Pro group call
Decoding tail wags and dog body language
- Wed 7 Oct 2026
- 1 hr 25 min
Kashish led a Pro member presentation on reading dog tail positions and body language across moods like happy, submissive, fearful, territorial, anxious and confident dogs. Members asked detailed follow-up questions involving real cases (community dog encounters, a Border Collie, a Doberman, a Labrador's arousal around other dogs, and tail docking), with Sunny Luthra adding context on arousal, instincts, breed influence, and neutering. The session emphasized not jumping to conclusions, observing the whole dog in context, and building deep knowledge before teaching others.</summary
Key points (6)
- Tail position and wag intensity reflect a dog's arousal level, not a fixed emotion, and must be read together with eyes, ears, grin and body posture.
- Different dog moods (happy, submissive, fearful, territorial, anxious, confident) have distinguishable but overlapping body language combinations.
- Breed instincts (e.g. herding in Border Collies, prey drive in Indies) shape how body language like slouching or tucked tails should be interpreted.
- Play drive and prey drive can look similar (fixation, slouching) and must be distinguished using context and subtle chest vibrations rather than tail or posture alone.
- Tail docking in puppyhood does not affect a dog's mental state or expression since pain receptors are not developed yet, but body language must then be read from the rest of the body.
- Before quoting research or teaching clients, a trainer should deeply study the topic and avoid jumping to conclusions from limited information, as illustrated by the Labrador arousal case and misleading breed-aggression studies.
- On the call
- Sunny, Kashish, Manya, Kashish Bhatia, Vaayu, Paresh, Ashida, speaker_6, Vaayujit
Decoding tail wags and dog body language
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Transcript
Hindi written in English letters. The audio is the record.
Sunny
The recording start hai and stage aapka hai aur start ho jaiye present karna Kashish.
Kashish
Okay. So hello everyone. So I have often heard people talk like woh dog toh bahut hi pyaar se baitha tha or suddenly usne meri taraf snap kar diya yaar ya woh dog toh bahut happy lag raha tha par phir usne mujhe bite kyon kiya? So which brought me to the selection of my topic which is the tales of dog.
Now a wagging or a non-wagging tail of a dog can tell us a lot about his mood. Of course, we have to keep in mind that, uh, we need to keep a check on his, uh, body postures like his eyes, his ears, his grin, his, uh, body ki, uh, us time distance kaisa hai.
So of course with tail we need to keep that in mind so that we don't make any mistakes.
Um, now I'd like to tell you that there can be, uh, hundreds and thousands of combinations of these body languages through which we get to know it. Uh, but respecting the time limit in my mind, I'll try to keep it short and crisp. Uh, and I'll be covering the most common, commonly heard tail wags.
So, uh, sorry, I don't have any PPT. I am the PPT. I'll be the body language, I'll be the ears. And I'm not wearing my specs today so that I-- you can see my eyes and, uh, you know, you can see how the dog reacts with his eyes. And, um, this will be our tale today. And just in case, uh, you know, we get to need it.
If I'm not able to explain you nicely, th-this will be our tale to explain you better, my broom today.
Okay, so to begin with, we'll start with our most commonly heard dog that is, uh, the happy dog, or as I call it, the happy chappy dog. So when you will encounter a happy dog, you'll often see a tail which is not totally up, na hi woh neeche rahegi.
It will be, uh, in, in the middle, like, uh, oopar se thoda sa peeche and it will be going like this or kaafi crazy. So I call it the wiper wipe or it will go all like three sixty degrees poora zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom. So a robotic wag. So that is how we get to know that the dog is in a happy mood.
But if we have to see its features so his eyes will be very sl-soft, like not like my, like mine.
So dog has eyes like this, so they have gloomy eye when they are looking at you and they have very soft body postures, unke, uh, kaan na toh aise peeche pinned hote hain, na hi aise middle mein hote hain, thoda aage rahenge and they will be very soft, unka jo grin hai, na hi woh bahut wide hoga, na hi woh bahut short hoga.
It will be like in the middle and there will be a little opening in the mouth. So if you see now, kaan aage hai, girth thoda sa open hai, eyes gloomy hai, like woh aapko ghoor nahi rahe hain but they are, you know, looking at you in a happy way.
Through their eyes you can get to know and tail is wagging on, uh, ravisiously. Now in these dogs, you do not really want to, you know, oh, go with these dogs like this. Because what happens, um, jab woh bahut zyada excitement mein pahunch jaaye, there is a possibility they might nip you.
You know, because even they don't know. So when they come, they are all bonkers. They come to you, they suddenly nip you and you go like, "Oh, oh, kya hua?" So, uh, that is our, um, happy chappy dog. So next we'll go to our, uh, submissive dogs.
So when we hear the word submissive dog, humein often lagta hai ek aisa slouchy dog jo aisa, aisa baitha hua hai. Haan, partially true hai. But if you have to observe a submissive dog carefully, then, uh, look at its tail.
It can be hanging very low, close to the body, thoda sa andar hai, zaroori nahi poora andar ho, but it will be mostly tucked in. Uski legs ke beech mein it will be tucked in. So it will be hanging little low aisa ya it will be tucked in.
So, uh, apart from the, uh, tail, if we talk about the eyes, so this is very interesting. The eyes will be go little like this and the girth will be very wide.
So it will come to you in an appeasement mode, jahan par uska tail tuck hoga, eyes chhoti ho jaayengi, like, you know, squeezed in and girth bahut wide hoga and the ears will be tucked back. You know, they-they-they pin back. So they'll be coming to you in a appeasement mode like, "Oh, I'm a good boy.
I'm a good boy. You can pat me. You can pat me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a happy boy. I'm a happy boy." Something like that. So, um, that for you is our, uh, submissive dog. Now, as I said, there can be combinations, a lot of combinations. So one combination can be, uh, a happy submissive dog.
So if you have to understand a happy submissive dog, think of a dog, uh, a puppy in your mind, maybe. A puppy who doesn't understand any bad right now in the world, you know? And that puppy comes and approaches you. So he comes, you know, uski bahut slouchy si body hoti hai and he comes slouching towards you. Yeah.
"Hi. Hello. Can you give me some food?" Maybe a stray if you can think of, you know. And suddenly that puppy realizes, "Oh, oh, oh, oh, you have a dog in your hand. Oh, okay." And then he'll immediately, you know, uh, reverse back, and he'll be on his belly.
Tail, you will realize, jab woh apni belly pe hoga, it will still be tucked. Toh agar yeh belly hai, woh tail tucked hai. And he'll try and make the other dog understand. The dogs are t- uh, always communicating. "Okay, I mean, no harm. I mean, no harm. I'm just here to appease you, you know? I mean no harm.
If I can get some food," maybe something like that, you know? So that is our combination of happy submissive dog. The moment aapka, uh, dog thoda sa usko, uh, spatial pressure hata ke agar side pe jaayega, the dog will be back. So now we have our, uh, happy dog, uh, submissive dog, a happy submissive dog.
So next we have our fearful dog. Ninety-nine or maybe, I don't really, um, you know, um, say this 99% of the time just to tell it, but let's say 90% of the time their ears are pinned back.
Fearful dog has a pinned back ears and, uh, uska, uh, uski aankhen wide hoti hai. It's like whale eyes. By whale eyes, I mean jab apko ye white portion dikh raha hai aankhon ka, that is whale eyes. So whale eyes hongi, eye- ears piche honge. There can be instances jab uske ears straight hon.
So if, if you have a dog jiske kaan upar rehte hai, toh it will be like this. Agar pinned back hai, toh it will be like that. Toh there is a combination of both you might see. Mostly they are pinned back because they are in fear, right? So, uh, kaan piche hai.
Unka, uh, agar if you have to see their, uh, mouth, it will be a little slightly open. Something like that. A little panting will be there.
If you have to, uh, observe their body, their body is like, imagine, uh, mummy-papa se dant padi. Theek hai, theek hai, theek hai, theek hai. So they're going like, "Okay, okay, okay." Unless they're in, in flight mode, they'll just reverse their body. "Okay, I just escape.
Okay, okay, I'll just escape." So, so, so they're going like this, "Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay." So in a fearful mood they are. Now, when we have to look at their tail, so we have a tail which is, um, like flat down, can be tucked, but that is hardly there. It's just down there. It's just there. That is it.
So agar ab abhi hum ye reverse kare, ears hai jo ki pinned back hai, aankhen hai jo ki wide open hai, and apka mouth hai jo halka sa khula hua hai, halki si panting hai, body posture hai whale eyes ke saath jo aise hai.
Agar flight mode mein ja raha hai, flea mode mein ja raha hai, I'm so sorry, toh aise, aise, aise ja raha hai. Now, how-- It, it looks quite similar to a submissive dog, right? So how do you understand ki woh submissive hai agar oth- uh, aur cheeze dekhni hai? So these dogs pace a lot. They'll be pacing here and there.
They'll be very vigilant. Aur unke agar, agar kaan pinned hai, then even then they'll be like, "Tak, tuk, tuk, what's happening? Ooh, bell baji. Ooh, koi aaya. Ooh, ab kya karna hai?" That for us is our, uh, fearful dog. Is that, like, uh, good enough? Are you, you guys able to understand? Right. Okay.
So next we'll go to our, uh, most heard of, territorial dogs. So, um, with territorial dogs, people are like, "Oh, darawana ho sakta hai." No, not, not at all.
Zaruri nahi hai. So first thing you need to notice in a territorial body i- uh, is puffed up. He means business, puffed up body. Uski kaan ekdam aage hai, straight, aur woh apki aankhon mein dekh raha hai like he means business. You know, ghoor raha hai, apki soul ke andar dekh raha hai.
That is a body posture of a territorial dog. Like, uh, he's not backing off. He's not going to back off unless, you know, he can be okay with it, but yeah, he means business. Ki kaun aaya hai, kya matlab hai dobara is ghar mein. So that is our, uh, territorial dog.
So if we have to see a territorial dog's, uh, tail, it's not totally curled up.
It's not down. It's in the middle, right up there. Unless you have a dog jiski curled, uh, tail hai, it's there. So, uh, that for us is our territorial dog. So next we'll move to, uh, anxious dogs, so, uh, full of adrenaline, right? Uh, agar apko apne samjha territorial dogs are all puffed up, this is their body.
So anxious dogs are somebody who will be, you know, back on their haunches. Not totally aise slouch nahi kar rahe, but they're back on their haunches. Thoda sa piche hai. And, um, they're quite moving always. Ki, " Kya ho raha hai? Kya ho raha hai? Kya ho raha hai?
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay." Their mind is everywhere, scattered.
"Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, abhi bell baji hai. Mujhe kya karna hai? Mujhe kya karna hai? Main piche aa ke khade hoon kya? Main idhar khade hoon kya?" They'll, they'll come, they'll keep coming to you. They'll keep nudging you. They'll keep asking for a- advice from you because they're anxious at the moment.
And, um, if you have to see, uh, their grin, it's, it's a wide grin, um, like, um, aisa, but there's a lot of panting. Like, like that. Not like, like we earlier saw, bada, bada grin hai, and it's, it's going like... That's an anxious dog. If you have to see its tail, it's, it's there. It's just hanging.
There can be a slight movement, but because of the adrenaline, the dog even, even the dog is not, uh, realizing it.
So, uh, that for us is our, uh, submissive dog. Now, there can be a combination of a submissive confident dog. Now, I'm not talking about a territorial dog, a confident dog, okay? A confident dog is not like some- uh, somebody who's going to, uh, terrorize, uh, over people or things, you know?
Um, you know, territorial, uh, dogs mein apko usually dikhega they're guarding, you know, they have guarding instincts over people, over resources, over food. Confident dogs might not often show it, like let's keep it simple to keep it simple.
A confident dog is somebody who's just, you know, there who knows his things. Usko baar-baar aakar aapse poochhne ki zaroorat nahi pad rahi. Aapko nudge kar ke zaroorat nahi pad, pad rahi hai.
That is our confident dog. You know, his tail is up there and he knows things. He knows ki life mein kya chal raha hai, kya karna hai mere ko. So there can be a combination of a confident, anxious dog. Now I have a confident, anxious dog.
When the bell rings, she goes like, "Okay, yeah, I know." And the moment you go like, "Accha theek hai, pat karun, nahi karun?" She's looking at you, but the moment she understands, "Okay, I want to tell you I mean no harm," she'll sit down, she'll paw you, and she'll guide you. That's a confident dog.
But the moment there is a snap, koi bhi aawaaz hai, kisi tareeqe ki fight ho gayi hai, kisi tareeqe ki banging noise hai, kisi tareeqe ki ek bahut thudding noise aayi, koi firecracker se something, she'll go into her anxious mode.
You might see a little vibrations there. Sometimes a lot of shivering is there. She's looking for her hideout. So that is a combination of an, uh, confident, anxious dog. Now, uh, there can be many other tails when you combine them with many other, uh, body postures.
You have to keep in mind, you look at their eyes, you look at their ears, you look at their grin, you look at the-- ye silhouette padti hai unke maathe pe, usko dekho, uska tail us time pe kahan ja raha hai. Kya poora oopar hai? Kya middle mein hai? Kya neeche hai? Hang kar raha hai, sirf hai. Wo kya chaah raha hai?
Wo pacing kar raha hai ya nahi kar raha? This is what you would like to see. Now, uh, just to end this, uh, uh, before ending this, I would like to tell you no dog is bad.
Not at all. Even if they are in this mood, th-these different moods, you d-never want to push them. Even if, you know, you have a dog who's very territorial or let's say sabse easy, the, the, the submissive dog, you don't want to push him to that limit jahan wo itna zyada submit ho jaaye ki he snaps back.
Ki kar toh raha hoon, kar toh raha hoon submit, kar toh raha hoon submit, aur kya karne ki, kya, kya zaroorat hai? So do not push the dog. Try and understand the dog. See what he is trying to tell you, what he's trying to communicate to you. See what he is trying and ask from you.
Is he trying to, to come to you and appease you? Is he trying to tell you, "Mind your business," you know, "Don't come close to me." You have to keep, keep your brains, your eyes over there, observe the dog and then take any next action.
And as I said, no dog is bad. Okay, here I rest my case. Thank you so much. I hope you enjoyed it and, uh, it was, uh, understandable enough. Thank you. You can ask your questions, please.
Sunny
So first of all, kaafi tough topic tha, Kashish. Ismein humein kaafi body language seekhani thi aur kaafi body language ke baare mein bataana tha aur kaafi bada topic bhi tha. Matlab like, uh, different, different tareeqe ki, uh, tails ki wag hoti hai, different, different intensities se hoti hai.
And ismein context bhi dekhna hota hai ki baaki poora dog kya, kya mehsoos kar raha hai. So mere paas aur bhi feedback hai, lekin main abhi baaki logon se chaahoonga ki wo apne sawaal poochein.
So everyone, please, uh, uh, ye session important isliye tha kyunki is session mein hum chaahte hain ki hum confidence develop karein kisi bhi topic ko rakhne ke liye.
So hum dog ke baare mein yahan par sab jude hue hain aur hum dog ke baare mein bolna seekhenge aur ek doosre ke saamne present karenge. So inhone present kiya aur kaafi ek tough topic tha and main chaahoonga ki aap log sawaal poochein inse.
Inko aur express karne ka mauka dein aur dekhte hain inko kitni knowledge ye baahar lekar aa sakti hain. Please ask questions, man. Kaun poochega pehle? Raise your hand. Yes, Manya, go ahead.
Manya
Yes. Uh, yes. Hi, Kashish.
Kashish
Hi, Manya.
Manya
So your explanation was very good. I have one question.
Kashish
Yes, please.
Manya
So if I take my dog, uh, for a walk and agar humein saamne community dogs mile, and if that dog is growling on us and barking on us, so but how do we understand ki what do they want exactly?
Kashish
So, um, um, agar-- kya ye aap ye already encounter kar chuke ho, Manya? Ya, um, you're just giving me an example?
Manya
No, I have enc-encountered this. Matlab- Okay. Uh, yeah, sometimes I do face this problem.
Kashish
Okay. Okay.
Manya
Yeah. Hmm.
Kashish
So, uh, jab aapne dog ko dekha, toh wo aapki taraf kis tareeqe se aa raha tha? Matlab if I have to give you example, kya wo aise aa raha tha like ya wo seedha lunging mode pe tha with a chaudi chaati ke ?
Manya
So there are two dogs. One is a male dog and one is a female. So the main-- male one comes sneaking. Matlab aise munh uska neeche hoga aur sneak karte hue aayega jaise he's trying to, you know, uh, the dogs when they see their prey, toh kaise wo sneak karke aate hain.
Kashish
Yeah.
Manya
And he comes ekdam chup karke and phir wo aakar... But since Betty is fine with male dogs, toh wo play mein chala jaata hai.
Kashish
Okay.
Manya
But, yeah. And the other- So he, he, he has a slouchy body, something slouchy- Haan.
Kashish
...like this and wo- Yeah. ...aapko dheere-dheere-dheere approach karta hai ya but slouchy body mein bhi thoda jaldi aa raha hota hai?
Manya
Yeah, so starting mein he'll first aise ekdam aise, uh, sneaky kaise hote hain, uh, matlab jab dogs apne prey ko dekh rahe hote hain, so how they are like, uh, stalking them.
Kashish
Right.
Manya
So waisa stalky behavior hai uska.
Kashish
Right.
Manya
So pehle wo aise dheere-dheere body movement karega, phir chup karke nazdeek aa jaayega.
Kashish
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Manya
Yeah. And the other dog, which is the female one, uh, she'll come slowly, slowly, but she'll keep an eye contact con-con-constantly on Betty and wo matlab uski bhi thodi, uh, like jo aage ka face hai, wo neeche rahegi body uski, matlab aise neeche se aur seedha wo dekh rahi hai aise, stare kar rahi hai and growl.
Kashish
Okay, okay. Toh jo male dog hai jab wo aise slouch karke aa raha hai toh first of all we need to keep in mind that he is an Indie dog. He has this prey drive. Humko hamesha breeds ko dimaag mein rakhna hai.
Toh uske liye uski breed bhi uske you know in his brain it's the breed you know uska uske instinct is are also working.
So when he is coming and slouching like this where I can see he is in a fearful submissive mode sort of like he is trying to approach Betty, but he is not totally sure and he is reaching out to Betty ki let's see Betty kaisa aage se communicate karti hai and when both of them communicate and they are okay you know toh Betty usko wo kyunki you said she he turns back right and wo play mode he turns back.
Toh Betty usko correction deti hai ki nahi mere paas aisa nahi chalega. So he goes into a submissive mode ki okay no, no harm you can, you can play with me, tu mere saath khel sakti hai. So it's like that. A-a and then the female dog. Toh female dog aati hai. Yeah.
Sunny
Ek cheez add karna chaahoonga ki aisa a-a bahut saare dogs aur prey drive se play ko initiate karte hain. Toh wo aisa nahi ki wo haan ki wo nervousness se aa raha hai. Bahut se bahut saare dogs seedha neeche baith jaayenge aur saamne ekdam focus se dekhenge kisi bhi- Yeah. Kisi bhi dog. Hai na?
So lekin wo prey ke liye nahi hai. Wo ek play ka part hai.
Kashish
Yeah, it's their instinct, right?
Sunny
A-haan matlab isko instinct bol lekin wo, wo prey ka part nahi hai.
Instincts bolo ya kuch bhi kaise bhi bolo, woh play ka part hai, play ka part hai. Matlab bahut se dogs mein aisa, aisa, aisa hota hai.
Zaroori nahi hai ki jo Manya bol rahi hai us dog mein aisa ho, lekin yeh, yeh cheez hoti hai ki woh play ke type, so dogs jo bade ho rahe hote hain, chhote hote hain na woh play ke time fight karna seekhte hain, wrestling seekhte hain ek doosre se.
So play unka ek bahut aur woh shikaar karna bhi play ke time hi seekhte hain. Matlab play ke through hi seekhte hain. A-aise pakadna hai, aise pakadna hai, aise chhupna hai, aise.
Toh yeh play ka part hai jismein dog aise chhupta hai aur dheere-dheere slouch karte hue dheere-dheere aata hai, aisa lagega woh shikaar karne aa raha hai aur bahut tezi se bhaagta hai a-us dog ki taraf dhappa karne ke liye, usko chhaati se aise karne ke liye.
Agar lekin us dog ne aise pakad liya, usko dekh liya tab ek game chaalu hoga ki is dog ko usko catch karna hoga.
Is dog ko jisne usko dekh liya aise karke ab woh usko catch karna start karegi aur woh jaise hi catch karne ka trigger hota hai woh bha-usko zoomie aa jaenge. Woh bhaagne lag jaega idhar-udhar, idhar-udhar, idhar-udhar. Himmat hai toh pakad ke dikha. Is zoomies woh activate kar deta hai.
Matlab agar is dog ko bhi zoomies aa raha hai uske baad toh usne zoomie activate kar di ki ab mere yeh meri skill hai zoomies ka. Tum mujhe pakad sakte ho kya? Toh game hai unka, game hai unka.
I don't know yeh dog aise kar raha hai ki nahi kar raha aur- Actually mein woh aata hai phir Betty ekdam aroused ho jaati hai and then woh bhi aroused ho jaata hai and phir dono aise- woh play hai.
Kashish
Yeah, it's a play.
Speaker 4
Play mein chale jaate hain. Yeah, right.
Sunny
Yeah. So yeh bahut interesting play hai inka. Very interesting play.
Kashish
I have a question on this, sorry a-to cut you, but Wolfie jab bed par baithi hoti hai so when Shiro comes from the other room, okay, toh Wolfie beds mein aise slouch karke she makes that contact.
So I always thought that Wolfie is going to attack Shiro, so I never let them be together. Sunna chahiye what, what is your recommendation?
Speaker 4
So she is- Yeah, yeah go ahead.
Kashish
She is laying low aise karke as if she is trying to hide herself aise jo a-army karte hain na like aise karke jaate hain like when they crawl and all. So she will be like this slouching very low and like looking at Shiro, you know from the door coming.
Speaker 4
Aur jab woh usko dekh rahi hai how are the eyes? Are they wide wake like- Focused, focused like. Okay.
Kashish
So she-she is fixated there. So again like Sunny said it's a prey, prey usko woh prey ki tarah dekh rahi hai and prey play mein jaane waali hai.
Speaker 4
So I should not- Zaroori nahi hai. Let them be together.
Kashish
A-like it's not necessarily it cannot be that.
I will take that.
Sunny
No, I think yeah, yeah. So dekho abhi jaise suppose aap kaise pata lagaate hain ki dog kis zone mein hai? Kyunki maine toh play drive mein, play drive mein bol diya ki woh play ki wajah se khel raha hai, lekin woh prey ke time bhi toh aisa karte hain.
Zaroori nahi hai woh prey, prey ke time- Yeah, because I have seen cats do this. Yeah. So agar dog ko humein figure out karna hai ki woh prey ki tarah kar raha hai nahi kar raha toh humein aankhon se neeche jaakar uske hothon ke yahan par dekhna hoga ki agar woh it's halka sa oopar hai kya?
Matlab general jis tareeqe se woh rehta hai wahan par kampan hai kya? There is some vibration is going on kya? So it's woh dog apne andar it's like they develop this kind of woh throttle hai na attack karne se pehle. Yeh during the prey this unke andar humein sunayi nahi deti.
We don't hear that growl, but in their chest there is a growling happening.
Get- So I can, I can, I can show you it's like No, not, not, no, not like this, not poora, sirf yahan side se hilta hai.
Kashish
Like mera woh unki tarah nahi kar pa raha, but yeah.
Sunny
Okay, okay. Toh par main dekh toh wahi bolunga na nahi aise nahi. Usko haan toh nahi bol sakta na. Kaisa bhi hone de. Haan, toh woh halka sa side, their side mein unka vibrate hota hai aur usse humein samajh mein aata hai ki andar woh growl chal rahi hai.
Agar tum aaspaas bed par bhi ho na toh you will feel that depend-depending on your sensitivity, you will feel that vibration coming out from their chest. So that is a prey drive. That is a prey drive. So if without that jaise jo play mein hota hai there is no vibration in their chest. It is just focus.
So woh focused hote hain in play drive as well jo focus ka point bol rahe ho fixated aur woh, woh prey ke time par bhi fixate hote hain.
So hum fixation se nahi samajh mein aa sakta ki dog is under prey or play drive. Getting the point what I am saying? Humein kaise pata laga sakte hain hum usko observe karke and check their snout. Uske snout par ya phir tumhe uske chest se vibration feel ho rahe hain kya like prey ke?
So a- iska dekhna hoga humein ki jab woh fixated hai toh uska aapko observe karna seekhna hoga ki apne dog ko hum lagaataar observe karte tab aapko changes pata chalenge chhote chhote. So you start observing your dog ki woh jab shaant hote hain. Yeh first lesson mein bhi agar aapne first module complete kar liya toh.
So usmein observation ke oopar bahut zyaada dhyaan diya hua hai aur woh wahin se wahi basics hai Srijana ji. Hai na? So hum jab observe karna seekhte hain dog ko tab hum yeh chhote chhote subtle changes figure pata laga sakte hain na otherwise pata kaise chalega?
Aapko kaise pata chalega ki bhai uska yeh, yeh bahut subtle way ho gaya na dekhne ke liye. Itna subtle way mein hum kaun dekhta hai na? Generally hum nahi dekhte lekin as a behaviorist we have to develop this ability to like unko subtle tareeqe se cheezein dekhne ka.
So ek play drive aur ek prey drive mein fixation same hota hai slouching same hoti hai. Toh is par hum completely nirbhar nahi karte in poori ki poori cheezon par. Hum context ko bhi gather karte hain aur phir hum yeh subtle cheezein bhi for, for example, jo Manya ka case tha usmein context kya tha?
Woh play karne lag gaye the. Toh there was an element to of play. Again toh hum kiski taraf zyaada jaenge? Towards play instincts ki taraf towards play drive ki tarah not towards prey. Toh hum figure out karne lagenge us, us, us cheez ko. Lekin yahan par humein kuch bhi nahi pata.
Srijana ke, Srijana ji ke case mein ki woh uske baad woh kya hua?
So wahan par hum we will diagnose zyaada karenge us cheez ko. Not directly conclusion nahi. We, hum diagnose zyaada karenge body language ko samjhenge. Okay? So very again jitne bhi tere tumhaare paas abhi question hai they, they were also like tough questions answer dene ke liye.
It was not easy ki it's a kyunki mere, mere khayal se jo bhi abhi humne baat kari woh bahut se logon ke liye nayi thi. Hai na like play drive and prey drive mein kaise antar hum figure out karte hain and that is why these discussions are for. Matlab kaise matlab pata kya chalega ki sikhaana kya hai? Bataana kya hai?
Infinite number of woh hai edu woh like data hai. Yeah next I think.
Speaker 5
Okay.
Sunny
Yeah, Paresh.
Kashish
Hi, Paresh.
Speaker 5
Great session. So my question is kya different dog breeds alag-alag different tail wag karte hain?
Aisa kuch bhi hota hai or it's just related to the animal or species instinct what we are seeing?
Kashish
So basically tail wags almost 99% same hi rahenge. It does depend on the mood and personality of the dog as well. So, so, so koi personality bahut hi zyada aap keh sakte ho extrovert hoti hai.
Speaker 5
Right.
Kashish
Koi bahut hi introvert dog hoti hai but woh aapko subtle signs hamesha dengi. Ya toh bahut loud signs honge ya bahut subtle signs honge they will give you subtle signs. Now where we mess up is like imagine ek dog ka tail hai woh halka wag de raha hai but apne ko nahi samajh aa raha hai. Right?
Toh aur yeh- So ultimately you are trying to say ki jo breeds hain uska kuch matter nahi karta.
Speaker 5
Woh kaisa bhi ho sakta hai but tail wagging is not related to dog breeds.
Kashish
Tail wagging is not related to dog breeds.
Speaker 5
Right. Haan matlab that's what you are trying to say no?
Kashish
No, I am trying- ek Pug hai uski tail wag aur ek German Shepherd ki tail wag.
Speaker 5
Yeh dono different nahi hogi because of breeds. Yeah, of course.
Kashish
Like ek Shih Tzu ko hum log hamesha look down kyon kar dete hain? Humein lagta hai arey mera chhota beta yeh toh pyaar kar raha hai but woh nahi hai. He is showing his personality. He is trying to show- So depends on their individual personality not on breed. Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 5
Okay. This I- unki personality, unki breed yeh dono cheezein we have to consider.
Kashish
We have to consider both the things we have to consider and we have to consider ki kya woh dog ek internal dog hai ek ya ek external dog hai ya ki extrovert hai ya phir introvert dog hai.
Subtle signs de raha hai ya loud signs de raha hai. You have to keep these things in mind.
Speaker 5
Got it. And one more question maine ek specific case dekha hai crush ki ek dog jab human se milta hai toh apni tail wag karta hai but wahi dog jab kisi aur dog se mil raha hota hai toh tail wag nahi karta.
Kashish
Yeah, so he is he can be a little fearful or anxious over there. He might be calculating abhi kya ho raha hai. Toh if you want me to understand better you will have to give me a little more of inputs ki uski aankhein ya uski grin kis tareeke se hoti hai.
The way I just told you right ki doorbell bajti hai, ek fearful dog hota hai woh kya karta hai? Anxious dog hota hai. Woh jaata hai achha, achha, achha. Jaayega, jaldi se jaayega, bell bajegi aur ek saamne se ek bahut assertive personality aa gayi.
Assertive personality aayi usko toh samajh hi nahi aaya yeh kya karna hai. Aaj tak toh mujhe sabko main ko dabaya hi tha. Ab kya karun? Toh mere paas waapas aayega. Apne owner ke paas waapas aayega. Nudge karega ki kya karna hai. Owner ke peeche khada ho jaayega.
So this is how we understand the personality, instincts and the breed. So breeds do matter, right? But usi se hi unki personalities, unki instinct yeh sab cheezein bhi nikal ke aati hai aur har dog ki apni apni ek personality hai.
Speaker 5
Perfect.
Kashish
Thank you.
Sunny
So, so ek aur cheez hai ki jaise like obviously jo dogs hote hain unki jo tail hoti hai matlab woh same tareeke se move hoti hai. But yeah jaise ek jaise woh boxers hain.
Kashish
Toh tail hi nahi hai.
Sunny
Haan, so jinki, jinki unki tail hata bhi di jaati hai agar hoti bhi toh hai toh.
So unki tail hata bhi di jaati hai aur aise hi bahut saare muscles waale dogs hain. So unki tail sirf looks ke liye nahi hataate the.
Unki tails isliye hata dete kyunki unki body mein itni zyada taakat thi matlab taakat hoti hai, itni zyada woh muscles hote hain ki woh bahut tezi se hilte hain aur jab woh bahut tezi se hilte hain toh unki poonchh break ho jaati hai. Unki poonchh ki haddi toot jaati hai because of that, that movement.
Toh uske liye bhi unko cut kiya matlab tail ko hata diya jaata tha. Lekin agar aapko tail wag ki ko samajhna hai ki tail wag ka kya hota hai. Toh tail wag ko aap samajh sakte ho ki tail wag is directly proportional to the arousal of the dog, it is nothing else.
Agar dog arouse nahi hai, woh kisi bhi level par nahi hai, woh poonchh nahi hilayega.
Agar dog ek high level par arouse hai toh woh poonchh hilayega. Woh high level par arousal excitement ka bhi ho sakta hai. Woh high level ka arou-arousal tension ka bhi ho sakta hai, frustration ka bhi ho sakta hai, anxiety ka bhi mix ho sakta hai uske andar. Lekin tail wag sab mein move hogi.
Toh excitement mein bhi tail wag aise hi move hogi aur an-anxiety mein bhi waise-waise hi move hogi. Agar aap body ko nahi dekhoge toh, sirf body ko mat dekho. Sirf agar tail ko dekhoge toh same tareeke ka movement hoga. A-a-poore uske, lekin woh movement completely dependent hoga ki dog ke andar arousal kitna hai.
Agar uske andar high arousal hai aur high tension hai toh woh dog ki tail bahut zyada move hogi. Uske hackles bhi up aa jaayenge aur woh aggression ki taraf aa jaayegi. So tail wag is just dog ka a kitna excited hai aur kitna excitement woh apna express kar raha hai.
So completely usse directly proportional hoti hai.
Kashish Bhatia
Sunny bhai maine yeh bhi suna hua hai. A-Ashida one second.
Speaker 7
Yeah, yeah sure.
Kashish Bhatia
A maine yeh bhi suna hai ki tail isliye kaat-te the kyunki pehle ke zamaane mein jo wars ho-wars hoti thi usmein knights aur jo warriors hote the woh log dog-dog ko na pakad paaye tail se isiliye- Haan, haan. Unki tail kaati gayi thi. Is that the right reason?
Sunny
Matlab bahut saare reason, sirf ek hi kaaran nahi hota, bahut saare kaaran hote hain. Matlab so ek woh bhi kaaran tha, unki muscles ka woh bhi kaaran tha aur itni kuch a u-unko, unko nuksaan bhi tha. Actually tail banaayi gayi thi geneticals ko save karne ke liye.
Lekin woh tail us doosre log bhi pakad sakte the toh woh bhi consider karenge us cheez ko. Matlab multiple kaaran hote hain, sirf ek kaaran nahi hoga. Matlab sense make kar raha hai actually jo tu kaaran bol raha hai exactly toh nahi pata history.
But sense make kar raha hai ki haan yaar woh poonchh pakad lenge uski toh phir kya hoga? Humne bahut saare videos bhi dekhe hain jismein dog ki poonchh pakad lete hain. Dog phir nihattha ho jaata hai. Kuch woh nahi aa paata. Agar tum uska pair pakadoge toh woh phir bhi tumhein aa sakta hai tumhaare paas.
Uski agar pair mein muscles zyada hai. Lekin agar poonchh pakadoge toh uske paas koi tareeka nahi hai tumhaare paas waapas aane ka. So poonchh ke disadvantage hai.
Kashish Bhatia
Right.
Sunny
War-war point of view se, so sense make kar raha hai. Yeah.
Speaker 7
Sunny sir yeh jo tails cut kar dete hain toh usse kya a dog ke behavior pe ya unki personality pe matlab like do they get depressed or like kuch hota hai unke oopar impact?
Sunny
Nahi unko, unko ek toh un humein dikkat aati hai unko samajhne ke liye ki woh kaun se state of mind hai. Poonchh unka ek bada state of mind hai humein yeh bataane ke liye ki andar kitna arousal hai. Hai na? Aur arousal ke saath unka mental state kya hai?
So poonchh ek uska woh hai. Hum uska shakl dekh ke bhi bata sakte hain aur uska shareer dekh ke bata sakte hain. Lekin poonchh bhi ek shareer ka hissa hai na. Jo a-jo behavior ke baare mein explain karta hai, uske andar kya chal raha hai.
So ek toh humein dikkat aati hai samajhne ke liye parents ko dikkat aati hai unko agar unko pata hi nahi samajhna toh obviously dikkat nahi hai. Lekin poonchh ke aur kya-kya kaam hote hain? Woh geneticals ko save karta hai. Wahan par makkhiyan, aaspass makkhiyan aur in sab cheezon ko nahi aane deta hai.
Dog ke andar balance set karta hai, yeh sab cheezein. Lekin usko mentally kuch issue nahi hoga. Mentally kuch issue nahi hoga. Physically bhi woh adapt kar jayenge us cheez ke liye.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
Karna chahiye woh main nahi bol raha ki karna chahiye aap dog ki poonchh katein, main woh nahi bol raha. Main just logically woh cheez bata raha hoon ki woh, woh ho jayega. Matlab- But that is only temporary.
Speaker 7
Jaise vocal cords ka bhi maine jaise pehle poocha tha aapko toh vocal board temporary rehta hai lekin they get adapted to it ki theek hai, nahi hai toh they get- Main see dekhiye main yeh nahi bol raha woh karna sahi baat hai, yeh sab baat hai.
Exactly.
Sunny
Main bas aapko yeh bata raha hoon ki dogs are amazing. Main bas yeh bol raha hoon.
Speaker 7
Haan.
Sunny
Dogs amazing hote hain. Woh, woh pakad ke nahi baithte ki hamare paas yeh nahi hai. That woh bhool, unko ya-actually unko pata hi nahi rehta ki unke paas yeh nahi hai. Ek yeh bhi ek alag matter hai yaar. Unko pata hi nahi hota ki unke paas woh cheez nahi hai. Unke paas jo hai so hai aur usmein woh adapt karte hain.
Yeh animal ka nature hai.
Speaker 7
Their way of expression and everything doesn't change like...
Sunny
No, so everything agar suppose kar lo, agar suppose kar lo aankh pe kuch ho gaya toh uske jeene ka woh tareeka badal lenge. Lekin it's like they keep on going. Obviously matlab agar suppose kar lo ek dog ki aankh thi aur aankh nahi hai, uski life pe fark padega na?
Depending on kya ja raha hai aur kitna us pe woh dependent tha. So us pe depend karta hai.
Speaker 7
No no jaise specifically tail ke liye. Agar jaise tail koi dog ki cut kar di toh usse uske way of expression mein ya usko kuch fark nahi padega.
Sunny
Kuch time ke liye- Humans ke liye ki we are not able to understand, but for the dog it doesn't change anything. So agar bachpan mein ki puppy mein kari toh usko kuch fark nahi padega. Agar chhota hai toh. Do mahine ka, ek dedh mahine ka, do mahine ka, teen mahine, do mahine ka toh phir fark nahi padega.
Uske baad usko dard bahu-dard hoga jab tak woh kati rahegi.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
Uske baad usme pain receptors aane lag jaate hain. Shuruat mein nahi rehte.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
Toh log shuruat mein hi kar dete hain puppy hood mein, toh usme unko kuch pata nahi chalta. Zero. Wahan pain receptors hi nahi hote. Unke pain receptors sirf unke chehre pe hote hain jab woh paida hote hain toh, yahan par face pe hote hain bas.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
So uske alawa kuch bhi woh aise feel nahi kar paate. Bahut kam, bahut minute unko feeling ka woh hota hai. Okay.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
So depend karta hai kab kar rahe hain. Agar bade ho ke kar rahe hain toh obviously unko dard hoga and unki kuch habit ho chuki hogi apni poonchh ki lekar.
Matlab jo bhi cheezein ho sakti hain toh kuch time ke liye asar padega unko us cheez ke liye. Lekin agar bachpan mein kiya toh na sir nahi, nahi asar padega.
Speaker 7
Par unke way of expression mein, unke excitement mein aur us sab mein kuch fark nahi padta. Like once kuch bhi nahi hota.
Sunny
Kuch bhi fark, kuch bhi zero, zero fark padega usse. Poonchh ki baat, agar hum poonchh ki baat kar rahe hain toh zero fark padega.
Speaker 7
Yeah, yeah only poonchh ki, haan.
Sunny
Haan only poonchh ki baat kar rahe toh zero.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
Yeah, unko koi woh nahi hai usse, poonchh se.
Speaker 7
Thanks.
Sunny
Okay. Who else? Yes, Vaayu question poochhiye Kashish se.
Vaayu
Yes. Hi Kashish, great way of presentation.
Speaker 7
Hi Vaayu, thank you so much.
Vaayu
And it was great. So actually initially long back matlab maine bhi socha tha tails wale topic pe jab apna yeh presentation start hue the. So I had read about it thoda. So I had some research and then I also observed one golden retriever in my society.
Speaker 7
Yeah.
Vaayu
Uske alag-alag situations mein tail wag maine observe kiye the. So initially woh poora aise Happy go lucky tha. Lekin aur jab woh Max ko mila toh Max ne usko kaafi corrections diye toh tabhi maine uske tail wag mein kuch changes dekhe the.
Toh lekin abhi topic se related when Manya asked you aur abhi jo Sunny ne explain kiya uske basis par maine ek question socha tha toh maine chat box mein daala hai. So how do you decode Border Collie's slouched body, focused eyes and tucked in tail?
Because abhi Manya ke example mein you spoke about slouched body, focused eyes aur tucked in tail. Toh phir Border Collie ke context mein how would you decode it?
Kashish
So a Border Collie slouched body, focused eye, tucked in tail. Okay, this Border Collie’s going to- Border Collie ki herding instincts hoti hai.
We all know that right? Jab woh apni body slouch kar raha hai you know his- uski focused eyes of course he is like you have mentioned it there focusing so woh apni woh poori herd ko dekh raha hai.
Zaroori nahi hai herd ko dekh raha hai Border Collie mein woh instinct aa jaati hai toh woh otherwise bhi yeh wala present kar sakte hain aapke aage. Tucked tail of course they tuck their tail because tail humein motion- dogs ko motions dene mein bhi help karti hai kidhar jaana hai kidhar nahi.
But this in this case and yeah he is going for chasing. He is going for chasing. He is not going for attack. Yeah, if he would have been going for attack slouch body nahi hoti grin mein thoda sa aisa aata.
Now they can be happy grin as well. But till where I can understand correct me wherever I have left anything Sunny but slouched body, focused eye, tucked in tail. Yeah he is going for herding instincts.
Vaayu
Okay, okay so because naturally what is happening is humans are denoting tucked in tail, slouched body ya phir lower position always with ki woh afraid hai ya phir not sure. But- Yeah. In Border Collies we have seen ki they are the most sure and confident.
Kashish
Right.
Vaayu
When they are focusing this tucked in tail so tail is important part jahan par maine dekha.
Kashish
Yes, sorry. So as I said na there can be a thousands and you know hundreds and thousands of combinations so I have just kept here five.
So if we keep decoding there will be a lot of- if I have to put ek tails par hi ya sirf body language ko unke saath include karke ek agar mujhe banana ho so it will be a very long full-fledged topic. I you know about the topics jo mujhe lagta hai mostly logon ke dimaag mein aate hain as per me.
Vaayu
So we can say that it can change as per the breed or as per the instinct as well so there is no specific rule, right?
Kashish
Yes, yes. If a breed and his personality is meant to do something right or- So we need to consider that as well. Working breed hai, herding breed hai unmein aapko inke thode different dikh jaate hain ki herding ke time par bhaagta hai, baithta hai, bhaagta hai, baithta hai. Usko cover karta hai ek circle mein right.
Toh woh wale instincts bhi aate hain.
Wo instinct ek Border Collie hai like relative of mine has that Border Collie so she does portray that her name is Sky. So Sky does portray that even in play. During play she goes like ek ball hai wo ball ke peeche bhagegi slouch karegi, baithegi, phir idhar se jayegi, baithegi.
Wo apni balls la-la ke ek jagah retrieve karti hai.
Vaayu
And when Sunny spoke about this Doberman thing so I also wanted to ask ki abhi unke tails toh hai nahi lekin chhoti si bas gayi. Toh phir as a behaviorist or as a client hum unko kaise sikhayein ki is tail ko kaise decode karein?
Aur usme yeh question tha ki do you believe ki unki tail chhoti hone ke kaaran when they are meeting dog to dog or dog to human unke fight ke confrontation zyada hue and that is also somewhere a reason ki in breeds ko aggressive breeds maana gaya hai, zyada attacks ke liye maana gaya hai.
Kashish
I don't- Doberman ke case mein toh I can definitely say they are the sweetest I have ever seen. But this is my and Dobermans are very sweet. But tail se koi matlab nahi pad raha hai. Ab agar hamare paas tail nahi hai toh hum next best cheez kya dekh sakte hain? Hum uski body language dekh sakte hain.
Hum uski grin dekh sakte hain. Hum uska munh dekh sakte hain. Sunny mentioned a very nice thing ki uske yahan se jaws hum yahan dekh sakte hain. Hum uski ears dekh sakte hain.
Hum uski aankhein dekh rahe hain wide ho rahi hai aur wo wide mein bhi aise jayegi Vayu like just to explain you veil eye ho rahi hai, wo veil eye mein stare ho raha hai ya wo veil eye mein appeasement hai.
You know appeasement mere chehre mein munh par aa rahi hai but uske ek- happy Max is sitting in front of you aur uski aankhon mein appeasement hai ya khushi hai toh uski gloomy eyes ho jaati hai na.
Toh waisa wala hai badi aankhein but wo wide portion itna zyada nahi hota. But when he is like literally serious toh ya he is in a fearful mood tab wo aankhein badi-badi hoti hai aur badi-badi hoti hai. Toh in that case we have to- unki bhi poonch becharon ki hil toh rahi hai na.
Ab aise French Bulldog hai uski toh curled up hai ya pug hai uski toh curled up hai. But even they portray right. But then we have to in such cases pay more focus towards the body. The body stance, the ears, the eyes and the grins and there are different things unka tapping, unka chalna. Dheere chal rahe hain.
A fearful dog would be approaching thoda dheere but Border Collie ke case mein aisa nahi hoga. Wo dheere aaya lekin wo slouch kar raha hai. It's the herding instincts. So we have to keep in mind the instinct and dog ka khud ka personality bhi, uski breed.
Vaayu
Aisa bhi keh sakte hain ki agar tail nahi hai toh thoda challenging rahega decode karne ke liye. Like because tail ke saath toh we are also saying ki we need to decode the entire body. Without tail also we are saying we need to decode the entire body.
But as the tail itself is so much toh then bhi challenging ho sakta hai and that can also lead to jo maine last wala point bola right.
Kashish
Well initially it will be when you keep learning like this was the most I will tell you something. Okay, I will tell you all this was the most Sunny knows this.
This was the most hard thing for me all over this when I was studying body language and I took this challenge to explain tails and body language to understand jitna meri learning abhi tak hui hai to give it to you all. Ab tail nahi hai doesn't really matter usko matter nahi kar raha apne ko bhi nahi karna chahiye.
Body will give it to you a lot. Body in itself uska stance uski aankhen will give it to you ki usko abhi kya chahiye with time of course time ke saath saath saath saath apne ko samajh aane lag jayega ki ye kutta kidhar jaane wala hai, kya karne wala hai. Woh aankhon se hi padh loge tum ki bhai ye gusse mein hai.
Bhai abhi to kuch hone wala hai.
Sunny
But but sawal but sawal ye tha ki hard ho jayega kya? To yeah obviously hard ho jayega.
Kashish
I did say ki thoda.
Sunny
Agar if you if you matlab it's not it's the question is not ki impossible ho jayega kya? Haina the question ki obviously agar hum koi bhi data hamare jo hume madad kar sakta tha aur woh hum apne usme se hata dete the hata dete the to obviously uske alawa yeah matlab it will create some friction karne ke liye.
Lekin ek cheez samjho wahan par aur woh hai border collie ke case mein. Border collie jab tum dekho border collie ko tumne dekha jaise woh herding karne jaata hai toh kya kya hota hai?
Matlab it's like tail tu herding ke baare mein baat kar raha tha, Vaayujit uska ki herding ke time par woh chhote ho jaate hain, ekdam chhote ho jaate hain. Unki pooch ekdam andar chali jaati hai haina lekin woh aise kyon kar rahe hain? Woh toh herding seedha khade hoke bhi kar sakte hain na.
Herding woh seedha khada hoke bhi kar sakte hain na. Woh niche kyon jhuk rahe hain?
So jab dog niche jhukta hai aur fixated hota hai toh usko tum imagine kar sakte ho ek energy but from a laser perspective laser perspective theek hai na ki ek energy energy woh completely focused hai but woh laser ki tarah hai because woh bahut chhoti hai. Ek chhota lens samajh lo usme se energy pass ho rahi hai.
To jab border collie jab border collie aise hote hain na aur ya phir koi play mein tum doosre dogs dekhoge.
Woh aise ho rahe hain aur woh tumhe fixated lag rahe hain. Woh laser focused ho rahe hain. So jab woh jab khaaskar jo herding breeds herding dogs hote hain na unko laser focus kyon hona hona hota hai? Bohot hi minutely herd ko idhar udhar karna hota hai. Bohot bada herd hota hai.
So agar woh agar woh laser focused nahi hai aur woh phaile hue hain pura herd ittar bittar ho jayega. Pura herd ittar bittar ho jayega. Matlab imagine karo us cheez ko agar woh phaila hua aur energy aisi hi jaari hai. Ek herd idhar bhaag gaya, ek herd idhar bhaag gaya. Do divide ho gaya us cheez us cheez ke upar.
Lekin woh laser focus rakhte hain ek ek kone par. So that's why woh chhota chhote ho jaate hain.
Vaayu
Aur iske baare mein maine ek interesting fact padha tha. Jaise hum bolte hain ki herd mentality we say it because herd mein aisa rehta hai. Ek ne jo follow kiya baaki ke uske piche chal dete hain.
To aise bataya gaya ki amongst all the breeds border collie ne ek sabse plus point develop kiya hai ki uski intimidating eyes which other breeds mostly do not have.
To woh eyes se hi itna intimidate karta hai jisme usne dekha aur usko jisne dekh liya to usko message wahi se pahunch jaata hai aur baaki ka kaam phir woh body language se kar leta hai.
Sunny
Yeah matlab woh focus see woh development to focus ke breed ka propagation focus perspective se hua focus perspective. Phir nature ne unko unki sharir mein woh sab cheeze di. Unki body athletic kar di. Unki aankhon mein is tarike se de diya ki woh unka jo focus hai aur thoda magnify ho sake.
But woh pura ka pura breed like focus based hai. So they are very highly focused breed aur woh focus se hi apna matlab unki need ho jaati hai.
To isliye agar border collie ko ghar mein lekar aate hain aur usko focus job nahi dete anxiety ki it's like tumhe biggest anxiety ke cases milenge border collie aur ye Indies mein bhi hoga bahut rarely lekin phir bhi Indies bhi crossed hai border collie se.
India mein kidhar se aaye itne saare Indies border collie se crossed? Woh ek Pune mein bahut hai border collie.
Vaayu
Black and white wale and Aussie Shepherd types.
Sunny
Aur sharir bhi unka waisa hi hai. Pura ka pura border collie ke saath. So Pune mein bahut hai. Humne bahut border collie ke cross dekhe. Main woh toh breeds ke woh dekhe aur unke andar features bhi waise ab woh gharon mein pahunch jayenge aur unko phir wahan par nahi milta. To aise cases aate hain.
Okay so that's border collie is amazing breed aur woh kaafi ek aur cheez hai jab hum bolte hain ki jaise for example Doberman ke baare mein bola ki Doberman sabse sweetest hote hain.
So as like Doberman bahut aggressive bhi ho sakte hain. They just not not not just sweetest aur Doberman ki bite power bahut zyada hoti hai. So jo damage hota hai na woh bahut zyada hota hai.
Suppose kar lo ek baccha aapko aake aise maar raha hai aur ek phir adult aake aapko aise maar raha hai to bacche ka woh nahi aayega ki baccha violent hai. Kyunki maarte sabse zyada bacche hi honge. Matlab sab bacche kitne peete rehte hain sabko kind of thing itna bada thodi peetega insaan haina.
So bacche hi maarte rehte hain lekin unka thodi naam aata hai because jo damage hai woh uska woh dekha jaata hai. So Doberman ka, Rottweilers ka inka damage bahut zyada hai, bahut zyada hai. So aur jo pooch ke vajeh se tumne issue bola pooch again woh communication ka part hai.
Again communication ka part hai lekin woh zyada ghata insaan ko hai usko samajhne ke liye.
Dog ko itna samajhne ka woh problem nahi hai usse. Matlab woh energy first hai dog apne ek doosre se.
Vaayu
Thank you Sunny and Kashish iske baad aur ek question.
Kashish
Yeah I read it, I read it. So yeah four week it is three to four weeks and ye tail wag tabhi develop hoti jaise tab tak unko samajh aane lag jaata hai na how to interact with their pack. To woh interaction ke liye that tail wag is ki now I am submitting in front of you. Now I am appeasing you.
Now I am asking for something from you. So it's it's the same. It's three to four weeks I guess.
Vaayu
Okay and as we say ki dogs evolved from wolves.
Kashish
Yeah.
Vaayu
Okay mujhe yaad hai Sunny ne bola tha ki dogs have developed this thing eye wala thing jo eyebrows ye karne ka human ko usse ye karte hain recognize karte hain.
To then usse mujhe aur ek click hua. We are speaking about the eyes jis dog ne evolution kiya. What about the tail thing ki wolf ke pup ko tail wagging kab seekhte hain?
Kashish
Three to four weeks.
Vaayu
Sure.
Kashish
Sure, sure.
Sunny
Tu ne kya padha hai?
Kashish
Maine ki hai.
Vaayu
Ve karte hi nahi hai tail wag.
Sunny
Haan.
Vaayu
Just like they haven't evolved with the I think, I think they haven't evolved with the tail wag as well.
Sunny
Yeah. Lekin tail wags toh dikhti hai bahut saare wolves mein.
Vaayu
Just like the dogs mostly like thoda sa but communication ka most important jaise dog mein humko pata hai aisa matlab ye, aisa matlab ye, aisa matlab ye. To wolves mein utna evolve nahi hua hai. Thoda sa ho sakta hai kyunki woh ek body ka part hai.
Woh for sure hilegi lekin it's not crisp and sharp communication ka means jaise Border Collie abhi bataya humne ya phir jo bhi hai to waisa wolves mein utna develop nahi hua eyebrows ke saath mein.
To that's what I read.
Kashish
Definitely.
Sunny
I think study karni chahiye.
Vaayu
One last question jis jo maine retriever ke baare mein bola tha, jisko maine observe kiya tha to uske baad mujhe yeh term dikha tha. Theek hai. What is lateral asymmetry in a dog's tail wag first? What is its relation with hemispheric brain dominance? And last one can you give- I will get back to you.
State of kyunki mujhe main-main bolta hoon.
Sunny
Kaise I will get back to you bol de.
Vaayu
Maine ye kyun padha tha I will tell you, I will tell you ye maine ye kyun padha tha kyunki mujhe na aise dikha information A aur matlab one aur point two ke beech mein there is one point five. To ye jo one point five hai na jahan par hum log dhyan hi nahi de rahe.
To ye jo point hai ye usme ka point five wala beech ka part hai.
To hemispheric- Tail wag bahut interesting, interesting topic hai aur tail wag ke upar I think humein assets bhi generate karne chahiye like photos, videos and doosre dogs ke ye sab cheezon ke liye.
Sunny
Bahut interesting subject hai aur bahut sirf-sirf dogs mein nahi wolves ko bhi like we have to hum cover karna chahiye humein. Ki wolves kaise karte hain, unka kya hai aur dogs mein kya antar hai?
Vaayu
So I will give you why. Sorry, sorry. I will give you the why maine ye question kyun generate kiya tha? Maine kyun search kiya tha? Kyunki Leo mujhe dikha tha jab woh human ko mil raha hai to uski tail more right side hil rahi thi. Lekin hilne ka ek momentum rehta hai. Abhi waapas observe karna next time. Theek hai.
Hum isko bolte hain ki wagging of tail. Lekin one, two, three, four, five. Ye ho gaya left side ka. Phir one, two jo jis side par woh dominant wag kar raha hai to maine woh uske saath observe kiya.
Jab woh Max ke saath aaya uska wag tha neeche baith ke jhuk ke slouch karke woh wag left taraf tha. Lekin jab hum log aaye usse mile to woh mostly aisa-aisa aur right ki taraf zyada hit kar raha tha.
Kashish
Shall tell you something, even my husband talks about this right and left wag a lot and I have never observed any such thing frankly.
Vaayu
So after that maine ye Google kiya tha to it's called left biased and right biased.
Kashish
Right biased, yes.
Vaayu
Aur ye hemispheric brain dominance.
Kashish
Love and dominance, yes.
Sunny
Yeah so actually like for example ismein ek loophole hai. For example agar dog ki pooch aise move hone lag gayi to woh left se right ja rahi hai, right se left ja rahi hai. Matlab like.
Vaayu
Abhi dekho Sunny subah maine Brownie ko observe kiya.
Sunny
Lekin, lekin main iska, iska aage ka batata hoon.
Woh actually aisa nahi hai. Usme tumhe observe karna hoga ki left mein zyada hai aur right mein kam hai. It's not ki left, it's not ki left-right, left-right pata kaise chalega? Hai na? Lekin- Just example.
Vaayu
Sorry aapka. Haan. Sorry to interrupt. Subah ek example maine live dekha. Maine bas leash utha ke doosri aur jagah rakhna chaahi to Brownie ne right side par uski tail move ho rahi thi. Iske pehle maine like kaafi der observe nahi kiya tha. Lekin woh bolte hain na hum log hit kar rahe hain.
It is wagging but right, right, right. Lekin jab maine uske paas aise dekha ki matlab kuch nahi bola maine shant tha. Usko thoda sa darr gayi aur woh thoda sa aise peeche ho gayi aur neeche baith gayi. To jab woh baithi to woh left, left, left hit karne lagi. Tabhi woh hil rahi thi.
She was unsure ki main kya kar raha hoon, kya bol raha hoon.
Lekin dono bhi direction alag-alag the. Toh woh ek part aur maine retriever ka bhi observe kiya tha. Toh like did you by chance come across this term?
Kashish
See I have but I have tried and observed it. I have never ever yeh left aur right wala mere saath mere dogs mein kabhi nahi hua. But jaise ki tumne kaha ki Brownie phir baith gayi aur ek hi taraf ho rahi thi. Woh unsure thi. Woh unsure thi. She was looking for you ki abhi kya karna hai.
So unsurety mein usko khud ko nahi pata. It's, it's just her hormones. Usko khud ko nahi pata kai baar. It's, it's a possibility again Vayojit. Usko khud ko bhi nahi pata ki woh tail wag ho bhi rahi hai ki kai baar nahi ho rahi hai. Ki abhi mujhse kya chahiye Vayu ko. You know there can be that chance too.
So again as I said ki bahut saare combinations ho sakte hain.
Agar aadon ke baare mein toh mujhko bhi nahi pata hai. Like if there are thousand so I might only know about 50 right? So this, this one the lateral asymmetry was amazing one. My husband asked me this question a lot of time. I have not observed it.
Vaayu
Toh matlab jaise thoda sa main bas mera point hua tha. Aapne jaise bola ki she is not sure. Ismein kya hota hai na.
Kashish
No who is not sure?
Vaayu
You said the Brownie is not sure.
Kashish
Oh because you- About the woman and what she is feeling woh barabar parallel ja raha hai.
Vaayu
If it is moving to the left, left, left it is negative impact and it is right, right, right it is more of positive thing or feeling.
Lekin brain mein ulta wiring hai. If it is moving towards the left aapke brain ke amygdala ka jo right part hai woh us baat ko le raha hai positive cheez ko. Jab woh right side par le raha hai toh woh left side par move kar raha hai.
Aur jab woh left side se soch raha hai which is positive tab woh right side par tail wag kar raha hai. Woh opposite connection hai aur uska ek meaning hai.
Sunny
But ismein ek loophole hai. Matlab aur ismein matlab ismein ek loophole hai. Loophole yeh hai ki while left is like bad and right is good matlab woh right kar raha hai toh bura bura hai and left kar raha hai toh woh stress mein why?
Vaayu
I think instincts help us.
Sunny
I will get back to you.
Vaayu
Yeah, mere ko bhi deep mein jaana hai. Maine Leo ko dekhke- There will be yeah so there always will be kind of thing toh we have to ask these questions.
Yeah.
Sunny
Obviously I came across all these things. Haan na so I came across all these things but why?
Matlab it's not ki toh these so we have to it's toh phir samajh mein aaya it's not just the ki tail ke movement it's context matters man it's a context matters aur poora context, poora context matter karta hai aur poora dog ka context matter karta hai, uski body language ka context matter karta hai.
So aur ek aur cheez bolunga apne poore educational material mein agar tum kisi se baat bhi kar rahe ho ya phir kisi ko bhi dog ke baare mein bata rahe ho na jitna layman term rakhoge utna hi tumhari authority increase hogi. So agar lekin tum yeh terms use karoge it's lateral asymmetry. Hai na?
Lateral asymmetry tum agar use karoge ya phir hemispheric brain dominance tum use karoge who will understand this thing?
Who will understand this thing? So aur hum kya hum kya academic mein ja rahe hain kahin par is cheez ke liye?
So- My point is ki when we are learning ok we are learning amygdala and all these are scientific terms toh waise toh humko bhi nahi samajhte woh terms kya hai bahut difficult hai but when we are learning as a behaviorist on this call so apne ko scientific term jo hai exist karte usse hi baatein karenge then we as per Kashish she will break it down to left tail wag, right tail wag.
Vaayu
Why just break it down to left bias tail right bias usmein ek bias hai. Toh client ko obviously hum log is terms mein toh nahi bata sakte lekin when we are learning here I think humko scientific term se hi andar drive in like deep down jaana chahiye.
So that's why I mere paas initial iske simple terms hai left wag right wag woh maine likha hai. Lekin yeh jo hai iske liye jaanboojh ke maine diya hai ki if we Google this or go inside then only we will able to catch the exact experiments aur jo bhi proven hai woh sab cheez.
So that's why initially maine yahan pe exact terms- Haan matlab, haan matlab agar, haan matlab agar apan ko dekhna hai.
Sunny
Dekho for example agar humein is tareeqe se jaise scientific tareeqe se jaana hai sab cheez toh uski process hi woh degi jaise suppose kar le tere ko lateral asymmetry ka paper mila. Toh us poore experiment ka paper toh hum sirf title ya paragraph padh ke nahi hatenge.
Hum poore us cheez ko padhenge kitna kya research ki gayi thi aur us research mein kaun se dogs choose kare gaye the. Tumhein pata hai breed ki, breed ki study hui thi kaun si breed aggressive hai kaun si nahi hai. Paper padha kisi ne? Kisi ne uske baare mein suna hai? Study hui research hua uske numbers aaye.
Kisi ne, kisi ne suna is cheez ke baare mein? Kisi ne us paper ke baare mein, us paper mein pata hai kya? Us paper mein dog ka environment matter ko consider hi nahi kiya. Dog kis environment se aata hai usko consider hi nahi kiya gaya zero us poore research paper mein.
Agar aap sirf us research paper ka upar ka paragraph padh loge toh aapko kya lagega? Doberman aur yeh aggressive hote hain. Wahi toh wahin se toh mentality aa rahi hai.
So that's us poore paper mein there was koi kisi ne mere saath share kiya tha dekh yeh dekh yahan toh breed mein bata rahe hain tu kaise galat tu kaise bol raha hai ki breed ka woh nahi tha. Then I asked this question ki bhai tujhe pata hai na uske environment se dog pe fark padta hai.
Toh usne bola ki haan mujhe pata hai dog ke environment se dog ke par fark padta hai. Maine kaha very good. Us research paper mein jaake par zara environment ko consider kiya gaya tha? There was zero consideration, zero consideration.
So when you come tum kam jab tumhein aise research papers mile aur agar tumhare dimaag mein aayega usko quote karne ka ya phir usko aage batane ka ya phir usko explain karne ka your responsibility is go through that research paper, understand that experiment and then come on a conclusion.
Ok not before, not before that. So we are our main see the main mission of everything which we are doing is to spread awareness of dog wellbeing. Dog ka behavior dog ki health uska hum uski awareness increase kar sakein. Hai na? Uski awareness hum kaise bhi tareeqe se increase kar sakte hain us cheez ke liye.
Lekin agar hum kabhi bhi kuch quote kar rahe hain woh quotation ek study ke base ke upar hogi. Aur agar hum kisi ko samjha rahe hain toh ek dimaag mein lekar chalo agar main koi cheez bol raha hoon mujhe kam se kam uska aath se 10 guna andar pata hona chahiye. Agar main kisi ko koi cheez sikha raha hoon toh.
So first we will take that topic and we will understand that topic aur hum uski itni information develop kar lenge apne andar lekin denge hum jab hum present karne jaayenge hamesha dimaag mein rakhenge jo hum present kar rahe hain na in the back we have aath se 10 guna hamare paas.
So that gives you weightage. Ok weightage deta hai. So uske liye time lagta hai. Take your time but this is the process. Ok take your time information gather karo apne andar poora consume karo us cheez ko.
Go deep not from like teaching perspective and not from this perspective just first go deep aur uske baad jab tum present karne jaoge na you will not be able to present everything. Obvious hi baat hai na. Kaise present karoge? Lekin tumhe samajh mein aayega ki us presentation mein kitna weightage hai.
Ok woh weightage kahan se aata hai tumhare andar kitna weight tumne andar rakha hua hai us topic ke upar. Ok so that will be amazing.
So science ke papers bahut amazing hain lekin bahut agar tum unko padhoge toh bahut aise foolish type bhi hai like sense make nahi karte cheezein toh but study them agar is direction mein jaana hai aur achha, achha, achha rahega.
Very good, good rahega. So next question kiske? Achha ek cheez aur yaar baaki sawalon se hum aage next hafte extra classes hain. Will you, will you guys be interested? Kuch extra class rakh sakte hain.
Matlab abhi kaafi time se hum presentations rakh rahe hain aur mujhe bahut saare topics ke upar baat bhi karni hai, batana bhi hai. So extra classes rakh sakte hain weekdays par weekends par bhi. I will let you know. Ok cool. So next question Kashish Bhatia.
Kashish Bhatia
Hi Kashish very well explained, very well presented aur facial expressions yeh jo aapke the woh main toh kabhi nahi kar pata itne achhe tareeqe se what how you have presented. Toh mera ek sawal mera ek yeh tha. Main ek hypothetical situation hai.
Mera dog hai Bosco Labrador hai chaar saal ka right meet meetup par gaye hue hain.
He is on a leash right. Ab uska jo tail hai 45 degree mein hai. Ekdam stable stable tail hai. Body posture jo hai ekdam confident hai aur doosra dog ke paas ekdam usko sniff kar raha hai woh. So how would you be able to guide me on this?
Kashish
So your dog Bosco is sniffing the other dog.
Kashish Bhatia
Yes.
Kashish
So he is just trying to gather information and he is also attentive ki woh agar reverse marega toh kya karega?
Kashish Bhatia
Okay matlab dono dog ek doosre ko sniff kar rahe hain. Doosre dog ka toh body language mujhe pata nahi kyunki mera dhyaan mere dog par hi hai. Uska tail 45 degree hai aur chest ekdam matlab confident hai ekdam stance ekdam.
Kashish
So aisa chauda hai ya aisa chauda hai.
Kashish Bhatia
Doosra wala matlab doosra bahut zyada bhi nahi.
Aur.
Kashish
Yeah so he is a confident dog but he is trying to gather information.
Kashish Bhatia
Okay toh usme mujhe kya karna chahiye aage? Matlab usko jo let him do it.
Kashish
Let him let him let him be let the dogs be.
Kashish Bhatia
Okay abhi main aapko bolta hoon. Yeh hypothetical situation tha. Abhi yeh situation jo hai isme teen mein se ek baar yeh matlab iska aur doosre dog ka jhagda ho chuka hai. Baaki time mein yeh baaki time mein yeh doosre dogs ko dominate karta hai.
Matlab let's say dogs agar chhote size ke hain, younger dogs hai toh unko sniff karega. Woh isse door bhagenge. Yeh aur bhi unko sniff karega, dominate karega. Toh is par kya kehna chahoge?
Kashish
Because he is the other dogs are telling them no, no nahi chahiye.
Sunny
So Kashish dekho again baaki sab logon ke liye batata hoon.
Again don't go on conclusion fatafat. So Kashish you are going on conclusion fatafat the first thing.
Kashish
I ask more question so sorry so sorry so sorry.
Sunny
Wait wait. Okay so the thing is ki jab woh pehle bol rahe the ki woh doosre dog ko sniff karta hai toh humara pehla kaam hota hai ki woh sniff ki intensity kya hoti hai. Okay sniff ki intensity kya hoti hai? Main batata hoon Kashish Bhatia uski sniff ki intensity thodi arousal hoti hai. Hai na?
Woh chhote dogs ko neeche munh neeche naak karke ho sakta hai thoda utha bhi de. So that woh thoda uska arousal wala excitement ki taraf jaata hai. So agar ek confident dog ke saath aisa excitement wala sniff karta hai woh tezi se correct. Matlab matlab main pooch.
Kashish Bhatia
Toh sabhi ek hi din mein jaan lena hai. Matlab aisa lagta hai na ki sabko abhi information gather kar lena hai.
Sunny
Sab logon ko samajh mein aaya, samajh mein aaya kya kar raha hai woh?
Woh ek arousal se sniff kar raha hai. Human ki story kya hai ki usko ek hi din mein sab kuch jaan lena hai. Aisa nahi hai. Woh arousal se sniff kar raha hai. Woh aroused hai.
Woh dog usko mental jo usko mental stimulant mil raha hai na, jo uske saamne aa raha hai, usse woh aroused hua hua hai aur woh us arousal mein neeche usko neeche jaata hai aur smell karne lag jaata hai. Chhote-chhote dogs ko uthakar woh upar hi patak deta hoga. Like upar bhi karta.
Chhote dogs bhaagte hain aur unko hump karta hoga. Lekin ek confident dog ke saamne agar yeh aayega aur uske saamne arousal aayega toh confident dog aise karega iski tarah aur in dono ke chest bump honge aur fight chaalu ho jaayegi.
So that jab bhi sniff ki baari aaye aur humein koi question pooch raha hai koi aur hai toh sniff ki intensity zaroori hoti hai.
Kashish
So decode more ask more and decode more.
Sunny
Tumne sniff ka hi dimaag mein kya socha? Tumhare tumhare dimaag mein kya aaya? Dog is tareeqe se sniff kar raha hai. Kya aaya tumhare dimaag mein? Dog is tareeqe se sniff kar raha hai. Dheere dheere dheere se sniff kar raha hai. But asliyat kya thi? Dog hyper sniff kar raha tha, arousal sniff kar raha tha.
So tumhare paas jo data hai woh toh uska toh CD galat ho gaya. Ab tum conclusion par kitna hi jaldi pahuncho, kitna hi late pahuncho, galat hi pahunchoge. So so diagnosis first thing is not conclusion first thing okay.
Kashish Bhatia
Matlab iske saath mera woh tail tail ka bhi yahi tha ki saath mein.
Sunny
Dog aapka aapka dog agar arouse ho raha hai toh usko thoda shaant karna padega. Toh sabse pehle khud ke dog kyunki aapko aapko humein lagta hoga ki humara dog playful hai, playful zyada hai. Usko sab dog se milna hai, sab ke upar chadhna hai, sab ke smell karna hai.
Lekin woh playful nahi, woh aroused zyada hai, aroused zyada hai aur woh doosre dogs ko pasand nahi aata. Doosre dog ko playful pasand aata hai bhai, lekin doosre dog ko arouse pasand nahi aata. Apna dog arousal ke baad playful hai. Play se arouse nahi ho raha. Woh already aroused hai.
So iske woh humein like iske agar hum iske arousal par kaam nahi karte, woh neutered nahi hoga. Neutered hai?
Kashish Bhatia
Neutered nahi hai aur Sunny bhai isme aisa hai ki agar yeh maine notice kiya hai ki agar yeh leash par hai matlab yeh first time hua tha. Pehli baar jab ek saal dedh saal pehle isko meetup par lekar gaye the, tab yeh leash par tha aur iska jhagda hua tha. Bahut kharaab hai na.
Matlab leash matlab blood blood nikal gaya tha. Sab ho gaya tha achhe tareeqe se. Aur jab agli baar se humne kya try kiya, humne isko leash free kar diya. Matlab leash par behavior iska aise hi rehta hai ki woh smell dominate dominate karega, smell karega.
Wo tail ka wo waisa hi rahega stance uska. Wo sab sab same hi rehta hai. But jab se unleash rakhte hain toh bas jhagda nahi hota hai. Bahut rare jhagda hota hai.
Sunny
Tumhari tension nahi hai na.
Kashish Bhatia
Wahi wahi.
Sunny
Leash jab hamare hath mein rehta hai toh insaan ki tension jaati hai aur insaan ke tension ke saath wo restriction bhi jaata hai leash ka. Toh fight wo fight toh dog wahi hai. Dog waisa hi hai. Uska restriction aur tension hat gaya. Toh ab kya wo kahin aur par apni release kar sakta hai energy?
Wo jaakar su su kar dega. Usko fight ka aa raha hoga na. Wo jaayega su su kar dega aur phir aayega wapas. So toh toh lekin leash par fight zyada ho sakti hai uske saath.
Kashish Bhatia
Toh ye arousal arousal ka jo state hai, ye matlab ye bahut mujhe aisa lagta hai ki bahut aroused rehta hai every time because neutered nahi hai pehli baat aur mujhe nahi pata ki.
Sunny
Neutered se fark toh dekho neutered se fark toh padta hai.
Lekin agar dog tumhe bachpan se tumhe wo arouse dikh raha toh ho sakta hai tumhare paas ek working class dog hai. So dog dog arouse kis tareeqe se ho jaate hain? For example agar hum bachpan se wo aisa nahi tha, lekin lagatar excitement mein rahe, excitement mein rahe, excitement mein rahe.
Kashish Bhatia
Sunny bhai ek cheez aur jodunga, uske baad aap mujhe boliye ga. Basically mujhe nahi pata ye kisi aur ne experience kiya hai nahi kiya hai. Jaise ki maine bola neutered nahi hai aur ghar mein kya hota hai ki any females let's say agar meri wife hai if she is on her periodical cycles toh he will he will go mad.
Wo peeche peeche peeche peeche hai na.
Agar agar agar meri mother in law hai agar meri sister in law hai anybody is on their periodic cycles toh wo kya karta hai ki matlab agar kahin par baithe hain agar let's say sofa par baithe hain wahan se uth ke gaye toh wahan par aakar wo lick karna chalu kar dega sofa ko jahan par wo baithe hue the.
Sunny
Wo natural behavior hai. Wo inka natural behavior khaaskar un dogs ke andar hota hai jinke andar toh iske andar iske andar mating ka aur food ka drive dono tagda hoga. Is dog ke andar. So iska iska food drive bhi tum bolo tagda. Ye healthy bhi rahega bhai apna hai na aur iska mating ka drive bhi bahut tagda hoga.
So iske andar mating ka drive tagda hai aur iske andar food ka drive tagda hai. Toh agar tum isko neuter karane ki sochoge toh usko thodi help hogi iske mental par. Iske mind par help isko jaise hum sabko nahi bolte neuter karane ke liye. Main toh rarely bolta hoon neuter karane ke liye.
Lekin agar koi behavior aisa dikh raha hai jisse dog ki madad ho sakti hai toh main usmein zaroor bolta hoon. Toh yahan par dog ki madad ho sakti hai. Agar hum usko neuter karayenge na toh uski madad ho sakti hai. Wo thoda usko mentally thoda relief milega.
Mentally relief milega. Aise dog thode ho sakta hai thoda bade hone ke baad thoda skin allergies develop kar lein. Unka adrenaline hamesha high rehta hai aur adrenaline ka thoda kaam hota hai ki yaar thoda wo body ka immune system aur skin skin theek rakhe.
Toh over a period time thodi dikkat hone lag jaati hai aise dogs ko jo aroused rehte hain. Hai na usko skin ke issues aane lag jaate hain rashes and all these things. Lekin that is because of behavior.
Imagine this thing behavior ek arousal behavior aage chalkar jab uska adrenaline high rahega adrenal phoonk jaayega aur jab wo phoonk jaayega toh skin par issues create karna start kar dega. Lekin us dog ko phir storage bhi jaayegi.
Kashish Bhatia
Right right.
Speaker 9
Sunny aap jo mating drive hai mating ke saath food drive bhi hai wo kaise relate hua dono.
Sunny
Haan toh iske peeche generally yeh thoda different domain hai.
Yeh chakra system hai. I don't know kitne log wo karte hain chakra system hai. So chakras is like dog ke andar bhi hote hain aur wo jo uska last ka chakra hota hai wo sexual drive ke responsible hota hai. I don't know kitne log is cheez ko maante hain ki padhai zaroori hai.
But main aap tumne mujhse poocha main toh sabko bata raha hoon ki kyon kaise pata lagta hai. Kaisa cheez hai. So wo chakra system hota hai aur chakra mein jaise muladhara chakra hota hai wo ekdam aakhir mein sexual energy ko lekar hota hai.
So agar dog ke andar sexual energy zyada hai toh uska kaun sa kaun sa high hai uska muladhara high hai that that thing muladhara. muladhara ke baad kya aata hai? this swadhisthana aur ye sab cheezein aati hain. Wo kya food se relate toh uske aas paas jo bhi hoga na wo bhi elevated hoga.
Kyonki that chakra will be affecting that thing.
Hai na toh usko bhookh zyada lagegi. Uska metabolism tagda hoga. Ek like andar ferment chalu hai. Uski health achhi hogi. Why health why health achhi hai? Because sexual energy is a healing energy. Wo heal bhi karti hai. Toh that's why usko uski health achhi hogi.
But agar wo badh gayi toh wo adrenaline ko phoonk deti hai. Hai na wo adrenaline ko phoonk deti hai matlab aur bhi cheezon ko kharab kar deti hai andar. Aur usse sabse pehle symptom kya tha? Skin ke issues aate hain. Skin ke issues aate hain. Hyperness anxiety ke issues aate hain. Toh anxiety attacks hote hain.
Panic attacks hote hain. Matlab this kind of thing agar wo elevated ho gaya wo cheez toh isliye pata aise pata laga. But different domain hai yaar. But aise pata this was the my wo tha route. Maine wo kaise.
Kashish Bhatia
Sunny bhai basically maine yeh suna hai ki dog ko neuter karane ka right age kuch saal dedh saal ka hota hai.
Uske baad aap karate ho toh kaafi drawbacks hai problems hai.
Sunny
Toh nahi nahi baad mein karao toh achha hai. Kitne saal ka ho gaya?
Kashish Bhatia
Chaar saal ka.
Sunny
Haan aaram se kara sakte ho yaar. Chaar saal ke chaar saal ka toh uski poori growth growth ho chuki. Aaram se kara sakte ho. Aaram se kara sakte ho. Actually dekho isko main mana nahi. Dekho jo testosterone hote hain wo health health bhi lekar aate hain. Lekin iske case mein wo health lekar nahi aayenge.
Iske case mein wo arousal lekar aaye hain aur arousal aage chalkar problem dega usko. That is the sabke liye sabke liye neuter nahi karane ka hai. Main just sabko bata raha hoon ki ye sab sochte hain bhai neuter karana hai is dog ko. Aisa nahi hota.
Speaker 4
But I have one question so matlab isko hum zyada kuch outlet provide kar sakte hain ya phir zyada uski behavior par overall work karke uska arousal kam kar sakte hain ya phir it will be necessary to.
Sunny
Arousal kam nahi this mating wala arousal. This is not because of pent up energy.
Speaker 4
Okay.
Sunny
Okay na matlab tum isko wo kar sakte ho bhaga bhaga ke bhaga bhaga ke thaka sakte ho. Lekin agar usko phir smell aa gayi wo apni thakan bhool jaayega. Wo uske liye aur damaging hoga. Uski body uthna nahi chahegi, lekin wo baith nahi sakta.
Speaker 4
Okay.
Sunny
Okay. Wo baith nahi sakta. Toh suppose chalo ghar par female human hai. Wo apne periods par aayi hui hai. monthly cycle par aayi hui hai. Wo usko itna impact kar rahi hai toh tum samajh sakte ho ki it's like kitna high drive hai uske upar. Bahut high drive hai. So nothing will help help him bas neuter ke alawa.
Speaker 4
Okay and agar neutering hi nahi hota aur agar ye mate kar sakta hota matlab agar wo free living dog hota toh phir use problem nahi hote ye sab.
Sunny
Nahi tab usko phir problem nahi hote. Na usko problem nahi hoti but wo regular mate chahiye hota usko.
Every heat cycle four month, five month, six month tab usko problem nahi hote.
Speaker 4
Okay ok thank you.
Kashish Bhatia
Mera last tha Vayu se Vayu. Wo apna jo left right tha tail wala wo apna left tha ya dog ka left tha. Wo main thoda samajhne mein reh gaya. Wo wo khaali ek baar mujhe bata dena na ki dog ka left hai ya apna left hai aisa.
Sunny
Dog ka left.
Kashish Bhatia
Dog ka all right.
Sunny
Lekin wo lekin wo completely.
Speaker 9
Brain ke left right ke hisaab se opposite ho raha hai toh unka unka hi hai.
Kashish Bhatia
Right right.
Sunny
Lekin aur is par dhyaan dene ki zaroorat abhi usko aur aur dekhne ki bhi zaroorat hai humko. But mere andar jo question aaya tha, mujhe uska solution nahi mila tha ki like how to. Phir samajh mein aaya tha ki yaar wo left zyaada move ho raha hai aur right par kam ho raha hai.
Wo matlab ho sakta hai but maine research poori nahi padhi. Okay. So yeah, kiske aur sawaal hain? Let's kaafi time ho gaya.
Aadarsh.
Vaayu
Well sir, I have sent a video on Telegram discussion group. It's very interesting. Can you share that sir? Can you share?
Sunny
Yeah, let me check man. Okay, share kar raha hoon. Par aawaaz nahi aa rahi usmein yaar. I don't know why but aawaaz nahi aa rahi. Okay, this one. This one bro.
Vaayu
Sir, screen is not working sir.
Sunny
Kya bol rahe ho?
Vaayu
Screen visible nahi hai sir.
Sunny
I think koi issue hai, wo share nahi, wo save abhi nahi kar pa raha. So let it be man. Hai na? Abhi nahi kar pa raha, koi issue tha. But yeah, isko waapas se dekhte hain, like group mein dekhte hain is cheez ko. Abhi share nahi kar pa raha. Some issue hai.
Vaayu
Wo kaise chalega? Group mein discuss kar sakte hain.
Sunny
Okay, okay, okay. Aur kisi ke koi sawaal hai Kashish se?
Speaker 4
Yeah, I have one question.
Sunny
Yeah.
Speaker 4
So sometimes dog apna paanv aise oopar karte hain and alert hote hain. So what does that mean? Like ek paanv aise oopar kar liya, aise oopar curl kar diya.
Kashish
So I am not coming to conclusions here. But ek paanv up is usually said to be till where I have researched it's a thinking you know, apne aaspaas ke baare mein ek baar soch raha hai ki achha yeh kitne distance par hai? Yeh aawaaz kitni distance se aayi? Kahaan ho sakti hai yeh cheez?
So it's usually taking a pause and apne parameter ka ek baar dhyaan dena.
Speaker 4
Correct. Because I will see Betty ki kabhi kuch sound aa gaya ya phir kuch aise matlab grass mein se aawaaz aa gayi toh she goes as a paw up, ears up and wo try karte hain I think.
Kashish
Aisa ears jaata hai kya uska Betty ka?
Speaker 4
Yeah, sometimes.
Kashish
Yeah, so she is as I said ki yeh, yeh, yeh is trying to understand ki kidhar se, kidhar se, kidhar se, kidhar se.
Speaker 4
Okay.
Sunny
So kis, kis tarah ke dogs mein yeh, yeh behavior zyaada dekha jaata hai? Like pair, pair oopar karne ka.
Kashish
Are you asking me?
Sunny
Yes, asking you. Because 10-15 questions ho gaye, mera koi question nahi hai.
Kashish
Okay, okay. This can be seen in fearful dogs, can be seen in anxious dogs. But overall this is just a, I see it as a behavior, a dog showing the behavior, right? So any dog who is vigilant of its vicinity would do that. So yeah, I believe fearful or anxious dog.
Sunny
Yeah, okay. So that's general agar thoda isko samajh mein aaya toh that's it's like wo dog ka state of mind dikhaata hai aur wo state of mind hota hai unsure.
That was like wahi again, like wo apne aaspaas ke environment par vigilant hai and that but just wo unsure hai ki kuch think jaise tumne bataaya ki wo kuch think kar raha hai, kuch figure out karne ki koshish kar raha hai. So figure out karne ki koshish kis, kab karte hain? Jab unsure hote hain.
So that was unka state of mind wo us samay par unsure hota hai aur yeh un dogs mein sabse zyaada dekhne ko milta hai jo low confident hote hain. Okay? Toh low confident, low confident.
Wahi again insecure, anxious tum usko kisi bhi direction mein usmein de sakte ho, lekin low confident dogs mein yeh sab cheezein dekhne ko, zyaada dekhne ko milti hai. Okay? Unsureness.
Speaker 4
But also some breed dogs matlab jo pointer breeds hote hain, wo aise point karte hain jab unko prey dikhta hai.
Sunny
Yeah, that's- That is also the same thing aur ya phir uska state of mind different hai. No, that's, that's a, that's pointer, pointer dog.
Wo just point kar rahe hain ki kahaan par prey hai. So again iske baare mein aur read karne ki zaroorat hai, lekin that's a completely different case. So iske baare mein aur read karne ki zaroorat hai. So it's a good thing.
Main all field soch bhi raha tha, if we pointer dogs ke baare mein ki and I will go more deep in that.
Vaayu
Sunny so main, Sunny maine, maine na Brownie ke saath yeh dekha tha.
So jab Brownie ko door se koi dog dikha ya kuch dikha toh tabhi mujhe aisa feel hua ki it is also a symbol of impatientness ki she wants to act but because of, because she is on the leash or because the distance is too much and she is still gazing ki calculating ki kya hai, kya nahi hai, bhaagna hai ya nahi.
Toh wo impatience se bhi ek pair uska oopar matlab wo hota tha. Toh impatientness is also one of the reasons along with confidence.
Speaker 4
Okay.
Vaayu
Then maybe that can be the concept. Maine bhi nahi padha lekin maybe mujhe click hua phir jab aapne pointer wala bola toh.
Sunny
Check karna padega usko. So guys, I think that's it Kashish. Bahut tough topic liya tha tumne aur bahut tough tumhe questions bhi aaye hain and bahut saare questions toh aise the ki jo humne pehli baar yahaan par discuss kiye the. So jo tail hai, wo body ka ek part hai aur ek wo body ka bahut important part hai.
Hai na? Usse kaafi cheezein dog ke baare mein pata chal jaati hai aur as a dog behaviorist hum dog ki tail ko bahut zyaada importance dete hain. Matlab like hume dena chahiye dog ki tail, hum poore body ko dena chahiye, lekin tail ko hum bahut zyaada importance dete hain.
Wo kaafi kuch cheezein bata deti hai dog ke baare mein. So yeh deep topic hai aur iske baare mein video assets hona aur photos hona taaki jitne bhi log is cheez ko jaan rahe hain, matlab it's a good topic aur lekin hum isko aur improvise kar sakte hain by adding more videos and all these cheezein.
It's not your work, but it's like ki we will work on this kind of stuff ki hum is tareeke se logon ko visually bhi bata sakein ki kaise poonchh move hoti hai, kaise kahan par kya hota hai. You tried that from that thing. Jo bhi tha tumhare paas wo kind of thing jo tail jaisa tha.
But yeah you tried it and you explained very well aur kaafi tough topic tha and kaafi achhe time bhi liya tumne batane ke liye and that is also good.
So I think yeh poora ka poora session aapko confidence provide kiya gaya hoga and bahut saari cheezein aapko analyze karne ke liye hoga ki aap isko analyze kar sako and then go through this thing again and see kis kya kin-kin cheezon mein hum aur improvement kar sakte hain.
And again yaar log baaki log yaar jiske bhi baaki hain apne eval please kara lijiye aur online like aa sakte ho.
Online start kar sakte ho aur cases ke baare mein baat kar sakte ho aur aage bhi lekar ja sakta hoon like kya-kya questions poochhne hote hain and kaafi fun hai phir aage next level par jaoge. So please apna eval kara lijiye.
Jinhone apna eval kara lijiye apna presentation kar dijiye taaki aap logon ke web page bana de web page bana de and kuchh-kuchh clients aapki taraf bhej sakein toh aapko bhi maza aayega ki kaise unko handle karna hai. Okay. And extra classes ke baare mein soch raha hoon main next hafte.
So I will let you know ki kab kya-kya uska timing hoga. Lekin next hafte se kuchh ek ya do class extra kar sakte hain taaki yeh sab cover ho jaaye do-teen hafton ka. Okay.
Kashish
Can I maybe ask a question? Like I will just take a quick one minute. Uh um I came as a-a dog behaviorist who might be sitting on a call and talking to his clients like Sunny does, right?
So I uh like jaanboojhke I didn't make any PPT or anything like that. I wanted to use my body and uh portray it like that. That's why I didn't wear specs initially. So I just want to you know ki maine jitna bhi basic touch kiya because it's very deep and it's aur mujhe bhi itna zyada nahi aata. It's very tough for me.
I have worked very hard on this topic. Yeh ek aisa topic tha. Uh lot many people knows like which scares me out. I have worked really hard on it. Were you guys able to understand me? Jahan tak maine samjhaya that's-that's all I want to know.
Sunny
Absolutely. Yeah. Haan matlab sabne apne-apne level se understand kiya hi hai aur sabse important baat hai ki tumne mehnat kari iske upar aur tumne bahut confidence se present kiya.
Pehla hum sabki dekho hum sabki understanding ke levels apne-apne hote hain. Kisi ne kitna understand kiya, kisi ne and aur saari ki saari understanding depend karti hai ki hum kitna focus kar pa rahe hain. Aur as a teacher hamara kaam hota hai ki saamne walon ka attention hamare ke upar rakhna.
So ab ek feedback de paoonga jab tum agar tumhe kabhi aisa karna hai jab tum kabhi start kar rahe ho toh sabka attention lene ke toh yeh bol sakte ho bhai apne videos toh open karo. Main tumhe kaise dekhoonga ki tum kya mera samajh rahe ho ki nahi samajh rahe ho.
Kashish
I wanted to say that.
Sunny
Maine khud mein band kar liya tha ki bolegi ladki. Stage was yours. So yeah anyways. Tumne bahut achhi tareeke se samjhaya aur main tumhe baar-baar yeh cheez bol raha hoon. Yeh topic bahut tough tha aur jab maine mute bhi kiya hua tha aur yeh questions aa rahe the.
Vayu question poochh rahe the aur sab question poochh rahe the. Main taraf se yahan bolta tha yeh bahut tough questions hai. It's like ki kyunki mujhe pata hai mujhe iska jawab pata hai. But mujhe yeh bhi pata hai ki woh jawab ko find karne ke liye mujhe kya laga hai. Hai na kind of thing.
Toh I know ki toh bahut mushkil hai this kind of thing. So it was very tough, tough topic. It's a very tough topic and you did it amazingly. Aur jo tumne achhi tareeke se and tumne aisa thodi ki tumne paanch minute bola hai.
You talk tumne is topic ke baare mein 20 minute toh obviously you studied aur na aise thodi bol sakta hai koi bhi insaan kisi bhi topic ke baare mein. Right. So lekin main focus is topic ka yahan par presentation ka lene ka mera koi yeh maksad nahi ki tum logon ko samjhao.
Hai na bhai abhi one to one tumse baat kar raha hoon. Mera koi maksad nahi hai ki tum logon ko samjhao. Mera sirf yeh maksad hai ki tum samjhana seekho.
Tum samjhana start karo aur woh kahan se hota hai jab hum samjhana chaalu karte hain ki bhai aise hai, aise hai, aise hai. Jab main pehli baar consultation mein gaya tha, tumhe pata hai kya hua tha? Jo meri client thi, usne vomit kar di thi. Can you imagine vomit?
Kyunki maine usko itna overwhelm kar diya tha ki usko migraine ka attack aa gaya tha. I was keep on blabbering dog aisa, dog waisa, dog aisa. Kaun-kaun jaanta hai Vaidehi ko happy fulfilled dog ko? Vaidehi ko kaun jaanta hai yahan par? Vaidehi ko jaanta that was my, that was my client jisko ulti aa gayi thi. Okay.
Ab uska woh-woh behaviorist hai. Matlab usko ulti aa gayi thi. Maine usko jab jaake so that's-that's how I started man. So that's humein seekhna hai. Hai na humein seekhna hai aur yeh poora ka poora maksad mera yeh hai ki tum presentation karna.
Mujhe koi, koi woh nahi hai. Baaki sab, baaki sab that's a bonus thing for us. And but here aur baaki sab aake yahan par time de rahe hain, humein express karne ka mauka de rahe hain that is the biggest thing aur tumse sawaal poochh rahe. So sawaal kab poochhega insaan jab wo interest dikhayega.
Otherwise wo kyun poochhega sawaal? Simple hai na. Toh sab log sawaal poochh rahe hain tumse. So sab log interest dikhane ki dikha rahe hain apna aur chaahte hain ki tum log tum grow. But consistent rehna hota hai hum sabko agar is field mein rehna hai. Agar hum consistent ka kisse matlab hai?
Consume the information and express it. Okay jo info ab wo express tum online bhi kar sakte ho. Tum field mein jaakar bhi kar sakte ho, dog ke saath bhi kar sakte ho. But start expressing this thing ki jo consume hui hai I will start expressing. Okay. All guys that's it guys.
Kashish
Thank you everyone. Thank you so much.
Sunny
Yes extra classes ke baare mein bata doonga. Bye, bye.
Have a great day.
Kashish
Thank you.
Speaker 7
Thank you. Great work Kashish.
Kashish
Thank you.
Sunny
Bye.
Speaker 7
Excellent Kashish.
Kashish
Thank you Leena ji.
Speaker 7
Bye. Thank you.
Sunny
Bye, bye.
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