Pro group call · Sun 6 Sep 2026 · 57 min

Diagnosing a Shih Tzu's barking: data gathering and the play ritual

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The call opened with a quick consult on a dog passing yellow, fat-laden stools, where Sunny explained that undigested fat (not worms) was the cause and fat had to be cut from the diet. The main session was a case-study exercise where members practiced diagnosing a Shih Tzu that barked continuously at her human, using a structured data-gathering framework built around the six rituals (walk, socialising, discipline, play, affection, feeding). Sunny showed how the group jumped to labels like attention-seeking or demand barking too quickly, and walked them through reading the barking and timing as clues, revealing that the real issue was insufficient and badly timed play for a young, high-drive dog. The call closed with breed history on Shih Tzu and Lhasa Apso instincts and housekeeping on the new call schedule and pending evaluations.

Key points (6)

Completely yellow, unformed poop signals that fat cannot be digested, not a worm problem, and fat should be removed from the diet until it normalises.
Diagnosing a behaviour case requires disciplined data gathering across the six rituals (walk, socialising, discipline, play, affection, feeding) before forming conclusions.
Vague human labels like attention-seeking or demand barking should be avoided because almost all communication could be called that.
A dog's bark type and the timing of the behaviour are strong direct data points that reveal the real underlying need.
In the case discussed, an 8 to 9 month old Shih Tzu was barking from unmet, badly timed play needs rather than a lack of walks or discipline, and restructuring play into three energetic daily sessions resolved it.
Mental enrichment and play are different tools, and choosing the right one depends on what the dog's data is actually showing.

On the call: Sunny, Sakshi, speaker_0, Reena, Anshul, Puloshka, speaker_4, Kashish, Vayu, speaker_7
Topics: case study behavioural barking training structured walk psychology body language pro program digestive health nutrition

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Hindi written in English letters. The audio is the record.

Speaker 1
karoon. curd bhi khaata tha woh.
Sunny
curd toh sahi hai lekin basically abhi jaise poop dekhkar yahi samajh mein aa raha hai ki uski body mein fat digest nahi ho raha hai. so poop jab yellow ho jaati hai toh uska matlab yahi hota hai ki fat digest nahi ho paa raha hai.
toh jab fat digest nahi ho paa raha hai toh yeh bhi ho sakta hai ki pancreas jo hote hain woh kaafi overburdened ho jaate hain. unko zyaada juices nikaalna padta hai. unke andar infection bhi create ho jaata hai matlab zyaada work karte hain toh thoda blood bhi aa sakta hai uske upar.
toh bahut saari cheezein, bahut saari cheezein match kar rahi hai ki uske liye usko jo fat se problem ho rahi hai. so agar hum fat hata denge toh uske baad hum ek do din tak dekh sakte hain ki uska kaisa respond rehta hai.
lekin agar jab bhi jitne bhi log sun rahe hain agar dog ekdam yellow potty kar raha hai toh uska matlab hai fat digest nahi ho paa raha hai toh fat digest nahi ho paa raha.
Speaker 1
itna fat toh main deti bhi nahi thi. sunny yeh oil is too much for him?
Sunny
kai baar ho jaata hai too much.
jaise for example dog aapka dog chahe patla bhi hai, itna bhi nahi ki uske bahut zyaada weight hai uska woh patla bhi hai plus uske andar thoda kai baar anxiety ka issue bhi rehta hai toh jinke andar anxiety ka issue rehta hai unke pancreas adrenals already overwork kar rahe hote hain and again isko pachaane ke liye bhi pancreas ke juices lagte hain.
so agar woh pancreas adrenal overwork kar rahe hain already toh thoda bhi ho sakta hai zyaada pade uske liye. dog to dog depend karta hai. so humein poop se humein feedback mila aur feedback yahi hai ki woh fat ko pacha nahi paa raha hai.
so uske liye fat abhi kuch time ke liye band karna padega jab tak uski potty waapas se normal nahi ho jaati. peeli jaise jaise badhti jaayegi, waise waise khaana change karna padta hai.
Speaker 1
Formed waali cheez toh abhi kal se better ho gaya hai ki pehle toh unformed ho rahi thi toh ab formed better honi shuru ho gayi hai. but yeah aur bhookh bahut zyaada lag rahi hai. bhookh bahut zyaada all the time asking har do ghante baad mujhe maang raha hota hai khaana.
Sunny
haan usko, usko aap de sakte ho khaana. bas aap fat nahi de sakte abhi kuch time ke liye. matlab usko chicken de do. achha chicken de do aur usko rice de do. rice de do ki woh kha le achhi tareeqe se. lekin abhi kisi bhi tareeqe ka fat nahi de sakte.
Speaker 1
toh I just read online also ki usmein aise hi jaise blood and poop aur yeh saari cheezon ke baare mein. usmein one of the vet intervention ke home remedies mein toh yahi tha ki fasting ho gayi ya bland food ho gaya etc.
so vet usmein toh first thing written is deworming irrespective of colitis ke liye ki irrespective of ki aapka poop ka test negative aata hai ya positive ki aapko deworming de deni chahiye.
Sunny
yeh toh normal, yeh toh normal matlab general woh hai like log general dete hi de de without any us cheez ke liye ki asliyat mein dikkat hai ki nahi hai. agar aap dog ki poop ko dekhoge woh worms ki taraf indicate nahi kar rahi hai. woh indicate kis ki taraf kar rahi hai? fat digest nahi ho rahi.
Speaker 1
Yellow toh main dekh rahi hai kaafi time se in fact maine I think woh waali cheez toh I think notice mein bhi aa raha tha mere. but mujhe samajh nahi aaya ki main kya karoon. ek do din maine chhoda tha. phir maine dobaara resume kar diya oil. but yeah.
Sunny
Coconut oil band kar do. Omega three band kar do aur uske baad phir do teen din mein dekho woh theek hone lag jaayega.
woh fat ka issue hai toh poop sabse pehle ishaara de deti hai aur yeh kaafi normal hai actual mein matlab it's like not a uski agar uski poop achhi tareeqe se form ho rahi hai aur yellow hai that is also kya feedback toh mil gaya na ki kya dikkat hai uske andar so fat completely band kar do.
okay. theek hai. Recording started hai. okay so guys start karein aaj ka session. let's go, let's go. kitne log aaye hain? 10 log aaye hain. so aaj ke session mein main kya kar raha hoon? meri puraani consultations hain aur matlab main consultations aapko nahi show kar raha. lekin main aapko kya karoonga?
woh case show karoonga. hai na? aur us case ko aapko solve karna hoga ki kaise us cheez ko solve karte hain. aur jahaan se main start karoonga aise start karoonga jis tareeqe se generally log mere ko call karte hain. so I think videos on kar lo yaar. mere ko samajh hi nahi aa raha main kisse baat kar raha hoon.
Reena ji dikh rahi hain. bas Puloshka ji dikh rahi hain aur phir Trupti dikh rahi hain. toh in teeno se hi baat kar leta hoon. okay okay.
Vaibhav bhi nikle nikle. okay okay so chalo theek hai. hai na? Momita ji ne bhi kar liya. chalo theek hai. very good Anshul bahut dino baad dikh rahe ho.
Speaker 3
Not in a situation to turn on the video.
Sunny
Okay okay man okay. toh toh suno case suno. abhi dekho mere paas aise yeh main shuruwaat ke cases se start kar raha hoon. maine socha yaar kahaan se tum logon ko bataana start karoon case studies ke baare mein. so log generally mujhe call karte hain aur yeh call consultations ke upar hai.
aur jo bhi dog behaviorist like start kar raha hai call consultation se start kar sakte ho. like aap online se start kar sakte ho. kahin ghar par jaane ki zaroorat nahi hoti but aap online logon ko consult karne se start kar sakte ho.
so uske liye aapko seekhna hoga ki kaise case ko solve karte hain aur solve karne ke liye humein sawaal poochhne hote hain.
okay so main aapke saamne case present karoonga. lekin jab aap jawaab doge toh uske peeche tukka nahi hona chahiye.
hum yahaan par yeh nahi figure out kar rahe ki humaara jawaab sahi hai, humaara humaara galat ki hum yahaan par case solve kar rahe hain aur har ek jawaab ke peeche reasoning honi chahiye ki aapne aisa kyon bola. okay toh chhote se chhota sa start karte hain. mere paas call aata hai aur ek Shih Tzu hai.
chhota sa Shih Tzu hai aur woh jab bhi human kahin baithta hai aaspaas ya phir kaam kar raha hota uske paas toh lagaataar peeche se bark kar rahi hoti hai. lagaataar peeche se. bas yahi context hai. aap ek ek karke haath khade karo jisko iske upar sawaal poochhna hai.
mere paas yeh context aaya this is the context ki ek dog hai.
woh Shih Tzu hai. uski human jab bhi wahin baithti hai ya phir jab bhi aaspaas rehti hai woh subah se lekar shaam tak sirf bark karti rehti hai usko peeche se. kya reason ho sakta hai? yes kaise solve karoge? yes Reena ji. mute ho.
Speaker 1
pehle haan pehle toh poochhna hi hai ki bhaiya walk aur exercise ka kya uska regimen hai?
Sunny
haan. So walks. haan, yeh ek normal. yeh sabse pehle sawaal hote hain. Walk aur iske kya hai? Okay. toh yeh hum aise hi start karte hain. toh humne bhi aise hi start kiya ki walk aur kya hai? toh unhone bola walks achhi mil rahi hai.
Walk achhi matlab subah aur shaam ko usko achhi walk milti hai and exercise bhi usko achhi milti hai. Now what next?
Speaker 1
Health issues toh koi nahi hai.
Sunny
nahi, koi health issues nahi hai.
Speaker 1
toh attention seeking hogi na. Maybe they are excited hai.
Dog kaafi rehta hai aur usko nurture karte hain.
Sunny
Haan, ye bhi.
Speaker 1
Barking ko nurture karte hain.
Sunny
Haan, ye bhi, ye bhi part hai. Ye bhi wo nurture karte hain is cheez ko.
Toh jab humne unko bola ki aap is tareeqe se karte ho toh unhone bola ki humne kisi aur behaviorist se bhi baat kari thi aur us behaviorist ne humko yeh bataya tha ki aisa nahi karna hai toh hum ek mahine se follow kar rahe hain lekin result nahi aa raha. Ab aur koi batayega? Aur koi poochhega? Socho. Yes Anshul.
Speaker 4
Other than that wo kabhi aur bark karti hai kya? Ya phir jab, jab uske paas matlab jab aap kaam kar rahe ho toh sirf usi time par wo yeh behavior hai ya other than that ab jaise agar aap kabhi kitchen mein kuch kaam kar rahe ho tab bhi ho raha hai ya phir koi guest aaya tab bhi ho raha hai.
Uske alawa aur kabhi same behavior.
Sunny
Barking behavior toh aa raha hai uske saamne lekin generally sabse zyada toh barking behavior aata hai jab human baithi rehti hai aur uske upar peeche se wo bark karti rehti hai subah se lekar shaam tak.
Speaker 4
One, one thing it could be like if he, if he or she is getting proper exercise, every he is eating properly and everything is fine. So it could be attention seeking or like they just wanted to be close to the human.
Sunny
Close toh already hai isse wo. Like close toh already hai isse. Aur kaise iske, isse tumhe sawaal poochhna hai. Hai na? Like kaise aur tum isse diagnose. Agar tumhe diagnosis samajh nahi aa rahi hai na toh iska matlab tumhare paas information abhi poori nahi hai. Information do tareeqe ki.
Information pehli cheez dog's ecology ki first information.
Agar tumhare paas wo completely. So dog's ecology ki information hum bina client ke bhi apne dimaag mein lekar aa sakte hain na. Matlab padhai kar kar ke, kar kar ke. Toh first part diagnosis ka yeh hota hai ki hamari khud ki information, khud ki knowledge. Second part hota hai data gathering.
Data gathering ka matlab kya? Hum client se kitna data, data gather kar sakte hain aur kitna phir hamare dimaag mein uske dots connect ho sakte hain. So abhi data gathering ka wo hai right now. Okay. Toh kaise data gather karoge aur, aur kaise sawaal poochhoge? Ki tumhe data ho.
Matlab tum mujhe bata rahe ho ki main, matlab mujhe uksa rahe ho ki main tumhe bataun. Lekin main client hoon. Main kaise bataunga tumhe?
Speaker 4
Did they bring the puppy home?
Speaker 5
Uske, uske ghar ke andar ka jo routine hai wo kya exactly? Ki hamesha peeche-peeche chalti hai. Um, matlab wo hamesha unse chipki rehti hai ya phir wo usse bahut play bhi karte hain ya nahi.
Matlab ghar ke andar structure hai kya nahi properly ya phir.
Sunny
So play karti hai. Wo, wo chipki toh rehti hai aur roz play hota hai. Roz play hota hai. Chipki toh rehti hai. Lekin roz play, play bhi karte hain, walk bhi karte hain, exercise bhi karte hain.
Speaker 5
Aur yeh baaki ka like poora time talking, talking agar wo bhi hota rahega na toh dog phir waapas attention bhonk ke hi seek karte hain.
Kyunki abhi wo peeche karke agar wo kaam kar rahe hain aur kaam ke movement se bhi wo agar wo trigger ho rahi hai, attention bhi seek kar rahi hai aur kaam, kaam in the sense aap kya office ka kaam bol rahe ho ya kaisa kuch aise kitchen.
Sunny
Haan office ka kaam. Office ka kaam karte hain hum.
Speaker 5
Okay. Umm. Toh mujhe toh attention hi maang rahi hai aise lag raha hai. Kyunki pehle bahut zyada.
Sunny
See again, see again main sabko bolunga again sab log conclusion par aa rahe hain.
Data gathering par nahi aa rahe. So tum sabka mindset change. Matlab main bata raha hoon mindset kaise change karna tha. Abhi again hum sabke sab kya karna chahte hain? Answer figure out karna chahte hain. Answer figure out. Hamare dimaag mein kya hai? Sabke dimaag mein kya hai? Humein answer figure out karna hai.
Nahi, nahi, nahi, nahi. Humein data gather karna hai. Data gather karna hai. So yeh mindset mein change karna hota hai ki humein data gather karna hai abhi right now. Yes Reena ji.
Speaker 1
Sunny could it be um, jaise agar laptop par kaam kar rahe ho, computer par kaam kar rahe ho the conversations she has on that toh particular frequencies usko irritate karti ho agar sirf working time par hai.
Sunny
Nahi, wo agar aise bhi baithi rehti hai jaise kaam kar raha hoon aur main palang par aakar hum baith gaye. Matlab client ki tarah hi bolta hoon. Main kaam kar raha hoon aur main palang kar aa, palang par aakar baith gaya toh bhi bhonkti rehti hai. Samajh hi nahi aata kya karoon.
Speaker 1
Rules, boundaries wagairah bhi follow ho rahi hain.
Sunny
Haan, matlab usko discipline bhi dete hain. Hum usko training bhi dete hain. Humne uski training bhi karayi hai. Humne uski exercise bhi karayi hai. Hum exercise bhi karate hain.
Speaker 4
Sunny bhai yeh ek question ho sakta hai. Yeh ek question ho sakta hai ki chhote se puppy ko laaye the ya phir bade hone ke baad laaye toh kuch past owners se related issues hain.
Sunny
Nahi chhota sa hi aaya tha lekin dheere-dheere, dheere wo shuruat mein nahi bhonkti thi. Lekin dheere-dheere, dheere karke uska bhonkna chaaloo hone lag gaya.
Speaker 4
Nahi matlab this, this could be a question na ki matlab kaise laaye the usko bade adult stage mein laaye ya puppy stage mein laaye. This could be a question.
Sunny
Haan, toh main wahi bata raha hoon na. Chhote mein hi lekar aaye the hum like.
Speaker 4
Okay.
Sunny
Yeh question ho sakta hai. Data gathering ka question ho sakta hai. Yes, this is a question.
Speaker 4
Okay.
Sunny
Haan, data gathering ka question hai yeh. Aur yes Sakshi ji.
Sakshi
Hi Sunny. Toh mere paas kuch kaafi saare questions hain.
Sunny
Haan, bilkul, bilkul.
Sakshi
Jaise ki um, yeh barking kab shuru hoti hai? Immediately jaise hi insaan jiska human jab bhi kaam karna shuru karta hai ya thodi der baad shuru hoti hai.
Um, kisi particular time par hoti hai ya zyadatar stationary activities jab wo jismein involved rehti hai jaise ki laptop par kaam karna ho gaya ya baith ke khaana ho gaya ya TV dekh rahe ho, phone chala rahe ho tab hota hai.
Sunny
Ek-ek karke, ek-ek karke answer dete jaate hain na jaise client se apan baat kar rahe hain. Toh ek-ek karke apan. Warna client qua-question hi bhool jaayega ki kya sawaalon ke jawaab aur apan bhi answers lena bhool jaayenge ki kis-kiske answers lene the.
Sakshi
Okay.
Sunny
So pehla question, pehla question tha ki kya tha?
Main bhool hi, bhool gaya. Kya, kya tha question?
Sakshi
So yeh barking matlab turant shuru ho jaati hai jaise hi human kaam karne baithta hai ya thoda time lagta hai?
Sunny
Nahi, kab agar palang par bhi baithe hote hain toh bhi dheere-dheere whining chaaloo hoti hai. Phir uske baad barking chaaloo hoti hai. Toh kayi baar wo palang par aane ki koshish karti hai. Idhar chadhti hai, udhar chadhti hai toh hum usko baandh dete hain. Toh bhi uski phir barking aur hone, hone lag jaati hai.
Toh barking kabhi bhi chaaloo ho jaati hai uski.
Sakshi
Aur yeh barking kaisi sound karti hai? Matlab sharp aur- Sharp hoti hai. Like repetitive, whining bhi rehti hai.
Sunny
Sharp repetitive hoti hai. Wow, wow, wow like. Yeh toh main zyada information de di client se. Haan anyways. Wo wow, wow karke nahi batayenge.
Sakshi
Is this also some kind of alert barking?
Sunny
Ab ye toh aap bata sakte hain magar alert biting, lekin wo lagataar bhaunkti rehti hai.
Sakshi
Lagataar.
Sunny
Haan lagataar bhaunkti rehti hai.
Sakshi
Aur jab wo bhaunk rahi hai toh uski body language kaisi rehti hai? Thodi stress rehti hai, body start rehti hai, idhar-udhar ghumti rehti hai, paw karti hai.
Sunny
Haan wo saamne dekhti hai aur aise jhatke maar ke bark karti hai. Like baar-baar wow, wow, wow is tareeqe se. Phir zyaada information de di maine. But haan aise karti hai wo.
Sakshi
Okay, okay.
Sunny
Haan.
Sakshi
Theek hai. Aur wo jab bhi bark kar rahi hoti hai toh wo peeche hamesha rehti hai. Matlab aage- Haan wo kabhi peeche, kabhi idhar jaati hai, kabhi udhar jaati hai.
Sunny
Agar humne usko baandh rakha hai toh usi jagah se khadi hokar wo bark karti rehti hai humein.
Sakshi
So like pacing is there.
Sunny
Haan pacing itna toh nahi bol sakte lekin haan khade-khade wow, wow barking zyaada hai.
Pacing itna nahi hai.
Sakshi
Okay. Agar koi usko attention nahi de raha hai barking toh usually uski bark kitni lambi chal sakti hai? Matlab bhaunkti rahegi ki- Subah se lekar shaam tak. Oh!
Sunny
Haan subah se lekar shaam tak uski barking chal sakti hai.
Sakshi
Okay. Yeh toh haan matlab mere ko bhi thoda sa attention waala hi lag raha hai. But abhi nahi, abhi nahi, abhi nahi. Abhi, abhi, abhi aur kuch questions aa sakte hain sir.
Sunny
So attention bahut vague hai. Jab log bolte hain na attention ke liye, attention term hi bahut vague hai. Hum communicate karte hain attention ke liye toh hum attention phir bolte kya hain? Hum communicate karte hain attention ke liye.
Matlab main usse kuch baat karun toh obviously iski, iska attention nahi hai toh phir main communicate, matlab communication ka intention hi attention hai. Toh attention bahut vague hota hai. Jab hum attention bolte hain toh. Wo data, data gathering mein kaam nahi aayega. Wo vague hai bahut.
Sakshi
Toh yeh jab human ke upar bark kar rahi hai toh is human ke aas-paas aur bhi log hain ya agar wo akeli, akeli rehti hai toh?
Sunny
Akeli, akeli, akeli rehti, akeli hoti toh.
Sakshi
Hmm.
Sunny
Matlab generally wo akele, generally hum akele hi rehte hain lekin jab doosre guest bhi aate hain toh bhi kai baar yeh barking karti hai. Lekin generally main akeli rehti hoon toh mostly mere upar hi bark karti rehti hai peeche se.
Sakshi
Okay.
Sunny
Okay.
Ho gaya data? Okay. Yes, what Puluska ji? Socho.
Speaker 7
Mera toh do hi question hai filhaal ke liye because I am newcomer.
Sunny
Haan, haan.
Speaker 7
Pehla toh koi medical issues toh kuch time se nahi hai.
Sunny
Nahi hai.
Speaker 7
Aur doosra ek question yeh tha ki ek particular family member ko hi bark karte rehte hain ya baaki sabko hi us hisaab se bark karte hain?
Sunny
Nahi generally hum akele hi, akele hi rehti hoon toh, toh yahi matlab akele hi rehti hoon aur mostly kabhi-kabhi koi guest aate hain ya phir koi wo hota hai toh wo mostly mere upar hi bhaunkti hai lekin uska barking unke upar bhi chal sakta hai. Lekin mostly data yahi hai ki wo mere upar hi din bhar bhaunkti rehti hai.
Speaker 7
I am done.
Sunny
Data gather karo, data gather karo, data gather karo. Main tumhe framework dunga data gather karne ke. Yes, Anshul. Bhai tumhara bhi haath khada hai. Toh yeh puraana waala khada hai ya abhi naya khada hai? Achha, achha pehle Anshul se baat kar leta hoon. Yes Anshul.
Speaker 5
Kya ghar par koi aur pet bhi hai ya sirf ek hi pet hai?
Sunny
Nahi, sirf, sirf ek wahi pet hai.
Speaker 5
Sirf ek hi pet hai.
Sunny
Haan bahut pyaari si bachhi hai. Ek hi pet hai bas. Shih Tzu hai chhoti si. Ek saal ki hai. Full chala gaya case ke andar. Okay, yes.
Speaker 5
Main poochunga ki din mein aap usko baahar chhod ke ja, akela chhod ke jaate ho ghar par ya phir agar jaate ho toh kitna der chhod ke jaate ho? Aur- Work from home hai. Kuch karte hain. All time wo available rehte hain.
Sunny
Haan matlab introvert, introvert type ki hai aur hum introvert type ke hain. Kahin baahar nahi jaate hain lekin ghar par hi rehte hain zyaadaatar.
Speaker 5
Lekin aisa akela chhod ke toh jaate rahege aap matlab ghar- Haan akela chhod ke jaate hain, shaant rehti hai.
Sunny
Aisa nahi, aisa nahi bark nahi karti. Haan shaant rehti hai. Aisa kuch nahi hai. Koi hungama nahi karti, koi cheed-faad nahi karti.
Speaker 5
Okay and also one thing ki aapka office ka time kya hai aur uske meal times kya hai? Toh matlab is it before meals office ke pehle ho rahe hain ya matlab- Nahi itni foodie nahi hai wo. Matlab meal time properly follow ho rahe hain kya?
Sunny
Follow, follow. Wo subah khaati hai ek baar hi aur ek baar shaam ko khaati hai.
Speaker 5
Okay. So meal is on time.
Sakshi
Aur kya, kya uska play time decided hai ki a-hum subah itna time khelenge ya aisa kuch?
Sunny
Haan roz raat ko hum uske saath play khelte hain, play karte hain.
Sakshi
Kitni der?
Sunny
O jitna der, aadha ghanta kareeban, aadha ghanta. 15 minute, aadha ghanta aise khelte hain uske saath.
Speaker 5
Sunny aur ek question tha ki wo agar kabhi matlab kabhi shaant baithi toh kya karne ke baad wo shaant baithi rahegi? Luckily kabhi toh shaant baithi hogi toh aisa- Khud hi khud thak kar, thak kar baithti hai. Keypad aapne type karna band kiya phir shaant ho gaye ya phir aisa kuch like laptop side mein rakh diya.
Sunny
Wo usko koi matlab hi nahi hai aas-paas ke. Wo lagataar bhaunkti rehti hai aur kuch der ke baad khud hi thak kar baithti hai aur phir thodi der mein start ho jaati hai.
Speaker 5
Abhi samjho aapne office mein login kiya and you keep the office aside aur aap uth ke kitchen mein gaye still she is barking behind you.
Sunny
Nahi tab rukti hai.
Speaker 5
So when you are going only on the laptop she is barking.
Sunny
Nahi thodi der dekhegi agar main wahin kahin khadi jaungi toh phir bark karna chaalu kar degi.
Sakshi
Toh basically jab stationary ho jaata hai uska human being tab wo a, uska barking ruk jaati hai ya thodi control ho jaati hai.
Sorry, movement aa jaata hai jab, movement aa jaata hai tab.
Sunny
Haan, kahin nahi iska matlab completely ye nahi bol sakenge ki hum ki agar hum ruke hue toh hi wo bark kar rahi hai. Wo hum kabhi chal bhi rahe toh bhi bark karna chaalu kar deti hai. Toh koi aisa wo nahi hai.
Lekin haan, jaise hum khade hote hain aur wo bark kar rahi hai toh thodi der ke liye humein dekhne lag jaati hai aur lekin phir barking karna chaalu kar degi. Lekin aisa irregular hota hai.
Aisa nahi hai ki wo subah uth ke usne niyam banaya hua hai ki itni baje bark karna hai toh main itni baje bark karungi aur itni baje tak karungi. Aisa kuch bhi nahi hai. Kabhi bhi start ho jaata hai. Ye thoda extra de diya.
Speaker 5
Usko silent karne ke liye kuch toh try kiya hoga na? Matlab like hum log achanak se walk pe lekar gaye aapne ya phir aapne kya-kya try kiya ki jisse aapko figure out karna tha?
Sunny
So jaise ab wo bark kar rahi hai toh main usko baahar lekar ja raha hoon.
Lekin isko kuch susu bhi nahi karna, isko kuch potty bhi nahi karna. Bas bahar ghoomte hain, wapas se andar aa jaate hain aur ye thodi der ke baad phir barking karna chaalu kar deti hai. So do clue, clue uh, do clue already mil chuke hain. Ek toh dono, ek toh ek clue hai timing se related, okay?
Aur ek first timing par baat karein aur ek, ek clue hai barking se related. Do clue mile yahan par. Okay, timing and barking us direction mein like badh sakte ho. Timing and barking.
Sakshi
Sorry, when you say timing uh, timing and barking.
timing ka kya matlab hai? Nahi samjha main.
Sunny
Haan, wahi toh samajhna hai aapko. Matlab nahi samjha do. Matlab sir timing ek clue hai. Okay? timing ek clue hai.
Yaani aap apne dimaag mein timing ka main just aapke liye uh, thoda easy kar raha hoon cheez ko samajhna ki timing is apni poore discussion mein timing ek clue hai plus barking is cheez ko figure out karne ka ek clue hai. Okay?
Sakshi
Toh agar main sirf uh, jaise aapne bola ki sharp and repetitive barking hai toh phir main uske liye jaaungi uh, high arousal, frustration, demand barking ke side se.
Sunny
Demand ki taraf mat jaao. Wo demand vague hai.
Sakshi
Okay.
Sunny
Demand, attention ye sab vague hai. Iski taraf nahi jaana.
Matlab agar hum kuch bhi baat kar rahe hain, we are demanding something. Getting my point?
Sakshi
Haan.
Sunny
Matlab I am demanding your attention. So demand is a vague, vague thing. Matlab usse kuch, usse kuch nahi milega apan ko. attention se kuch nahi milega apan ko. Toh apan ko in terms mein nahi jaana.
Can we say if the dog is highly aroused and energetic dog hai by default kyunki hum wo usmein divide bhi kiye the na ki hyper energetic, low energy.
Speaker 5
Toh aapka dog kaisa hai aur phir uske hisaab se kya aap bol rahe ho ki aap walk baraabar sab de rahe ho? Kya walk phir waapas structured hai, long walk se uske energy ke hisaab se... Already behaviorist ka...
Sunny
Enough walk hai.
Speaker 5
Haan, already behaviorist ka wo chal raha hai.
Sunny
Matlab jaise generally jitne bhi humare paas cases aate hain wo already aise hi matlab loop se aate hain. So already behaviorist ka wo chal raha hai. Hai na?
They are working on that this, this thing aur achhi walks mil rahi hai, structured walks ki trainings bhi mil rahi hai. More data aap logon ke paas. Lekin still barking is continuous. Barking is continuous. So barking kis tareeqe ki hai, wo ek clue hai. timing doosra clue hai. Okay? Doosra clue hai.
Yes, Kashish Bhati ji.
Speaker 3
Ismein this, this could be a question ki agar uh, jo female unki jo owner hai wo household chores kar rahi hai or maybe she is working from home. Kaam ke time par wo bark kar rahi hai. Toh what is the owner's behavior jab wo free hoti hai aur wo dog ke paas hoti hai toh how does she behave near the dog?
Like continuous pampering hota hai ya kuch aisa could this be a question?
Sunny
Continuous pampering nahi, continuous pampering nahi hota.
Wo human matlab continuous pampering nahi hota. Jab wo paas mein aati hai toh hi usko pyaar diya jaata hai aur ya phir kayi baar bula ke bhi pyaar diya jaata hai. Lekin jo human hai usko aap dekhoge toh wo itni affectionate matlab over affectionate nahi milegi aapko. Utni over affectionate nahi hai.
Reserved nature ki hai wo bhi.
Speaker 3
So the behavior of the owner can also be a question, right? Ki how does the owner behave when she has nothing to do?
Sunny
Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3
Okay.
Sunny
That can be a question. Wo ek question hai ki how does he behave kar. Toh lekin yahan par do clues hai aapke saamne aur pehla clue hai barking. Kis tareeqe ki barking hai? Kyunki barking ek communication hai. Toh usko log nahi samajh paate us barking ko.
Lekin ek behaviorist us barking ko samajhta hai ki wo barking kis tareeqe ki hai. Toh first clue hai barking. Yaani aapko barking ke baare mein jaanne ki zaroorat hoti hai ki kis tareeqe ki barking hai.
Uske upar aapko khoj. Doosri hai timing. Aap sab logon ne mujhse poocha walk ye se, lekin kisi ne timing ke upar itna dimaag nahi lagaya. Timings kya hain uski? Dekho, agar dog ko diagnose karna hai na, ye chhe cheez tumhe dobaara se bataata hoon main. Chhe cheez jiske upar sawaal poochne hote hain.
Pehli hai walk ke upar sawaal. Ek framework dimaag mein samjho is cheez ko. Okay? Pehli kya hai? Walk. Walk ke upar sawaal poochoge. Doosre ke upar hai jo hum human se poochte hain, aap dog ke saath kaise behave karte ho? Dog se kaise milte ho? Excitement kaise hai? Usko socializing bolte hain. Hai na? Wo karoge.
Teesri hai discipline. Ghar mein kya discipline dete ho? Kahin rules hain, kahin boundaries hain, kahin hain ki nahi us cheez ke, uske liye. Chautha hai play. play kaise karte ho? Kab karte ho? Kisne poocha mujhse? Sirf Moumita ji ne poocha play mujhse.
Hai na? play kisne kya aur Moumita, Moumita mujhe kab kar, kab karte ho? Kitni der tak karte ho? Ye jab aap sawaal pooch rahe ho jo agar aap walk ke poochte ho, socializing ke poochte ho, play ke sochte ho aur mere se jawaab maang rahe ho toh uska impact kya hai? Mere jawaabon ka. Hai na?
Agar main play ka pooch raha hoon aur usse mujhe ye jawaab mil raha hai toh uska impact kya hoga dog ke, dog ke upar? Paanchvein cheez aati hai affection, feeding ki hum dog ko feed kaise karte hain? Vayu ne poocha ki feed kaise karte hain? timing proper hai kya? But kahin par bhi structure nahi tha.
Sawaalon ke andar diagnose karne ke liye ek structure. Kyun? Hum bhool jaayenge. Toh humare paas ek structure hona zaroori hota hai. Structure kya? Taak, taak, taak, taak. Yeh client ko nahi pata hota. Lekin humare paas mental model hota hai is cheez ke upar.
Yeh cover ho gaya, yeh cover ho gaya, yeh cover ho gaya, yeh cover ho gaya, yeh cover ho gaya.
Abhi tak mere paas sawaal nahi aaya. Toh yeh cover ho gaya. Uske baad bhi, uske baad bhi mere paas like sawaal nahi, sorry jawaab nahi aa raha. Then again gathering, again gathering, again gathering aur agar phir bhi nahi aaya toh humare paas sawaal khatam ho gaye. Iska matlab kya hai?
Dog's ecology ki knowledge mein issue hai. You will figure it out ki kahan par issue hai. Dog's ecology ki tumhare paas saara yeh is framework se tumhare paas data aa chuka hai but you are still not able to figure out. Toh problem kidhar hai? Dog's ecology ki knowledge mein.
You have the dog's ecology ki knowledge lekin aapne yeh framework run nahi kari toh you will never be sure ki aapke paas poora data aaya ki nahi aaya. Okay. Walk ritual, socializing ritual, discipline ritual, play ritual, affection ritual and feeding ritual.
This six, this six things jiske baare mein humein data gather karna hota hai.
Now aap logon ne jab maine barking bola, barking is a big data. Big data hai ki nahi hai? Direct dog de raha hai. Direct dog de raha hai aapko data. So humein barking ke upar aur baat karni chahiye. Kis tareeqe ki barking hoti hai? Jo a-Sakshi ji ne kari ki kis tareeqe ki barking hai? Uska body structure kya hai?
Lekin phir uske baad kya? Body structure. Hum kahan par lag gaye? Attention ke upar. Hamara dimaag kahan par lag gaya? Attention seeking ke upar. Yeh word dimaag se nikaal do attention seeking. Everything is attention seeking and everything is demand. Toh phir hum kaahe ko attention aur demand ka naam lein?
But jab woh barking karte hain tab hum unko attention seeking bolte hain. Arre, woh jab aakar hamare paas baithte hain toh bhi attention maang rahe hain na. Jab humko paw kar rahe hain toh bhi attention maang rahe hain na.
Jab hamari aankhon mein dekh rahe hain toh bhi attention maang rahe hain na. Lekin barking aur is tareeqe ke destructive behavior ko hi hum attention and demand bolte hain. But aisa hai nahi. Kyunki na har cheez demand hai, har cheez attention hai.
So questions poochna bahut zyada zaroori hota hai ek case ko diagnose karne ke liye. Questions. Okay? Aur questions kis tareeqe se? Ab aap poocho kaise sawaal poochne hain? In is structure mein. Okay? Ek walk ke baare mein sawaal poochhega.
Agar hum is tareeqe se group kar rahe hain toh ek walk ke baare mein sawaal poochhega. Ek play ke baare mein sawaal poochhega. Socializing ke baare mein sawaal poochhega. Hai na? Koi feeding ke baare mein sawaal poochhega. So ab yahan se aage badho. Aage kis tarah? Do clue deta hoon.
Pehla clue hai barking aur doosra clue hai timing. So ab ismein aage badho ki kidhar kaise nikalna hai, kaise aage jaana hai.
Kaun poochhega iske baare mein ab sawaal mujhse? Barking ke baare mein kaun sawaal poochhega? Yes, Vayu.
Speaker 5
Barking ke stages kya hai? For example, a-jaise if you start getting ready for the office work or you remove your laptop toh pehle whining start hoti hai. Tab eye contact, body language kaisi hai? Phir uske baad barking kaise aage proceed hoti hai ki matlab hour kab se actual badh raha hai?
Sunny
So generally baithi rehti hai, mere ko dekhti rehti hai, hai na? Aur jaise hi main baithti hoon aur ya phir ek jagah stationary khadi ho jaati hoon ya phir agar main thodi der bhi chalti rehti hoon toh uski barking ekdam chaalu ho jaati hai. Lekin woh baithi rahegi, pace nahi karegi.
So aur kayi baar jab main usko baandh ke rakhti hoon toh uski whining chaalu ho jaayegi aur then phir uske baad barking chaalu hogi.
Speaker 5
Okay and the bark-barking is continuous like.
Sunny
Haan, barking continuous.
Speaker 5
Back to back, back to back, back to back.
Sunny
Haan, toh tere ko ab sawaal poochna padega ki barking thoda bataoge kis tareeqe ki? Tere ko example dena padega ki woh bark kis tareeqe se kar rahi hai. Apne dimaag mein soch. Apne dimaag mein dekh, dog ko dekh. Hai na? Us dog ko dekh aur main jo-jo information dete ja raha hoon na us dog ko vaisa behave karne de.
Toh tera connection ho jaaye us poori personality se.
Speaker 5
Hmm.
Sunny
Hai na? Uske behave karne de tere mind mein jo ek dog chal raha hai. Ek Shih Tzu lekar aao apne dimaag mein. Hai na? Ek Shih Tzu lekar aao aur woh dekho woh lagataar bark kar rahi hai. Hai na? Ab kisi ke dimaag mein woh ghoomti hui bark kar rahi hogi, kisi ke dimaag mein woh baith ke bark kar rahi hogi.
Toh humein uske liye data chahiye hoga. Toh woh kya kar rahi hai? Woh baithi, baithi hai, kabhi khade ho rahi hai aur apne pair zameen pe maarti hai aur "vow, vow, vow, vow, vow, vow" is tareeqe se karti hai.
So yeh kya hai behaviorist ko batana padta hai saamne waale ko ki kya woh is tareeqe se vow karti hai "vow, vow, vow, vow" is tareeqe se. Toh saamne waala bolta hai ki haan, is tareeqe se karti hai ya phir thoda whine karti hai. Toh humein whine karke batana hota hai "vow, vow, vow" is tareeqe se whine karti hai woh?
Haan, is tareeqe se whine karti hai. So is samay kya, is samay kya samajh mein aa raha hai? Agar woh is tareeqe se bark kare "vow, vow, vow, vow, vow, vow, vow, vow, vow" woh kya bol rahi hai? Woh kya bol rahi hai?
Uske poore din ki dincharya ko dekhkar aur uske is tareeqe se barking ko dekhkar toh barking is the first thing ki woh us tareeqe se bark kar rahi hai. Toh tumhare dimaag mein kisne bola tha arousal? Vayu ne bola tha. Hai na? Woh arousal aaya hua hai. Woh high aaya hua hai. Chalo, yeh cheez ko maan liya.
Frustration aaya hua hai. Ab frustration kyon aaya hua hai? Kisne apne dimaag mein sawaal poochha?
Chalo arousal maana. Hai na? Woh bark kar rahi hai, idhar hil rahi hai thoda-thoda aur a-is tareeqe se bark kar rahi hai jo frustration dikh raha hai uske andar. Lekin kyon? Hum kya sawaal poochhenge? Uski age kya hai? Kya sawaal poochhenge hum uski? Uski age kya hai? Age ki age, age se humein kya lena-dena?
Age se kaafi hadd, age behavior pe bahut zyada matter karta hai. Maante ho na yeh sab koi jaise-jaise dog bada hota hai jisse uska behavior change, behavior change hota hai. Toh hum age poochhenge. Usse kya, us-usse kya hoga? Suppose woh age uski kitni hai? Aath se nau mahine ki abhi.
Tumhein kya samajh mein aa raha hai? Is age mein dog ko kya chahiye hoga aath se nau mahine mein?
Speaker 5
Kya woh heat pe wagairah aane ke pehle aisa kuch?
Sunny
Nahi, heat pe nahi hai. Aath se nau mahine ka ek bachha socho. Okay. So dekho, ab jaise woh aath se nau mahine ka bachha hai.
Ab hamare dimaag mein kitni saari trigger ho sakti hai. Aath se nau mahine ka bachha yaani kya hoga? Usko exploration bhi chahiye hoga. Usko khelna bhi chahiye hoga. Ho sakta hai koi naye-naye toys ki taraf lekar jaaye. Ho sakta hai usko baahar jaana ho. Hai na? Like is, is umr ke bachhe kya karte hain?
Is umr ke dogs kya, kya karte hain is age ke? Toh phir hum jab yeh sochenge agar yeh hai, humne yeh soch liya ki usko yeh bhi chahiye hoga, yeh bhi chahiye hoga toh usko mil raha hai kya?
Agar usko mil raha hai toh usko kis, kitna mil raha hai, kaun se time par mil raha hai aur jab mil raha hai, jab human usko provide kar raha hai toh human ka state of mind kya hai? Human kitna eagerly woh cheez kar raha hai. Getting my point? Kis, kis direction mein lekar jaate hain.
Toh tumhein is case ko solve karna samjhata hoon pehla. Pehla dog ko sabse zyada bharosa karna, human ko nahi.
Okay? Ab yahan par hum dog ko sabse zyada kya bharosa kar sakte hain? Uski bark ko, nothing else. Hum dog ke saath reh nahi rahe toh hum kis par kya, kis par bharosa kar sakte hain? Dog ki bark ko. Dog ki bark kaisi hai? Arousal hai, frustration hai. Okay? Aur uska body language kya?
Woh is tareeqe se baar-baar kar rahi hai. Ek pair aise rakhti hai, ek pair aise rakhti hai. Toh yeh kya ho raha hai? Dog play karne ke liye bol raha hai. Kya karne ke liye bol raha hai? Dog play karna chahta hai. Dog koi activity karna chahta hai. Lekin jo uski human hai woh kya hai?
Woh din bhar kaam karti rehti hai aur dog, aur human ko, human usko khilati kab hai? Raat ko aur raat ko jab khilati hai toh human ka state of mind kya hota hai? Thaka hua. Lekin dog kya hai? Aath se nau mahine ki.
Usko thaka hua mind chalega aur raat ko ek baari play chalega kya? Nahi chalega. Usko tum kitni bhi walk de lo, wo theek hogi kya? So wo behaviorist jiske under ye sab kaam kar rahi thi, wo sirf walk par focus kar rahe the aur usko din bhar walks kara rahe the. Lekin wo shaant nahi ho rahi thi.
Uske play ke sessions increase kiye gaye. Okay? Uske play ke sessions increase kiye. Ek play karti thi, lekin ab subah uthte hi jab aap ek achhe mood mein ho toh uske saath play karo. Not aakhir mein. Ye timing hai na. So humne timing change karayi play ki aur uski qua-quantity change karayi.
Humne usko teen baari karaya play ko. Yes, Sakshi ji.
Sakshi
Sorry, a, jab usko raat mein, a, uski human play karwa rahi hai tab ek ye bhi bada factor ho sakta hai ki jab human toh chale gaye apne sleep zone mein hai wo resting wale mein.
But ye dog again poora stimulated ho raha hai. Toh uske liye toh din khatam hi nahi ho raha hai.
Sunny
Uske baad wo so jaati hai. Hai na? Uske baad so jaati hai. Lekin phir din bhar se uska, ye dekho ye again ek aur data aaya na. Ab jo aapne sawaal poocha. Wo khelne ke baad wo so jaati hai.
Sakshi
Okay.
Sunny
Lekin phir subah se bhi chaalu ho jaata hai. Lekin wo khelne ka jo timing tha wo completely wrong tha.
Sakshi
Right.
Sunny
Hai na? Wo wrong tha timing. Timing raat ko tha jab human thak jaati thi. Dog aath se nau mahine ka hai. Usko ek high wo chahiye tha ki uske saath high energy mein koi khel sake. So walk kam karayi gayi. Abhi ismein kya bolte hain log? Kya bolte hain ye sab? Walk zyada kara do.
General, general theory kya bolti hai ismein? Walk zyada kara do. Lekin ismein walk kam karayi gayi aur play ko increase kiya gaya.
Dog shaant ho gayi. Dog relaxed ho gayi. Hum subah khelte the uske saath, dopahar mein khelte the, hum shaam ko khelte the. That's it.
Sakshi
That's it.
Sunny
Lekin, haan, yeah that's it. Itna tha. Uska play sessions usko properly nahi mil rahe the. Play sessions. Toh play sessions mein problem thi. Baaki saari ri-- kyunki already wo behaviorist ke through aare-aare, aayi hui thi.
So walk poori hui hui thi, feeding ka proper hua hua tha, lekin play par dhyaan nahi tha kisi ka. Ki dog ke liye play kitna zaroori hai aur us umra ke liye play kitna zaroori hai aur play ki timing kitna zyada zaroori hai. Toh logon ko lagta hai ki bas ek baar play kar liya that's it enough. No, aisa nahi hota.
Aapki state kya hai play ke liye? Jo Kashish Bhatia ji ne poocha tha is human ki state. Human ki state matter karti hai. Raat ko human ki state kya hogi subah se lekar raat tak kaam karne ke baad?
Wo khelna chahega kya?
Speaker 5
Drained out.
Sunny
Play kaisa hota hai? Dono party ka active participation, active participation. Agar ek ka active participation nahi hoga toh ye kya ho jaayegi? Go-bore. Lekin dog kya tha? High playful dog aur usko ek bore human mila. Toh phir kya karna padega? Human ko apni approach change karni padegi.
So human ko din mein teen baar a, aur motive se intention se uske saath khelna padega. Not just khela. Unko ye bataya gaya ki dog ko ye samajh mein aata hai aur phir examples bhi diye gaye ki agar aapke saath koi play kar raha hai aur wo aise hi play kar raha hai like bas naam ke liye how will you feel?
Matlab aap wo play continue rakhoge kya? Lekin aapke paas toh different log hain, lekin us dog ke paas sirf aap hi ho.
Toh usko toh karna hi padega na. Usko toh play chahiye, uski toh drive hai. So teen baar play ritual karayi gayi aur ye issue solve hua. Not from this walks, not from obedience kyunki wo bahut obedient bachhi thi. Bahut obedient bachhi hai wo. Hai na? Wo ba-jab bolo bol, wo chupchaap baith jaati hai.
Kuch ghar mein saamaan nahi phaadti, kuch bhi nahi karti. Lekin lagaataar bark karti aur uska ek hi kaaran tha ki meri umra nikli ja rahi hai. Mujhe kab khelne ko milega? Sirf itne kaaran tha uska. Hai na?
Toh uske khelne ke sessions badhaye gaye aur wo ekdam achhi bachhi jo uski achhi nat-natural state thi uski usmein aa gayi. Barking, warking sab band ho gaya. So that was a, matlab unke liye kaafi miracle tha ye. Lekin you got it point na ki kitna, hum kaise step by step karke solve kar sakte hain.
Humaare paas agar ek framework hai toh. So dogs ecology ki agar aapke paas knowledge hogi plus ye data gathering, this is the most important thing, data gathering.
Toh data gathering kaise karna hai uski ye rituals hain aur in rituals ko hum jab follow karte hain toh hum e, ho sakta hai pehli baar mein aapko ye sab cheez samajh mein nahi aayegi kaise humein karna hai.
Lekin jab hum ye rituals ko follow karke hi questions poochhte hain toh humein like achha data milta hai aur isi data ko hum us dog ke upar bhi implement karte hain toh humein achhe results milte hain. Okay? Yes, Vayu.
Speaker 5
Yes, Sunny. So aapne abhi play teen time unko suggest kiya lekin abhi uski agar deep dive karte hain toh play ka structure aapne phir kaise bataya? For example, abhi ab jo kisi ne bol diya teen baar play karao toh aadmi apne energy ke baare mein bhi bataye ki you are equally involved.
Lekin bahut log play start aur end bahut galat karte hain. Abruptly end karke chale jaate hain. Toh maine observe kiya ki abruptly Brownie ka bhi jab end hota hai toh still wo usi stage mein hai. Toh usmein aap thoda bata sakte ho aap kaise bataye unko?
Sunny
Haan, matlab again wo jo play ritual ki humaari poori ki poori theory rehti hai. Wo play ritual ki poori ki poori theory batayi jaati hai unko. Like for example, jab bhi aap dog ke saath khel rahe ho toh shaanti se start karo. Then uske baad dog ke saath khelo. Ab dog ko kya khel pasand hai?
Kisi ko fetch pasand hota hai, hai na? Kisi ko tug of war pasand hota hai. Isko tug of war pasand tha. Toh hum pehle wahaan poochhte hain isko kya pasand tha? Usko tug of war pasand tha. Kisi ko flirt pool pasand hai. So tug of war khelo aur beech mein obedience practice karo.
Lekin shuruwaat ke kuch time ke liye bhool jaao sab cheezein aur sirf usko play do aur kuch bhi mat karo. Toh lekin over a period time, teen-chaar din ke baad start in, kyunki abhi toh uski bhari hui hai na.
Wo pent up energy hai na uske andar. Toh sure, toh shuruwaat mein sirf khelne ko mila. Jo jitna khelna hai khelo. Lekin uske baad play with obedience start karo. So this way play with obedience is like aap play karte ho shuruwaat mein, shaanti se start karte ho aur ek dog ko ek higher stage par lekar jaate ho.
A, wo higher arousal par lekar jaate ho aur wahaan par usko shaant karaate ho. Usko obedience bolte hain. Wahaan par usko shaant karaate ho, khud bhi shaant hote ho. Ek baar jab aap bhi shaant ho, dog bhi shaant hai, uske baad play ko waapas se restart karte ho. So aise sets chalte hain.
Teen-chaar sets chalte hain a, dog ke saath and then dog phir uske baad aap uske baad band karte ho play ko, toh aap waapas se calm down karke play band kar sakte ho. Toh is tareeqe se poori play ritual, poori play ritual hai. Toh ye chhah rituals hain aur iske baare mein more aapko third module mein milega.
But this is the framework jisse hum diagnose karte hain aur maine bahut baar calls mein aapke saamne ya Instagram par bhi aapne kayi baar suna hoga rituals of dogs ke maine PDF bhi aap logon ke saath share kari hui hai aur usme questions bhi I think share hai ya phir steps, steps hai.
Steps hai uske andar ki kaise dog ke saath hume behave karna chahiye as per these rituals. So that was the case aur ye case ab simple lagega aapko lekin us samay mere liye complex tha solve karne ke liye. Matlab jab maine pehli baar is cheez ko solve kiya tha ki like kaafi mere liye bhi miracle type ki cheez thi.
But as it is, mere ko kaafi cheez samajh mein aane lagi ki dogs mein play bahut zyada important karta hai. Hai na? Toh aise jab cases aane lage tab samajh mein aane lagega ki hum kayi baar hum exercise par dhyaan de rahe hote hain ya phir kayi baar hum sirf discipline par dhyaan de rahe hote hain.
Lekin play hi, play unke liye equally important hai. Not just ki walk sabse zyada important hai ya kisi-kisi dog ke andar play drive bahut zyada hoti hai aur unko play karna bahut zyada zaroori ho jaata hai shaant rehne ke liye. Yes, Vaayu.
Speaker 5
Toh maine started toh- Vaayu, Vaayu, sorry, one second. Yes, yes. Haan.
Speaker 3
Sunny bhai, uh, ye aap jo bhi PDF hai, documents hai, aap ek baar complete sab kuch share kar dijiye na matlab. I don't have an access. Mujhe nahi pata. Pichhli baar bhi apna kuch baat hua tha ki aap kuch share karoge.
Sunny
Ye isme, is, hai na, apne community ke andar hi na ek courses and resources karke wo hai, wo topic hai aur usi ke andar main PDF share karta rehta hoon aur uske andar kaafi PDF hai. Uh, wo tum check kar sakte ho. Rituals of dogs se lekar aur care guide, meal recipes and all this. I will keep on sharing.
Mere paas bahut saari bani hui hai yaar PDF.
Speaker 3
Ye second, second batch humne jaise join kiya toh aapne ab, hum, hum jab se join hue hain uske pehle ka data bhi dikhega kya isme?
Sunny
Haan, saara data dikhega aur maine onboarding ke time par actually tum sabko ye waapas diya bhi tha. Main ek aur video create bhi kar dunga ki kaise access karna hai. Toh community ke andar hi hai. Saara puraana data aapke saamne available hai. Okay.
Speaker 3
Bahut-bahut thank you.
Sunny
Okay, bye. Yes, Vaayu, tell me.
Speaker 5
So I was asking ki jaise aapne case start kiya toh sabne apne-apne questions poochhe. Toh it seemed ki everything was perfect, dog is also perfect. Toh phir wahan par ek na dead end aa gaya tha ki phir issue kya hai ki bhonk raha hai. Phir hum log attention bol rahe the, wo bhi nahi bolna hai. Toh- Right.
Phir aap jab case ke liye gaye the, jaise aapne bola aapke liye bhi kuch naya tha, jaise ye tha. Toh aapko phir kaise wo click hua? Ya phir aapne aise alag kya socha ki it, it must be the play thing ya phir matlab aapki soch kya thi tab dekhiye to derive to a conclusion?
Sunny
Yaar, matlab very serious matlab obviously meri knowledge ka toh ye hai hi sahi.
Lekin jab us dog ka photo dekha, actual mein main kya karta hoon? Matlab dog ka photo dekhta hoon. Dog ko apne andar lekar aata hoon, apne dimaag mein lekar aata hoon. Usse sawaal poochhta hoon kya chahiye tujhe? Matlab mera first perspective ye rehta hai ki tere ko kya chahiye? Hai na? Tujhe kya chahiye?
Tujhe kis cheez ki hai? Toh phir matlab it's like yahan se start karta hoon main. Toh yahan se start karta hoon and apne mind ko open karta hoon uske liye ki tu mujhe bata tujhe kya chahiye? This is the first mera mind open hona start hota hai. Uh, s-s, ab wo koi aur bhi language, kisi bhi language mein ho.
But main ye samajhta hoon ki human ka jo mind hai, wo kaafi subconscious mind humaara, wo kaafi powerful hai and wo figure out kar sakta hai aise permutation and combination apni knowledge ke hisaab se. So the pehli step toh ye aati hai ki main apne mind ko open karun us dog ke liye ki tujhe kya chahiye?
Mujhe bata. Main teri baat sunne ke liye completely rea-ready hoon aur mere haath mein jo bhi cheezein ho sakegi, main teri help karunga. So this is the first thing jo mere dimaag mein jaata. Ab tune poochha toh main poochh raha hoon kaise hota hai mere dimaag.
Speaker 5
Aur mujhe ek point jab click hua tha ki maine aapko poochha tha ki main client ko poochhunga ki jab wo bhonka, aapne itne time mein kya-kya cheezein try ki usko shaant karne ke liye. Toh aapne bola ki unhone walk par lekar gaye wagairah.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 5
Toh itne time mein kya aise ek baar bhi nahi hua ki unhone uske saath play try kiya tha to- Nahi. Calm him down? Nahi.
Sunny
Nahi. Play kabhi bhi try nahi ki unhone.
Speaker 5
Session ke andar ho sakta tha, hai na?
Sunny
Ya aur raat, wo- Session ke andar ho bhi sakta tha. Lekin phir bhi diagnose nahi ho paata na. Agar wo play try bhi kar lete na toh actual mein diagnose nahi ho paata us samay par. Kyunki walk par le, le jaate ho toh thodi der baithti hai.
Lekin ek din tumne play try kar liya aur agle din tumhaare paas lekin strategy nahi hai ki play is the main priority.
Toh phir tum usko priority waapas se nahi do. So ye figure out karne ke liye ki bhai ye actual mein ho kyon raha hai? Diagnose ho kyon raha hai? So first of all, hume apna mind open karna hota hai ki kisi bhi cheez ke liye, kisi bhi sawaal ke liye, kisi bhi questions ke liye.
Aur zaroori nahi wo dogs ke liye, lekar hai. Life mein kisi bhi cheez ke liye, agar tumhe kisi bhi cheez ka solution chahiye na, you first have to This thing open. Ye cheez ke liye aur wo open gaya. Hum apne dimaag ko kuch bhi bol sakte hain yaar kuch bhi like isko kya bolte hain?
Wo bolte hain na affirmation type ki koi cheez bolte hain na jisse mind aap logon ne suna hoga kind of thing hai na ki hum kuch is tareeqe se bolte hain.
so main apne mind ko open karne ke liye ya koi bhi mere saamne problem aati hai na, sabse pehle us problem ko tackle karne se pehle apne mind ko open karta hoon us problem ke liye. so there are few like koi Krishnamurti ji ko jaanta hai?
JD Krishnamurti ji spiritual ke discourse diya karte the. Unki ek line thi aur wahan se main seekha tha actual mein ki problem ka solution problem tumhaare tumhe problem ki kitni understanding hai us par depend karta hai.
so that's a problem ki understanding humaare andar kab aayegi jab humaara mind problem ke oopar like khulega. so first thing agar kisi bhi case mein jaate ho na open your mind, open your mind kaise ki tum apne jaise dogs ke liye main apna open mind kaise karta hoon?
Main dog se poochhta hoon main teri help karne ke aaya hoon. Tujhe kya chahiye tu mujhe bata. Teri body structure jaanunga, teri sab cheez dekhunga. Jitni meri knowledge hai us hisaab se main tere ko help karunga. so this is the first aur main apne matlab wo oath type nahi hoti.
Ye in sab cheezon ka actual mein dimaag par fark padta hai. like dimaag humaara different tareeqe se behave karta hai jab hum kuch is tareeqe se baat karke aage badhte hain toh.
Hai na agar agar hum is tareeqe se baat karte hain yaar ye problem solve hogi nahi. Yaar ye aisa kyon kar raha hai? Yaar ye attention maang raha hai kya? Toh hume solutions nahi milenge kyunki humne pehle apna mind open hi nahi kiya.
Humne usko band kar liya kisse attention ke naam se, demand ke naam se humne pehle hi band kar liya. gather karne se pehle band conclusion aa gaya. Gaadi ko ghode ke saamne rakh diya kind of thing ho gaya toh.
Hai na so data gathering ka pehli cheez hai aur jab hum unse sawaal poochhte hain toh hum isi maqsad se poochhte hain ki hum data gather kar sake aur uske liye framework kaam aati hai. okay but mind open karne ka is a separate thing hai ki tumhaara mind open ho sake us cheez ke liye wo ek separate thing hai.
so I think that's it that's the question tha ki kaise-kaise hua so first - Sorry Sunny aap mere liye ek baar thoda waapas thoda sa chhota summary bata doge.
Speaker 8
Mera phone switch off ho gaya tha and I couldn't I was in the middle of the call aur poora chala gaya. Jo bhi aapne miss ho gaya.
Sunny
summary kahan se jaayenge? Aapko pata chala dog mein kya issue tha?
Speaker 8
Mujhe ye samjha ki uska play issue tha ki koi structured play nahi thi. Matlab aap sab baat kar rahe the toh maine aise samjha ki aisa tha.
Sunny
Uska sabse bada wo dekho wo 8 se 9 mahine ki thi. Ab 8 se 9 mahine mein ek dog ko kya chahiye hota hai? dog ko exploration chahiye hota hai. dog ko play bhi chahiye hota hai. Lekin jab wo bark kar rahi thi, us bark mein arousal tha plus frustration tha.
Ab wo male toh hai nahi aur neutered toh hai nahi aur heat mein toh hai nahi. Toh frustration kyon aaya jab dog ko itna walk de rahe hain aur wo arousal ka matlab kya hai? Yaani arousal ka matlab uske andar oorja zyada hai toh kya wo cheezon ko hunt karke nahi, lekin wo khel-khelti kaise?
Wo bahut achha khelti hai. Aap khel kab dete ho? Aap raat ko khel dete ho. Jab aap raat ko khel dete ho, aapka state of mind kya rehta hai? Bahut dull rehta hai. Toh dog ke saath aap ek dull play kar rahe ho toh dog aapki bore ho rahi hai because aap uske saath ek active play nahi kar paa rahe ho.
Toh phir humne uska strategy di ki subah uthkar play karo jab aapka mood achha ho. not jab kaam jab boss ki taaliyan khaali ho, uske baad aap uske saath play kar rahe ho. Toh subah khelo aur uske saath achha khelo. Din mein khelo aur raat ko khelo aur walk ko kam karo. Kyunki walk-walk badha rahe ho, usse wo thakegi.
Lekin usko khel chahiye aur wo khelegi bhi sahi toh beemar ho jaayegi. Bukhaar aa jaayega usko. Matlab itni saari baatein discuss nahi hui thi. Ye sab call mein jab cheezein baatein discuss hui.
Speaker 8
Haan toh main thoda sa isse relate kar paayi. sorry sorry nahi nahi aap complete kar lo.
Sunny
Yeah that's it haan wo isliye play ka issue tha.
Speaker 8
Toh main thoda sa isko relate kar paa rahi thi because my dog Charlie toh ye raat mein rehte rehte humko samjha. initially humko bhi nahi samajhta tha. Toh kabhi kabhaar agar office se aane ke baad mein main mere husband agar aise hi aakar baith gaye hain, walk ho gaya hai, sab ho gaya hai toh phir bhi wo bhaunkta tha.
Bhaunkta tha aur humko samajh nahi aata tha ki bhaunk kyon raha hai. Aur wo phir baad mein jab aur hum nahi samajhne lage in spite of barking so much toh wo apne munh se hamara haath bahut force se pakadta tha.
Bahut force se aur aise lagta tha ki wo drag karke kuch bataana chaah raha hai aur hum samajh hi nahi paa rahe. Toh rehte rehte wo samjha ki play chahiye usko. Jab bhi hum wo karne lag gaye toh he stopped.
Toh isiliye jab bhi aapne bola ki wo baithne par bhaunkti hai toh mujhe aur questions dimaag mein nahi because aaj mere ghar par thoda distraction hai toh main focus nahi kar paa rahi thi.
but mujhe wahi poochhna tha ki random play hai ya kaisa play karte hain? Kya karte hain? that is why jaise hi aapne wo case bataaya ki baithne par bhaunkti hai toh I could directly related to my dog ki initially hamare saath hota tha.
Hum jab bhi baithte the, wo bhaunkne lag jaata tha aur hum sochte the ki baithne par kyon bhaunkta hai hamesha.
Sunny
Toh that's the wo aapka experience-aapke experience ki wajah se aapko click ho gaya same as same as jab aapne sawaal poochha, maine kaha arey pakde gaye toh but uske oopar aage gaye.
Speaker 8
Mujhe poochhna tha aur mujhe poochhna tha but main nahi poochh paayi. Aap right question.
Sunny
Uske baad toh see dekho hum aap sab ye sab cheezein pakdoge na like apne experience ke according pakdoge aur hum yahan par jab discuss karenge na wo collected experience banta hai.
Speaker 8
right.
Sunny
Toh jab ab again life mein aapke paas aisa case aayega na you will have the data ki kya sawaal poochhne hai aur kaise cheezon ko figure out karna hai.
Lekin zaroori nahi ki wo play ke liye kar raha hoon. Aapko pata chalega ki usko walk hi nahi mil rahi hai. Bahut saare cases mein wo same cheez kar raha hai lekin walk nahi mil rahi hai. Usko walk nahi mil rahi hai. Toh hum phir walk se start karte hain. Phir play par baad mein jaate hain.
Toh that's a good good good thing aur ye good case tha overview karne ke liye. Aise bahut saare cases hain. we will discuss more. yes ek baat.
Speaker 8
Okay.
Sakshi
Mera ek question ye tha ki jab aap play de rahe ho, aapne usko teen baar play diya toh ek toh puppy waali age mein hai toh wo anyways uska thoda arousal mein rahega right. Toh is situation mein mental enrichment kitna help karta hai?
Sunny
See again dekhiye matlab it's like ki mental enrichment again ek human ka term hai, vague term hai.
hai na mental enrichment. Har cheez mental enrichment hai. Matlab agar aap lagaataar ek hi cheez ya matlab jo jaise mental enrichment it's like matlab agar aap us strategy se ja rahe hain jaise mental enrichment bola uska matlab kya koi is tareeqe se play kiye ja rahe hain uske saath jisse uska snuffle mat ho gaye.
Aapka kya matlab hai mental enrichment se aapki kya strategy hai?
Sakshi
Haan, isi tarah ki kuch activities ki-ki jaise shred karne ke liye kisi mein aap involve ho gaye uske saath. A-ya idhar-udhar thoda sa scent work karwa diya is tarah se.
Sunny
Active activity man. Isko active activity bol sakte hain ki apan kuch actively uske saath like koi activity cre-- kar rahe hain. Toh ab ek cheez dekhiye jaise bachhe suppose kar lo insaan ke bachhe. Hai na insaan ke bachhe learning educational waale play bhi kar sakte hain.
hai na ek education waala play hota hai jismein wo kuch seekhte hain. Abhi mental enrichment ke baare mein hum kya baat kar rahe hain? Kuch puzzles ko kholna this is mental enrichment ya kuch snuffle ko karna. Lekin ek insaan ka bachha sirf kya yahi kar sakta hai? Ya phir sirf usko like usko yahi game chalenge?
Nahi na, usko phisal patti par bhi jhoolne ka hai. hai na usko yeh bhi karne ka hai. Usko is tareeqe se usko apne parents ke saath actively part bhi lene-le-le-lena hai.
So mental enrichment generally jab walks nahi mil rahe hain ya phir jab wo mentally bahut zyada like usko, usko confidence lekar aana hai toh bhi mental enrichment kaam aa sakte hain. Wo play ke dauraan bhi kaam aa sakte hain. Lekin is particular case mein main mental enrichment ka wo nahi bolunga.
Main seedha play ka session ka bolunga ki is dog ke saath aap play kijiye.
I mean it's like mental enrichment is like kuch games hote hain and again kuch snuffle mats hoti hain ya phir koi puzzles ke games hote hain ya phir aap uske liye kuch puzzle banaate ho that is good that is that works. But is case mein just play ki zaroorat thi, just play ki zaroorat thi.
Toh again mental enrichment iska ek alag part ek up-up waala part hai.
Sakshi
Okay toh kya ismein jaise yeh situation hai agar hum breed specific baat karein toh Shih Tzu broadly is a companion aur lap dog ke liye zyada usne matlab bred kiya gaya tha. right companionship ke liye basically.
Sunny
Lhasa Apso se nikle hue hain. Lhasa Apso are terriers. Terriers matlab hunters, they are hunters. Haan.
Sakshi
Tabhi wo zyadatar usko tug wagairah khelna mein- Yeah. -zyada interest hai.
Sunny
Shih Tzu ko tugs bhi pasand hote hain. Ye logon ko pata nahin hai jaise ab breeds ki poori history bana raha tha tab main breeds saari read kar raha tha aur sahi toh maine Shih Tzu ka bhi dekha aur Shih Tzu ka maine dekha are ye toh Lhasa Apso se nikli hui hai.
Lhasa Apso isliye bahut saare Shih Tzu is like unke andar hunting ke instincts rehte hain. Wo itne chhote hote hain nahin hote, wo rats ko pakadne ke liye bhaagte hain Shih Tzu. Ya koi cheez move hoti hai toh uski taraf pakadne ke liye unke andar hunting instincts hain Lhasa Apso ki.
Sakshi
Okay understood. Thank you.
Sunny
Yes Anshul.
Speaker 4
They are also used to, used in a monastery for protection of the inner sanctum of the monastery na.
Sunny
Wo Lhasa Apso hai.
Speaker 4
Haan yes, yes, yes, yes.
Sunny
Yes, yes toh wo Lhasa Apso like wo alert bhi karte hain na toh wo oopar rehte the. Toh inke monasteries mein ghere hote the. The first ghera is Tibetan Mastiff.
Speaker 4
Yes, yes. So they are, they are inside the last center like the a-cent-- core of the monastery so they used to be protecting that part of.
Sunny
Alert, yeah wo kaafi alert karte the. Wo, wo deewaron ke oopar hote the aur v-wahan se wo kaafi sense kar sakte the neeche like dekh sakte the cheezon ko lekar. Hai na toh unki nose itni tagdi nahin thi. Lekin koi bhi movement hota tha uske liye wo alert zaroor karte the Lhasa Apso.
Toh Lhasa Apso ka hai wo and wo lekin agar genes is bachchi mein aate hain Shih Tzu mein aate Lhasa Apso ke toh wo kahin dekh nahin rahi. Wo wahin baithi hai aur wo human ko saamne dekhkar bark kar rahi hai. Toh Lhasa Apso ka genes ko hum nullify kar sakte hain ki wo alert waali cheez nahin hai iske andar.
Barking same ho sakti hai us cheez se lekin wo alert waali cheez nahin hai uske andar. Okay? That's it guys kaisa tha aaj ka case study mein samajh mein aaya?
Speaker 4
Yes, yes.
Sunny
Hai na samajh mein aaya kaise solve karna hai. Okay?
Speaker 4
How to collect data.
Sunny
Yeah, data collection, collection engineer ko samajh mein aa sakta hai Anshul, haan. Data collect, data collect kaise karna hota hai sabse pehle. So data collection is the first thing. A-data collection karne ke liye hamare paas framework honi chahiye.
So main bhi engineer hoon toh again mere paas frameworks aur in sab cheezon ka like first wo rehta hai ki main kaise framework bana sakoon and then kaise us par tak, tak, tak, tak, tak karke usko khatam kar sakoon ki haan framework completed now what?
So framework is like aapka logical thing, dog psychology is your art. Okay? Usmein kuch logic nahin hai that's a wo ek document hai aapke mind mein ek bahut bada document hai. Lekin this is aapke checklist, rituals of dogs.
So rituals of dogs hamare paas checklist aati hai, ek deterministic cheez aati hai hamare paas ki haan ye determine, ye, ye ho gaya, ye ho gaya, ye ho gaya.
Uske baad hamare paas dogs psychology ki knowledge hai. Un dono ko combine karke ek solution nikalta hai. Lekin agar aapki idhar problem hai, idhar problem hai toh solution ki quality mein dikkat hai. Okay?
So agar solution ki quality increase karni hai toh aap data gathering se bhi qua-increase kar sakte ho and dogs psychology ki knowledge se bhi improve kar sakte ho. Dono, dono taraf se. So two options rehte hain aur ek solutions aapka is par humein continuous work karna padta hai.
So data gathering ki jab hum framework samajh mein aa jaati hai toh hamara work easy ho jaata hai. So logic ek baar samajh mein aa gaya logic easy hota hai na. Lekin art ke saath aisa kaam nahin. Hai na? Art is ongoing. Wo continuously aapko karna padega. Aapke paas logic se aap solve data gather kar loge.
Lekin jo half part hai wo art hai. Okay? Wo continuously humein uske oopar work karna hota hai, wo practice karni hoti hai aur wo hai dogs psychology.
Okay? Dogs psychology ki understanding, dogs psychology ki observation. Okay? That's it guys aaj ke liye. Aaj itna hi, itna hi tha case study aap logon ke saamne lekar aani thi aur main aaj aapke saath link share kar doonga.
Toh jitne bhi log first batch mein hain aur unka evaluation baaki hai please kar lijiyega next Saturday ko slots hai. Toh next Saturday ke slot aur achha aur agle-- are Saturday ka slot tha, Sunday ka slot tha?
Sakshi
Saturday.
Sunny
Okay aur agle hafte se a-this thing kya bolte hain? Wed-Wednesday ko rakh lete hain ek call. Hai na weekend par lagaataar nahin, a-weekend par lagaataar nahin rakhte. Ek weekday par rakh lete hain taaki itna lamba bhi nahin ho. Pehle Friday ko rehta tha toh poora week nikal jaata tha.
So ek beech mein rakh lete hain aur ek Saturday ya Sunday?
Sakshi
Saturday.
Sunny
Saturday aur ek Saturday ko rakh dete hain. Toh slots ko Sunday ko karna padega wo toh.
Okay. So ek Saturday ko rakh lete hain. Theek hai? So next week se Wednesday aur Saturday ko hum milte hain aur please mujhe abhi group mein aap sab log ne kuch summary likhkar batao ki aapko kya cheez samajh mein aayi is case ke baare mein. Matlab give me some inputs ki aapko kya samajh mein aaya case kya tha?
Ki case ek Shih Tzu ka tha, uska ek issue kya tha? Ek doosre se copy paste mat karo lekin apna isse kya hoga na aapka dimaag mein like more information aayegi jaise aap type karna start karoge ya kuch bhi dimaag ko waapas se is cheez ke oopar bhejoge. Just phone rakh ke chale mat jaao bas paanch minute aur de lo.
Phone rakhne ke baad meeting ke baad paanch minute, 10 minute, paanch minute aur de lo aur us paanch minute mein is case ke baare mein bata do ki aapko kya learn karne ko mila. Okay? Okay? Okay? Har koi toh bolo.
Sakshi
Haan ji, haan ji.
Speaker 4
Yes, yes. Yes sir.
Sakshi
Yes.
Sunny
All right guys that's it aaj ke liye itna hi. Thank you so much for joining. Bye, bye.
Sakshi
Thank you.
Speaker 4
Thank you everyone.
Sakshi
Thank you bye.
Speaker 4
Bye.

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More calls on behavioural

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Breaking up dog fights, calm hands, and the business of dog care