Pro group call · Fri 14 Aug 2026 · 1 hr 25 min
Working on emotions, not just timing, when correcting dog fights
Sunny Luthra introduced a shift in the OhMyDog method: instead of relying only on the old 10 to 15 second correction window, trainers should first read how intense a dog's emotion is, especially in fights, heat-cycle aggression, or fear, since emotion drives the behaviour and the dog links corrections to the feeling itself, not just to the trigger. He explained that tethering a reactive dog and physically stepping away mimics how a pack withdraws from unacceptable emotion, which is why isolating a dog can work even when done for the wrong reasons. Members brought real cases including a fight between Brownie and another dog, Wolfy's chewing and guest reactivity, an Indie's sleep-startle biting, chewing from boredom versus separation anxiety, and the effect of training two dogs separately, and each was reframed through this emotion-first lens. The call closed with a short discussion on the limits of episodic memory in dogs and the concept of a canine trance state.
Key points (6)
- Sunny explained that dogs link corrections to their emotional state as well as to the environment, so the classic 10 to 15 second rule does not always apply, especially with intense emotions like fighting.
- Tethering a dog and physically moving away communicates that the pack disagrees with that specific emotion, mirroring how dogs discipline each other in nature.
- Locking a dog away can work from a dog-psychology perspective, but if it comes from human frustration rather than calm intent, it damages the relationship and can increase future aggression.
- Tired dogs release stress faster because stress is energetically costly, so long walks, swimming, or sun time can help a dog's emotional state settle.
- Sleep-startle biting often starts because humans hover over sleeping puppies, and it is helped by giving the dog a raised, dark, corner sleeping platform or crate rather than floor sleeping.
- Episodic memory in dogs is scientifically unresolved because it requires self-awareness, so dogs likely form emotional associations with people and objects rather than consciously recalling specific past events.
- On the call
- Vayu, Sunny, Srijana, Tavisha, Kashish, Bhavna, Manya, Dodo's owner
Working on emotions, not just timing, when correcting dog fights
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Transcript
Hindi written in English letters. The audio is the record.
Vayu
Reinforce karke usmein toh mujhe lagta tha ki dog train ho gaya aur jo fight wala kya ki I also observed ki agar fight poora.
Sunny
Tere aawaaz kat raha hai. Aawaaz kat raha hai bahut zyada. Mere liye sabke liye. Sab sabke liye aawaaz kat, aawaaz kat raha bro. Kuch samajh nahi aa raha. Matlab bahut problem aa rahi hai.
Vayu
Range ka issue hai shayad.
Sunny
Okay, yeah. So, so, so is cheez ko main dobaara, dobaara is cheez ko main dobaara, is cheez ko main dobaara batata hoon ki for example suppose kar lo leash par agar woh lunge karta hai toh emotions humein hum hamesha kya consider kar rahe hain? Abhi tak sirf woh kya association create kar raha hai?
Kya meaning create kar raha hai? Kya usko dikh raha hai? Woh kaise react kar raha hai? Hum uske emotions consider kar rahe hain kya? Koi bhi us cheez ke upar. So hum, humne emotions ko, hum sirf emotions ko kaise dekh rahe the ki memory kitni andar ja rahi hai.
Hum usko correction perspective se nahi dekh rahe the. Emotions ko hum correction perspective se dekh sakte hain. For example, agar usne leash par react kiya toh uska emotion kitna intense tha. Agar uska emotion bahut intense hai toh five second, dus second ka rule wahan apply nahi hota.
You can paanch minute tak ja sakta hai. Dus minute tak ja sakta hai correction ko. Kyon dus minute tak ja sakta hai correction ko? Kyonki dog hamare correction ko uske emotion se link karega, not just uske environment se. Woh apne emotion se bhi link karega.
Woh sirf isse link nahi karta ki uske environment mein kya chal raha hai. Woh kya mehsoos kar raha hai. Woh usse bhi link karta hai hamare correction ko. Aur emotion paanch minute, dus minute, pandrah minute, tees minute poore din bhar chal sakta hai same emotion.
Toh paanch second ka dus second ka rule apply nahi hota har jagah par. Yeh samajhna thoda dikkat aayega. Matlab you will take time to absorb, absorb this thing kyonki bahut puraani woh chali aa rahi hai, paanch second dus second wali. Lekin koi emotions ko...
ab main aapko emotions ko considerations batata hoon aur uske baad main saare questions leta hoon. Emotions ek example deta hoon. For example, wahi dog ki fight ka example deta hoon aapko main. Dog ne fight kari doosre dog ke saath aur bahut intense maamla tha aur us intense mein uska emotions increase hua hua hai.
Jab humne usko fight se wahan se hataya toh woh ekdam it's like aise tha. Woh shiver ho raha tha. Kind of, kind of is tareeqe se shiver kar raha tha.
Lekin dus second pass ho chuke hain. Pandrah second pass ho chuke hain. Dus minute ho chuke hain. Lekin he is like right now aise. Hum usko us samay correction de sakte hain ki nahi de sakte? Hum usko us samay correction de sakte hain.
Okay, us samay hum correction de sakte hain aur us samay woh jo hum correction denge, lekin woh correction different tareeqe ka hota hai. Not leash ka nudge, not a disciplinary action. Getting my point? Not a correction is a different, it's, it's, it's not ki hamesha leash ka nudge hi correction hota hai.
Lekin hamara correction wahan par kaam aa sakta hai uske emotion ke upar. Toh hum wahan par kya correction denge? Usko leash se ek jagah par baandh denge. Toh woh kya link kar raha hai apne emotion ko? Ek jagah par baithna. Woh kya link kar raha hai us emotion ko?
Freedom ka chhinna. Getting my point? Ek cheez samajh mein aa rahi hai woh kya link kar raha hai us emotion, us emotion se? Jo intense tha, ho gaya meri options kam ho gayi hai. Mera yeh kam ho gaya hai, which means this emotion is taking things away from me. Woh link karne lag jaata hai. Getting my point?
Yeh kaise humein kaam, kaise, kaise humein kaam aa sakta hai? So hamari puraani jo understanding thi, main apne aap ko contradict kar raha hoon na. Main shuruaat se kya bolte aaya hoon? Dus second mein correct karo, fifteen second mein correct karo. Lekin uske baad tum karoge toh koi matlab nahi hai.
Main hamesha aise hi bolte aaya hoon aur hum sab log yahi, yahi sunte hain. Lekin yeh correct nahi hai. Poori tareeqe se correct nahi hai. Kyonki un sab cheezon mein humne emotions ka consideration nahi kiya. So agar emotion intense hai then correction can go like lamba.
Pandrah minute, dus minute. Yeh toh time consider nahi hota. Sabko samajh mein aaya. Isko ek cheez ko samajh, ek cheez ko samajh mein aaya. Ab main questions, questions leta hoon. Aapki, aapki baat sunta hoon. Lekin keep it brief, okay? Yes, Vayu, go ahead.
Vayu
Abhi aawaaz aa raha hai?
Sunny
Haan, aa raha hai.
Vayu
So fight ka example main wahi de raha tha Brownie ka. So jab woh fight mein, fight mein jaati hai, bahut intense ho ke jaati hai eyes lock karke. Toh phir after that jab usko alag karte hain, uske baad toh agar fight se alag bhi karte hain toh her body is still into that mood.
Sunny
Yeah.
Vayu
Jo aapne bola aur uski eyes wahan pe hi hai, usko jaana hai. Mentally she is still fighting basically. Toh woh moment ko agar maine shaanti se leash pe liya aur ek side mein liya, usko neeche bithaya na, toh calming karne se usko yeh samajh aaye ki matlab woh cycle beech mein break ho gaya.
Sunny
Main batata hoon. I, I got it. I got it. Hai na? Lekin yahan par correction jaise tune usko shaanti se bithaya. Yahan par aur proper correction kya ho sakta hai? Usko tu kahin par baandh de aur wahan se door rakh ja.
Vayu
Okay, baandhna padega.
Sunny
Kyon, kyon maine bola? You are, tu jo cheez hai us dog ke liye, Brownie ke liye you are a reward. You are his pack. So jab uska aisa emotion hota hai, pack door chala jaata hai.
Vayu
Okay.
Sunny
Getting my point? Kaise, kaise unse hum communicate kar rahe hain? Jab tumhara yeh, hum apne relationship mein aisa nahi karte. Koi hamare relationship mein, koi humse gussa kar raha toh hum kya karte hain? Usse doori bana lete hain na.
Ek tareeqe se communicate karne ke liye ki yaar this is, I am not agreeing with this thing. What are you doing? Hai na? Bhale hi woh, woh kuch harkat nahi hai, bas woh emotion feel kar raha hai.
Saamne wala banda gussa hai tumse, chidha hua hai tumse, kuch bhi kar raha hai. Lekin hum kya communicate karte hain? We are not agreeing with this in our own way. Dog se hum kaise, kaise kar sakte hain?
Dog jab bhi ek aise emotion mein aata hai, jisse pack agree nahi hota, pack usko door kar deta hai ya phir khud door ho jaata hai. So how can we implement this thing with us? How we can implement this thing? We will tie the dog and we will move away. We will move away.
Yeh ek baar, ek baar galti se Paresh ji ne kiya tha. Yaad hai video share kiya tha. Unko is cheez ki understanding nahi thi. Paresh ji ne kya kiya tha? Unka dog jo bhai sahab hai, usne react kiya. Usne usko kahin par baandh diya aur woh door ho gaye.
Thodi der mein woh shaant baith gaya tha ki this is not allowed aur uske baad se woh shaant hote ja raha hai. Toh that was woh bina understanding ke cheez kari hui thi.
Lekin actual mein kya ho raha tha pack usse door ja raha tha uske is behavior ke upar. Okay, this is dog behavior, this is not training. Hum dog behavior ke dog psychology ke concepts ko real life mein kaise implement kar sakte hain?
So pack kaise door hoga jab brownie ko jo tera dog hai usko wahan se bandhenge aur tu door ho jayega that will be more effective. Okay.
Vayu
Aur abhi ismein na maine kya kiya tha usko bithaya shant kiya. Lekin jis dog se usne fight ki thi na usko wahin par bithaya. Wo side dekhne di aur uske bawajood wo shant kiya maine toh so is it advisable ki usko wahan par hi rakhe ya us situation se door lekar jaye.
Sunny
Nahi see wo tu usko wahan par bhi rakh sakta hai situation se door bhi lekar ja sakta hai completely depending on your skill and the intensity of the dog.
Vayu
Okay.
Sunny
But the right thing will be to move away from the dog.
Vayu
Okay.
Sunny
Toh usko ek signal wo dega. Are mera pack alag ho gaya. Ye kya hua? Hai na? Mera pack isse agree nahi ho raha. Otherwise kya hoga agar hamare paas skill nahi hai aur hum galat wo kar rahe hain toh usko kya lagta hai? Mera pack agree ho raha hai iske saath wo karne ke liye maarne ke liye.
Lekin agar hum usko kahin baandh dete aur hum door ho jaate aur hum usko aise dekhenge toh pack is not agreeing with you. The pack is not agreeing with you. So that signal unko jaata hai. So ye on the moment bhi ho sakta hai aur after the moment bhi ho sakta hai. After the, after the moment kab hota hai?
Hum directly unke emotions par work karte hain. Suppose kar le after the moment the dog is still like this, still like this. Tum kahin wahan par toh usko ek jagah par bandhoge aur door baithoge usse. Then she will understand ki yaar ye emotion se mera pack agree nahi ho raha.
So dogs bahut simple hote hain. Unko aisa complex nahi chahiye hota hai kuch vocabulary. Unko just 1+1=2 chahiye hota hai. Mera ye emotion hai. Main is tareeke se feel kar rahi hoon aur mera pack mujhse door ja raha hai. Yaar ismein kahin gadbad hai. Okay, they, they aise combinations wo banate hain. Okay, cool hai.
Who is the next? Yes Bhavna.
Speaker 3
So mera ek sawaal yeh hai ki kya yeh punishment ka jo tareeka hota tha, jo log pehle matlab bahut baar aisa hota hai ki dog ne kuch kiya, usse dar gaye aur dar ke usko bathroom mein band kar diya and these cases keep coming right. Toh hum log hamesha uske against rehte the.
Is term mein ki dog baith ke soch nahi sakta hai ki bhai matlab maine kya kiya?
He can't go back and reflect on his action which made him to feel this consequence. So is this not contradicting that first question.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah wo galat tha hamara.
Speaker 3
So matlab dog ko baandh dena bathroom mein ya bathroom mein band kar dena is a right approach?
Sunny
No, it is not, it is not right approach. Wo approach depend karta hai ki aapka seed kya hai. From where you are. Agar aap usko punish karne ke liye ja rahe ho that is not a right approach.
Lekin agar aap usse communicate karne ke liye ja rahe ho ki because this emotion is not acceptable right now so whatever means is necessary matlab wahan par jitne bhi resources mere paas available hai wo available hokar main tere saath communicate kar raha hoon ki this is not, this is not working out between us.
Speaker 3
Theek hai.
Sunny
So yeah matlab hum, hum, hum directly against nahi ho sakte.
Speaker 3
So basically human emotion ka is par effect padega ki aap kis emotion ke saath usko baandh rahe hain.
Sunny
Haan, wo effect padega. Jaise suppose kar le Vayujeet agar apne dog ko gusse mein aakar kar raha hai that is not going to properly work. Wo rishte ko degrade karega. Theek hai. Wo rishte ko degrade kar raha hai. Bhai sahab jo Paresh ji hai unhone apne bhai sahab ko gusse mein aakar nahi kiya tha.
Just an experiment perspective se kiya tha ki isko main baandhta hoon toh kya hota hai? Toh hum ab dekho hum ab directly wo nahi bol sakte. Iske against nahi ja sakte. From dog psychology perspective hum directly against nahi ja sakte ki band karna work nahi karega. From dog psychology perspective that works.
Wo work karta hai aur bahut saare log isliye yeh cheez continuously hoti rehti hai kyunki work karti hai. Hai na dog shant ho jaata hai kyunki usko pack se alag kar diya.
Wo pack uska alag ho gaya. Lekin human ki understanding matter karti hai. Agar human ki understanding frustration se hai toh dog ka aur inka relationship kharab hoga. Human ka relationship kharab hoga. Hai na wo degrade, wo degrade hoga.
Aur phir human kya karegi na human kya karega na frustration ko hamesha tool bana lega ki main ab uske dimaag mein association frustration is equal to dog ko bathroom mein daalo. Wahan ek bad toh hume understanding deni hoti hai is cheez ki. Okay.
Speaker 3
Wahan par phir wo nayi association build nahi ho jayegi.
Sunny
Kya?
Speaker 3
Ki dog jab bhi main kuch kaatta hoon phir mera human frustrate hota hai aur frustrate hone ke baad baandhta hai. Toh frustration zaroori nahi hai na sirf bandhne ke time par aayegi. Frustration toh kisi bhi time par aa sakti hai human ko.
Toh jab bhi human frustrate hoga dog will get frustrated as well and probably wo attacks badh jayenge usmein.
Sunny
Haan matlab wo depend karta hai na ki aap agar dog ko exercise nahi de rahe ho aur ye sab nahi de rahe ho toh dog frustrate jaldi hoga. So these all things come after following the rituals of dogs.
Speaker 3
Haan.
Sunny
Matlab if you are not walking your dog, if you are not giving matlab agar aap food dhang se nahi de rahe ho, discipline dhang se nahi de rahe ho, play dhang se nahi de rahe ho, affection dhang se nahi kar rahe ho toh wo pehle matter karta hai. Agar aap wo cheez kar rahe ho toh dog will not go in that zone.
But aapke paas yeh tool hona chahiye. Aapko understanding hona chahiye aur ye khas kar hum logon ke liye jo behaviorist hain aur dog psychology ko understand kar rahe hain. Kyunki hum khullam khulla is cheez ko mana karte aaye hain.
Speaker 3
Haan.
Sunny
Okay, hum khullam khulla is cheez ko mana karte aaye hain aur we will be like wrong in this thing. Hum khullam khulla kya mana karte aaye hain ki dog ko hum aadhe right hai poore nahi.
Speaker 3
Theek hai.
Sunny
Hai na poora, poore ka matlab kya hai? Dog ke andar emotional drag hota hai jisse dog link karta hai. Emotion se bhi dog link karta hai not just visual se, not just smells se, not just sound se, not just touch se. Emotion is also a part of that association.
Wo jo hum kabhi consider nahi karte the anjaane mein ki emotion part hai association ka. Kabhi humne class mein baat kari.
Speaker 3
I think humne kiya hai. Humne kiya hai yeh discussion ki ek event hota hai. Wo event jo hai dog ko ek emotion feel karata hai. Us emotion feel karne ke basis par uska reaction nikalta hai and then wo baar-baar repeatedly jab hota rehta hai then wo associative memory banti hai.
So trigger se zyada wo emotion par jaata hai ki agar yeh mere ko feel hoga toh main yeh reaction dena shuru kar doonga.
So humein emotion par hi kaam karna hota hai to change the dog's emotion at that moment, at that moment ki hum uska emotion change kar dein. Hum hamesha isi baat par, isi tareeke se toh associative memory humne emotions se hi toh change kari hai hamesha. Humne emotion change kiya hai na.
So for example, ek bhopu hai, phoon aawaaz karta hai. So my dog gets scared like this, reacts like this aur probably apna poora body aise squeeze kar leta hai, chupne lagta hai. Toh hum kya karte hain ki hum uska emotional state hi toh change kar rahe hain na us time par. Us time par hum kya kar rahe hain?
Ki jaise humne phir humne desensitization shuru kiya. Humne phoon bajaya aur dog ko leash par rakha apne saath. Toh woh bhaagne ki koshish karega toh hum use apne saath calmly bitha ke rakhenge. So humne wahan par emotion par hi toh kaam kar rahe hain hum.
Sunny
No, like nahi complete, ya matlab humara hum us par emotions par kaam kar rahe hain lekin hum uske options cheen rahe hain sabse pehle bhaagne ke.
Speaker 3
Haan, toh humne yeh kiya first step. Phir uske baad hum tab tak woh bajaate rehte hain, hum tab tak usko repeat karte rehte hain, tab tak follow through karte rehte hain jab tak dog completely okay nahi ho jaata usse.
Sunny
Yes, right.
Speaker 3
Right? Toh humne exactly toh wahi kiya na ki humne usi moment par correction shuru kari aur usko wahan tak lekar gaye dog ko jahan tak uska emotional state humne from panic to calmness mein nahi lekar aaye.
Sunny
Yes, yes, absolutely right.
Speaker 3
Theek hai? Toh humne associative memory ko change kara usi moment par but woh track toh hua hi hai tab bhi.
Sunny
See, dekh toh us samay hum kya, jaise ismein, ismein antar kya hai na jaise suppose kar le humne associative memory jo humara mindset tha is cheez ko dekhne ka. Object wahan par hai aur wahan se woh hum association memory par kaam kar rahe hain uske emotion ke oopar.
Lekin humne kabhi bhi yeh nahi socha tha ki object agar nahi hai jisse hum association kiye, hum uske baad bhi usko correction kar sakte hain.
Speaker 3
Humne kiya tha is par bhi, is par bhi humari discussion hoti hai Sunny ki jab nahi hai dog atak gaya. You remember we used to talk about dog us emotional state mein atak gaya.
Theek hai, hum usi ki toh baat kar rahe hote the ki ab woh us emotional state mein atak gaya hai but we never, toh no personal things into it but mere ko yeh wala method of tying up the dog somewhere and pack se alag hona, woh method ke saath mein abhi thoda sa it will take time to process.
Sunny
No, that is, that is emotional, that is see, I will bring dog psychology to you guys.
Speaker 3
Haan.
Sunny
Ki dogs ek doosre se kaise- Main yeh samajhna hai, main, main yeh samajhna chah rahi hoon kyunki humne is cheez ke oopar pehle bhi baat ki thi ki dog emotions mein atak gaya.
Speaker 3
Ek dog stress ho gaya, subah kuch hua, usse stress hua. Humne us waqt correction bhi de di. Dog ka physical body rest par gaya, emotional body rest par nahi gaya.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 3
Right? And then shaam ko woh phir shaam tak woh pareshan raha.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 3
Right? Toh humne usko change karne ke liye humne jo ways nikaale the you remember you were like ki lambi walk par le jao, uska emotional state change ho jaayega. Usko dhoop mein bitha do, uska emotional state change ho jaayega.
These were the emotional state discussions that we, changing of emotional state discussions that we have done. Right? Ki usko ya toh swimming kara do.
Sunny
Yeah, all these emotional matlab all these emotions it will, it will matlab see emotion ko change karne ke different, different cheez toh hoti hai.
But from my perspective mein tumhe kya matlab main yeh bataana chahta hoon ki maine kabhi bhi is tareeke se consider nahi kiya tha ki asso-- jis cheez se hum associate kar, how I used to work na ki suppose kar le koi cheez hai aur yahi main sikhaaya karta tha jaise suppose koi, koi cheez hai ki dog kisi cheez mein stuck ho gaya.
And hum kya karte the usko? Usko lambi walk par le gaye toh woh apne us cheez se baahar nikal jaayega. Toh completely ki kaise jaise humare saath hota hai agar hum stress mein hain aur hum gym par gaye ya phir kahin par gaye toh hum apna stress release kar lenge.
Toh zaroori nahi hai ki jis cheez se woh stress mein hua. So the point is which I am trying to make na ki jo hum paanch se 10 second ka woh lete the, window lete the theek karne ka dog ka, woh completely correct nahi hai.
Speaker 3
Haan, haan.
Sunny
Hum emotions par humne, humne emotions par pehle bhi baat kari hai aur emotions par humne baat kari ki jitni bhi uski associations hai na woh emotion ki wajah se deep jaati hai. Emotion ki wajah, emotion ki wajah se deep jaati hai.
Agar humein kisi se uska association change karna hai for example woh kisi cheez se darta hai aur agar humein usmein calmness lekar aana hai toh humein repetitions dene honge us object ko saath mein lekar aakar.
Agar dog kahin par stuck ho jaata hai, kisi emotion mein stuck ho jaata hai toh humein ek new activity lekar aani hoti hai for example humein walk lekar aana hoga ya phir humein swimming par lekar aana hoga us emotion se release karaane ke liye. Yeh emotion se unstuck hai. It is not about correction. Okay?
It is not about, it is, it is not about correction. Toh main tumse specific, specific for example zone out hum kisse kara rahe hain? Zyaadatar hum fear se karaayenge ki hum usko walk par lekar jaayenge. Lekin ek dog ek fighting ki spirit mein aa chuka hai. Isliye main tumhe ek specific example de raha hoon of fight.
Hai na? That is of fight. Hum fear par zaroor is tareeke se kaam karte hain but fight ya phir koi bhi alag intense emotion hai jismein dog aaya, aaya hua hai toh paanch se 10 second ka ya phir woh kisi cheez se object laane ki zaroorat nahi hai.
Hum directly unke emotions par work kar sakte hain. Directly unke emotion par work kar sakte hain.
Speaker 3
Woh toh hum usko wahan par prepare kar rahe hain ki beta yeh emotion is not acceptable. Theek hai? Yeh, yeh toh humne wahan par usko yeh samjhaaya. But at the same time jab hum bol rahe hain ki woh object nahi hai right?
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 3
Aur emotion supposedly 9 o'clock woh object tha 9:15 par woh object nahi hai.
Sunny
The, the walk is a reward. Walk is a reward, swimming is a reward. Agar ek dog ek fighting ki spirit mein aaya hua hai toh agar hum usko walk par lekar jaayenge we are just giving him more that kind of. Agar dog frustration ki wajah se fight par aaya hua hai then walk is good thing.
Lekin agar woh ek suppose kar le koi female heat par aayi hui hai and they are fighting so aur hum us samay par usko zone out karne ke liye walk par lekar ja rahe hain it is not going to work in our favor.
So it is not going to work in our favor because we are rewarding in a sense.
Hum agar usko us, us emotion par hai, us fighting waale emotion par hai aur hum usko like ek, ek swimming ke session par lekar ja rahe hain ya phir us jagah par lekar ja rahe hain just hum woh aur usko woh kar rahe hain, usko reward type de rahe hain. So woh zone out nahi hoga us cheez se.
Lekin agar hum aise hi dog ko jo fighting ke kis par, main specific example le raha hoon fighting ka. Hai na? Specific example le raha hoon. Not koi aur example, ek specific example le raha hoon jismein fights hoti hain.
Agar aapke paas multiple pack hai ya phir dogs ke andar fight, fight ho rahi hai toh usmein dog bahut intense emotion mein jaata hai aur us intense emotion mein 10 second, 15 second ki zaroorat nahi hoti. Humein usse communicate karna hota hai ki pack tujhse door jaayega.
Pack tujhse, tere se doori bana ke rakhega aur wo hota hai jab log humko bolte hain ki humne usko ek jagah par band kar diya ya phir humne usko leash kar diya. That is actually a right strategy but driven from a wrong perspective. Okay, that's a wrong perspective.
Speaker 3
Dog ko nahi lagega ki maine kaata aur mujhe distance mil gaya.
Sunny
Haan, toh pack door ho raha hai tujhse.
Speaker 3
Nahi, nahi. Supposedly ek dog kaat raha hai ki use distance chahiye.
Sunny
Wo insecurity mein agar kaat raha hai that's a different thing. I am just talking about a fighting spirit. Agar insecurity mein ka, insecurity mein har ek cheez ko same mat samjho. Agar fighting ka, isliye main tumhe baar-baar fighting ka example le raha hoon.
Fight, not insecurity ka this thing, not out of frustration. Fight for example completely is, main, main yeh nahi bol raha ki generalize yeh completely tumhe work karega.
Yeh ek deep knowledge hai aur deep knowledge ki kis cheez ki hai? Ek specific case ki hai. For example, ek female heat par hai aur dog fight kar rahe hain. That fights are intense.
Speaker 3
Hmm, hmm.
Sunny
So aisa nahi hoga ki tumhe day to day life mein is cheez ke upar kaam a-matlab tumhe yeh use aayegi but it will give you deep understanding of their emotion. Toh agar dog, ek female dog hai, wo heat par hai and dogs fight kar rahe hain, their emotions will be intense. Us, us dauraan paanch se 10 second kaam nahi karta.
Okay? Paanch se 10 second tumhe consider nahi karne hote. Tum uske baad bhi us dog ko ek jagah par akela baandhkar communicate kar sakte ho ki this emotion, specifically this emotion is not acceptable. This emotion is not acceptable.
Kyunki us samay- How will the dog relate ki yeh emotion acceptable nahi hai for which action?
Action, that's why we are not working. Aaj tak hamesha humne action consider kiya hai. That's what I am trying to tell you ki hum hamesha humne action first consider kiya hua hai. In this thing we are just considering emotion, nothing else. Only emotion.
Speaker 3
How will that impact?
Sunny
Wo dog ko lagega ki this emotion is not acceptable.
Speaker 3
In any circumstances?
Sunny
In any circumstances.
Speaker 3
Okay.
Sunny
Fighting, wo this emotion jo mujhe mehsoos ho raha hai, mera pack isse door ja raha hai. So this is more deep which will be, which you, hum intense cases ke saath yeh use karte hain. It is more deep. Hum direct emotions par work karte hain. Direct emotions par work karte hain yahan par.
Hum direct emotions- So yahan par toh human conflict ki baat nahi ho rahi.
Speaker 3
Yahan par dog to dog conflict ki baat ho rahi hai.
Sunny
Koi sa bhi conflict ho, agar dog ke andar wo fighting ka intense emotion hai fight ka. Hai na? Ek red zone ke, red zone ke cases sune. Red zone wala dog hai. Ek fight zone wala dog hai and he reacted like this. Usko leash par, usko kennel par aur usko doori banate.
That is how you will, you are going to communicate on emotional level ki this is not acceptable. On emotional level.
Speaker 3
Ek aur sawaal aa raha hai isme se mere paas ki yeh toh tab work karega na jab human jo hai, matlab main scenario imagine kar rahi hoon ki agar isme human agar reward hi nahi hua, human 24 ghante baatein karta hai aur human completely available hai toh human reward nahi hai. Right?
Sunny
Yeah.
Speaker 3
Yeh toh us case mein kaam hi nahi karega because human reward hi nahi. reward agar peeche - Freedom is a reward.
Sunny
Freedom is a reward.
Freedom is a reward. Haan, it will take away the freedom. Toh there should be in dog world, in dog world there are consequences.
Speaker 3
No, no. That I agree.
Sunny
Human, human consider nahi karta aise consequences ko. Lekin dog world mein major consequences hote hain misbehavior ke, major consequences.
Speaker 3
Haan, usme toh matlab jaan hi jaata hai.
Sunny
We somehow has to like positively mimic that to communicate with them. Somehow. For example, dog ke, dog ki duniya mein agar misbehave hota hai toh wo phat ke padte hain.
Speaker 3
Haan.
Sunny
Phat ke padte hain. Dog doosre ko bahut maarte hain, bahut maarte hain. Heat ke time par kill kar dete hain.
Speaker 3
Hmm, hmm.
Sunny
Okay, so that we cannot do na. That we, but we somehow to create strategies based on their psychology.
So based on their psychology is, is what dog kyon phat ke maarta hai agar misbehave karta hai? Phat ke maar-maar ke door karte hain. Phat ke, haan.
Speaker 3
Okay, correction hum discuss kar rahe hain isme. Emotional state of, emotional state change ke ways of corrections hum discuss kar rahe hain. Kya wo personality to personality bhi depend karta hai ki kaun si personality dog ke saath hume kaun sa correction, correction use karna hoga?
Sunny
See, dekho right now jo main tumse baat kar raha hoon na it is just about emotion. Uske baad dog aata hai upar ki taraf. So ek intense, ek int, jo, jo suppose emotions are same in humans and dogs and all animals.
Ek emotional, emotions ki jo vibration hoti hai na, we all are like yeh emotion ki vibration hai and then yeh apni upar ki layer hai.
Apni upar ki layer human ho sakta hai, apni upar ki layer dog ho sak, like dog ho sakta hai, ek bandar ho sakta hai and all this thing hota hai. This is common emotion ki layer. Haan, bahut se humans ek multiple spectrum mein emotions mehsoos experience kar sakte hain. Humans.
Dogs ek kuch spectrum mein emotions experience kar sakte hain. Jis tareeqe se hum dekh sakte hain multiple spectrum. Humara dekhne ka vision ek different hai, dog ka dekhne ka vision different hai na. We are different here also in emotions.
So ek emotions ki ek apni layer hai and then uske baad ek apne dimaag ki apni ek, apni ek, apni ek layer hai. So it's not about personality. Personality idhar aati hai. okay idhar se derive hoti hai emotions. personality kahan se derive hogi? Agar humare emotion joyful hai toh hum kaise person hai?
joyful person hai, person hai. Humari personality kya hai? joyful personality hai. Agar humare emotion angry hai toh humari personality kya hai? angry personality hai. personality yeh nahi karti emotions yeh derive wo, wo, wo karte hain.
okay phir over a period of time humari personality isko influence karti hai aur yeh humari personality ko influence karta hai. Wo ek loop banta hai. okay wo ek loop banta hai. Isliye hum jab iski baat kar rahe hain hum personality consider nahi karte. emotions ki baat kar rahe hain.
Hum sirf aur sirf apna focus emotions par rakhte hain. intense emotions par rakhte hain. So agar emotions intense hai toh dog matter nahi karta hai. Hume unke emotions par kaam karna hota hai. Kaun? yeah. So jaise sabse waapas aa raha hoon aapke, aapke upar. So hum emo...
aur yahan par agar easy karna hai isko samajhne ke liye sirf ek case par consider karo, not all par.
Hai na? it will confuse you. Hai na? Hum all par nahi, all par nahi kar rahe. Hum just to just intense intensity par work kar rahe hain yahan par. intense emotions ki main kyunki maine kabhi bhi intense emotions ke upar is tareeke se baat nahi kari hai. Ho sakta hai pehle baat bhi kari ho tumhe.
Lekin intense emotions ke upar baat nahi kari ki hum kis tareeke se sirf aur sirf emotions par focus kar sakte hain. emotion par focus kar sakte hain. not on kisi bhi association ke upar.
so dog fight- But hum already is par kaam kar rahe hain in terms of jab hum structure banate hain dog ka jisme hum sone ke liye usko baandhte hain, jab hum usko alag rakhte hain thoda sa pack se toh hum already un state of minds ko address already kar rahe hain.
Speaker 3
Wahan par.
Sunny
Idhar, idhar, idhar hamara mindset just association hai through objects. Hai na? baandh ke rakhenge toh uska yeh matlab hai, ghar ka matlab yeh hai, uska matlab yeh hai, iska matlab yeh hai.
we are just working on association wale level par.
Speaker 3
Hmm, hmm.
Sunny
Phir jo hamari strategy hoti hai woh just main yahan par mindset ki change karne ki baat kar raha hoon. Humne work kiya hai.
Speaker 3
Jab ek dog ekdam ha, ha, ha kar raha hota hai matlab poora ekdam intense emotion se nikla chal hi raha hota hai usme. Kuch kiya usne, usne intense emotion mein haanf raha body tremble ho rahi hai.
Tab hum usko jab massage dete hain ki uska woh release ho tab bhi toh hum emotion par hi toh kaam kar rahe hote hain ki change your association in this.
Sunny
Again, again change your association. Hamara, hum kar wahi rahe hote hain lekin hamara mindset association par based hai. Hamara mindset us samay association ke through emotions par jaata hai. Matlab hum soch rahe hain ki uska kya yahan par kya-kya cheezein ho rahi hain.
Main agar usko aise karoonga toh uska association calmness se ho jaayega aur woh calm down hone lag jaaye.
That's what we are, what we are doing. Isliye main tumhe samajhne ke liye de raha hoon.
Speaker 3
Achha aap keh rahe ho forget about, forget about event.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 3
Talk about yeh emotion hi chalega nahi.
Sunny
Yeh emotions ko kaise, haan just, just yeh isliye main tumhe bol raha hoon right now sirf ek case par focus karo. right now sirf ek case par focus karo. Yeh kyunki bahut puraani learning hai. Sirf ek aur woh hai intense fight. Sirf fight par focus karo.
Ki agar ek fight, fight intense hai aur woh dog bahut zyada usme aaya hua hai toh 5 se 10 second ka matter nahi karta hai. Yeh personality par matter nahi karta hai. Uske complete emotions par matter karta hai aur us emotion se hum disagree ho rahe hain. But how to communicate that thing?
Woh disagreement, woh disagreement ka communication kya hai? leash karna, doori karna. nature mein disagreement kaise hota hai?
Phat ke maar ke pack se baahar nikaalna. Woh hum nahi kar sakte. okay matlab near kill tareeq tak lekar jaana. Yeh dog ka unka nature ka woh hai, woh hai. intense par not day to day mein intensity ki baat kar raha hoon main bhi right now. Isliye bol raha hoon apna focus sirf ek jagah par rakho.
Idhar-udhar nahi lekar sirf intense emotion par rakho. So agar intense fight ka emotion, fight ka emotion hai wahan par toh hume usse communicate karna hai doori. Woh hum kaise karenge? Aap usko kahin par baandh sakte ho, kahin par door rakh sakte ho ki aapke paas nahi aaye. nature mein kaise hota hai?
Phat ke padte hain gardan par, organs, organs ke upar taaki woh doo-door jaaye aur door rahe. That's how they communicate unse. okay.
Speaker 3
Aur yeh a-kab-kab hume backlash maar sakta hai?
Sunny
Right now, right now sirf understanding ke liye just apne mind mein lekar aao.
Backlash tab maar sakta hai jab tumhe iski poori understanding nahi hogi. Poori understanding se, haan poori understanding se mera matlab hai ki like tum, tum abhi bhi like jaise aap koi chhota sa emotion hai. Hai na? Usne kisi ne, kisi ne kuch ne, usne, usne react kiya aur tumne frustration se aakar usko baandh diya.
So that is not going to work. Aur why this is not going, why this is not going to work? Kyunki wahan par tumhara frustration ka bhi emotion aa gaya. So just isko understand karne ke liye sirf ek cheez par, ek cheez par dhyan rakho aur woh dimaag mein socho ek dog hai jo intense tareeke se fight kar raha hai.
fight khatam ho chuki hai but still he is in that zone. Woh neeche ja raha hai aur woh dhoondh raha hai and his body is like this thing, kind of thing jo red zone cases mein tumhe dekhne ko milega.
Speaker 3
Haan, hmm, hmm.
Sunny
okay na? red zone cases mein target ja chuka hai.
It's been 5 minutes and he is still doing like this. Aur hum bol rahe hain, "Arey kya hua? Chala gaya, baith jaana, shaanti se kar le." This is all thing, this is all thing. Aur tum sochoge ki ab isko sikhaane ki bhi woh nahi hai kyunki seekhega kaise? Isko pata kaise, isko pata kaise chalega?
That is association based thinking apni. Ki hum association ke upar strategy create kar rahe hain. Us jagah par emotions ko consider karo. So aane wali approaches mein like main dheere-dheere tumhare saath framework share karne lag jaaoonga ki how hume ab emotion se soch ke aage badhna hai. Hai na?
right now abhi tak jitni baat bhi maine tumhare saath share kiya coincidentally usme emotions consider ho gaye coincidentally.
Speaker 3
Logon ne hamesha kiya hai emotion consider is what I am considering.
Sunny
What I am saying you na ki abhi humne first priority emotions ko aisa nahi kiya.
Speaker 3
Nahi di, nahi di.
Sunny
Haan that's, that's I am saying. That is, that is the mindset we need to change. Hamara change, hamara mindset completely associative based thinking ke upar strategy create karna hai. isn't it? Jitna bhi humne kya association based thinking kaise change karni hai uske baad usme emotions aate the.
Bas main abhi prepare, yeh meri finding kuch do-teen din puraani hi hai. Okay, just-just mujhe samajh mein aaya do-teen din puraani hai. So I main completely aur maine tumhare saath isko share karne socha ki emotions bahut zya-- pehle lene chahiye aur agar isko samajhna hai toh hume ek hi cheez par focus karni hai.
Dog intense fight kar raha hai that's it. Ek hi case hamare mind ke liye easy rahega. Ek hi case par focus karna aur kisi cheez ke upar focus nahi karna ki dog dara hua hai, hyper hai.
Log yeh bolte hain, log woh bolte hain, falaana-dhikaana sab dimaag se completely hataana. Is cheez ko samajhna unki emotion. Toh ek dog hai, case kya hai? Ek dog hai, usne intense fight kari hai. Target ja chuka hai but woh still us zone mein hai. Wahan par kya, wahan par kya karna hai?
Wahan par kaise uske saath communicate karna hai? Tum nach nahi kar sakte, tum kuch nahi kar sakte ho. Tum uske saath baithoge that is also a wrong thing for that. Toh kya karoge us cheez ko?
Speaker 3
Ko ke saath jab dogs ke association kharaab hote hain tab hum, tab bhi toh hum yahi karte hain na ki dog ko baandh dete hain. Pataakha toh baj chuka hai. Ek ghante baad bhi dog calm par hai toh hum baandhte hi toh hain.
Sunny
Hum uska flight rok rahe hain. Hum uska flight rok rahe hain.
Speaker 3
Achha.
Sunny
Us-us flight ke through hum uske again coincident, hum uske flight ke through uske again strategy, hum uski flight rok rahe hain. Us flight ki wajah se uske emotions change ho rahe hain.
We are doing that.
Speaker 3
Toh hum uske emotion par hi kaam kar rahe hain na Sunny ek- lekin hum usse door nahi jaate na.
Sunny
Hum usse door nahi jaate na. Humare andar woh feel nahi aati na ki humein usse doori chahiye.
Speaker 3
Haan.
Sunny
Isliye bol raha hoon apna dimaag sirf aur sirf ek intense dog ki fight ke upar focus karo. Ek intense dog ki fight hui hai and then we are communicating with him ki kaise hume tum, hum tujhse doori le rahe hain aur woh doori kaise hogi usko ek jagah par baandh ke. Lekin apna emotion bhi matter karta hai.
Apna emotion bhi matter karta hai aur woh paanch se 10 second ke hi nahi hota.
Toh hum jab isko karte hain, kya bolte hain, jab ek dare hue dog ko karte hain fight, woh aawaaz ho rahi hoti hai toh hum-hum-hum yeh cheez dekhte hain ki woh kab tak bhaag raha hai, kab tak woh kar raha hai aur jab hum usko baandhte hain toh hum uski flight ko rok rahe hote hain bas.
Aur flight ko tab tak roke rakhte hain jab tak woh calm down nahi ho jaata. correct baat, correct baat hai na us cheez ke liye. Lekin hum uske liye kuch andar se aisa feel nahi kar rahe hote ki tu door ja, tu yeh ja, tu woh like tu, hum tujhse doori, doori bana ke, doori bana ke rakh rahe hain.
Lekin ek intense dog ke saath humein yeh cheez lekar aani hoti hai.
Speaker 3
Laani padti hai. So basically this is not a thumb rule for all the dogs and this will not work with all the dogs in all the scenarios.
Sunny
This is just for your deep understanding ki dog ka emotions ko matter karta hai. Nahi toh jab log bolenge hum usko alag band kar dete toh tum unke munh par bologe unko yaad nahi rehta. Unko yaad nahi rehta. Lekin yeh that is a wrong thing. Unko idhar se yaad nahi rehta, lekin unke emotions mein hai.
Woh still they are feeling that thing. Okay? So yeh tumhare deep understanding, it is not ki day to day life mein tumhe yeh cheez implement karni hai. But it's a new finding. As I am bringing it to you ki this is new finding. Hum emotions par is tareeke se dhyaan nahi dete.
Toh bahut saari cheezein jo strategies aayegi hum woh miss ho jaenge.
For example, hum logon ko bolenge woh again woh darwaaze band karne waala hai example. Woh humara wrong hai. You know complete frustration se band karein that is wrong thing. But that's, that works actually. Okay, that works actually.
Lekin woh kaise work, kaise work karta hai woh humein understanding aani chahiye us cheez ki. Hum usse bol rahe hain tere is emotion se hum doori maang rahe hain. Tu humare tak pahunch nahi sakta. Okay? So just intense, intense dog ke upar dhyaan do ki ek dog fight kar raha hai aur ek us-us zone mein, ek red zone mein.
Toh hum usko ek alag jagah baandhte hain aur apne andar feel lekar aate hain we are giving distance, we are taking distance from you. You-you- Dog ko bathroom mein band kar dena agar woh intense emotion mein nahi hai. Haan, wrong hai.
Speaker 3
Tab toh wrong hai na.
Sunny
Uski, agar uski walk poori nahi ho rahi, usse tum lagataar excitement mein baat karte rehte ho.
Tum lagataar yeh cheezein kar rahe ho toh again main tumse yahi bol raha hoon. Tum agar multiple jaaoge-jaaoge na wahaan tumhe yeh cheez samajh mein nahi aayegi. Just focus on one case. Wahaan par sahi nahi hai but tum wahaan jaa kyun rahe ho? I know wahaan jaa kyun rahe ho? Sabse pehle is cheez ko understand karo na.
Aur understand kaise karoge? Sirf ek-ek, ek case par dhyaan do. Sirf ek case ke upar dhyaan do.
Speaker 3
Samajh gayi. Thank you.
Sunny
Yes Srijana ji.
Srijana
Sunny my, I-I will try to like my understanding on this topic is yeh saara sab kuch jo aapne abhi bataya that is situational, correct? Like for example, if I am sleeping over the night, subah maine uth ke dekha ki Wolfy ne abhi recently hua she chewed on my speaker.
Toh woh raat ko kab hua hai I am not going to correct her in the morning because usko pata nahi hai main kis cheez ke liye correct kar rahi hoon, correct?
Sunny
Correct.
Srijana
But if there is a fight between Wolfy and Sheru and there Wolfy is in a very aggressive mode. Are you trying to tell me that immediately mujhko usko alag karke and then correct karna hai like leash karna hai because right now Wolfy is also in a very aggressive state.
So if I talk to her like communicate ki abhi hat ja, then we both are talking. Will that work? Because I mean like I usually give her some time to cool off and make her reason that jab main tumhare saath baat kar rahi hoon then she is listening to me.
Because when she is aggressive towards Sheru then she is not listening to me. Toh agar main jo bhi boloongi she will not listen.
Sunny
Yeah.
Srijana
Toh is situation par, yeah.
Sunny
Yeah, woh listen nahi karegi. Toh us samay par jaise hi, jaise hi aapko lage ki situation aap unke agar beech mein aa sakte ho, unko door, unko bina baat kiye unko, unko, unko door bhej sakte ho aur jaise hi woh thode se bhi door jaaye, unke collar ko halke se grab karke unko leash kar sakte ho.
That's how you are communicating this is not, this is not allowed without, without speaking anything.
Srijana
Right, understood.
Sunny
Ab, ab ek cheez batao jab usne speaker ko chew kiya wahaan par hum usko correct kar sakte hain nahi kar sakte. Raat ko agar usne speaker ko chew kiya hai, lekin subah hum usko correct kar sakte hain nahi kar sakte.
Toh generally, haan, generally Generally das second pandrah second ke agar hum rule par jaenge toh nahi kar sakte. correct baat hai, correct baat hai. Lekin hum kaise isko correct kar sakte hain? Hum Wolfie ko pakadenge, usko speaker ke paas lekar aayenge. Woh speaker uske andar woh same emotions trigger karega.
Okay, woh same emotion trigger karega. Again hum yahaan par kya kiya emotional ke uske upar aa gaye. Woh same emotion trigger karega kya? Yeh speaker hai chew karne ka.
Usko woh smell aayegi jo usne chew kara hoga aur jaise hi usko smell aayegi uski aankhein change jaayegi. Aap uske collar ko idhar karke bologe no. You are directly working on the emotion now.
Srijana
Understood.
Sunny
Okay. Lekin woh emotion uske andar aane chahiye pehle, uske baad aap usko correct karoge. Not chewing, sirf chewing ki, sirf chewing ki zaroorat nahi hai ab. Okay, emotions bhi matter karte hain. Kyunki first emotion aate hain then uske baad act aata hai.
Aur abhi tak hum sirf aur sirf act par work karte aaye hain ki yeh act hoga toh humein sikhaana hai. No, act se pehle emotion aata hai. So woh hum unconsciously sabko bata rahe the ki agar leash par agar woh focus ho raha hai toh usko woh kar do.
Lekin focus se pehle bhi emotion aata hai kyunki emotion ko feel nahi kar paate na.
Toh hum uska focus ko dekhte hain and then we, we correct hain. So aap Wolfie ko correct kar sakte ho das ghante, baarah ghante kitne bhi ghante pehle kiya ho. Usko us object ke paas lekar aakar and dekho woh emotion generate hota hai kya uske andar. Like it's like that and then say no, then say no.
Toh usko samajh aayega ki main iski tarah ki emotion project nahi kar sakti aur is emotion se yeh act nahi kar sakti. Then they will matlab woh they can understand. Okay.
Srijana
Yes sir, one, one more question sorry. and jo aapne yeh leash karne ke liye bola hai so if I take the example of guest coming in the house so certain guest Wolfie will not like okay. Sabke saath aisa behave nahi hota hai. Some of them she will like really hate like for some reason.
Sunny
Jo, jo, jo, jo just a second waise guest jo thode loud hote hain aur ek waise sound, waise sound nikaalte hain hi kind of thing.
Srijana
Talk ya talking jo talk bolte hain.
Sunny
Wo Wolfie ko pasand nahi aayenge. Jo guest shaanti, shaanti se aayenge calm down aayenge humble usmein aayenge wo Wolfie ko pasand aayenge.
Srijana
Yes sir.
Sunny
Ye uska, ye uska antar hai. Just a second.
Srijana
Sorry Sunny but Wolfie aisa usually karega kyon? Ya karegi kyon? Sorry.
Sunny
Kis cheez ke liye?
Srijana
She is a sensitive dog. Wolfie she is asking.
Sunny
Yeah, wo jo wo thode sensitive dog hai aur sensitive dogs ko excitement se aur unse thoda dikkat hota hai. Matlab agar tum thode kapde bhi aise pehan loge jo hawa se aise aise hil rahe hain na she will be like what is this?
Srijana
Yeah, she notices all the movement. Yes, that is it.
Sunny
Wo alert dog hai aur alert dog, alert dog ka matlab kya hota hai? They can, they can absorb more data than a normal dog that is the alert dog. Getting my point? Ki wo zyada, zyada data, zyada data absorb kar sakte hain.
Ab zyada data absorb kar rahe hain aur saamne wala human hi overwhelming hai toh uske liye overwhelming ho jaata hai toh phir Wolfie bark karna start kar deti hai ki this is too much data thoda kam kar bhai.
Srijana
Right sir, so is case, is situation mein na agar maine Wolfie ko jab wo guest particular guest aaya mere ghar par maine usko leash kara. Theek hai. Toh uska association is there a chance that she will start associating that jab bhi yeh guest aata hai toh mujhe leash kar de so I have to bark at him more.
like a negative association hone ke chances honge?
Sunny
Wolfie ko koi khaana, koi treat pasand hai?
Srijana
Treat hai, ya.
Sunny
So do thing kar sakte ho ki unko jo guest aa rahe hain, jo aapko pehle pata hai ki thode loud hai toh aap unse request kar sakte ho. Ya toh aap unse neeche mil sakte ho matlab ya ghar ke baahar mil sakte ho aur ghar ke andar wo thode shaanti se aayein. Bas Wolfie unse yeh communicate kar rahi hai.
Srijana
So she is not a lot of treat motivated, food motivated nahi hai. So jab guest aata hai and when she wants to bark at that guest she will bark at that guest she will not do anything else. She is like focused to bark on the guest. Toh treat bhi doge it will not work much you know. So my question hai jab agar...
Sunny
Treat nahi dena hota. Treat nahi dena hota. Main just pooch raha tha aapse treat nahi dena hota. We cannot give, we cannot give treats jab when, when they are we can use treats to distract them not give, use treats okay to distract them.
Ki kyonki hum agar hum treat phenk rahe hain toh they will become more confused.
Srijana
Haan, haan, ye bhi hota hai. There I have stopped you.
Sunny
Thodi smelly treats jo uski nose ko trigger karein and then usko direct karke then shaant karke hum usko de sakte hain. Jab wo shaant hoga toh jo guest hai wo bhi de sakte hain thoda door se.
Srijana
Okay.
Sunny
Thoda phenk ke. Lekin usko pehle shaant karein. Wo shaant nahi hoga phenk rahe aur badhayega barking.
Srijana
So is situation par agar hum wo leash wala karenge toh she will have a negative association that this guest is coming toh mujhe baandh ke rakh rahe hain so I should hate this guest even more.
Sunny
Not toh us, us liye humein thoda usko reward bhi dena hota hai. Hum, hum tere ko baandh rahe hain isliye because yeh guest comfortable nahi hai teri wajah se toh tu ek jagah par bandh ja but yeh haddi le aur usko chew kar le.
Srijana
Haan, theek hai. Yes sir.
Sunny
Give something to her jo usko usi waqt milta hai. Some reward, something rewarding. se wo engage ho sake. Okay. Bhale wo toy ho sakta hai, anything ho sakta hai, lekin us toy ko alag rakho. Roz daily basis par mat nikaalo. Use that for this training perspective. Okay?
Srijana
Okay sir. Okay, thank you so much.
Sunny
Yes Manya, aaj toh ek hi question le paayenge apan. Mere toh do question aur baaki the. Yeah, yes Manya.
Speaker 5
Yes, so jaise aapne bataya ki emotion drag hota hai.
Sunny
Yeah.
Speaker 5
So like wo, wo bhi dog to dog depend karta hai na ki wo kitna drag hoga. Matlab dog kitna jaldi use release kar paayega ya phir koi dog jaldi release nahi kar paayega. So overall can we work on this thing ki dog jaldi release kar paaye uske liye we can do something.
Sunny
Aur uske liye dekh hum. Haan uske liye hum kya use kar rahe the walks. Lambi, lambi walks usko taaki thak, thaka ware. Wo jab hum thake hue hote hain hum stress mein aate hain kya? Zara emotions ka khel dekho.
Jab hum thake hue hote hain hum, hum, hum, hum itne aalsi ho jaate hain ki hum keh rahe hain kaun stress mein hai, so jaate hain masti mein. Aisa hota hai na? humans ke saath aisa hota hai. Matlab agar hum thake hue hote hain toh hum stress tak bhi nahi aate. Toh dogs ke, dogs ke saath bhi hota hai.
Hamaare paas energy nahi hoti stress mein aane ki. Stress takes a lot of energy. So stress is not a mental thing. Stress poore body ka thing hai. Jab hum stress mein aate hain hamaare organs, hamaare, main jab hamaare bolta hoon na toh usko samjho beings. okay? Dogs, animals everything. okay?
Jab hum, jab hum, jab hum stress mein aate hain hamaare organs overdrive work karte hain, over work karte hain.
Kyon over work karte hain? Body ke perspective se stress is equal to peeche predator hai. Hum abhi kuch time pehle hi ek safe zone mein aaye hain. Safe zone ka matlab kya? Hamaare paas buildings hain, cars hain, ye sab hai. Pehle ye sab kuch, kuch sau-do sau saalon pehle hi bahut mushkil, bahut mushkil tha.
hai na rehna. Jaan bachaana bahut mushkil tha. So hamaari body tuned hai stress se. Stress is equal to peeche sher pada hai. Ab peeche sher, peeche sher pada hai toh humein andar se oorja chahiye hoti hai banaane ke liye aur wo, wo oorja banaane ke liye mehnat lagti hai.
So stress is a costly process, is a costly process. Toh jab hum thake hue hote hain we don't trigger that costly process.
Speaker 5
Right.
Sunny
Dogs ke saath kya hai? Jab hum aur animal toh bahut energy ka expenditure bahut soch samajh, wo soch samajh se matlab instincts wise karte hain.
Wo aise expenditure nahi karte energy ka. Jis tareeqe se human consider nahi karta na. Kuch bhi, kuch bhi karta hai, kuch bhi sochta hai, kuch bhi khaata hai, energy ko consider nahi karta. Dogs consider, animals consider karte hain ki wo kitni energy expenditure expend, expend kar rahe hain.
Toh agar dog thake hue hote hain, wo stress mein nahi trigger nahi karte. So that's how we can like tune down. That's how we can increase ka emotion ka jaldi ho jaaye unka, release ho jaaye.
Speaker 5
And also I have one more question. Agar like I recently came across this case jahaan pe the female dog she is Indy hai wo and usse sleep starter hota hai. Matlab agar suppose she is sleeping and kuch uske aaspaas halka sa bhi movement ho jaaye then she grabs it and matlab kaat liya usko.
Sunny
Kaat lega.
Speaker 5
So recently usne apne owner ko bite kar liya tha.
Sunny
Bite kar lega.
Speaker 5
Yeah, so in that case how we can correct that dog or communicate with that dog? Because wo sleep startle se ho raha hai toh matlab wo bhi consciously nahi kar rahi hai matlab if we can say.
Sunny
Yeah, yeah wo consciously nahi kar rahi, wo sleep ki wajah se hoti hai aur khaaskar un dog ke saath hota hai jab wo bachpan mein so rahe hote hain aur humans ko uske upar bahut zyada pyaar aata hai toh bahut zyada loomte rehte hain uske upar.
Sote hue baar-baar uske upar jaate rehte hain toh wo bachpan se wo darr aise, aise hota rehta hai. Aise hota rehta hai. Wo human check nahi kar paata ki wo aise ho raha hai. Wo so, wo so raha hota hai. Haaye kitna pyaara lag raha hai.
We do this na, clients jaate hain na apne aap ko rok nahi, apne aap ko rok nahi paate. Toh dog kya karta hai? Aise hota hai. Ye kya hua? Ye, ye, ye kya hua? Ye kya hua? Over a period, period of time ye jaise wo bada hota hai na aur ek teenage ke usmein jaata hai, ye biting mein convert ho jaata hai.
This start, ye fear. Jaise hi fear hoga kaun hai, kaun hai, kaun hai and they will start cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. Toh jo bhi cheez move karegi na wo uski taraf badh chalenge. Agar pair move nahi karega toh wo pair mein aise, aise karke chhod dega. Lekin agar wo bite karne laga aur human move ho jaata hai toh bite.
Ab yahan par karna kya hai? Yahan par kaise, kaise usko cheez kar sakte hain? Uska raised platform banana padta hai us dog ke liye. First, first of, first of all human se baat karni hoti ki bachpan mein jab ye sota tha, aap iske upar aa jaate the kya? Isko pyaar karte the kya? Taaki unke andar se gussa khatam ho.
Unko samajh mein aaye ki unse derived hai, ye behavior. Nahi toh unke andar kya aata hai. Are yaar isne mujhe bite kar liya, main isko khaana deta hoon, ye deta hoon aur ye deta hoon.
Speaker 5
Exactly.
Sunny
Exactly yahi bolte hain na wo log.
Speaker 5
Yahi bola tha.
Sunny
Yahi haan main isko khaana deta hoon phir bhi isne mujhe kaat liya.
Apne owner ko hi kaat liya. Ye kutta toh kisi kaam ka nahi hai. Ye toh aisa, ye toh hum sunte rehte hain, ye saari ki saari cheezein. Toh hum directly strategy par kaam nahi karte.
Toh jis tareeqe se wo blame dog ko kar raha hai, hum unko peeche lekar jaate hain aur unse cheezein poochhte hain ki aap bachpan mein kaise karte the? Bachpan mein dog sota rehta tha toh hum uske upar jaate the kya? Hai na, wo kabhi aise, aise karta tha kya aapko? Aise panje maarta tha kya puppy hota tha toh?
Ye cheezein poochhte hain. Kyunki ye sab signals hain, door hato, mere se door raho aur aise karega wo ki mere se door raho, mujhe chhod do. Lekin human kya kehta hai? You are so cute. Poora usko munh mein laga lega aisa. You are so cute and falaana.
So ye dogs, agar ye sensitive hain, unko nahi chalta, unko nahi chalta aur ye aage chalkar is tareeqe se behavior karte hain.
Toh hum, humein human ko bataana hota hai ki this is derived from your behavior in a subtle way. Kyon? Kyunki uska frustration sabse pehle hataana hai. Nahi toh wo usko, kyunki jo main strategy bataunga wo strategy kisse karega? Out of frustration, out of punishment and that will degrade the this thing, relationship.
Aur biting ke chances aur increase ho jaayenge. okay, aur increase ho jaayenge. dog ko kya lagta hai? Tu yahan par tera dekh raha hai aur main yahan par mera dekh raha hoon. dog ko aisa lagta hai jab out of frustration unko baandhte hain. okay? So is dog ko kya karna hoga? Ek raised platform banana hoga.
Us raised platform par hi sulaana hoga aur leash karke rakhna hoga kuch time ke liye. After giving a long walks and long runs ghar par lekar aana hoga.
Us raised platform par lekar rakhna hoga aur wahan baandhna hoga. okay? Isko zameen par nahi sula sakte. Zameen se upar ki cheez hogi, usmein dikkat hoga. Toh aise dogs ko jo night mein ya phir jo sote waqt is tareeqe se karte hain unke liye strategy kya hai? Raised platform.
okay raised platform and corner, corner not middle, middle of the corner raised platform thoda andhera.
Tavisha
And also at that time matlab human ko uske zyada paas nahi jaana chahiye right matlab agar wo so raha hai.
Sunny
Matlab uske aas-paas jaakar baith sakte hain wo. Lekin wo bandha hua hai. Haan bandha hua hai lekin agar raised platform par rahega na uska behavior tune down ho jaayega. Completely bandha nahi kar raha hoon. Tune down ho jaayega. Zameen par rahega uska behavior zyada aggravated rahega.
Toh aise aise dogs nature mein raised platform par hi jaakar sote hain. Cliff par hi jaakar soyenge. Kahin upar jagah par jaakar soyenge. Wo neeche nahi jaakar sote. Kisi upar place par baithenge, kisi patthar par baithenge toh wahan jaakar soyenge. Aise nahi sote wo.
Okay ya phir ek kone mein jaayenge, den mein jaayenge aur wahan ghus ke soyenge chhote se room mein. Toh agar wo hum unko provide nahi kar rahe hain toh phir unko dikkat hogi. Wo biting karna chaalu karenge. Okay kyunki har ek movement se unki neend khul jaayegi aur neend khulti rahegi.
Jaise dog raat ko so liya toh sirf raat ka sona nahi chalta usko. Dogs zyada sote hain. 16-18 ghante tak sote hain dogs aur unko agar wo neend nahi milti hai toh wo stress mein aane lag jaate hain.
Aur ye dog agar agar din mein neeche hi so raha hai aur bahut zyada halchal hai aur ye dog agar sensitive hai toh uske andar stress increase ho raha hai aur wo biting mein convert hoga.
Okay toh raised platform kone ka bandha hua.
Tavisha
And crate bhi work kar sakta hai.
Sunny
Crate work kar sakta hai. Crate kya? Gufa. Jaise maine bataaya chhota sa kamra. Hai na? Chhote se kamre mein ab hum usko kaise mimic kar sakte hain? Chhote se, chhote se kamre ko kaise mimic kar sakte, chhote se kamre ko kaise mimic crate?
Tavisha
Crate.
Sunny
Chhote se room ko kaise mimic kar sakte hain? Crate. So that's how patthar ke upar baith ke sota hai nature mein toh hum kaise mimic kar sakte hain? Raised platform. Okay.
Tavisha
Okay. Thank you sir.
Sunny
Next Tavisha ji let's go. We are already past our time. Yes Tavisha ji bahut time ke baad dikhe aap welcome.
Tavisha
Haan, associative memory abhi jo aapne bataaya jo new changes hai usmein aur episodic memory mein kya farak hua phir?
Sunny
Ab nahi maine abhi waise waise emotional memory ke upar baat kari. Hai na?
Tavisha
Haan kyunki episodic memory aapne document share kiya tha. Aapne bola tha padh ke rakho toh maine padh hi liya tha. Toh mere doubts toh hai matlab usse related. Lekin wo baad mein karenge.
Lekin abhi usse matlab episodic memory maine jo samjha hai ki jaise past event koi hote hain jaise community dog ke aap pakad lijiye ki unke saath unko kisi ne maara toh matlab wo unko yaad reh jaata hai. Toh isn't it what aapne abhi jo bola ki wo thoda same hi.
Sunny
So jaise wo episodic memory abhi maine us samay bataaya tha thoda contradictive hai episodic memory. Hai na? Us par research chal rahi hai.
Uske andar bhi likha tha maine episodic memory ke upar ki thoda contradiction hai episode episodic memory mein ki wo aise yaad nahi rakh sakte, yaad nahi rakh paate ki hai na ye aisa episode meri zindagi mein kabhi aisa hua tha jaise human rakh paate hain.
Jaise human kaise rakh paata hai ki mere saath kisi ne is tareeke se baat kari thi. Okay na. Toh abhi is cheez ke upar abhi research chal rahi hai aur completely research baahar nahi hai. Kya ki ki dog aise episodes dimaag mein rakh sakte hain. Apni past ki baaton ko aise rakh sakte hain.
Kyunki thoda deep mein jaate hain past ki baatein yaad rakhne ke liye. Ya phir mere saath kuch aisa hua hai usme self awareness lagti hai. Aap ye sab cheezein tabhi kar sakte ho jab aapko self awareness hoti hai. Self awareness ka matlab kya hai? Ye main hoon, ye koi aur hai. Main ek dog hoon ya main ek human hoon.
Main is tareeke ka hoon. Wo dogs ke paas nahi hai. Self awareness. Dogs ke paas sirf aur sirf instincts hain. So hum iske baare mein aur baat karenge episodic memory ke baare mein. Main bhi iske baare mein aur padh raha hoon.
Kyunki just like observation se ye cheez main nahi seekh sakta ki episodic memory kaise hoti hai, dog ko kaise yaad rakhta hai.
Uske liye neuroscience lagti hai and I am still studying ki episodic memory dog ke dimaag mein kaise rehti hai aur kaise wo past ko remember kar sakte hain ya kar bhi sakte hain ya nahi kar sakte. Lekin jitni knowledge abhi hai, jitni research abhi hai humare paas wo past ko recall nahi kar sakte.
Recall nahi kar sakte ki mere saath jeevan mein aisa kuch hua tha jaise human kar sakte hain ki Tavisha ji ne mere saath aisi baat kari thi. Wo is tareeke se wo nahi kar sakte. Tavisha ji is equal to playfulness. Wo ye kar sakte hain. Getting a point andar andar a-andar dekh rahe ho.
Tavisha ji ki jo smell hai, Tavisha ji ki jo speech hai ya unki jo jis tareeke se shareer ka structure hai aur ye jo poora ka poora being hai is equal to playfulness. Wo ye kar sakte hain. Lekin Tavisha ji se ye association kab bani unko iska idea nahi hai.
Andar samajh andar samajh rahe ho isko is cheez ka episodic memory par main abhi padhai kar raha hoon toh main uske baare mein baad mein aapase aur baat karunga. Kaise kaam karta.
Tavisha
Haan, main wo question likh ke rakhti hoon. Phir hum baad mein baat karenge. Aur mera ek doosra question tha ki ye trancing kya hota hai?
Sunny
Kya? trans.
Tavisha
Bolte toh ye trancing matlab.
Sunny
Trancing.
Tavisha
Haan, maine ek video dekha tha. A-aapne kaha Instagram join kar lo. join karne ke baad kaafi saari cheezein wo ho rahi hain. Toh ek usme ek term tha trancing. Matlab ek video tha jisme Pitbull na table ke neeche hi tha aur ekdam slow chal raha tha. Toh usme wo trainer explain kar raha tha ki ye trancing hota hai.
Sunny
Share karo. Wo transmute actually transmute is like kaafi transmute like this dimaag ek zone mein chala jaata hai. Hai na? It's like zone mein chala jaata hai. Reality se gaayab ho jaata hai aur kahin aur hi hota hai. And aur kaafi joyful mood mein rehta hai. Usko trance bolte hain.
Trance music bhi aata hai aur Goa mein like drug culture se kaafi zyaada not drug, not just drug culture, spirituality mein bhi trance aata hai. So spirituality mein bhi trance ke baare mein baat, jo aap baat kar rahe ho na wo dimaag ka ek zone hota hai.
So, toh dimaag ka ek zone hota hai jisme reality khatam ho jaati hai aur dog ek, dog nahi dimaag ek euphoria mode mein chala jaata hai. Euphoria mode ki it's like wo ek joyful uske upar hai.
Usko trance zone bolte hain. Okay, trance zone bolte hain. Lekin aapko video share karna padega mere ko dekhne ke liye. Kyunki concept naya hai ki dog, dog trance, dog trance, trance zone mein hai. So, so that's- nahi main wo karti hoon abhi dhoondh ke karti hoon aaj hi. Kya?
Matlab yahan par log, log DMTs le rahe hain and spirituality ke different courses kar rahe hain. Ghanton meditation kar rahe hain to go in the trance zone and then dog apna wahin par hi table ke neeche mein aaya hua hai. So let's see kaisa hai. Okay? So please bhejega, wo video bhejega. Haan. Yeah. Haan. Cool hai.
That's- Thank you. That's it? Yeah. Haan. Okay, okay guys, let's, a, Vayu aapka koi question hai?
Vayu
A, yes.
Sunny
Mere do, do questions reh gaye mere. Wo bhi kaafi interesting the and wo call khatam hote hi main aapko just bataunga ki kya question, ek question bataunga bas. Lekin uske baare mein baad mein baat karenge. Yes, Vayu.
Vayu
Yeah, so main initially baat karne waala tha toh main ruk gaya. Toh mujhe na aapke bolne ke baad jo associative ka yeh samajh mein aaya ki humne aise bola tha ki 10 second waala rule tha. Okay? Lekin ki hum bas usme ek exception add kar rahe hain, jisme jo situation hai wo thoda a, kya bolte hain, zyaada deep hai.
Matlab uska emotional quotient zyaada lambe time ke liye kheencha gaya hai. Iske liye humne bas usme kiya hai ki hamesha 10 second rule ke chaloge toh wo emotional jo hai wo lose ho jaayega aur wahan par correction ho sakta tha, lekin aap kar nahi rahe ho. Toh 10 second rule. Toh ye humne- Yes.
Bas, hai na we are not contradicting, we are accept, adding exception.
Aur second baat mujhe hamesha click kar rahi thi jo maine try kiya tha ki Max jab doosre dog ke upar aggressive hota tha, lunge karta tha, bark karta tha, toh maine ki collar nikaal di thi.
Main aise karta tha, collar jaise hi nikaalunga toh uska abhi see, we are discussing our jo dog walker hai ya phir hum hai, hum unka pack member hai aur apni energy uske upar bahut matter karti hai. So it's a big thing ki wo apne saath chal raha hai on leash. Toh jaise- haan.
Kya, toh wo achaanak se aise peeche dekh ke wo ye ho gaya because the distance increase ho gaya, leash nikal gayi. Toh- haan. Energy is mattering a lot to him.
Sunny
Haan.
Vayu
Phir aapka jo example hai ki dog intense fight, toh usme main, mere dimaag mein ek triangle ban raha hai point A, B aur C. Dog mere- haan. Point A pe. B pe usne jaake doosre dog pe attack kar diya leash se chhoot ke.
Maine us- haan. Maine usko point, pehle main kya kar raha tha A aur B tha sirf. Toh B se maine aur A pe mere paas hi bitha diya, theek hai? But it's still in that state. Main usko la raha hoon, normal kar raha hoon. But lekin uske saath uska pack member bhi khada hai. Toh that- haan. Matter to the dog.
Aap jo bol rahe ho maine aise diagram create kiya A, B, C. B se maine waapas laaya, C pe wahan par aur main khud wahan pe ruk gaya.
Sunny
A pe, yeah.
Vayu
Haan, toh C pe.
Sunny
Yeah.
Vayu
Pehle dog, pehle hum movement restrict kar, movement restrict karne ke baad bhi calm down ho raha hai. Jo jis state se baahar aaya aur after hum bolte hain na thoda hosh mein aa ja. Phir tu aaspaas dekhega.
Sunny
Haan.
Vayu
Hosh mein aane ke baad- haan. Apne pack leader, pack member ko dekha jahan se wo apni energy drive kar raha hai ya phir jo bhi guidance de raha hai apne paas se energy ka. Toh usne dekha ki main waapas point A pe jaake ruka hai.
Toh woh phir wahan se bahar aane ke baad phir mere paas dekhne ke baad aap jo bol rahe ho, jo state of mind achieve hona chahiye aur jo uske liye situation set hona chahiye. Toh bas matlab mere dimaag mein aise diagram create hua ki this is what is happening. So we should not, uh, matlab usko time ke saath mat jodo.
But we are state of mind jahan se woh fight se alag hua, pehle uski body restrict hui, phir woh jiske paas directions ke liye dekh raha tha, woh usse door hai aur hum usko- haan. pahuncha rahe. Toh 1+1=2 ho raha hai that is what in that case. Toh aisa apan bol sakte hain.
Sunny
Yes, yes, yes. So see the contradiction toh hum lekar aaye. Contradiction pehle hum yeh lekar aaye ki humne sirf 10 se 15 second ka hum correction bolte the. So that is direct, direct contradiction ki hum apni cheez ko contradict kar rahe hain aur bol rahe hain ki nahi, sirf us pe, sirf yeh nahi hai.
Sirf 10 se pehle humne, humne absolute banaya hua tha is cheez ko 10 se 15 second, second ka. Ab hum bol rahe hain absolute, yeh poora woh nahi hai. Aapko emotions pe dhyaan, aapko emotions pe dhyaan dena hai. Toh agar dog abhi bhi emotionally kahin par engaged hai, aap us samay correction de sakte ho.
Lekin correction depend karta hai ki uske emotions kis tareeke ke. Agar, isliye bola sirf ek cheez pe dhyaan do, intense fight. Sirf aur sirf intense fight ke upar dhyaan do. Agar dog intense fight mein hai, object ja chuka hai aur abhi bhi woh emotion hai, usko bandho aur door hato.
Usse door hato, uske saath mat raho.
Vayu
Yes.
Sunny
Okay? That's how you are communicating ki this emotions is not acceptable.
Vayu
Okay.
Sunny
Pehle hum kya communicate kar rahe the? This behavior is not acceptable. Right now hum kya communicate kar rahe hain? This emotion is not acceptable. Okay? Kyunki emotion behavior, yeh mindset change hai.
Emotion behavior drive karta hai. Matlab emotion se behavior aata hai. Kyunki emotion se behavior aata hai. Okay, so that's hamara naya sochne ka tareeka hai and I will bring more strategies towards you taaki tumhe uska aur deep understanding hone lag jaaye ki kaise, kaise work kar raha hai, kaise work kar raha hai.
Kyunki mere kuch din puraani yeh mindset change hua hai dogs ko dekh-dekhkar. Yahan par female heat par, heat, heat pe thi toh us dauran meri bahut learning hui hai aur maine dekha ki dog kaise intense jaate hain aur kitne lambe time tak woh intense rehte hain.
Aur agar main us intensity ke beech mein ek lambe time mein unko correct kar raha hoon, that corrections are working. You know, that corrections are working.
So I was like contemplating ki kaise work ho raha hai, kaise cheezein ho rahi hai, kaise us cheez ko understand kar raha hai dog aur kaise baaki dogs samajh paa rahe hain is cheez ko. Then main samjha ki main directly emotions pe work kar raha hoon.
So jitne bhi baaki meri learning hai emotions ko lekar in human species also and baaki animal ke species ko, then thode dots connect hone lag gaye. Lekin still there are dots remaining.
So I am just giving you latest update ki there will be change in the our like hum kaise sochte hain, hum kaise dog ki strategies nikaal rahe hain. Okay, there will be changes. Strategies change ho ya na ho woh different matter karta hai. Hum kaise strategies par aa rahe hain woh zaroor change ho sakta hai.
Okay, kyunki humne emotions ko hum pehle priority emotions ko nahi de rahe the. Hum pehli priority associations ko de rahe the, associations ko de rahe the strategies create karne mein. Okay, but that is the change only. Okay. Yes, Kashish Bhatia ji last question.
Kashish
Sunny bhai, mere ko yeh tha ki ek agar dog ka ek action hai, ek type ka action hai jo humein nahi pasand hai aur woh alag-alag reason se aa raha hai.
Let's say agar koi cheezein destroy kar raha hai, kuch khaa raha hai ya furniture destroy kar raha hai. Ek reason ho gaya uska ki usko workout utna nahi mil raha hai agar active dog hai. Doosra reason ho gaya ki separation anxiety ka kuch reason ho sakta hai. Hai na?
Agar yeh chewing, biting ki cheez kar raha hai you know. Toh agar hum koi bhi ek tareeke se usko agar ya toh separation anxiety uska cure karte hain, woh cheez par work karte hain ya phir usko extra workout dete hain. Matlab dono cheez mein woh cheez kar hi raha hai woh.
Toh kya yeh chewing ka koi bhi ek cheez se matlab yeh khatam ho sakta hai kya? Ya usko doosri tarah.
Sunny
Nahi. So dekho jo chewing ka issue hota hai na sabse pehle dekho ki dog bore ho raha hai kya? Boredom hai kya? Humein figure out karna hota hai ki problem kya hai? Walks enough ho rahi hai kya uski? Ghar mein excitement kam hai kya?
Zyada hum excitement ke saath dog ke saath milte hain kya? Dog ke play sessions enough ho rahe hain kya? First of all we have to tick mark all the checklist. Okay, aur woh checklist kya hai? Walks poori ho rahi hai kya? Dogs achhi tareeke se, is tareeke ke behavior mein. Hai na?
Dog theek se hum unko play ke sessions de rahe hain kya? Ghar mein jo log usse milte hain woh excitement kam se mil rahe hain kya? Ya phir excitement zyada se mil rahe hain? Kyunki all these things matter.
Jab hum yeh saari- Sorry mera question thoda matlab main ya toh bata nahi paa raha hoon ya matlab mera kehna yeh hai ki ek scenario hai jahan par ek dog hai usko akele rakha hai room mein, theek hai.
Kashish
Aur peeche se aate hain, usko ek-aadh ghanta akele chhoda hai, peeche se aaya toh furniture usne chaba ke rakha hua hai, chew karke rakha hua hai. Doosre case mein usko enough workout bhi nahi mil raha hai. Usko ghar mein rakha hua hai.
Usko walk par nahi le gaye ya toh exercise nahi karwaate toh ghar mein sab damage karta hai.
Right? Ab mera yeh tha ki agar do mein se agar jo owner hai, pet parent hai woh koi bhi ek cheez par kaam karta hai. Let's say ki usko walk enough exercise enough karwane lagta hai toh usse kya separation anxiety wala jo chewing hai woh bhi band ho jaayega. Main aapko dono case mein check karna padega.
Sunny
Depend karta hai ki chewing habit ban chuki hai kya? Toh bahut se dogs mein chewing habit ban jaati hai aur bahut se dog apne aap ko calm down karne ka chewing hi tareeka samajh lete hain. Toh woh usko, usko hi nahi pata ki furniture woh chew kar sakta hai, nahi kar sakta.
Toh is dog ke saath jab hum bahar jaate hain toh humein unko leash par rakhna hota hai aur paas mein ek haddi deni hoti hai taaki woh us par chew kar sake. Humein aas-paas ki jitni bhi cheezein hoti hain na jis par woh chew kar sake woh hataani padti hai ya dog ko hataana padta hai us jagah se.
Kyunki maximum cases mein kya hota hai na dog ki habit ban chuki hoti hai chew karne ki.
So woh walk toh de raha hai usse kya hoga? Chewing ki habit ya chewing ki intensity down jaayegi. Lekin completely khatam ho jaayegi woh hum nahi bol sakte. Agar aapke walk- Iska jo solution kuch log dete hain ki vinegar spray karte hain furniture par yeh. Woh habit todne ke liye.
Kashish
Okay.
Sunny
Kis cheez ke liye? Habit todne ke liye, habit todne ke liye. Jab woh uski taraf ja raha hai, are yaar yeh kya hai? For example psychologist puraana-puraana woh tha, puraana ek psychologist tha aur isne bola main tumhari saari koi bhi tumhara cigarette ka nasha ho, main tumhara cigarette ka woh chhuda sakta hoon.
Toh bhai log pahunche uske paas cigarette ke woh chhudane ke liye German ka kahin tha. Toh usne unke haath par ek bracelet baandh diya aur jaise hi woh cigarette peene jaate the woh bracelet par current chhod de do.
Getting my point? Kyun? Kyun current chhodta tha? Ek strong woh dene ke liye ki cigarette ka matlab current hai. Uske baad se jab bhi woh log cigarette ka sochte toh unko current ka jhatka lagne lag jaata apne, apne andar hi. Woh kyun karta tha? Habit break karne ke liye. Vinegar kya hai? Jhatka.
Vinegar kya deta hai dog ko? Jhatka deta hai. Kisi ko bhi jhatka dega. Uski smell bhi aayegi, smell bhi aayegi. Woh kya karega? Habit break karega. Lekin- Sunny mera dog toh vinegar kha leta tha acche se. Arre yaar kya bataun yaar vinegar bhi shayad nakli milne lag gaya ho.
Lekin vinegar kha raha hai toh matlab art hai woh toh usmein. So just- nahi matlab ek se ek lekar aayi main alag-alag brand jisne jo bola sab matlab mere ghar mein poora vinegar hi bhar gaya tha. Woh dekhiye na yeh approach, yeh approach, yeh approach kya karayegi aapse?
Aapko har furniture par vinegar daalna hoga. Is par nahi hai toh doosre par jaakar khaayega. Doosre nahi teesre par jaakar khaayega. Lekin woh vinegar habit, iski understanding samjho. Vinegar habit break karne ke liye. Vinegar is not the magic. Vinegar is being use, hum use kar rahe vinegar ko kyun?
Habit break karne ke liye. Habit break karne ke liye hum doosri cheez bhi use kar sakte hain. For example usko ek aisi jagah par baandh diya jahan par woh kahin aur reach nahi kar sakta aur usko ek haddi de di chew karne ke liye. Ab uski habit kya ban rahi hai?
Jab bhi stress mein aayega, is gaddhe par jaakar baithega aur yeh bone khaayega. Abhi uski habit kya aayegi? Jab bhi stress karega, susu karega aur is furniture ko tod dega. Yeh habit bani hui hai. So hum change kya kar rahe hain? Uski habit change kar rahe hain.
Kashish
Maine kisi ko dekha tha Sunny bhai ki no ka command dog ko aata hai but agar aise time par chew kar raha hai no nahi sun raha hai toh unhone kuch food ke saath mein uska association kar diya tha.
Let's say neembu ho gaya ya karela ho gaya. Matlab jiska taste usko pasand nahi hai toh woh uske paas laaya toh woh use chhod de raha tha. Toh is this the right way to treat?
Sunny
Matlab yaar woh dekho ab woh human ke skills ke upar hai. Maine aapko kya bola ki jo bhi resources available hai hume usse communicate kar lena chahiye. So agar aap woh ab suppose woh aisi cheez kha raha hai jo usko harm kar sakti hai. So agar aap neembu laakar usse chhuda sakte ho toh do it na.
That's, that's the thing. Hai na? Woh do it kar lo us cheez ke liye. Lekin workout karo us cheez ke upar ki hum dog ko enough exercise de rahe hain, enough play sessions de rahe hain aur basic understanding la rahe hain dog psychology ki. Lekin jo resources hain calmly confidence ke saath woh use kar sakte ho.
Use kar sakte ho. So that's it's completely okay man completely okay. Agar woh harmful food kha raha hai toh. Yeah cool hai.
That's it guys aaj ke liye. Aur second question batata hoon. Second question kis cheez ke baare mein tha? Maine kya likha tha?
Speaker 8
Sorry mera thumbs up tha bahut der tak aur I guess mera hands up tha aur chala gaya. But mera itna lamba question nahi hai. I just want to share and exchange a question regarding the same emotional memory. Toh you know Dodo is a very sensitive and emotionally sort of emotional side pe zyada hai right?
Toh maine abhi recently yeh kiya ki in dono ko separately walk karna aana shuru kar diya. So is it possible knowingly or unknowingly usko yeh laga ki main jab jab bhi aisa woh karungi aur mujhe alag kar diya jaayega toh mujhko karna hi padega.
Sunny
Nahi pack power deta hai.
Speaker 8
Haan, woh apna, apna jitna bhi power hai she channels it from Pino.
Otherwise she is a very busy dog apna kaam se kaam rakhegi right?
Sunny
Pack power deta hai pack power. So agar pack mein ja rahe ho. Agar ek insecure dog hai aur woh pack mein ja raha hai he will behave more confidently.
Agar ek insecure dog hai aur woh pack mein ja raha hai toh he will behave he or she will behave, behave more confidently aur woh confidence reactivity ki taraf bhi ja sakta hai aur calmness ki taraf bhi ja sakta hai. Hai na?
Lekin pack, lekin pack nahi hai toh uski power kam ho jaati hai aur agar pack nahi hai uski power kam kam ho jaayegi toh woh more insecurity ki taraf bhi ja sakta hai low confidence ki taraf bhi ja sakta hai.
More insecurity se woh self defense bhi trigger ho sakta hai aur jo uski chhoti hai usse woh calm down bhi ho sakta hai. Getting my point main kya, kya, kya, kya bol raha hoon same.
Speaker 8
No, no I, I didn't put my question correctly. Jo abhi main inki retraining ki starting mein call pe baat kar rahi thi na toh Dodo ki retraining mein maine yeh kiya ki kyunki jagahon se loud noises se she is afraid of loud noises and everything aur woh usko emotionally bahut impact karta hai.
You can see in the eyes as you always say ise hai na ki aankhon mein dekho wala hai toh pata chalta hai kisi tareeqe ki log bhi tez baat karte hain toh bhi she doesn't like that right? Toh maine bhi recently maine kya kiya kyunki main dono ko ek saath nahi sambhal paa rahi thi.
They are quite heavy dogs toh maine Pino ko side pe kar diya aur Dodo ko introduce karaana shuru kiya us jagah se. Maine usme thodi positive reinforcements daali aur yeh sab kiya. Now I see ki Dodo walks nicely after thode time ke baad usko lagi Pino peeche hategi.
Abhi woh cheez usko jab samajh aa gaya hai toh she is doing good quite good. Woh apne aap us jagah chali jaati hai. Toh kya main yeh jaanna chahti hoon jo uske emotional memory pe yeh impact pada hoga.
Usko yeh laga ki agar main aisa nahi karungi toh Pino peeche main jahan se apni energy channelize kar rahi hoon, main jahan se apni power channelize kar rahi hoon, woh cheez hi mera pack hi peeche kheench liya gaya hai. Kyunki there is no Pino, there is no Prateek that's my husband it's just me and Dodo then.
Sunny
Yeah see woh completely is tareeqe se kaam nahi karega kyunki aap jaise aap completely focus kar paa rahe ho us training ke upar uske upar aur aapne continuously uske upar woh training kari jisse ek nayi association create ho gayi uski.
Speaker 8
Right.
Sunny
Obviously main aapko dog psychology ke baare mein yeh bata sakta hoon ki jab pack hota hai dog more powerful agar pack balance mein chal raha hai, control mein chal raha hai toh more power bahut powerful feel karta hai.
Us power mein woh react bhi kar sakta hai aur calm down bhi ho sakta hai. Jaise main aapko yeh explain kar raha hoon. Lekin aapke case mein kya ho raha hai ki aap jab usko apni usko jab training de rahe ho, focus karke ho, woh bhi matter karti hai.
Not just this thing pack hat gaya this thing sirf woh matter nahi karegi. Lekin jo aapne training di usko woh associations bhi matter karegi is poori ki poori equation mein. So aap woh bhi consider kar sakte ho.
Dog ko kya dog ke dimaag mein ek association bani ki aap us pe zyada focus kar rahe ho aur aap ek acchi tareeqe se usme aapne ek association create kari ki yahan par calmness hai, yahan par positive positivity hai. Phir uske baad jab doosre dogs bhi saath mein aa rahe hain toh woh carry ho rahi hai uske saath.
Lekin dog psychology perspective se pack dog ko power deta hai. Ek balanced pack, ek synchronized not balanced synchronized pack, synchronized pack dog synchronized pack dog ko power deta hai.
Wo power reactivity ki taraf bhi ja sakti hai aur calmness ki taraf bhi aa sakti hai. Getting my point? Haan. Okay na. Aur lekin wo aap aapke case mein aapne jo usko training di wo, wo pehla consideration hai. Uske baad ye pack ka consideration kar sakte ho. Okay.
Speaker 8
Haan.
Sunny
Yeah. Cool hai. That's it guys aaj ke liye, aaj ke liye itna hi. Aur next sawaal jo mera tha wo instincts ke upar tha aur instincts ke upar tha hum kaise instincts ko overpower kar sakte hain jo ki hum next session mein lenge. Lekin Sunday ko QnA rakh sakte hain.
Aap log kuch sawaal pooch sakte ho aur otherwise I will 10-15 minute ke liye I will tell you this overpower instincts ka cheez jo maine haal filhaal mein realize kari. Okay then that also I will tell you kaise overpower karte hain. Okay that's it guys aaj ke liye thank you so much for joining.
Bye, bye. Have a great day. Have a great weekend. Okay bye, bye.
Speaker 8
Thank you bye.
Sunny
Bye, bye.
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