Ki jo mujhe kabhi feel nahi hua woh feel hona chahiye. Hai na it's like it's a different thing na.
Jaise woh tingling jab mujhe pehli baar feel hui thi I was like mind blown ki what the fuck is this man? Kabhi feel nahi hua. Aur mere ko dimaag jab maine Wim Hof ki breathing kari pehli baar. Pehli baar alag hit hoti hai bhai. Hai na?
Jab, jab maine pehli maine pehli baar kari toh mera poora mind is like ki andar kisi ne menthol chhod diya ho. Hai na poora. Yeah, andar kisi ne menthol chhod diya aur it was like full white andar se. Mujhe hai what the hell is this? Main kidhar tha? Hai na so woh apni awareness ko increase kar deta hai.
So apni consciousness ko increase kar deta hai and apne mind ki functioning ko increase kar deta hai.
Depression ko hata deta hai. Usko Nobel Prize milna chahiye bhai. Hai na apne depression itna simple hai. Matlab you have to do this breathing and daily basis pe and you will become more smart. How crazy is that, man? So I become more like dimaag zyada chalne lag gaya.
Dimaag achha chalne lag gaya and that's phir woh common woh ek woh ban gaya ki ab main aap khud hi deep breathe karne lag gaya. Daily basis pe. Aisa nahi ki mujhe thoda time nikaalna padta hai. By default ab meri breathing deep ho gayi. By default meri breathing ab pet se hone lag gayi. Not yahan, yahan se chhati se.
So woh kaise hua? By continuous practicing this. So Wim Hof just practice once. Shuruat mein tumhe tingling hogi. But it is agar tum usko continue karoge it is going to revolutionize your life. Aur revolutionize ka matlab hai ki change kar degi.
Ab woh change shuruat mein ho sakta hai tumhe uncomfortable lage because change toh karegi because you will change. Toh shuruat mein uncomfortable ho ki tumhari life badal rahi hai usse. So rishte badalte hain, ghar badalta hai, zindagi badalti hai, sab cheez badalti hai. Lekin woh change hai.
Aur woh change ko tum perceive kar sakte ho ki change is equal to kharab. Woh human ka default nature hai. Change is equal to kharab isliye hum grow karne se ghabraate hain kyunki growth hamesha change pe hi aati hai. Hai na like hum apne comfort zone se baahar jaate hain toh hi humein growth milti hai.
Hum apne comfort zone mein rehte hain toh it's like tum same usi jagah par hai, usi direction pe ho. Lekin hum change se ghabraate hain. Okay. Hum certainty dhoondhte hain. Human ka nature hai survival jo nature hota hai hamara survival jo instincts hoti hai hamari woh certainty dhoondhti hai.
Certain-certainty and change is two opposite thing.
Lekin jo growth hai woh certainty mein nahi hoti, woh change mein hoti hai. So we will always fear something which is changing us or which is changing our situations. Yeh by default rehta hai. But over a period of time you will develop an habit ki change is good. But initially tumhe hamesha lagega change is bad.
Something is problematic. Okay? So Wim Hof try karo. Go search about it and just ek set try karo and please try karo. Please try karo. I am really like telling you guys please try karo aur please batao ki kaisa tumhe laga? Kya dikkat aayi aur tumhare andar kya badlaav hua iske andar?
Kyunki tum dekhoge us insaan ko jis par case aaya tha tension ka, humne dog ko help, dog ko train nahi kiya. Humne human ko in concepts se roobaroo karaya, awareness di.
Okay? Ab aap logon ke paas woh awareness hai ki there is something like Wim Hof and Dr. Joe Dispenza. Dr. Joe Dispenza ka meditation is little bit more advance. So don't start from there. Start from where? Wim Hof ka. Okay? That's it guys aaj ke liye itna hi. Yes, Tavisha ji.
Tavisha
Haan Sunny, mera ek question tha isi se related. Last time ki case study mein aapne kaha tha ki matlab 70 to 80% cheezein jo hoti hain woh dog ritual se hi matlab sabhi usi mein lagbhag ho jaati hain 70 to 80%.
Sunny
Haan.
Tavisha
Right? Toh abhi aapne jaise question poochha aaj toh hum sab logon ka dhyaan usi taraf gaya lagbhag.
Sunny
Haan, tabhi toh yeh wali case study present kari gayi hai.
Tavisha
Right, right. Nahi-nahi, haan, aap sahi bol rahe hain. Aur abhi aap jo bol rahe the ki humans ke emotions par bhi dekhna hai matlab woh cheezein bhi karni hai. Toh aap aise hi matlab uska kuchh sequence hai ya phir humko ek woh aapki learning ka sequence hai.
Sunny
Figure out karne ka sequence, see jaise maine aapko bataya figure out karne ka sequence kya hai? Entity ki information data gathering ki. Woh hum kaise data gather karte hain. Lekin aap logon ki learning ka sequence kya hai? The first sequence is dog psychology. Learning ka sequence bol raha hoon.
Humein kis tareeqe se learn karna hai insaan ko dog ke baare mein, is behavior ke poore profession ke baare mein, dog behaviorist ke profession ke baare mein uska sequence hai. The first sequence is learning dog psychology.
Second sequence is learning about rituals of dog. Theek hai? The third sequence is humans emotions. The third stage is humans emotions. Okay? So yeh sab cheezein humein learn karni hoti hai aur yeh course mein bhi hai. Okay, humans emotions. So human ki energy matter karti hai poori ki poori.
Woh bolte hain na 20% cheez 80% ko impact karta hai kayi baar. So that 20% is this human ka emotion. Okay?
Tavisha
Okay. Haan, mujhe yahi poochhna tha ki woh sequence kya hai lekin woh abhi aapne clear kar diya.
Sunny
Yeah. So data gathering ka sequence kya hai? Entities aur entities ki relationship. Okay? What is the meaning of entity? Entities like beings, dog aur uska human, these all uski family, these all are entities.
Toh humein uska information gather karna hota hai. But dog behaviorist ka sequence kya hai? Uski understanding ka sequence kya hai? Ek dog behaviorist banne ka sequence kya hai? Woh sequence hai first hum dog psychology seekhte hain.
Doosri hum rituals of dogs seekhte hain aur teesri hum humans ki emotions, humans ki energy ke baare mein understanding lekar aate hain. Okay? That is the sequence. Teen cheez.
Tavisha
Thank you.
Sunny
Okay? Yeah.
Tavisha
Thank you.
Sunny
Okay guys, that's it. Kashish Sharma. Yes.
Kashish
Toh jaise aapne bataya koi bhi hamare paas case aata hai, pehle humein dog, dog aur human, human and dog ke beech ka connection isko decode karna hai. Then woh baahar kya kar raha hai, kiski taraf kaisa different react karna hai, isko decode karna hai. Labels and woh sabse end par lekar aane hain.
I want to ask you this question.
Jab aapko sab kuch figure out ho gaya how did you reach out to the client and told him ki aapko Wim Hof karna hai softly and how did you because aapne bataya ki ek kaise personality tha. Toh yeh kaise bataya jaaye ki dekho tumko thoda shaant hone ki zaroorat hai.
Sunny
We will talk about this in next session because it will be a little bit of thoda lengthy ho sakta hai is cheez ke upar. Okay na. We will, yeh bataunga main ki clients ko kaise batana hai kyunki maine tumhe yeh iska clue diya tha ki thoda rapport create karne ke baad. Okay? Then hum unke emotions ke upar aate hain.
Agar hum directly emotions ke upar aayenge unke so it will not work out.
Kashish
Exactly.
Sunny
Okay na. So we have to create ek simple sa batata hoon. We have to create aur woh rapport ek second mein bhi create ho sakti hai.
Kisi-kisi ke saath ho jaati hai na ki like yeh jo baat bol raha hai iske andar compassion hai aur yeh mera bhala chahta hai. Tab hum uski baat zyada sun sakte hain.
But I will talk about this in next session and usmein samajh mein aayega ki clients ko is tareeke ki personal baatein ya phir is tareeke ki jo uske ego ko hurt kar sakti hai ya phir jo uski emotions ko hurt kar sakti hai, woh shaanti se kaise bataani hai. Okay?
Shaanti se kaise bataani hai, rapport create karke kaise batana hai. Okay? Cool hai? Next session. All guys, that's it. Thank you so much aur aasha hai aapko maza aaya hoga is session ke andar.
Kashish
Bahut maza aaya. Bye Sunny sir. Thank you.
Sunny
Wim Hof karna. Yes. Bye, bye.
Tavisha
Thank you. Bye, bye.
Sunny
Bye, bye.
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