Pro group call
Resource guarding, the collar lift, and the puppy socialising gap
- Fri 12 Jun 2026
- 1 hr 38 min
The call opened with a group review of Manya's video handling her dog Betty's resource guarding of a yaky, which Sunny used to teach a psychology-first, non-physical collar technique based on the principle that a dog can only focus on one thing at a time. The discussion expanded into Adarsh's six-month-old German Shepherd puppy who had been kept indoors for vaccination reasons and badly needed exploration before leash training. The back half of the call focused on the market-wide gap in puppy socialising and awareness, with ideas for building puppy groups and partnering with vets to reach owners before behavioural issues develop, plus a segment on nutrition and vet SOPs around vomiting. The call closed with a raw personal exchange where a member shared feeling emotionally depleted while supporting clients, and Sunny gave advice on processing suppressed emotion.
Key points (6)
- A dog can only focus on one thing at a time, so collar corrections should be made calmly while the dog stays engaged with the object rather than through tug of war.
- Behaviourists should win psychologically, not physically, because a dog's body is stronger than a human's but a human's mind is the real advantage.
- Keeping a puppy indoors for six months to wait out vaccination can cause lasting behavioural damage because exploration and socialising needs are missed in a critical window.
- Exercise and discipline are the two needs most often missing in pet dogs, and fulfilling a dog's current need must come before giving any commands.
- There is a big business and awareness opportunity in building puppy socialising groups and partnering with vets, since that is where new puppy owners can be reached early.
- Clear, repeated, unhurried communication builds associative memory in dogs, while rushing or snatching objects teaches snapping instead of compliance.
- On the call
- Manya, Sunny, Aadarsh, Payu, Tapti, Adarsh, Sakshi, speaker_5, and others
Resource guarding, the collar lift, and the puppy socialising gap
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Transcript
Hindi written in English letters. The audio is the record.
Speaker 1
Very nice overall but mujhe aisa lagta hai ki wahan par pakad ke rakh sakte the us bachche ko.
Manya
Achha uske pehle bhi usne ek baar chhod diya tha. But us time par maine immediately maine thoda jaldbaazi kar di aur maine immediately lene gayi toh woh waapas uthi meri taraf aur usko lena matlab woh lene aayi yaky. So us time par maine thodi jaldbaazi kar di thi.
Waapas phir iske baad maine yeh poora process kiya matlab usko try kiya. But main chhod rahi thi because woh poora like bite karne aa rahi thi aur mujhe tension yeh nahi ki woh mere ko kaat legi toh kuch hoga. But mere ko yeh hai ki mere ghar waale mujhe daantenge agar woh mujhe kaat gayi toh.
Sirf mere liye hi zyaada tension thi.
Sunny
Abhi fundamentals ka yahan par sab techniques ki baat kar rahe hain.
Fundamentals ka issue hai. Kya Pal?
Speaker 4
Toh abhi start video mein tha ki woh Betty ke paas yaky padi thi. Usne usko like apne space mein claim kar rakha tha. But Manya bhi us space mein aa chuki thi.
Toh instead of collar ka interaction agar woh sirf us yaky ko claim karke sirf body language aur usne agar peeche bhejti toh woh wahan par bhi Betty ko shaant kar sakti thi. Instead of getting into the collar interaction.
Sunny
Woh Betty dhyaan hi nahi deti thi Manya par. Kuch bhi kar rahi hoti. Betty lagi rehti chabaane ke us cheez mein. Toh Manya ko, wahan par yaky thodi idhar padi hui thi.
Speaker 4
Matlab maine usmein dekha tha.
Sunny
Jaise like agar dog jis tareeqe se baithi hai, us tareeqe se agar woh lagi rehti hai toh tum uske aas-paas ghoomte rahoge, idhar-udhar karte rahoge toh woh nahi hilegi. Haath and woh hilegi nahi, wahan se uthegi nahi. Woh kahegi, "Hai na tera mann pade jo tu kar le, main toh chabaungi." Woh that kind of thing.
Toh woh nahi maanegi. Sakshi ji aap kya bologee?
Speaker 1
So I think primarily toh jo meri understanding hai usmein Manya obviously well done, kaafi amazing. But I think sabse pehle aapko apne dog ko aise basic cheezein jo hoti hai, jismein leave it command ek primary command hai, woh aapko sikhaana chahiye.
Second jo mujhe laga ki aapka collar jo tha na dog ka jab aap usko kheench rahe the, woh bahut ekdum throat par tha. Woh thoda sa aur aage hona chahiye tha. Isliye jab aap usko pressure bhi de rahe the na toh woh samajh nahi paa rahi thi.
Aur aisi situation mein aap thoda sa jaise collar aise aap sirf aise pull kar rahe ho na basically. Aapko pressure badhaana hota hai, halka sa usko twist...
I am so sorry, I think main Yes Aadarsh.
Sunny
Aadarsh?
Aadarsh
Sir, usmein barter system bhi kar sakte the, ek aur baat.
Sunny
Haan.
Aadarsh
Kuch aur cheez usko jo interest hai.
Sunny
Yeah humaara dog trainer, iska concept bhi sahi hai. So like barter system is like ki ek haath mein treat lo. Wahi bol raha hai na tu like ek haath mein treat lo and then usko, nahi toh iska jo pasand hai woh cheez dekar.
Aadarsh
Toh jab isko lene ke liye woh dega toh doosre reward, woh reward function se bhi kar sakte the sir. Aur ek baar communication, zyaada communicate karne ke liye matlab ek cheez chahiye mujhe karke communicate kiya toh thoda zyaada aasaan hota tha sir.
But almost jo usko rok rahe the, woh badhiya tha sir.
Sunny
Okay, so listen sabke sab. Dekho dog tumhe fundamental bataata hoon dog ka jo tumhe har ek cheez mein help karegi. Dog ek time par ek hi jagah par focus kar sakta hai. Okay, ab yeh ganit yahan par kahaan kaam aayegi?
So jab dog ek time par ek hi jagah par focus kar raha hai aur Manya collar ke oopar haath laga rahi hai aur usko aise kar rahi hai, hataane ki koshish kar rahi hai taaki woh usse door hat jaaye. Toh dog kya karti hai, Betty kya karti hai? Uski taraf focus hoti hai, ekdum Manya ki taraf focus hoti hai. Hai na?
So aur yeh tug of war chal raha hai un dono ka. Woh yahan se hatti hai, phir wahan jaati hai, phir wahan aati hai, phir yahan jaati hai.
Yeh increase hote-hote snapping behavior mein convert ho jaata hai. Toh ab yahan par humein kya istemaal karna chahiye? Yahan par humein istemaal karna chahiye ki dog ek hi jagah par focus karta hai. Uska matlab kya? Dog jab khaa raha tha, usko khaane dena hota hai. Theek hai?
Uska collar dheere se calmly taaki uska focus nahi hate. Getting my point? Uska focus nahi hatna chahiye. Uska focus woh jis cheez mein laga hua hai, wahi karte rahe. Hum dheere calmly collar ko oopar kheenchenge. Kar sakte hain na apan dog ke saath?
Dog kisi cheez mein laga hua rehta hai toh apan dheere se oopar kheench sakte hain. Ek baar woh oopar aane ke baad hum halka sa usko oopar kheenchenge. Poori tareeqe se nahi. Usko like hum force pressure se nahi maarenge. Just woh tensed ho jaaye. Okay, ab woh tensed hone ke baad dog humaare control mein aa jaata hai.
Ab woh snap nahi kar sakta. Agar, agar humaara collar tense ho gaya phir woh snap kar paayega kya?
Woh nahi kar paayega. Jaise woh snap karne ki koshish karega, hum aur oopar kheencheinge. Getting my point? So hum usko dheere-dheere aise oopar kar, usko oopar lekar aate hain. Woh neeche laga rehta hai. Toh dog kya karega na, neeche pressure maarega. Woh bhool jaayega ki tum usko kheench rahe ho.
Usko nahi pata ki tum usko kheench rahe ho. Woh kya karega? Woh neeche pressure maarega, neeche pressure maarega aur yaky ya jo bhi uski object hogi na usko grab kar legi. Theek hai? Ab woh usko grab kar lega. Ab woh snap nahi kar sakta. Ab usne grab kiya, hum usko aur oopar kheenchenge aur usko baitha denge.
Now humaare paas leverage hota hai usko bolne ke liye, usko kuch bhi karaane ke liye. Ab tum usko oopar kheench ke bhi rakh sakte ho taaki woh spit out kar woh cheez. Okay, woh spit out, woh spit out karega, usko side mein lagaaoge, woh stay bologe aur phir cheez uthaaoge aur phir uske saamne lekar jaaoge, bologe no.
Okay, so is tareeqe se hum kyunki for obvious si baat hai, hamesha treats nahi ho sakti. Ya hamesha humaare paas kuch aisa object nahi ho sakta ki dog usko chhode. Toh humein dog behavior pata hona chahiye. Yaani sirf hum hain aur sirf dog hai. Ab kya? Na humaare paas racket hai, na humaare paas koi cheez hai.
Ab hum kis tareeqe se behave karenge? Toh dog ek time ke oopar ek hi cheez ke oopar focus reh sakta hai.
Toh agar aap uske saamne nahi jaaye aur baar-baar aise nahi karein toh uska focus hamesha uske oopar rahega ya chew ke oopar rahega ya object ke oopar, object ke oopar rahega aur tum phir uske collar ko manipulate karke uski gardan ko snout ko manipulate kar sakte ho safely.
Toh is tareeqe se tum safely dog ke saath handle kar sakte ho. Toh Betty ke saath aap aise karoge toh Betty growl zaroor karegi.
Growl kab karegi Betty? Jab aap usko upar kheench rahe honge aur wo neeche pressure maar rahi ho. Wo growl ho. Wo growl tumhare liye growl nahi hai. Wo taakat wala growl hai. Jaise hum taakat lagate hain na, mere ko chahiye. Hai na? Kind of, kind of thing. Wo hurt karne wala growl nahi, wo taakat wala growl hai.
Mujhe wo chahiye, mujhe wo chahiye. So that tumhare paas phir leverage aata hai. Lekin agar hum baar-baar is tareeqe se kar rahe hain ya phir hum apni body language use kar rahe hain aur usko hatane ki koshish kar rahe hain aur wo baithi hui hai toh wo kaam nahi karegi. Okay now aur treats bhi hamesha kaam nahi karegi.
Suppose wo jo object hai wo usko zyada rewarding lag raha hai treat se toh wo work nahi karega us cheez pe. Aur maximum cases mein tumko dikhega ki treats work nahi karti. Resource guarding ke time ya phir kisi cheez ko jab wo pakad lete hain toh phir work nahi karte.
Wahaan par kya work karta hai? Dog ko samajh ke rakho ki wo ek time par ek hi jagah par focus rakhta hai. Ek time par jab wo ek hi jagah par focus rakhta hai toh hamare paas opportunity hoti hai kuch aur kaam karne ki bina uske proximity mein aaye hue. Hai na? So hum end level tak apne aap ko prepare kar sakte hain.
And then phir dog ko bolenge, "Focus on me." Pehle nahi. Toh humne pehle hi bol diya. Hai na? Humne, hum prepared nahi the aur humne dog ko bol diya ki mere par focus karo. Toh dog ne humko aise dekha aur snap karne ki koshish kari toh hamara haath peeche hat gaya.
Okay, hamara haath peeche hat gaya kyunki hum prepared nahi the. So is tareeqe se hum psychologically win hote hain dogs ke upar. Usse pehle aap physically jeetne ki koshish kar rahe the dog se. Manya, hai na? Jab collar ko baar-baar aise-aise kar rahe the na, wo kya tha? Ek physical tareeqa tha dog se win karne ka.
Okay, dogs se hum physically win nahi karte.
Dog, dog se physically win kar sakte hain. Getting your point? Human ka physical part strong nahi hai toh us field mein kyun utarna? Human ka mind strong hai. Kya strong hai? Mind. Toh hamesha humein mind ke through jaana hai, not body ke through. Agar hum body ke through jaayenge, hum haarenge.
Kyunki dog ek doosre ko bite karte hain toh unko itna chot nahi lagta hai. Lekin hamari skin bahut soft hai. Hai na? Human ki skin bahut soft hai. Human par toh scratch lagta hai toh phir pareshani ho jaati hai. Aur phir dogs ke maa-baap bhi dogs ko nahi bolte aise ki bhai tu kyun kata? Hai na?
Hamare, hamare, hamare bahut saare issues ho sakte hain. So hum physically hum kyun utarna chahiye? Okay, jab bhi hum dog se behave kar rahe hain, jab bhi hum dog se interact kar rahe hain, physically utarna last hona chahiye, last.
For example, agar dog tumhare par attack karna start kar diya then you will become that physical thing ki ab main physical hounga. Usse pehle tab tak nahi. Lekin wahaan par bhi hum mental istemaal karte hain. Hum attack karne nahi jaate. Okay, hum hamesha kya kaam karte hain? Yeh harmony mein bane rahe.
Kyun hum yeh plan kar rahe harmony mein bane rahe? Kyunki humein andar se pata hai ki hum mazboot nahi hain. Obviously na Vandana toh bole ki are tere mein himmat hai, aa attack kar. Agar hum aise dogs kaise karte ek doosre ke upar? Aise hi karte hai na ki aa himmat hai toh attack, attack kar.
Lekin hum wo nahi kar sakte. Toh humein apni ability pata honi chahiye. Matlab it's not just Manya ability, it's a humans ki ability. Okay, dogs se humein physical tareeqe se fight nahi karna chahiye. Mental tareeqe se yes. Hai na? Mental tareeqe se patience lagta hai. Hai na?
Jaise tum usko samajhte ho, dekhte ho kya karna hai and then jab ek baar tum isko kar lete ho phir tum saare dogs tumko relatively easy lagne lag jaate hain.
relatively easy lagne lag jaate hain. But psychology perspective se jaaya karo dogs ke saath like interact karne ke liye, not from physical perspective. So mostly behaviorist trainer ek cheez zaroor yeh cheez karte hain ki wo physically karne ki koshish karte hain. Like touch zyada karte hain dog ko. Hai na?
Apne haath se, apne haath se touch karenge ya phir leash se usko snap out karenge ya phir "hey" ek karke ekdam uske saamne chale jaayenge. Apni poori body ko uske paas mein, uske upar, uske upar le aayenge. Aap bache hue ho just because dog reham khaa raha hai. Hai na?
Dog ko andar aap sirf itni aise-- toh be humble about that. Jo unka strong part hai na usmein nahi khelne ka. Hai na? Physical part se usmein nahi khelne ka.
Kahaan se khelna hai? Idhar se khelna hai. Kyun? Kyunki human ka yeh strong hai. Dogs ka taakat shareer strong hai. Humans ka yeh strong hai. Dogs ka yeh kamzor hai. Humans ka yeh physical physic kamzor hai. Okay, toh humein kahaan se khelna tha? Idhar se khelna hai. Theek hai?
Toh jab bhi koi bhi strategy banao dog ke saath physical it should be last not first. First kyun banate hain? Dog matlab dog behaviorist, dog trainer touch ko ekdam poora exert karne ko first kyun banate hain? Kyunki jaldi results ki umeed hoti hai. Kiski umeed hoti hai? Jaldi results ki.
So nature mein jaldibaazi nahi chalti. Aaj nahi toh kal pitoge. Hai na? Kind of thing hai na? Cases bigdenge.
Speaker 6
Sunny wo wala video we can take as a reference jismein wo German Shepherd aur Malinois ne mere pe attack kiya tha aur same situation chal rahi thi jahaan maine racket wali galti kari thi.
I think wo video bhi hum as a reference le sakte hain ki by the moment I tried to push more than and in a wrong way, uh, uska kitna bada impact jhela tha maine phir uske baad. Toh wo jaldibaazi- Video send kar dena. Nahi, maine wo video yahaan nahi share kiya. I will share it.
But haan matlab usmein, usmein daal denge ki bahut saara khoon milega dekhne ko.
Sunny
Haan obviously matlab daal de. Lekin ye sab yahaan par behaviorist hi ban rahe hain toh ye toh ek common si cheez hai ki blood toh dekhne ko milega.
Speaker 6
Wo, wo, wo share karoongi because usse mere ko kaafi learning mila tha ki maine, maine kahaan-kahaan mental level pe apni galtiyan kari thi.
So I am sure ki wo baaki log bach sakte hain us katne se.
Sunny
Okay, so that wo share kar dena. Jitne bhi log aap logon ke paas dog ke behavior ke videos hain na, please share kiya karo. Usko sabko ek saath learning milegi aur main dekhta hoon saare ke saare. Hum discuss zaroor call ke dauraan karte hain lekin main dekhta hoon saare videos.
So apne videos share karo yahaan par and toh Manya aapko samajh mein aaya kaise aap next time yeh cheez aap kar sakte hain, yeh cheez aap easily kar sakte ho.
So jab hum kisi dog ke upar aisa karte hain toh hum kisi bhi koi bhi like hamare paas koi bhi cases aate hain we can do that jo aapne ghar se start karte hain aur ghar wala sabse mushkil hota hai. Wo aasaan nahi hai. Okay, ghar wala logon ne ulta bataya hai. Hai na logon ko lagta hai ki ghar is easy. Ghar is not easy.
Ghar is sabse hard. Ghar, ghar, ghar boss level hai jo aakhiri par aata hai jab tum poora khel lete ho.
Hai na woh boss game hai toh ghar ka hamesha mushkil hoga kyunki wahan emotions jude hue hain. Lekin jab tum ghar wale dogs ke upar apne khud ke ghar ke dog ke upar practice karte ho na toh jab doosre dogs aate hain woh relatively bahut simple, simple rehte hain aur easy rehte hain.
Kyunki unse humein respond bhi jaldi milta hai because woh emotions attach nahi hai wahan par kisi bhi tareeke se. Tumhein respond bhi jaldi milta hai, tumhein bhi respond jaldi milega. But is chakkar mein physical nahi hona. Matlab like physically strategies create nahi karna dogs ke saath jaldi results paane ke liye.
Hamesha apna time, hamesha apna time lena. Shuruat mein zyada time lagega. Lekin agar aapne tumne shuruat mein hi galti kar di na as a behaviorist, yeh touch wale method mein chale gaye. Hai na over exert apni energy ko woh de diya, tumhari growth ruk jayegi. Tum patience develop nahi kar paoge.
Okay, so behaviorist ki journey mein patience is a big thing.
Okay, is a, is a big thing kyunki jab hum dogs ke aamne-saamne hote hain toh ek-ek second aisa lagta hai ki minutes ho gaye. Matlab it's like, it's like woh jab tum ek growling wale dog ke saamne chale gaye ya dog tum par attack kar raha hai toh tumko lagega ki bahut time beet gaya, lekin bahut time nahi beetta.
Woh thoda sa hi time beetta hai. Hai na aur tumhein aisa lagta hai ki bahut zyada time beet chuka hai. So wahan par patience aur phir tum apna patience lose kar dete ho. Toh patience lose nahi karna dogs ke saath, animals ke saath aur jahan bhi ho sake practice karna patience.
Bahut saari cheezein hain jo immediate result de deti hain, lekin woh long term ki nahi hai. Like touching, touching on the ribs, touching on the neck. Hai na yeh fast result deti hai. Phir tumhara mann kya karega?
Jab naye cases aayenge na tumhara mann karega do the same thing aur wahan par ho sakta hai us cheez ki zaroorat bhi na ho.
Lekin tumhara mann kya karega? Do the same thing, do the same thing. Yeh maine pehle kar chuka hai, yeh waapas kar yeh mujhe jaldi result, result deta hai and that woh down karna start karega. Hai na down karna start karega. Kyunki dog momentarily sab seekhega this part se. Woh waapas se back aa jayega.
Lekin phir, phir kya hoga? Toh again and again and again same thing, same thing. Magar isse achha apna time lo aur poora clearly communicate karo. For example, Manya ke case mein Betty ke case mein clearly communicate kya hota? Jo Manya ne kiya woh clearly communication nahi hai. Hai na usmein confusion included hai.
Woh clear communication nahi. Clear communication kya? Woh chabaati rehti, Manya dheere se usko upar karti, usko baitha deti kheenchkar. Yeh upar tense hi rehta, woh neeche chhodti, usko door le jaakar baithti, waapas se woh saaman uthati aur phir bolti no.
Yeh poora concept hai us cheez ka. Ab tum isko kitna bhi time mein laga ke kar sakte ho lekin karna yeh hota hai. Hai na toh yeh kya yeh long term effect daalta hai dog ke upar.
Phir is thode, thode time ke baad kya hota hai jab woh khaa rahi hoti hai aur tum uske paas jaate ho toh apne aap hi uth jaati hai aur apne aap hi door chali jaati hai same process. Yes, Tapti.
Speaker 7
Toh yahan par dog psychology point of view se dog, dog ke andar kya chal raha hai? Like when woh dog khaa raha hai aur uska collar utha ke aur use bitha diya. So there is a chance, haan there is a chance ki woh munh mile ya phir possibly woh na bhi le.
Sunny
Haan possible.
Speaker 7
Toh woh baith jayega. Now what exactly is going through in his mind or her mind?
Sunny
Haan, so dekho abhi uske kya ho raha hai. Dekho kya do cheezein ho sakti hai. Jaise hi humne usko upar pull kiya, very good question Tapti. Hai na jaise humne usko upar, upar pull kiya toh uske dimaag mein kya aa sakta hai is cheez ko grab kar loon.
Hai na pehli cheez toh ki mere se door ja raha hoon, yeh mujhse door ja rahi hai aur main is cheez ko grab kar loon. Toh pehli cheez kya kar sakta hai? Woh usko grab kar sakta hai. Hai na usko chabaana, usko chabaana start kar sakta hai. Agar uske pakdaai mein nahi aayi toh woh apne munh ko aise kheench lega.
Hai na usko tension feel hogi. Hai na poora munh aise kheench lega. Usko, usko tension feel hoga aisa aur poora tumhein tension feel hoga. Aur phir jab usko tum baithaoge na tab woh aise relax hoga.
Lekin us poore dauran us collar ki kheenchne ke dauran dog tense rahega, dog tense rahega aur woh uska focus rahega woh apne snout ko neeche lekar jaaye toh tumhein neeche ka pressure feel hoga.
Okay, isliye agar yeh tumhara collar tum ready nahi ho, tumne collar yahan kar liya toh tumhein dikkat hogi. Uska pressure increase hota jayega, increase hota jayega aur tum ho sakta hai usko control nahi kar sakoge. Toh isliye prepare hone ke liye humein collar ko yahan upar lekar aana padega.
Is jagah ke upar yahan par. Okay, toh yahan par jab, jab bhi dog ko kheenchna ho ya kisi bhi fight se hatana ho, main tumhare saath ek fight ka video bhi share karoonga and phir leash ka bhi share karoonga. Fight hum directly nahi hatate. Fight hum kaise hatate hain? Fight ke dauran hi collar ko theek kar de.
Jab woh ek doosre se lad rahe hote hain. Fight ke dauran hi collar ko ek theek kiya jaata hai aur uske baad hataya jaata hai. Agar uske pehle hataoge collar theek karne se pehle dog hai toh tum katoge aur fight bhi nahi chhootegi.
Yaani tum bhi beech mein aa jaoge, tum bhi pitoge, doosra dog bhi pitega aur jo tum chahte the woh nahi hoga.
Isliye take your time. Collar ko sahi jagah par hona zaroori hai. Usse bina kuch bhi nahi. Ab woh tum kitni bhi tez kar sakte ho, tumhare haath tumhare skills ke upar hai. Tum usko ek second mein kar sakte ho. Tumhare skills ke upar hai aur tum thoda time bhi le sakte ho, lekin karna yahi hota hai.
Okay, collar sahi position par ho jab hum dog ko kheench rahe hain, dog ko upar kar rahe hain. Okay, woh sahi position par nahi hoga toh work out nahi karega. Toh Tapti jab hum dog ko upar kheench rahe the, jab hum dog ko is tareeke se upar kheench rahe hain toh uske andar neeche ka motion aayega.
Uska dimaag aayega ki usko grab kar le. Haan, grab kar le aur agar usne already grab kiya hua hai toh usko zor se daba le. Us jagah ko. Zor se daba lega. Toh agar uske haath mein nahi hai toh woh aise-aise bhi kar sakta hai. Toh humein dhyaan rakhna hota hai ki hamara pair nahi aa jaaye ya hamara haath nahi aa jaaye.
Lekin hum usko aise-aise kar dene, karne dena. Jaise bachha nahi hota like karna hai nahi, mere ko chahiye, mere ko chahiye kind of thing. Toh na woh is tareeke se karte hain. Tab hum unko waapas se baithate hain. Unko phir shaant, jaise hi woh shaant hote hain tab chhodo. Usse pehle nahi.
Tab jaakar unko samajh mein aata hai. Toh phir ab yeh agar tum regular basis par karoge toh kya hoga? dog kuch khaa raha hoga toh hum uske paas jaoge aur bologe Betty no. Toh Betty kya karegi? Uthegi udhar door jaakar baithegi. Kyun? Kyunki hum usko itni baar same cheez sikha chuke hain.
Ek associative memory ban gayi hai uski. Ki jab bhi human aise aata hai, mere paas khada hota hai toh mujhe door jaana padta hai objects se. Koi reason nahi rakhte hain ki kyun, kaise, fanaana, dhikaana. Bas human aata hai, mujhse bolta hai aur mujhe door jaana padta hai.
Speaker 7
My question was how he is seeing that situation? like woh kaise usko interpret kar raha hai ki he is focusing on that object aur humne uska neck karke khada kar diya.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 7
So it's like we are just diverting him. So woh focus karke baith gaya and eventually humne usko chhudwa liya like collar uthakar ya phir haath se whatever jo bhi humne process use kiya. Toh yeh poori process mein what exactly from dog psychology point of view what exactly is happening here?
Sunny
Again so jaise dog ko tumne upar kheencha hai na. Toh dog ko ek cheez samajh mein aayi ki yeh cheez se main door ja raha hoon.
Speaker 7
Haan.
Sunny
Okay, main is cheez ke paas jaane ki koshish kar raha hoon, lekin ja nahi paa raha.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Sunny
Aur yeh tab ho paa raha hai jab yeh human mere paas khadi hui hai.
Speaker 7
Haan, okay.
Sunny
Okay na. Yeh tab ho paa raha hai jab yeh human mere paas khadi hui hai. Yaani isse pehle main ja paata tha, lekin abhi main ja nahi paa raha hoon. Iski human ke aate hi mujhe isse door jaana hai. Aur phir tumne isko door jaakar baitha diya. Ab phir mujhe isse door kyon baitha diya hai?
Phir yeh jaayegi wahan par aur yeh uthayegi. Toh phir woh dog dekhega yeh kya hai? Yeh toh object hai jo main chabata hoon. Toh yeh human kya bol rahi hai? human bol rahi hai no. no ka matlab kya hai? Yaani ki isse door rehna hai mujhe. Lekin agar woh us tensed mind mein hoga toh usko sunayi nahi degi.
Speaker 7
Nahi sunayi dega.
Sunny
Toh humne usko kab bataya no kab karna hai? Jab woh shaanti se door jaakar baith gaya. Tab uske dimaag mein kya aayega? This means no. Tumhari baat, woh tumhari baat kitni maanta hai, woh depend karta hai tum kitne influential ho. Sahi baat nahi kya? Humari zindagi mein bhi yeh baat sahi hai ki nahi?
same baat bahut se log bol sakte hain humko. Lekin koi influential log bolta hai toh hi apne dimaag mein ghusta hai na. Ki apan ko lagta hai na ki yeh karna chahiye apan ko. Ya teen-chaar log milkar ek baat bol dete hain toh us baat ki influence badh jaati hai. Aisa hota hai na.
Sirf ek banda baat bol raha hai toh zaroori nahi hai maani jaaye. Lekin agar ek hi banda high influence waali baat kar raha hai toh hum maan lenge waali baat. Woh dog ke saath bhi hota hai. Tumhara influence us dog ke upar kya hai? Aur influence badhaane ke liye hum kya batate hain? Rituals of dogs.
Woh tumhara influence increase karega dog ke upar. Okay, tumhari respect increase karta hai. Toh baaki sab jagah cheezein help hoti hain. Yes, Parul.
Speaker 7
Understood, ma'am. Thank you.
Speaker 4
Jaise abhi aapne kaha ki jab aap utha rahe ho toh dog ko yeh lagega ki is human ke presence mein aap utha rahe ho. Toh dog usko aise bhi toh le sakta hai ki yeh human aa raha hai toh yeh ja raha hai.
Toh next time human aayega usse pehle main lekar toy ko bhi lekar bhaag jaata hoon.
Sunny
Haan, woh agar apan beech mein chhod denge toh. Agar apan, agar apan beech mein jaise, jaise bahut se log yeh karte hain na hataya aur chhod diya. Hataya aur chhod diya. Poora follow through nahi kiya.
Hota yeh hai na aise clients ke saath tum dekhoge, tumne khud ke saath bhi hoga ki tumne bas hataya aur wahan se cheezein le li toh woh dog us tareeqe se nahi seekhta. Usko bas phir usko snatching samajh mein aati hai.
Toh dog snatching kaise seekhta hai khaaskar waise humans ke liye jab humans kuch kha rahe hote hain toh kehta hai, 'Are yeh kya kha raha hai?' aur phir dog ke paas bhaag ke jaate hain aur uske munh se cheez chheen lete hain.
Speaker 7
Haan.
Sunny
So dog yahan se snatching seekhta hai, snapping seekhta hai is poore usse. Aur woh yeh nahi seekhta ki yeh nahi khaani hai usko. Hai na? Lekin human aisa kyon kar raha hai? Do cheezon ke.
human ke paas patience nahi hai. Teen cheezon ke. human ke paas patience nahi hai. Doosri cheez human ke paas information nahi hai. Teesri cheez, teesri cheez unko yeh nahi pata ki dog samajh sakta hai. Sabse badi baat. humans ko yeh nahi pata ki dog yeh samajh sakta hai ki usko yeh cheez nahi leni hai. Hai na?
Logon ko kya lagta hai ki dog ko pata hai usko yeh nahi leni hai phir bhi woh leta hai. Aisa nahi hota dog ke saath. okay dog ke saath aisa nahi hota.
Speaker 4
Jaise, jaise agar bone hogi jo uske liye hi hai bas humein usko time cut karne ke liye 10 minute baad aap chhod do. Toh tab toh phir hum usko exactly kaise communicate karenge ki nahi bhi kha sakte ho, but kha bhi sakte ho.
Sunny
Hum, hum usko tabhi dete hain jab woh kha sakta hai otherwise woh scene mein rehti nahi hai, saamne rehti nahi hai. Hum usko tabhi dete hain jab usko kha sakta hai. Toh uska time banaana hota hai.
Khaaskar dogs agar resource guarding start kar rahe hain ya phir resource guarding ko tumhein control karna hai toh humein usko, iska khaane ka, chabaane ka in sabke timing fix karne hote hain. Toh hum usko tabhi dete hain 10 minute ke liye, 15 minute ke liye, 20 minute ke liye ki jab woh kha sake us cheez ko.
and then phir jab hum uske paas jaayein toh hum usko chhod sakein. Toh humein bachpan se hi aadat daalni hoti hai in puppies ko. Bachpan se agar tum, hum aadat daalte na so aise behaviorist matlab humein yeh, humein yeh awareness phailaana bahut zyaada zaroorat hai ki puppyhood mein hi ek behaviorist onboard ho jaaye.
Okay, toh this is not a training ka concept. training ka concept kya hota hai? dog ko train kiya jaata hai. Lekin day to day life mein behave kaun kar raha hota hai dog ke saath? human. Hai na uske human. Galtiyan kaun kar rahe hote hain? Uske humans. Haan, humans. Aur phir us galti ke wajah se kya hota hai?
dog kya develop karta hai? behavioral issue. So ek well trained dog behavioral issue develop kar leta hai. getting my point? Bahut saare well, iski training bhi karayi thi, lekin ab toh ismein issues aa gaye. Toh training karaane ke baad issues kyon aaye? Yeh ek toh bahut bada sawaal hai.
training karaane ke baad issue kyon aaye? Toh training kya karayi thi dog ki? Sit, stay, come, walk. Bas. Yeh training thi. Aapki training nahi, humari koi training nahi. So that is the big gap, jo behaviorists ko fulfill karna hai. Yeh big gap hai. Hai na?
The first is awareness logon ko ki training dog ko toh theek hai lekin aapki zyaada zaroori hai. Okay, aapki zyaada zaroori hai training yahan par. Dog ko aap agar aap train nahi bhi karoge aur aap khud ko train karoge toh everyday jis tareeqe se aap behave karte ho dog train ho jaayega.
Getting a point? Hai na? Tum dog ko agar train nahi bhi karoge aur tum khud ko train karo, tum khud ko seekhoge dog ke saath kaise bartaav karna hai toh over a period time kya hoga? Dog khud-ba-khud tumhare according adapt ho jaayega. Lekin agar tumhein communicate karna nahi aa raha toh dog adapt kaise hoga?
Woh understand kaise karega aisa cheezein? Hai na. Toh yeh ek big awareness ka bhi gap hai jo logon ko nahi pata aur yeh gap badhta hi ja raha hai. Mujhe laga tha kam ho raha hai. Kyunki hum jis jitni, jitni speed se hum kam karne ki koshish kar rahe hain utni zyaada speed se puppies aa rahe hain.
Matlab log puppies ko adopt kar rahe hain apne gharon mein ya buy kar rahe hain. Jo bhi hai dog ko apni zindagi mein lekar aa rahe hain toh woh ek fast rate par lekar aa rahe hain aur hum utni fast rate se awareness nahi phaila paa rahe.
Kam log hain awareness phailane wale. So we need more people. Hai na? Jo is awareness ko phaila sake. Isliye aap logon se bolta hoon Instagram start karo. Okay na. This is a big thing which we as a air behaviors have to do.
Logon mein awareness phailane ki ki dog ko train karne se pehle aapko understanding ki zaroorat hai. Yeh ek aur concept hai na ki dog ko train karne se pehle aapko understand karne ki zaroorat hai ki dog as a species hai kya? Hai na it's a different species, a different communication channel hai.
Aur abhi bahut se logon ko yeh baatein mere khayal se cringe bhi lag sakti hain. Hai na? Kind of thing dog ko samjho aur dog ko phalana-dhikana. Toh bhai log bolenge bhai pehle aisa nahi hota tha, yeh nahi hota tha. Agreed. Pehle aisa nahi hota tha toh kya pehle kya dog tumhare companions hote the kya?
Kabhi pehle tumne suna India mein companions ho rahe hain dogs, kabhi kuch saalon se pehle? 10 saal maan lo, 20 saal, 15 saal maan lo. Usse pehle kabhi tum sunte the ki bhai companions ho rahe hain dogs? Kitne kam the ki dog ko hum companion ki tarah dekh rahe hain.
Dog generally gharon ke bahar rehte the, chhaton ke upar rehte the, streets par rehte the, sofe par nahi baithte the India culture mein. Hai na. Bahar ka nahi pata lekin India mein sofe par nahi baithte the, ek palang mein nahi sote the aur as a emotional support use nahi hote the.
Itne intimate circle ka part nahi bante the. Toh yeh sab nahi-nahi aaj haan ho gayi na. Toh phir ab kya karenge? Hai na. Toh wo behavioral issues aayenge na. Humse impact ho rahe hain dogs. Humse impact ho rahe hain. Behavioral issues ka root cause hai human ka influence, human ka influence.
Dog naturally ko unmein se behavioral issues nahi hote. Behavioral issues ka matlab kya hai? Mentally unstable. That is the beha-- growling is not a behavioral issue, barking is not a behavioral issue, biting is not a behavioral issue. Mental instability is a behavioral issue. Okay, anxiety is a behavioral issue.
This frustration is a behavioral issue. Ab insecurity jo aa raha hai wo behavioral issue hai. See, yeh mental issues hain hum sabke. Matlab hum sab mein bhi hote hain. Lekin these are andar mental issues. Hai na. Not it's like ki toh dog ka barking ko behavioral issues ki tarah samjha jaata hai.
Resource guarding ko behavioral issues ki tarah samjha jaata hai. Wo behavioral issues nahi hai, wo unka nature hai. Nature ko tum behavioral issues kaise bol sakte ho? Just because unke nature tumhare according nahi hai toh iska matlab wo behavioral issues hai.
Aise society toh hum ek doosre ke saath bhi kar rahe hain. Matlab tumhare hisab se agar koi aur kaam nahi karta toh hum usko pagal bolte hain kind of thing. Matlab society toh is tareeqe se kaam kar rahi. Toh dogs ke saath bhi aisa. Toh dog ke wo behavioral issues nahi.
Lekin dog ko samajhna ek hamara main part hona chahiye logon ko batana. You know, this awareness should be there and people should understand ki dog ko samajhna chahiye. Kyon? Agar aap dog se companionship chahte ho toh. Agar aap dog se companionship nahi chahte ho then it is completely ok.
Magar agar aap dog se companionship chahte ho you should, you must understand the dog. Yes Aadarsh.
Aadarsh
Sir, abhi isi par ek sawal hai. Dog ke saath connection kaise karna hai yeh sab sir. Kyunki mere paas ek German Shepherd aaya hai six month old aur usko vet suggest kiya tha ki bahar mat lekar jao karke.
Chhah mahine tak wo ghar ke andar hi tha sir, sirf compound ke andar. Abhi usko jab bhi bahar nikaalne ki koshish karti thi bahut leash pulling sir aur sniffing.
Sunny
Chillaata hai, bahut chillaata bhi hai kya?
Aadarsh
Haan aur udhar hi compound ke andar roam, roaming karta hai. Idhar se udhar, udhar se idhar poora- Wo, wo bahut zyada aggression ki taraf chala jaayega.
Sunny
Bahut zyada. So abhi dekh wo compound mein aise-aise bhaag raha hai, idhar-udhar bhaag raha hai aur yelp karta hai. Is tareeqe se, is tareeqe se karna start kiya usne? Like is tareeqe se karna start kiya jagah-jagah cheezon par jaakar ya kabhi tumhe dekhta hai excited ho jaata hai.
Toh yelping karna start kiya, whining karna start kiya usne?
Aadarsh
Yelping, whining abhi shuru nahi hai sir.
Sunny
Okay, okay. Koi ghoonsa aawaaz, koi ghoonsa aawaaz nahi nikalta barking ki is tareeqe se? Ek teekhi, teekhi matlab is like, teekhi ko kya bolte hain English mein yaar? Like a- Sharp. Sharp, sharp. Yeah, sharp, sharp. Koi, koi sharp voice nikaalta hai apne mein se?
Aadarsh
Abhi tak utna-utna.
Speaker 1
Sharp ya screeching voice.
Sunny
Haan yeah.
Aadarsh
Nahi sir. Jab bhi usko gate ke idhar boundary se nikaalne jaata hoon na sir, leash correction jab bhi deta hoon toh he starts licking my legs. Yeh karta hai.
Sunny
Oh that's, yeah, yeah right. Toh usko pehle dekho. Jaise suppose kar lo koi bhi dog hai, ek puppy hai, ek German Shepherd hai, hai na. Toh sabse pehle dekho German Shepherd kis tareeqe ka dog hai abhi unke paas. German Shepherds multiple tareeqe ke hote hain.
Low energy bhi hote hain, medium energy bhi hote hain, high energy bhi hote hain, hyper energy bhi hote hain aur koi jog wale bhi hote hain.
Toh jis tareeqe se tu yeh bata raha hai na, yeh medium se high energy ka ho sakta hai. Chhah mahine mein agar wo compound ke andar hai, wo yelping nahi kar raha, whining nahi kar raha aur tez-tez barking nahi kar raha, so medium level ka energy ka dog something.
So medium energy ke dog ko agar tum is tareeqe se rakhoge within 15 se 16 months mein unke andar aggression aata hai. Shuruwaat mein nahi aata. 15 se 16 months mein unke andar aggression. Toh log bolenge are toh ekdam kaise aggressive ho gaya? Toh 15 se 16.
Agar ek high energy German Shepherd hai, 8 se 9 month mein unke andar aggression, jo jis condition mein yeh dog reh raha hai. Okay, unmein 8 se 9 month mein aggression aa jaata hai. Hai na 9 se 10 month mein.
So is wale dog mein agar work nahi kiya toh 14 se 15 mahine mein aggression ke signs dikhne lag jaayenge major wale. Okay, so yeh base bana ke rakhte hain ki yaar is par work karna hai taaki seriousness aaye.
Lekin ab work kya karna hai? Toh first cheez jab dog ko compound mein rakha hua hota hai na bahut time se aur chhah mahine ho gaye toh dog ka exposure wala phase nikalne wala hota hai, khatam hone wala hota hai. Hai na dog teen se chaar mahine mein na full exposure, do mahine mein.
Bahut se log, bahut se dog jaldi mein, wo exposure ke phase mein aate hain, explore karne ke phase mein aate hain aur unko agar exploration nahi milta na they start becoming very frustrated. Hai na frustrated hone lag jaate hain. So isko bhi walk se sikhaane se pehle isko exploration dena padega.
Aadarsh
Haan.
Sunny
Okay, long leash par isko lekar jaana padega. Tu kisi forest mein lekar jaa sakta hai, kahin par bhagaane lekar jaa sakta hai, jahan par yeh explore kar sake. Exploration ke baad, bhagaane ke baad start the leash usi session mein.
Aadarsh
okay haan yes.
Sunny
first nahi, pehla nahi. okay, toh tu kya kar sakta hai hafte mein aisa bana sakta hai ki aaj is hafte main isko swimming par lekar jaaunga. is hafte main kahin isko forest... saamne wale. na na main isko forest mein lekar jaaunga ya isko main bahar ghumaane lekar jaaunga ya isko main cycle par karaunga.
then uske baad leash walking aayegi, pehle nahi. kyon? aisa kyon? kyunki aapne chhe mahine tak isko andar band karke rakha tha. jis vet ne yeh suggest diya tha, suggestion diya tha, us vet ko behavior ka bilkul bhi idea nahi. chhe mahine tak dog ko andar nahi rakh sakte. dog ko andar nahi rakh.
unke natural habitat mein one month ke baad woh bahar nikalna chaalu ho jaata hai, ek month ke baad.
Aadarsh
yes sir.
Sunny
aur dog ke liye paanch mahine uski zindagi ka compound ke peeche nikal jaana is a big deal.
big deal. unke liye big deal hai. hamare liye aise nahi hai.
Manya
matlab kaafi saare pet parents yahi karte hain because vet suggest kar de ki abhi tak uska vaccination nahi hua, yeh nahi hua, woh nahi hua toh aap usko ghar ke bahar hi mat lekar jaao. ghar ke andar rakho, safe rakho usko.
Sunny
woh bilkul, bilkul galat hai.
Manya
tum log bhi kaise convince kar sakte hain ki matlab usko exposure chahiye waise puppy ko?
Sunny
toh yaar dekho ab yeh cheez dekho vet ki bhi agar hum is tareeqe se vaccination ki baat lekar jaayein ki yaar isko kuch iska bimaar nahi, bimaar nahi ho jaaye toh koi bimaari lag jaaye kyunki abhi vaccination iske poore nahi hain. toh unko hum challenge toh kar nahi sakte is tareeqe se.
lekin agar hum behavior ke perspective se dekhein toh yeh behavior se bahut zyada kharaab hai. matlab itna zyada kharaab hai ki poori life par asar padta hai iska.
so it is a big deal. toh yaani ki hume hum seedha vet ki baat ko agree karke nahi chhod sakte. okay, kyunki sirf health ki baat nahi hai na. yeh toh lifelong, lifelong problem ki baat hai. shuruaat ke chhe mahine is a big deal for a dog. toh hum phir kya kar sakte hain? hum same tareeqe ke puppies dhoondh sakte hain.
hai na? ya phir hum usko, lekin hum usko bahar lekar jaayein ya same tareeqe ke puppies dhoondh sakte hain, vaccinated dogs dhoondh sakte hain, unke saath lekar jaayein. lekin kya, lekin hume figure out karna padega. hum khud, hum unko aise hi neeche lekar jaa sakte hain, society mein neeche lekar jaa sakte hain.
usko neeche munh nahi rakhne dein. usko achhi leash ka ho dein. lekin tumhe sirf ek, ek bhi baat batata hoon main, sirf vet ka issue nahi hota. agar vet ne bol diya toh sirf woh issue nahi hota. jo clients hain unke andar bhi hidden, unko nahi pata hota.
hidden laziness aa jaata hai, jo hidden hoti hai. okay, jo procrastinate karaati hai. okay na jo bolte hain it's okay kind of thing. woh unko dikhti nahi hai. woh unko pata nahi chalta. woh internal deep hota hai yeh cheez. kyunki woh hamesha doctor ki baat nahi maanegi. ya woh hamesha is tareeqe ki baat nahi maanegi.
woh certain condition mein maanegi. kyon? hai na aisa kyon? hai na toh woh har jagah nahi maante lekin woh certain condition mein maanti hai. toh wahan par sirf dog reason nahi hota. wahan par alag cheezein reason bhi hota hai. toh aise behaviors ko hume figure out karna hota hai. woh hume directly bolna hota hai.
lekin hume woh figure out karna hota hai ki there is a hidden. toh isliye hume human ki psychology bhi pata honi chahiye ki wahan par hidden cheezein hoti hain jo human ko khud ko nahi pata hoti. kaakir kuch bolna. yaad hai.
Aadarsh
sir actually aap yeh jo jo bole hain na sir actually sahi hai kyunki woh jab bhi main bahar lekar jaana chahta hoon toh uska lakshya idhar-udhar hi chale jaata hai exploration ke idhar hi. toh jab bhi main kuch bhi command doon, kuch bhi nahi toh sunta bhi nahi hai. sirf grounded rehta hai eye contact jo rehta hai.
iske liye- koi command nahi, koi command nahi dena. okay sir.
Sunny
dekho suno Adarsh suno. main sabko ek cheez batata hoon. dog se interact tabhi jab tum uski zarooraton ko poori kar chuke ho.
Aadarsh
okay.
Sunny
uske pehle uske, uske, usse koi interaction se expectation nahi rakhna. uski zarooratein poori. ab jaise abhi Adarsh ek case lekar aaya German Shepherd ka puppy hai bhai. uski zarooratein kya hai? uski zaroorat exploration hai. exploration se pehle Adarsh kya kar raha hai?
usko command dene ki koshish kar raha hai, usko correct karne ki koshish kar raha hai.
agar woh bhola bachha hua toh woh sun bhi lega. lekin still it is wrong. getting my point? woh tumhara rishta create nahi karega. toh agar rishta create karna hai, saamne wale ki zarooratein samajhna, uski zarooratein poori karna.
jab uski zarooratein poori ho jaayein, tumhe woh shaant dikhe then start communication, start interacting. yeh tum insaano ke saath bhi karo. kya?
Aadarsh
sure sir, thank you.
Sunny
so uska exploration start kar. dekho changes dikhenge bahut zyada. then exploration ke baad training hamesha. needs exploration, exploration uski need hai. for example, kisi dog ki need running ho sakti hai. zaroori nahi ki tum usko exploration dena hai. tumhe need figure out karni hai.
jo Adarsh case lekar aaya us, us puppy ki need kya hai? exploration. toh hum usko kya denge? exploration denge. main kisi anxious dog ke paas jaaunga. uski need exploration nahi hai uski.
agar main usko exploration doonga, woh aur anxious ho jaayega. uski need kya hai? uski need running hai. toh main usko kya doonga? main usko running doonga. then uske baad interact karo. so dog ki need samajhna pehle zaroori hai aur most cases mein jitne bhi tum cases loge 90 se 95, 98% exercise ki need hogi. okay?
kyunki human wahan fail hota hai. pehli need kis cheez ki tumhe lack milegi? exerci-exercise ki. aur doosri need kaun si lack lagegi? discipline ki. these two needs jo Cesar Millan ne bataya exercise, discipline and affection. usne bhi yeh dekhkar hi bataya na. humse zyada experience hai na usko.
matlab hum jis tareeqe se experience le rahe hain kaam kar kar ke aur hum samajh rahe hain ki logon mein kya log kya mistake kar rahe hain. usne kitne time se kaam kiya. toh usne kya figure out kar liya? exercise tha pehli mistake aur hamare experience se bhi yahi sab, yahi samajh mein aaya.
aur tumhare experience se bhi tum dekh lo log kahan mistake kar rahe hain. exercise pehli mistake hai na. jis dog ke saath bhi pehli mistake hai toh exercise pehli mistake hai. doosri mistakes kahan ho rahi hai? discipline mein. rules, boundaries and limitations in sab mein. okay?
so pehle hum uski need poori karenge Adarsh exploration and then phir leash guidance and fanaana dhikaana uske baad jaise full maza aayega puppies ke saath kaam mein.
Payu
yes sir, thank you.
Sunny
okay. yeah, any more questions guys?
Speaker 9
so yeah, mujhe question hai. toh aapne jaise bataya main every time Betty ko yaky doon, uske baad jab end karna hota hai tab uske saath waise hi usko leave karao yaky.
Sunny
haan, waise hi usko leave kar do. agar woh aise leave nahi kar rahi hai. okay, agar ya-yaky diya aur woh- woh aise, woh generally kya karti hai ki usko 10 minute deti hoon, woh phir bore ho jaati hai.
Speaker 9
Phir chhod ke woh so jaati hai. Uske baad main uthaun toh koi usko problem nahi hai.
Sunny
Haan, theek hai, chalega. Matlab jab, jab mauka mile tab tu is tareeke se kar sakti hai. Nahi different, different cheezein try kiya karo. Ek, ek student ki tarah raha karo dog ke saath.
Agar dog behavior aise professional dekh rahe ho tum hai na aur tum isme professionally ghusna chahte ho aur understand karna chahte ho toh dogs ke saath student ki tarah raha karo. Student ki tarah raha karo. Toh for example, jaise Aadarsh ne bola ki tum doosri treat lekar aa sakte ho, redirect kar sakte ho usko.
Toh tum kya kar sakte ho ki let's try something. Main roti lekar aati hoon. Yeh chhodti hai kya usko? Roti dene ki zaroorat nahi hai but let's see chhodti hai kya usko? So learn new things jab bhi kuch issue aata hai dog ke saath. Yeh sab kar sakte hain. Toh main bhi seekh raha hoon.
Main bhi, main bhi lagataar aaj bhi seekh raha hoon. Toh main ek student ki tarah rehta hoon dogs ke saath.
Yeh kya kar rahe hain? Yeh kaise kar rahe hain? Agar main is tareeke se behave kiya toh. Toh jaise do dogs hain, woh fight karte hain hamare doosre dog. Toh main usko itne time se dekh raha hoon, dekh raha hoon. Ab main sochta hoon main agar inke beech mein jaakar inko hataun toh kis tareeke se hataunga?
Agar main is tareeke se karun toh main unke, unke collar nahi hai, kuch bhi nahi hai. Woh free rehte hain. Agar main aise karun toh kaise kaam karega? Agar main neeche jhuk ke inke paas jaunga toh yeh kaise behave karenge? So this is what I do every day here. Hai na?
Toh main continuously dogs ke aaj bhi aur zindagi bhar tak yeh cheez continue rahegi. Kyunki mujhe jab yeh puppies hue tab mujhe realize hua ki right now we know nothing kind of thing. Hai na? There is a huge mountain of behavior dogs ka jo humein learn karna hai. Yes, Payu.
Payu
Yes sir. So matlab yeh bone se mujhe yaad aaya.
Toh initially na main, mujhe pata tha ki resource guarding issue ho sakta hai Brownie mein zyada tha. Kyunki usko kuch boundaries hi nahi thi jab woh uh, pehle ghar pe thi. Toh maine na uske saath leash laga ke usko khana dena start kiya tha.
Jo khane se main break usko matlab jaanboojhkar main practice karwata tha ki I ask you to eat aur tabhi phir dheere se leash oopar karke bowl se jab oopar, kyunki bowl ke andar bhi poora chicken hai that is also highly rewarding. Oopar kiya phir woh baith gayi.
Baith gayi maine bowl haath se liya, dekha uske paas waapas rakha. Aise maine do teen baar practice kiya. Then after that jab main buffalo bone deta hoon woh toh sabse zyada rewarding hai inke liye. Usmein toh Max bhi initially deta nahi tha.
Sunny
Okay.
Payu
Same thing main plan karke de raha hoon tabhi leash already gale mein hai. Toh jab main unse le bhi raha hoon jaise aapne kaha mujhe woh ekdam click hua ki woh ek hi jagah pe concentrate kar rahe hain.
Paas mein aa rahe toh wahi lene wala hai. Iske liye woh defensive ho jaata hai. Toh leash agar pehle se gale mein, it's a planned choreographed thing toh phir woh zyada hi mujhe ho raha tha ki phir bone ke time pe bhi main waise hi leash kar raha tha.
Bone maine liya, lekin leke phir maine chhupa nahi diya ki woh usko aisa lage ki jab bhi yeh paas aayega, yeh rewarding cheez toh gayab hi ho ja rahi hai. Jab usne achhe behave kiya, waapas bhi diya toh yeh practice hua ki give and take. Usko trust hai na ki yeh cheez waapas mil jaati hai.
Abhi main buffalo dono ko bhi deta hoon toh literally woh munh se bhi lene dete hain. Toh abhi woh Brownie ka toh bahut, woh ekdam danger wala tha pehle. Toh matlab yeh technique share karna tha aur regarding the puppies na I have seen a Cane Corso puppy in my society.
Toh uh, vets kya bolte hain ki unko saare vaccination ke uh, hone ke baad hi baahar nikaalna. Tab tak yeh teen, saade teen mahina nikal jaata hai jo aisa aapne bola ki.
Lekin is pe solution mujhe thoda sa ek dikha ki puppies zyada mar rahe hain iske wajah se parvo aur distemper ki wajah se jo ki maximum dogs ko bhi ho sakta hai, right? Toh uska re... humein kya karna hai ki first vaccination hone do, woh thoda jaldi ho raha hai. Tab tak hum agar nahi nikaale toh it's better.
Lekin jaise hi woh vaccin-vaccination hota hai, do din uske bas ho gaye, fever waghera utar gaya. Uske baad hum log nikaal sakte hain, lekin nikaalna bhi kahaan pe abhi jaise society clean area hai.
Clean areas pe jahaan pe baahar ke dogs ka ya phir saare dog udhar aake feces nahi kar rahe, potty nahi kar rahe, susu nahi kar rahe. Community dogs ka matlab gherao nahi hai us jagah pe. Udhar usse bach ke clean areas mein hum log unko exposure de sakte hain.
Jaise lift se neeche le, lekar jaana society ke andar jahaan pe clean area hai. Jahaan pe abhi rabies ka toh ratio waise bhi apne India mein kam ho raha hai.
Toh uh, because of that rabies ke chances kam hai hone ke aur oopar se hum log yeh bhi precaution le rahe we are not uh, letting them lick anything whatever they want.
Maine dekha hai pet parents ko kutta sab kuch lick karte ja raha hai, sabke joote lick kar raha hai, zameen lick kar raha hai, woh aise hi baithe hue hain. Us case mein phir rabies ka bhi woh jo khatra hai woh rehta hai. Seven in one toh uska ho gaya.
Toh bas woh jo thode extra din apne ko bach rahe hain na fifteen, twenty days before the leave hum log uska exposure tab se start kar sakte hain.
Sunny
So basically I think like exposure toh tum like jaise hum nature mein dekhte hain, hai na. Yahaan par nature mein dekhte hain aur hum puppies lekar aate hain. Lekin Indies ke jo puppies hote hain woh kaafi like unko nahi hoti itni problems.
Hai na, lekin agar hum parvo bhi dekhein aur yeh sab bhi dekhein toh generally jo dogs baahar rehte hain aur unse interact hota hai, agar hamara puppy bhi interact ho raha hai toh uske andar yeh sab viruses aa rahe hain aur environment mein bhi yeh viruses hote hain.
So in virus ka it's like ek issue toh hai hi sahi yeh virus ka issue hai, lekin jo mental issue hai woh toh humein hataana hi padega hi sahi. Lekin woh kaise hata sakte hain? Sirf, sirf vaccination ka humein woh toh chahiye hoga. Kya bolte hain? Ek group chahiye hoga har ek city mein puppies ka.
Like ek jaise group hota hai socializing ka ek group hota hai. Matlab agar tum usko really is problem ko solve karna chahte ho toh problem kya hai? Socializing ki problem hai. Not it's like ki sirf baahar le jaane ki hi problem hai. Woh poora socializing ka uska phase hota hai.
Ek doosre se socialize karna, ek doosre dog se socialize karna aur doosre humans se socialize karna. Kitni baar toh main sununga ki coronavirus ke time par aapne puppy liya tha aur ab isko baahar nahi nikaale and then bahut zyada issues ho gaye.
So woh issues teen chaar mahine, paanch chhe mahine mein agar aap baahar nahi nikaaloge na toh bhi ho jaayenge.
Payu
Humans ka same tha.
Sunny
Haan, woh issues, haan, woh issues, woh issues ho jaayenge wahaan par bhi. So abhi cities mein yeh gap hai. Jitni bhi cheezon ke baare mein woh yahaan par baat kar rahe hain na, woh gap hai. Puppies ke group nahi hai. Toh yeh kya hai? Ek opportunity. Getting a window tumhe kya bol raha hoon?
Hai na, puppies ke group nahi hai. So agar koi insaan mil gaya aisa jo yeh puppy ke groups ko manage karta hai ya is puppies ke group ko conduct karta hai. Hai na. Aur uska yahi hai ki agar aapka vaccination nahi hai lekin phir bhi aapko socializing chahiye toh yahaan par saare vaccinated puppies aate hain.
Aap apne puppy ko lekar aao. Kitne like it's a good thing na, it's a good thing. Toh yeh cheez, yeh problem solve karegi aur is problem ko solve karne ke paise milte hain. Matlab obviously this is business. Yeh business hoga kind of, kind of thing.
Lekin hum jab bhi aise baat karte hain ki problem hai aur isko is tareeke se solve kar sakte hain. Ab bacha part ki implement kaun karega? Hai na, implement kaun karega aur implement kaise hoga? For example implementation kaise ho sakta hai?
Hum different apne cities ke vets ke paas ja sakte hain aur unko bol sakte hain ki ye puppies ka group hai jahan par hum this thing dete hain, this thing dete hain, this thing dete hain kind of thing aur is tareeke se hum puppies ko group mein lekar aa sakte hain. Then we can start all this thing.
Unka socializing karna start kar sakte hain. Toh kar sakte hain but ye solution hai. Hai na, ye solution hai ki puppies ke group hone chahiye jo baahar nahi nikalne chahiye. Wo puppies se batate hue ek saath khel sakein, ek saath socialize ho sakein. Bachpan mein kitne saare issues solve ho sakte hain.
Agar tum abhi apne apne dogs ko bhi dekho toh tumhe lagta hai na bachpan mein issue solve bahut jaldi ho jaata.
Hai na. Abhi jo tum itna seekh rahe ho, itni information aa rahi hai tumhare paas. Jinke paas information nahi hai, seekh nahi rahe hain unko kitna takleef aati hogi unke dog ke saath. Unko kitna takleef aati hogi. Kaise bartaav karna hai, kaise behave karna hai dog ke saath.
Agar aur bachpan mein kitna easy hota ye karna puppies ke saath kitna easy hota hai. Lekin wo amplify kitni jaldi hote hain. Wo bhi toh hai na. Wo jitna easy hota hai wo ek click mein hard ho jaata hai. Jaise puppy apne teenage usmein aata hai.
Toh that's wo bach, wo har ek city mein aise groups hone chahiye jo help karein. Hai na, ye business idea hai kind of thing socializing ke groups banana. Hai na, Pune mein ho sakte hain. Jitne bhi jahan par bhi tum log ho wahan par aise groups ho sakte hain jahan par puppies ke group bane ho puppies.
It's a big issue puppy ka socializing is a big issue. Wo first thing first issue hai. Logon ko pata nahi hai kitna bada issue hai.
okay agar puppy ko chheh mahine tak andar rakhna, ghar ke andar rakhna bahut bada issue hai uske mental uske liye. Bahut bada issue hai. Toh wo logon ko pata nahi hai. Toh unko pata hona and then uske baad phir hum koi solution provide kar... Ye is tareeke se hum usko solve kar sakte hain which we will do.
We will do something on this thing. Yes baba. Yes bhai ho gaya na.
Payu
Haan also last time when we guide batane wale...
Sunny
Teri aawaaz gayi. Teri aawaaz gayi.
Payu
Hello.
Sunny
Haan.
Payu
Aa rahi abhi?
Sunny
Haan abhi aa gaya.
Payu
Haan last time when we spoke na aap mujhe wo guide ke baare mein batane the, wale the ki aap kuch create karoge jismein puppy ka right from how to choose a puppy se lekar when you get a puppy at home uske saath kya boundaries wo sab alag. Aapne bola tha na ki I will later on do something.
Sunny
Bola tha par kuch bhi nahi banaya.
Payu
Haan, theek hai chalega no problem.
Sunny
Disappointment, disappointment mein aisa kar raha tha yaar. Maine kuch bhi nahi banaya toh bhool gaya is cheez ko. But ya iski zaroorat hai.
Payu
Haan, wahi jad hai na. Kyunki laakar sab log ekdum khushi ke mahaul mein rehte hain, mele wale mahaul mein aur phir chheh mahine baad wo unka behavior start hota hai. Phir dedh saal ke baad unke paas power nahi bachti usko kheenchne ke liye aur baad mein phir bolte hain abandon karna hai, adoption dena hai.
Nahi jamega toh puppy time par hi hathoda maar dena chahiye that's what I was saying.
Sunny
Yes, yes puppy ke time par hi hathoda maar dena chahiye aur main bhi iske liye proactive hoon bahut zyada ki puppies ke time par hi hum sab matlab jaise ismein tumko bola na behaviorist puppy ke time par hi onboard ho jaana chahiye.
Payu
Right.
Sunny
Onboard. Lekin wo log behaviorist ke paas pata hai kab jaate hain jab paani sar ke upar se nikal chuka hota hai.
Tab cheezein bahut mushkil ho jaati hai. Tab paisa bhi bahut kharch karna padta hai aur phir wo bolte hain hum itna paisa kharch karne ke liye ready nahi. Kaise hoga?
Payu
And sir wo, wo cheez na sab underground hoti hai. For example I am the admin of my society's dog parents group. Theek hai, main bahut post karta hoon usmein. Lekin because main citizen group par openly kuch post nahi kar sakta kyunki wahan par toh dog parents nahi hai wo log.
Sunny
Haan.
Payu
Wo kab aa rahe hain? Wo poora puppy laane ke baad onboard ho rahe hain aur koi ke toh aise hai ki laakar soongh mein hi apna puppy chheh mahine ka ho gaya, saat mahine ka ho gaya. Phir baad mein jaakar group mein add ho rahe hain instead of telling ten times.
Toh wo matlab haath se nikalne ke baad humko samajhte hain inke ghar mein puppy hai. Maximum wo kisko bol rahe hain? Wo surprise karke hi laate hain zyada ghar ke dog. Unke ghar mein bhi kisi ko pata nahi hai, achanak se laaya aur friend circle mein bhi kisi se decide bhi nahi kar rahe, discuss bhi nahi kar rahe.
Kisi ke paas ek hai already lab. Usko poocha, "Tune kaun se breeder se laaya?" Bas usko hi pata But that thing is not coming to us or then later on they start posting about it jab tak issue ho jaata hai.
Toh wo bhi ek loophole hai.
Sunny
Hum unki duniya mein aate hi tab hain jab unke paas dog aata hai. Wo humein na insta, na humein wo Instagram mein jaanenge, na humein wo YouTube mein jaanenge, na wo humko aise pehchanenge. Jab unke paas dog aata hai tab wo aata hai. Toh yaani ki hum abhi unki duniya mein dog ke aane ke baad aate hain.
Toh hum sirf, haan, toh sirf abhi hum wahan par tackle kar sakte hain, us jagah par. Toh us jagah par hum kaise, kaise tackle kar sakte hain? Hum apne dimaag mein ye rakh sakte hain ki jab bhi hum kisi vet se milenge, hum ek connection banayenge vet se. Vet se, vet se hum kyun connection banayenge?
Sabse pehle puppy kidhar jaata hai?
Payu
Right, first toh vaccination ke liye jaata hai 40 days, 45 days baad.
Sunny
Vet ke paas jaata hai. Saare vet ke paas jaate hain. Toh vet ke paas saara, saara group hai. Toh humein agar kabhi bhi apni audience chahiye hoti hai ya apna segment chahiye hota hai, toh humein, humein kya dekhna hota hai ki humari audience hangout kahan karti hai?
Payu
Right.
Sunny
Agar humein figure out karna hai ki humein apni audience ke paas pahunchna hai, toh hum sabse pehle kya figure out karenge? Humari audience hangout kahan karti hai? Humari audience kahan hangout kar rahi hai? Puppy ki audience kahan hangout karti hai?
Payu
Compulsion vet ke paas.
Sunny
Vet ke, vet ke paas hangout karti hai. Toh hum phir sabse pehle kahan jayenge? Hum vet ke paas jayenge. Vet se interact karenge, unse communicate karenge, unse connection banayenge. Jab ek achha repo ban jayega, then we will present our offer.
Wo har ek city mein hona chahiye ki humara ye group hai jo hum free information dete hain, free knowledge dete hain how to raise a dog so that dog can be calm and confident. You can get a amazing companion. Warna dogs par behavior issue ho jaata hai.
But wo vet ke through hi ho sakta hai agar humein puppies ko handle karna hai. So right now jo humara stage hai, jo humara status hai, hai na, wahan tak log kab pahunchte hain?
Jab dog ke andar issues aana start hota hai. Tab pahunchte hain. Hai na? Humare baare mein kab jaante hain? Humare baare mein tab jaante hain jab issue already aa chuki hai. Agar issue nahi hai toh humare baare mein nahi jaante. Lekin humein ye nahi rakhna hai ki issue aaye toh hi aap humare baare mein jaano.
Aapke paas dog aaya toh aap humare baare mein jaano taaki aapke paas koi issue hi nahi aaye. Hai na? Pro us, us, usmein rahein kyunki dog mein issue aane ke baad dikkatein hain bahut zyada. It's not easy. It's not easy. Toh hum soch ke lekar aate hain ki humara ek achha companion lagega. Lekin phir wo kya hota hai?
Hum, hum bandh jaate hain. Humare paas ek aise cases aaye the bahut ki jo family thi, wo apne kamre se baahar nahi nikalti thi because baahar dog baitha hua hai. Unhi ka dog baahar baitha hua hai. Wo apne kamre se baahar nahi nikalte the.
Woh aise karke dekhte the ki dog kidhar hai. Dog agar andar kamre mein gaya, toh bolte the, "Woh darwaza band kar le, ab main bahar niklunga." What is this? What is this? Phir toh yeh ek, ek family ki kahani nahi hai na. This is, yeh bahut saari.
Lekin woh bachha bhi aise hi aaya tha mele ki tarah ki haan bhai, hamare ghar mein achha bachha aaya hai. Full mela tha, full partiyan thi, full yeh tha. Lekin woh jab 15 mahine ka hua, toh phir kya? Difficulties, hai na? So tab unko hamare baare mein pata.
15 mahine hone ke baad, char trainers badalne ke baad then unko hamare baare mein pata. Toh hum kitne late hain. Hai na? In logon tak pahunchne tak hum kitne late hain ki woh humko, unko, unko pata hi nahi. Toh yeh hamara, hum late hain, hum late hain. Woh late nahi hai.
Unko toh pata hi nahi. Jisko pata hi nahi hai, woh kya karega? Woh kaise dhoondhega hum, humein, hum, humko? Agar usko pata hota ki main hoon, toh toh main bolun ki bhai tu late hai. Jab usko pata hi nahi hai hum hain, toh phir woh kahan ka late hai? Late hum hain.
Toh agar aap 15, agar ek, ek, ek client bol raha hai ki bhai 15 mahine ho gaye aur dog aise kar raha hai aur hum usko bol rahe hain ki aapne late kar diya. Woh late nahi hai, late hum hain. Hum us tak pahunch nahi paaye pehle. So humein apni approach change karni padegi.
Matlab jitne bhi hum log behavior ke usmein ja rahe hain aur seriously dog ke upar kaam karna chahte hain, toh puppy se start karna padega aur yeh main bahut saalon se bol raha hoon. You have to start from puppy. Puppy se start karna padega. Different, different jagah par jaana. Toh aur woh maza bhi hai. Maza bhi hai.
Matlab like puppy ke saath kaam karna. Socho, un puppies mein kabhi issues aayenge hi nahi yaar. Big guaranteed, 100% guaranteed. Agar aap puppy ko hamare paas lekar aaoge, us puppy mein kabhi bhi issue nahi aayenge.
100% guarantee. Kaun de raha hai yeh guarantee? So yeah. Toh puppies agar bachpan mein hamare paas aayengi, unke andar issues nahi aayenge. Kitna amazing companionship milega, kitna noble cause hai. Lekin un logon tak hum pahunch nahi paa rahe. Kyun?
Kyunki log hum tak, humein kab jaante hain jab aggression ke issues aa jaate, jab uski tarah issues aa jaate hain. Toh vets, vets. Do cheez hain, breeder aur vets. Toh breeder ko hata do. Hum unse, woh, us direction mein nahi ja raha tha. Hum kis direction mein ja rahe the? Vets ki direction mein.
Vet se contact banayein. Vet se contact. Jitne vet se contact banaoge, bhale aaj kuch bhi nahi kar rahe ho. Getting a point? Toh hamara contact vet se start hona chahiye. Jab bhi vet ke paas jao, just have to have some conversation, kind of ki usko pata rahe ki tum ho, kuch ho. Mann mein judgement mat lekar aao.
Agar mann mein judgement lekar aa rahe ho, toh us vet ke paas jao hi mat na.
Aise vet ke paas jao jisko tum seriously trust karte ho. Then usse conversation karo and then connection. Okay? It will help. Yes, Kavita.
Speaker 6
So yeh, yeh jo model aap discuss kar rahe ho, isko maine discuss kiya tha kuch dog parents ke saath jinke saath main kaam karti aayi hoon ki agar aisa hota ki hum kuch time pehle aap tak pahunche hote jab aapka dog puppy tha aur tab humne yeh, yeh aapke, aapko pata laga hota ki hum puppies ka socializing karayenge, hum karayenge unka matlab woh setup aisa karayenge because I was thinking about this plan and unhone kaha ki shayad hum nahi bhejte tab bhi.
Kyunki tab toh hamare paas problem hi nahi hai. Right, pehli cheez. Doosri cheez, hum isliye nahi bhejte because those, those are very close clients toh unhone bahut pyaar se achhe se bataya apne reasons ki woh kyun nahi bhejte.
Toh unka yeh ek reason bhi tha ki hum jab puppy lekar aaye the na chhota sa, woh hum lekar aaye the apni entertainment ke liye. Right? Agar woh puppy woh humne teen mahine tak bhi hone ka wait nahi kiya us puppy ko.
Humne 25-30 days mein isliye le liya us puppy ko kyunki woh cute dikhta hai and woh hamara emotional void fulfill kar raha tha. So those clients have reached to that level where they can identify those reasons why they got that puppy at that age and what mistakes they have and they are taking the accountability of it.
Now these are the parents who said ki hum teen mahine tak ka bhi wait nahi karein toh hum ek chhote se nanhe se puppy ko laakar aapke haath mein kyun denge?
Sunny
Nahi hamare haath mein nahi dena tha na. Yehi toh vet kaam aate hain. Kyunki tumhara tumhe tumhara vishwaas nahi karenge woh. Lekin listen, listen. So jab hum vet ke paas jaayenge, hum vet ke paas ek chittha lekar jaayenge.
Sir, this is the chittha lekha jokha sir, jin dogs ko teen se char mahine tak socializing nahi mila, unke andar yeh behavioral issues ho gaye. Toh aap toh mana kar rahe ho ki vaccination ki nahi hogi jo sahi baat bhi hai sir.
Toh sir kya saare jo vaccinated hue hue hain puppies woh ek saath mil sakte hain taaki unke andar issues nahi create ho. Toh jab is tareeke se jab vet onboard hoga, vet jab unko bolega ki yeh number hai, aapko is puppy ko socialize karana zaroori hai otherwise mein behavioral issues aa jaayenge.
Woh aate hain, main experienced hoon, maine dekha hua hai kind of thing. Jab woh bolega toh woh tum par number ghumayenge aur tum bologe 10 tareekh ko yahan par session ho raha hai jahan par puppies aa rahe hain all vaccinated. Aap bhi humein vaccination ka apna card bhej do.
Then probability increase ho jaayegi unke aane ki. Okay. Aise increase nahi hogi. Tum jaakar bologe na aise vet kyunki abhi woh tumko nahi jaante. Okay. Agar koi mujhe jaanta hai, mere ko pehchaanta hai, meri authority ko samajhta hai toh main usko bol sakta hoon.
Lekin koi bhi agar raah chalta aur main usko bolun ki yaar aise mat kar aur woh bolega eh tu bahut padha hai. Phir woh bolega tujhe pata bhi hai tu kisse bol raha hai. Usko jab pata hi nahi hai toh phir kaise kaam karega? Samajh na maine kya bola. Woh workout hi nahi karega.
Matlab yahan par log line par lage hain humko consultation par ghar par bulaane ke liye aur humein koi sadak par mil raha hai aur hum usko consultation dene ki koshish karein aur woh humko mana kar, mana kar de raha hai. Kyun? Kyunki usko- I know what you saying. Haan, usko pata nahi hai hum kaun hain.
Toh obviously na workout nahi karega.
Toh hamari baatein koi nahi sunega agar unko pata nahi hai toh. Lekin vet, woh vet ke paas lekar gaye na toh isliye vet se contact banana zaroori hai.
Speaker 6
Ek aur sawaal hai vet se related bhi. Is waale line par ki I might be generalizing this but I have seen with this experience around vets ki vets want the problem to come so that they can have the money generated from the problem.
Sunny
No, no, no that's not okay.
Speaker 6
This could be a generalized view.
Sunny
Generalized view hai. Generalized view hai. Bahut achhe-achhe vets bhi hain jo achha kaam kar rahe hain. Obviously unko business run karna hai, lekin unka yeh nahi ki humein problem... jo unko medical padhai, yeh system hi aisa hai. Aisa nahi ki woh aisa hai. Woh system hi aisa hai. Medical ka system symptom based hai.
Symptoms ke upar lagayi jaati hai.
Kyun bataun kyun? Kyunki maximum issue lifestyle problem hai. Toh tum doctor par vet ke paas jaoge toh tum yeh maan ke chalo na ki tum lifestyle par work nahi kar rahe ho isliye you need that, that kind of thing medicine or thing. Yeh kitne saare skin ke issues jo hai lifestyle issues hai.
Kitne saare vomiting ke issues lifestyle issues hai. Jo excessive time hum antibiotics dete hain again woh lifestyle ke issues. Sir aisa nahi hai.
Speaker 6
Ab ek cheez aapko aur mujhe pata hai ki yeh saare issues lifestyle issues hain toh doctor kyun chahega ki woh lifestyle par pehle hi kaam ho jaye ki problem hi na aaye, na symptom aaye.
Sunny
Saare vets ko nahi. Woh system mein hai. Us system mein is cheez ke upar jaise ghode hote hain, unko ek cheez ke baare mein pata rehta hai. Hai na. Hum multiple directions mein chale gaye. Humne idhar padh liya, udhar padh liya. They are studying their own system.
Toh unke system mein woh lifestyle disease ke baare mein nahi hai. Nutrition chhota sa part hai vet ka aur nutrition is the reason of 90% se upar bimariyan in dogs or in humans. Nutrition. Lekin nutrition ek chhota part hai. Ab yeh kyun hai that is a different matter yaar.
Woh hum us cheez ke upar nahi ja rahe ki aisi padhai kyun banayi? Aisa curriculum kyun racha tumne jismein nutrition ka part nahi hai. Toh bhai jinhone fund kiya humein unke paas jaana padega. Agar tumhe apna banana hai toh tum fund karke bana do na. Kisne roka hai tumko?
Humne fund kiya, humari dawaiyon ki company hai toh hum apne hisab se banayenge na. We are fair, hai na. Yes, you are right. Agar tumhe apna system banana hai jismein tum nutrition ke upar par dhyan doge toh tu apna bana na. Bhai main nahi bana sakta. Mere paas fund nahi hai. Toh phir jo hai us par kaam chalao.
Ya phir ja apna kaam kar.
Matlab unki taraf se toh aisa reply aayega na kind of thing. So woh unka system hai. Lekin respectfully hum us se baat karte hain kyunki woh bahut jaan bhi bachate hain. Hai na. Aur bahut achhe-achhe vets bhi hote hain, yeh sab cheezein. Toh yeh har ek profession mein hi hai.
Dog behaviorists bhi tumhe kharab mil jayenge, tumhe achhe mil jayenge. Dog trainer bhi tumhe aise mil jayenge. Har ek profession mein police walon se lekar sab jagah, sab jagah black and white sab jagah hai. Hai na poori life hai. Toh vets bhi hai. Toh jo tumhe sahi lage, unse aise baat kar lo.
Ek vet ke paas bahut puppies aayein. Toh tum ek vet ko bhi cover nahi kar paoge right now jo ability hai. Toh that is the... toh kitna opportunity hai par koi nahi kar raha. It's a big opportunity. Koi nahi kar raha. Lekin nayi cheez puppies ka woh kar raha hoon. Nayi cheez hai but opportunity hai.
Speaker 6
Cool.
Sunny
Okay. Yes, Rapti. Iska video off kar diya. I think healthy nahi hai. Parth.
Speaker 4
Ek thoda weird thought hai ki jaise hum log abhi apna dog behaviorist bolte hain. Agar uske baad behavioral trainer laga de so that a more approach open se.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 4
Kyunki jab maine dhoonda tha toh mera pehle tha ki mere ko trainer chahiye kyunki mere ko pata nahi tha behaviorist kya hota hai.
Sunny
Good idea. Good idea. Actually main is cheez se bahut joojh raha hoon kyunki Google mein mere ko ranking nahi milti hai kyunki behavioral ka koi woh nahi hai. Lekin behavioral training is a good thing. Rapti ki nahi not this thing ki apan behavioral training ke pages banayenge so that we can get Google ranking.
So yeah continue aur kya bol raha tha ki behavior training.
Speaker 1
Yeh samajh mein aa gaya.
Speaker 6
But tumne ek aur idea diya tha us din mujhe.
Woh bhi hum yahan par discuss karte hain sab logon ke liye jismein tumne bola tha ki hum dog behavior training kyun bol rahe hain. Hum toh yahan par dog ke upar zyada kaam nahi kar rahe na. Yahan toh hum human parenting ke upar kaam kar rahe hain.
So tumne ek shabd us din bola tha mujhe which I did not have pen to pen it down. But that was a very good word that you used. Can you recall that and share with everyone here?
Sunny
Ab yaad nahi aayega. Genius aise chalte phirte ideas phenk deta hai. Yaad nahi rahega.
So behavior training is a good word aur yeh match bhi karega kyunki generally log trainer se dhoond rahe hote hain aur yeh message convey karna unko bridge par lekar aane mein woh bhi lagta hai like information lagti hai ki kya matlab hota hai behavior.
Lekin behavioral training Google ke perspective se toh kaafi achha hai, samjhane ke perspective se. Cool hai, good word. Yes, Sakshi. Sakshi tera haath dikh raha hai.
Speaker 7
Yes, sorry, I have to just go somewhere. So I was just like thinking about the topic which you are discussing going to vet and like telling him.
But thing is like I think this is awareness, more awareness issue because we don't have to tell parents to train their dog like they always want to train their dogs with sit, stay, down. This is a fascinating thing. So they are looking out for that rather the vet suggested it or not suggested it.
They just want it because that might be they find it cool or everyone is doing or something. And why it is there? Because they are aware of it and they have seen it everywhere. So I think it's more of an awareness issue rather than a thing.
So people are not aware that they have to train their dogs or puppies when they are like pups because this is a human psychology thing because they are not even training their puppies as well. Woh bachhe aise hi paida kar dete hain aur aise hi grow kar rahe hain.
So apne bachhon ke liye bhi woh train nahi kar, matlab kuch education nahi dete how to raise a kid.
Sunny
Got it.
Speaker 7
So it's an awareness issue rather than...
Sunny
No, dekho, yeh toh obvious si baat hai. Awareness ka issue toh hai hi sahi, lekin woh awareness pahunchayega kaun?
Speaker 7
Hum log.
Sunny
Nahi, tum hum par trust nahi kar rahe na. Humare tak toh woh pahunch hi tab rahe jab, humein kab dhoondte ho? Ek pehli problem humne kahan kya dekhi? Aapki problem bhi sahi. Ek problem humne kahan dekhi ki woh humare tak kab pahunchte hain jab unki dog mein issues aa jaati hain. Tab woh hum tak pahunch pa rahe hain.
Tab woh dhoond rahe hain bhai kaun behaviorist hai, kaun trainer hai.
Usse pehle toh woh dhoond bhi nahi rahe. Yeh common cheez hai. So hum tab kab pahunche jab unhone puppy li hai hi. Hum tab kab pahunche unke paas woh awareness phailane wale. So woh awareness vet de sakta hai. Lekin ab vet kyun apna time dega us cheez ko? Vet kyun utna time dega?
Toh is problem ko solve karne ke liye hum kya bol sakte hain? Sir, yeh QR code hai aur ismein puppy ke baare mein poora humne diya hua hai. Kind of thing. Hai na, yeh QR code hai aur yeh puppy ke baare mein humne poora diya hua hai aur is par aapki clinic ka naam bhi aa sakta hai, is poore ke poore iske upar.
Aap apne clients ko yeh share kar sakte ho. Humne puppy ke behavior ke baare mein diya hua hai free mein. Kind of thing. So woh free ka hum unko video denge aur neeche bolenge agar aapko aur jaanna hai toh aap humara WhatsApp ka group join kar sakte ho jismein hum puppy ke baare mein bata rahe hain.
Is tareeke se hum unko lead kar, lekin vet is our jhanda. Wahan se aage badhegi baat. Warna hum puppy, dekho bhai, humne try karke, apan ne try karke dekha tha. Matlab we, humne market research kiya, humne figure out kiya, hum awareness mein gaye.
Humein sirf ek hi cheez samajh mein aayi aur bahut time se main bol raha hoon yeh cheez ki agar puppies, jab puppies lekar aaye aur humein tabhi ghusna hai, tabhi humein onboard hona hai toh vet ke through. Otherwise woh nahi.
So now jab humein yeh fix ho gaya ki woh vet ke through ho sakta hai, tab humein idea hoga kaise. Kya karein? Kis tareeke se vet se baat karein? Toh pehli baat hai ki hum unko bolenge hum yeh group run kar, yeh group run kar rahe hain jahan par hum socializing karate hain, pehla idea.
Doosra idea, yeh hamara online free videos hai, free course hai puppy ke baare mein ki puppy ko kaise karna hai taaki woh nahi ho.
Ab hum ismein aur segment daal sakte hain yeh German Shepherd puppy ke baare mein, yeh Indie puppy ke baare mein taaki zyada relate kar sakein. But this is all work. Hai na, if we want to do this, we can do this puppy ke andar.
But this is all work aur I think Sakshi apan ko ek baar isko shot dena chahiye ki let's do this. Karke, karke dekhte hain. Hai na, do-teen vets apne contact mein we yeh karke dekhte hain ki puppies ko onboard lekar aate hain, dekhte hain unke paas awareness le aakar apan ko kya results milte hain.
Taaki apan phir proof ke saath baaki logon ke saath share kar sakenge ki humne kya approach run kari aur kya. Abhi toh right now it's all theory jo vet ke saath hai. It's all theory. Hai na, matlab like well thought out kind of theory hai, lekin yeh theory hai. Toh yeh humne run nahi kara hai is cheez ko.
Hamare contacts zaroor hain. But we can start doing this. So puppies ke group ban sakte hain. Phir aap log jitni bhi cities mein ho, you can do this because yeh physical thing hai.
This kind of thing like course same ho sakta hai, video same ho sakte hain, lekin jo group banega wahan par, jo physical location wala group banega, woh har ek city ka alag-alag banna chahiye taaki puppies wahin se grow ho sakein. So it's a huge gap right now in the market. It's a business opportunity completely.
It's a big business opportunity. Kisi ko samajh mein aa raha hai how this is a business opportunity? Okay na, you are getting woh right na ki yahan business opportunity kaise hai. Yes, Sakshi.
Speaker 1
Hi, toh mera question thoda sa nutrition se related tha ki kai baar aisa dekha hai ki jab dog hai ek, usko thoda vomiting ho rahi hai.
Let's say usko ek din mein do baar vomiting ho chuki hai. Aapne khana diya and he is puking it out. And I take the dog to the vet ki bhai mujhe nahi pata hai abhi aur mere ko toh yeh hai ki bhai do baar ulti ho chuki hai, ab usko vet ke paas le jao.
Main vet ke paas lekar gayi hoon aur sabse pehle toh aapko gastrointestinal food wale jo hote hain woh de dete hain soft hona chahiye this and that aur agar usko yeh batao ki theek hai yeh dog hai iska body ka khud hi reset hoga. Woh apna time le raha hai.
Woh body accept nahi kar pa rahi hai food and the vet is like arey tumne itni der se isko khana hi nahi diya hai. Aise toh kaise kamzori ho jayegi? Tum bhi dekho tum bhi nahi khaate ho toh kamzor ho jaate ho.
Aisi situation mein kaise deal karna chahiye because I recently had a friend jiske saath same issue hua hai ki uska matlab senior dog hai.
I think he is 10 or 11 years old Labrador hai and I also and we live in Mumbai toh maine unko yeh bhi batane ki koshish kari ki kyunki there is also like environmental factor right ki Mumbai ki kabhi humidity hai ya certain things that could impact ki aapka dog khana kha raha hai ya nahi kha raha hai plus there is also transition going on.
Usmein bhi kai saare dogs ekdum se khana chhod dete hain and obviously kyunki woh senior hai toh thoda sa zyada concern ho gaye the uski health ko lekar and the doctor was like ki nahi nahi aap sab khana do. Ek meal toh usko poori do bhi.
Maine usko yeh bhi bolne ki koshish kari ki agar aap poori meal matlab utna jo aap dete ho 800-900 grams uski jagah aap thoda-thoda karke bhi usko maybe de-deke try kar sakte ho.
But yes obviously.
Sunny
Do baar vomit not a big thing for dogs. It's not a big thing. Do baar vomit kar sakte hain. Teen baar vomit kar sakte hain. Kai baar unhone suppose kar liya pichhle din kuch zyada kha liya. Unko gas ho gayi toh vomit kar kar ke baahar nikaal denge. Poora din vomit kar lenge.
Speaker 1
Right.
Sunny
Lekin wahi na ghabrahat bahut zyada hoti hai aaj ke time par human ko bimari ko dekh ke hai na that is because of knowledge ki kami hai. Hai na nutrition ki, health ki in sab cheezon ki. Matlab main sirf dogs ki baat nahi kar raha.
Main toh abhi aajkal har cheez mein hi dekh raha hoon ki thodi si ulti ho gayi ya phir thoda sa kuch dard hota ho toh dawai pehli cheez.
Speaker 1
Turant haan.
Sunny
Dawai turant cheez hoti hai. Toh abhi toh poori society ka hi aisa hota ja raha hai. Hai na we are going towards ki humein fast aaram chahiye.
Ek-do din se kya hua kuch. Kuch problem toh nahi ho gayi ya kuch yeh toh nahi ho gaya and then we go there. So yeh toh ek common si cheez hai ki do baar agar dog ko vomit aa gayi toh hum dog ko lekar jaate hain. Wahan par usko antibiotics lagti hai, anti-nausea lagta hai.
Usko khane ka pakda diya jaata hai aur phir usko waapas bulaya jaata hai ki agle din phir waapas aana aur same course waapas se start hota hai. Anti-nausea hoga toh dog turant numb rehta hai usko aata hi nahi kuch. Ki doctor sahab yeh din bhar aise hi pada hua tha isne paani bhi nahi piya.
Toh theek hai bhai ab ismein paani ki bottle bhi chadha dete hain. Phir paani ki bottle chadhti hai usko. Phir multivitamins ke injections laga diye jaate hain usko us do vomit ke upar. Jabki kuch bhi aisa nahi tha. Toh do vomit ke upar ab dekho sirf do vomit ki baat nahi hai.
Kai baar dog ko poop mein blood bhi aata hai aur woh bhi common hai.
Woh bhi it's not a that bhai kuch toh bahut hi kharab baat ho gayi. Hai na poop mein blood kaise aa gaya aur yeh sab cheezon. Dog kuch bhi cheez khaate rehte hain. Unke intestine mein kuch bhi cheez nikalti hai, kuch bhi growth nikalti hai, unse blood aata hai, lekin theek ho jaata hai.
You know it's not ki woh continuously andar leakage ho gaya, andar chhed ho gaya jo insano ke dimaag mein aata hai. Lekin because of this darr dog blood se nahi mara treatment se mar jaata hai. Kyunki-kyunki jab is tareeke ke cases aate hain toh vets ki galti nahi hai. Wahan par SOPs hoti hai.
So main ek software mein work kar raha tha jo vets ke liye hai na kar raha hoon jo vets ke liye hai. So us vets jab uski main study kar raha tha tab mere ko samajh mein aaya ki aisa nahi hai ki vets ke paas jaate ho woh tumhe instinct se jab dawai dete hain ya knowledge se tumhe dawai dete hain.
Yeh bimari ki yeh SOP hai. There is a SOP. Woh SOP kisne banayi? Woh SOP kisne banayi?
Speaker 1
Research mein ya bade-bade pharma ne kar raha.
Sunny
Jo bhi fund kar raha hai. Jo bhi fund kar raha hai padhai unhone banayi hai. So their unka major part hai uske andar unhone banaya. Kuch bhi ho sakta hai, lekin SOP hai, SOP hai.
So SOP agar tum samajh rahe ho ki do vomit hogi aur yeh vet antibiotic dega aur tumhe lag raha hai ki doosra vet antibiotic nahi dega aisa nahi hai. Har ek vet wahi cheez follow karega jo SOP bani hui hai. So agar aap vet ke paas lekar ja rahe ho aapko unke system ke according hi phir woh karna padega tum apne.
Toh agar aap unke paas lekar jaate ho dog ko antibiotics lagegi, dog ko anti-nausea lagega, dog ko DNS ki bottle chadhegi bhale hi usko zaroorat ho ya nahi ho.
Kayi baar instincts humare batate hain clinical signs humko batate hain nahi that's yeh cheez hai aur iska yeh procedure hai. So that is a again big gap jo health mein hai.
Speaker 1
Toh aisi situation mein matlab main- ek person jiski authority hai woh mana kar sakta hai.
Sunny
Woh guide kar sakta hai. For example jo log mujhe jaante hain main un logon ko guide kar sakta hoon ki aapko vet ke paas lekar jaane ki zaroorat nahi hai. Hai na lekin that is coming out of experience and out of knowledge and out of my study it is not ki kyunki kayi baar zaroorat bhi hoti hai.
Kayi baar vet ke paas- Obviously. Kayi baar vet ke paas kayi baar do ulti aane ke baad bhi zaroorat hoti hai. Baaki cheezein bhi poochte hain aankhein kaisi hai? Uski teeth kaisi, uski tongue kaisi hai? Neelapan dikh raha hai kya? Drowsiness dikh raha hai kya?
Kind of thing gir raha hai kya baar-baar chalte-chalte kya ho raha hai? Woh toh baaki cheezein bhi dekhne padte hain uski. Lekin woh authority se aati hai. Toh humein apni itni authority banani hoti hai ki hum vet ke level par khade ho sakein, jo meri difficulty hai.
Speaker 1
Haan because dekh maine ek vet se mera interaction jo hua tha woh poora isi basis par tha ki maine toh itne saal biology padhi hai toh how can you contradict it and I am like- matlab unka- Biology also works differently in different body parts aap sabko.
Sunny
No nahi but yeh jaise suppose kar lo yeh answer nahi hota ki humne itne saalon se biology padhi hai. Matlab which means what ki aap mere argument ko sawaal nahi de paaye, aap answer hi nahi de paa rahe ho na.
So kayi baar mere bhi vet se junior vets se, senior vets se nahi senior vets toh I don't know why woh phir bhi samajhte hain hum kya bol rahe hain.
Senior vets jo bhi mere contacts mein hai na woh sab samajhte hain junior vets it's like they are woh apne aap ko senior vets se bhi woh samajhte hain. Toh junior vets se kayi baar baat hoti hai ticks ke baare mein, Simparica ke baare mein. Woh toh Bravecto toh dena chahte hain.
Woh andar pair rakhti hain, mujhe bolte hain Bravecto do, Bravecto do, Bravecto do. Toh maine toh unko pakad liya tha ki why Bravecto do? Unke liver aur kidney par jo hoga ki nahi young hai na. Maine kaha young ka matlab kya unke liver aur kidney par asar nahi padta.
Speaker 1
Young hai toh bhai young age se un par impact karna shuru kar do.
Sunny
Haan young matlab young hai toh kya? Bhale young hai toh khilao aur agar usme kuch issue hai toh mat khilao. Matlab kyun? Aisa kya hai dawai mein? Aisa kya hai dawai mein? Toh chup. Toh kuch bhi nahi. Nahi, nahi, nahi yeh toh dena hi padta hai. Phir aap dekh lo ticks zyada achhi hain kya? Phir yeh achhi hai.
Maine kaha yeh kya baat hui?
Yeh kya baat hui? Hai na ki ticks zyada achhi hain aur yeh sab baatein hain. Ab jawaab thodi der. Toh hum manage kar sakte hain ticks ko. Usi tareeqe se hum dog ki yeh bimariyon ko bhi manage kar sakte hain. Kyunki dogs sabse badi positive cheez main batata hoon dogs ke saath. Dogs generally healthy hote hain.
Okay agar hum unko understand kar jaaye unki us cheez ko level ko, woh generally healthy hote hain aur jis tareeqe se humans apni craving ko control nahi kar sakta waise bhi waise hi dog bhi apni craving ko control nahi kar sakte. Lekin dog khud dabbi khol ke biscuits nikaal jaise human nikaal sakta hai.
Toh dog jaldi recover ho jaate hain humans se. Lekin humans recover nahi ho paate jaldi. Kyunki human ke paas taqat hai apne aap ko tabaah karne ki. Dog ke paas aisi taqat nahi. Hum unko zaroor kar sakte hain. Toh that's the achhe-achhe yahan par dekho achhe-achhe business opportunities bhi humko saamne aa rahi hai.
Jaise-jaise tum grow hote jaoge is field mein aur aage aate jaoge na aur tumhari understanding aayegi tumhe yeh business opportunity clearly dikhne lag jaayegi. Hai na phir hum ek team ki tarah kaam kar sakte hain different, different cheezon ke upar.
But ek yeh business opportunities tumhe kya-kya samajh mein aayi jaise aaj humne baat kari big problems ke upar. Big problem kya hai? Bachhon ko ghar ke andar rakhna teen se chaar mahine ke baad bhi right. Woh ek sabse badi, sabse badi dikkat hai. Kyun?
Woh health wise sahi hai jo vet bol rahe hain, lekin mental wise tabaahi hai. Mental wise aur tabaahi sirf do-teen mahine ki nahi hai ki haan bhai chalo do-teen mahine baad mil lega. Arre nahi woh lifelong tabaahi hai. Toh the first cheez humein yeh samajh mein aayi.
Humein doosri cheez samajh mein aayi ki awareness nahi hai. Kaise hum awareness phaila sakte hain. Toh vets ke paas jaakar hum awareness phaila sakte hain.
Toh yeh all these cheezein hai na market ke gaps hain jo koi bhi nahi kar raha. These are new things. Sab log kya kar rahe hain? Dog trainer kar rahe hain, dog behaviourist kar rahe hain, boarding kar rahe hain, grooming kar rahe hain. Socializing ka kya? Hai na logon ko guide karne ka kya?
Ki logon ko guide kar sakein. Agar koi tumhare paas vet ka kuch lekar aa raha hai toh tum us par research kar sako. Uska kya kaun research karega in sab logon mein? Matlab jo hum karte hain. Matlab main vet thodi hoon, lekin aap log mujhe kuch bolte ho toh main uske upar research karta hoon.
Usse kya hota hai meri knowledge badhti hai. Mujhe aur samajh mein aata hai meri puraani. Toh mere like waise stack ke upar stack hoti hai na phir cheezein apni. Hai na. Haan so jaise-jaise tum padhte rahoge na tumhari skills ek stack ke upar stack hoti rahegi and then business opportunities big hoti rahegi.
So by the end of this term you will understand lot of thing about this market ki kaise humein professionally tum dog ke baare mein toh samjhoge, samjhoge but market ke baare mein bhi samjhoge gap kahan par hai, gaps kahan par hai.
Kyunki hum sab dogs wale hain na. Hum dogs log hain na Rakhi log. Toh humein pata hai humari kya dikkatein hain. Humse achha dikkato ko kaun jaanta hai? Koi corporate jaanta hai kya? Corporation jaanta hai kya? Koi nahi jaanta. Kya pedigree wale jaante hain kya humse achha humari dikkat ko?
Jab woh pedigree wale jaante hain aur bahut time se research kar rahe hain. Toh jitne bhi food industry wale hain they are like woh bahut zyada research mein rehte hain. Research dog ke upar nahi consumer ke upar.
Speaker 1
Haan.
Sunny
Consumer behaviour ke upar yaani humare upar not dog ke upar. Consumer behaviour ke upar.
Speaker 1
Haan matlab jaise ek bahut hi silly sa example hai ki dog toys banate hain companies.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 1
Then uske baad they are putting like yeh yellow color ka toy for your girl and then pink for your female dog. I am like bhai tum kya kar rahe ho?
Payu
Accessories, accessories for dogs, accessories for dogs and then coloring their hairs and all that stuff.
Sunny
So we are the clients. Okay we are the clients. Toh woh humare upar consume karte hain. Again so hum bas hum different hain. Hum jis tareeke se business karna chaahte hain hum different hain. Hum dog perspective se jaate hain. Hai na so obviously humein success thoda dheere-dheere milti hai.
Kyunki market mein like human consumerism hai na. Hai na toh dog haan so hum dog ke perspective se jaate hain. Toh humara growth slow hota hai relatively. Lekin humara growth long term rehta hai and then sustainable rehta hai. Because we are like right partner.
Speaker 1
Yeah.
Sunny
Yeah dog ke perspective se jaa rahe hain hum business perspective se nahi jaa rahe. Business uske upar build kar rahe hain but from dog perspective. Okay so toh fun hai.
Speaker 1
Abhi jaise main Barfi ko bhi neeche lekar jaati hoon toh society mein bahut saare bachhe hain. Bolte hain army dog hai, army dog hai. Kya isko pet kar sakte hain? Maine bola haan bilkul kar sakte ho. Toh kuchh bachhe hote hain jo ekdam bhaag rahe hote hain, chilla rahe hote hain.
Then I have to calm them down ki beta kuchh nahi hoga. Thoda saans lo tum bhi thoda woh bhi lo. Aur agar nahi ho paa raha hai toh usko roz dekho woh bhi tumhein pehchaan jaayega, tum bhi usko pehchaan jaaoge.
Sunny
Yes.
Speaker 1
So it's been good like humko idhar pe aaye hue I think two week haan kal hi two weeks hue hain ghar mein aaye hue and Barfi is already comfortable with 10 children around him.
Sunny
Arre waah very good. Very good, good. Aasa bata.
Payu
And sorry also one more thing.
Sunny
Yeah.
Payu
Hum jo commercial industry ka baat kar rahe hain toh unhone na humans pet parents ka ek psychology understand kiya hai ki people say ki woh mera bachha hai.
Sunny
Haan.
Payu
Abhi bachha hai bolne ke liye wahan tak theek hai ki main bachhe ke itna important hai that is different thing. Lekin main usko bachhe jaisa hi treat karunga human child aur woh jab waise karne lag jaa rahe hain jaise shaadi karaana, yeh sab karaana, shoes pehnaana usko.
Phir usko bhi matlab usko bhi kuchh jo kids ko pehnaate hain woh sab cheezein comedy karte hain.
Sunny
Yeah.
Payu
Isko hi understand karke phir yeh naye-naye products bante hain jo-jo cheezein ban rahi hai aur unko bas woh mera bachha hai samajh gaye ek baar toh phir waise woh kama rahe hain log. Toh lekin hum woh humko as a behaviourist ya phir pehle toh yahi bolna hai ki woh dog hai, woh alag specie hai.
Bachhon ko alag rakho, humans ko alag rakho. Usko human mat banao na. Kyunki human banaane ke peeche yeh sab chochle start ho rahe hain na.
Sunny
Nahi yeh nahi bol sakte.
Payu
Human kyun bana rahe hain hum aise?
Sunny
Nahi yeh nahi bol sakte. Kyunki dekho samjho is baat ko.
human banaane ka matlab hai ki hum usko apne level ka samajhte hain. okay, dog unki nazar se dekho, consumer ki tarah se dekho. dog banaane ki agar hum toh bol rahe hain toh uska matlab hum usse unko chhota samajh rahe hain. Bhale humare kehne ka woh matlab nahi hai. correct baat.
Hum yeh thodi keh rahe hain dog ko chhota samjho. Lekin hum kehna kya chaahte hain ki dog ki apni zarooratein hoti hain. Woh humein poori karni hai. Pehle toh uski shaadi karao that is completely okay. Tumhara look aap keh rahe ho woh sab cheezein karao. Lekin dog ki apni zarooratein hoti hain aur woh complete karo.
Aur agar aap unki shaadi kara rahe ho, yeh kara rahe ho toh yeh maan ke chalo ki unko loud noises se problem aati hai. Hai na toh us tareeke se karao, shaanti wali shaadi karao. Samjha aapko. Hai na toh hum unke sapno pe woh nahi maarte.
Speaker 6
Aise mein aisa bolte hain woh bachhe hain. Woh kutte ke bachhe hain jo hum paal rahe hain.
Woh bachhe hain mana nahi kar rahe koi.
Sunny
But woh like kutta. Kyunki dekho saamne wala jab dog bolte hain, kutta bolte hain, unki nazar mein uska matlab hai unse neeche wali prajaati. that is the fact. Aur jab woh hum bolte hain ki woh unko insaanon ki tarah, hum toh isko bhai insaanon ki tarah treat karte hain.
Iska matlab hai woh unko uske level ka treat kar rahe hain, apne level ka treat kar rahe hain. Lekin agar hum unko bolenge nahi inko kutton ki tarah treat karo toh woh yeh nahi samjhenge ki kutton ki jo need hoti hai usko poora karo. Woh kya samjhenge?
Woh yeh samjhenge ki aap unse bol rahe ho ki inko ek neeche ki tarah dekho. Saara message hi wrong ho jaayega. Samjha tumko.
Payu
Lekin main yahi toh bol raha hoon na ki when we are working as a behaviorist aadmi usko khud ke jaise soch raha hai ki woh spotty eyes uspe usko itna chalaya aur ghar laya.
Usko lag raha hai ki usko pata hai yeh dog hai. Lekin uske liye woh uska beta bhi hai. Koi kuchh bole toh woh jhagda bhi karega saamne wale ke saath. Lekin he is very okay with the thought ki isko bas itna hi walk de rahe hain human jaisa jo main karta hoon khaana khaane ke baad that is fine.
Toh these things humko tabhi toh behavior mein hum log usko bifurcate kar rahe hain ki dog ek species hai, uski yeh needs hai.
Toh woh toh bifurcation main waise bol raha hoon ki bachha literally human ke saath hi usko attach kar rahe hain ki uske needs ya phir woh ghar mein sirf khelega, chalne ki itni kya zaroorat hai? Ya phir jaise ki haathi bhi khelaate hain. Waise hum unko differentiate kar rahe hain.
Speaker 6
and on top of it to add to this what Vaayu said ki jab hum bolte hain na hum bachhe ki taraf tarah dekh rahe hain usko. Hum bachhon ke saath bhi waisa vyavhaar nahi kar rahe jo karna chaahiye insaani bachhon ke saath.
Jo unke mental health ke liye better hai. Toh phir wahi mental health disorders hum log dogs ke saath bhi replicate kiye jaa rahe hain because parenting ke bases aur fundamentals mein gadbad ho rakhi hai ki hum unko lekar hi aaye hain isliye ki humein entertainment mile. Humare entertainment ke liye.
Main maanti hoon sir ki aap jo bol rahe ho na ki humara maangna unse koi cheez galat nahi hai, woh main bhi maanti hoon. Lekin woh toh two way road hai na that you have to give before we expect the dog or the human child to behave in a certain way.
Sunny
Yeh toh hai na matlab jis tareeke se hum baat kar rahe hain na yeh toh ek kind of woh lagta hai ki like hum ek debate ki us cheez mein jaa rahe hain ki haan bhai humein iski tarah karna chaahiye.
Lekin agar hum ise samjhaane ke perspective se jaayenge na kisi human ko toh hum usse bolenge ki aap like aajkal matlab yeh bahut hi achhi baat hai ki hum isko ek insaan ki tarah dekhte hain.
Sabse pehle humein is tareeke se bolna hota hai. Yeh bahut hi achhi baat hai ki hum ek jo dog hai hum usko ek insaan ki tarah dekh rahe hain aur kaun dekhta hai aajkal. Lekin aapki taraf se usko itna pyaar mil raha hai. Lekin phir bhi woh ek dog toh hai na. Lekin uska yeh matlab nahi hai ki woh humse neeche hai.
Mera kehne ka yeh matlab hai ki woh dog hai aur uski apni zarooratein hoti hain. Jis tareeke se aap male ho, aap female ho, aap dono ki alag-alag zaroorat hai. Usi tareeke se woh ek different species hai aur uski toh apni zaroorat hoti hai. Toh uski zaroorat kya hoti hai?
then hum usko is tareeke se bridge karke lekar aate hain. Hum kabhi bhi unko yeh nahi bolenge ki aap usko human ki tarah mat samjho. Hum usko kya bolenge? it's a beautiful thing. Actually it is a beautiful thing. Unko aisa information nahi hai, unko understanding nahi hai ki woh kya kar rahe hain.
human ki tarah dog ko samajhna is equal to apne mind mein baithao is equal to hum usko apne level ka samjho.
that is a good thing. hum usko apne level ka samajhkar hum uski shaadi kara rahe hain. getting a point? hum uska apne level ka samajh ke hum usko lambi walk pe lekar ja rahe hain kyonki hum usko time denge ki wo hamare level ka hai chhota nahi hai. ye do alag-alag cheez hain na. dono alag-alag cheez hain.
lekin aayi kahan se apne level ka soch. toh main yahan par dogs ko apne level, main unko human nahi samajhta. hai na matlab. lekin mere ko pata hai na human ko, lekin main unse apne neeche bhi nahi samajhta.
lekin agar aap kisi human se jo client se aapke, aap unke paas jaakar is tareeke se bologe toh unko ye perceive hoga message aapka. ki aap unko bol rahe ho ki dog ko daant ke rakho, phatkaar ke rakho, unko apni place pe rakho. they will understand like this. toh aapka message poora gadbad ho jayega.
agar hum theek se communicate karna chahte hain. kisi bhi insaan se agar aap communicate karna chahte ho, interact karna chahte ho, first we agree hota hai. pehle agree hona zaroori hai. jab hum agree hote hain toh mind ke gates khulte hain. agar aap agree nahi hote mind ke gates band ho jaate hain.
aapko apni baat karni hai. lekin pehle mind ke gate khologe na toh phir tumhe apna motive sochna padega. tum bas apni baat bolna chahte ho ya seriously samjhana chahte ho. toh agar tum sirf apni baat bolna chahte ho toh don't wait ki unka mind khula rahe. lekin agar tum samjhana chahte ho then wait ki unka mind khole.
lekin unka mind kaise khulega? hum bridge banate hain. bridge kaise banate hain? unki right now kahan position hai aur aap unko kahan lekar jaana chahte hain.
uske beech mein bridge hota hai. abhi dog ke saath hum bridge banate hain na. humein kya chahiye aur wo kya kar raha hai. jaise Mania beti ke saath hum bridge banaye na. dheere-dheere step by step, step by step karke.
waise hum humans ke saath bhi bridge banate hain ki uski understanding kahan par hai aur hum usko kahan par lekar jaana chahte hain. step by step by agreeing. Not by disagree. jab hum agree hote hain toh gates khulte hain. jab hum disagree hote hain toh gate band hote hain.
humein agree hokar apni baat rakhni okay apni baat rakhni aur chehre par focus rakhna hai unke. toh phir samajh mein aayega ki tumhari kaun si baat se disagreement aa raha hai. toh tum kya karoge? waapas se backward jaakar phir se explain karoge cheezon ko clearly.
aur agar phir bhi nahi ho paaya toh ghar jaakar tum seekhoge. yaar wo disagree hua, isse kyon disagree hua and how can I improve this thing?
You will find ways logon se communicate karne ka. Communication is a skill jo humein learn karni hoti hai. apni baat rakhna is a skill. kitne log apni baat rakh paate hain aur kitne log apni baat andar hi daba lete hain.
logon ko lagta hai wo apni baat rakh lete hain, lekin kitni baar hum andar hi rakh lete hain ki yaar wo mujhe yeh kaam nahi karna, lekin andar hi rakh liya ki ab kaise bolun.
aur phir ek time aisa aata hai ki hum jab chillaakar batate hain, jab hum poora bhar jaate hain, tab frustration se batate hain, tab anger se batate hain. toh khaaskar anger, frustration aur yeh jo last hota hai na, burst hota hai na, yeh unhi logon ke andar hota hai jo bahut time se suppress kar rahe ho cheezon ko.
hai na. aur unhi ke saath hota hai jo khaaskar yeh bolte nahi, hum toh apni-apni baat rakh dete hain. unko pata hi nahi hota hai yeh suppression thing.
aur yeh dog ke saath bhi hota hai. agar hum dog ko suppress karte hain toh burst hota hai. Human ke saath bhi hota hai. hum suppress karte hain toh burst hota hai. So apni baat rakhna is a skill. jab aap client se jaakar miloge tab tumhe apni baat rakhni hogi. lekin woh baat agreeable se start honi chahiye.
You agree on first kisi thing. ek repo create hua tumhare beech mein. Repo matlab connection create hua between kyonki tum kisi cheez par agree karte ho. jab do log same cheez par agree karte hain, wo kya karte hain? ek connection create hota hai. Seriously agree hota hai. It's not oopri agree.
tum andar se agree ho rahe ho ki haan tum kab agree ho gaye? agar tum ye sochoge ki usko dekho kya human ki tarah treat kar raha hai, kitna, kitna uske saath kharaab kar raha hai toh tum agree ho gaye ya ooper se bol rahe ho? tum bhi agree nahi ho.
lekin tum apna mindset change karo ki human ki tarah treat karna is equal to apne level ka samajhna.
ab tum agree ho sakte ho. Okay, ab tum agree ho sakte ho. Same cheez ke liye tum pehle agree nahi ho rahe the, lekin ab tum agree ho sakte ho. kyon? kyonki mindset change ki. Mindset change kiya. toh phir tum agree hokar then unka mind khol ke then tum apni baat present kar sakte ho. apni baat present kar sakte ho.
Okay, then you can. So tumhari khud ki bhi growth hogi kyonki kai baar aisa hoga ki hamare andar anger bhara hua hota hai, hamare andar gussa bhara hua hota hai. ye cheezein dekh-dekhkar aur phir jab humein mauka milta hai toh hum lash out kar. ki aise kyon kar rakha hai?
aise kyon aapke saath kyon behave kar rahe hain? mere saath kyon kar rahe ho, aapke saath kyon kar rahe ho? kai baar. toh wo mere saath bhi hua. maine bhi kai.
shuruat, shuruat mein maine bhi kai cheezein lash out kiya logon ke ooper and that was wrong and that was ignorance tha mera and wo isliye tha kyonki mindset galat.
hai na. Mindset galat tha and plus main bahut pent-up tha. bahut pent-up. So that's agar pent-up rahoge toh tumhare profession mein bhi fark padega. aisa nahi ki nahi padega. aisa nahi ki hum, hum jeevan mein sab jagah pent-up hai, lekin ab profession mein humein fark nahi padega. aisa nahi hota.
sab jagah fark padta hai tumhare pent-up ka. toh apne jo bhi cheezein baat bolna chahte ho start speaking but uski skill rakhni. aur kisi mein bhi kuch samjhana hai agree and then apni baat. Okay then apni, apni baat. Then wo saamne wala samjhega. That's it guys. koi aur sawaal hai aap logon ke?
I think toh saade teen, dhaai ho gaye. do chaalis ho gaye. koi, koi questions aap logon ke? Sunday ko main waapas se memory ko wo kar dunga, revise kara dunga. toh please join kijiyega. Sunday ko raat ko hota hai ya Sunday ko raat ko hoga.
ek-dedh ghante ki class hogi. ghar mein revise kara dunga. thode se clear ho gaye. That's it aaj is week ke liye. Okay aur mujhe kya- ek sawaal pooch sakte hain five minutes agar hai toh.
Speaker 6
mere saath ek challenge aa raha hai is waqt which I want to share here and see if I can see this thing from a different viewpoint. mere ko, mera jo kaam hai is waqt Mukur Bachchan ke through wo hai hope dena ki aapke aur aapka rishta aapke dog se bach sakta hai and us hope ke saath consistently kaam karte rahenge.
jo-jo strategies banane hain banate rahenge hum pahunch jayenge aur bahut saare success cases bhi hai hamare paas. But at the same time is time par mere paas khud hope nahi hai apne liye, apni life ko lekar. toh main equal feel nahi kar rahi kisi ke saath bhi wo kaam mein dobaara aa paane ke liye.
Toh mujhe nahin samajh mein aa raha main isko kaise handle karun. That's something very personal that's happening ki main hopeless ho rahi hoon. Main koshish kar rahi hoon apne aap ko bhi vahan se nikaalne ki to reach to a point where I can live hopefully so that I can share that hope with someone else.
But vahan par client badhte ja rahe hain. Backup badhta chala ja, main backup bol rahi hoon. Back, back- Backlogs. Backlogs bahut badhte ja rahe hain. Mujhe jaana hai, mera man hai, mujhe karna hai. Lekin mere andar vo hope hi nahin hai kisi ko bhi dene ke liye and I am feeling helpless there.
Sunny
Hope, toh tune galat mindset liya hua hai na ki tu hope dene ja rahi. Tu hope dene nahin ja rahi. Tu apna kaam karne ja rahi hai. Kis tareeke ki hope?
Speaker 6
But jab koi kehta hai, jab koi mere ko bolta hai, koi client kehta hai ki bhai mujhse aur nahin ho raha hai ya mujhse mera, mera threshold reach ho chuka hai to work with this dog right now or work with my relationship right now with my dog.
Pehle main bol pa rahi hoti thi ki I understand that. Main compassion ke saath usko address kar pa rahi hoti thi. Filhaal main matlab main sunke na main khud hi ro padti hoon kyunki mere paas khud hi nahin hai is vaqt kuch de paane ke liye kisi ko.
Sunny
Yeah, toh like agar tum khud tumhe agar koi bhi tumse koi soft baatein kar raha hai ya phir apne jeevan ka kuch baat bata raha hai aur tum agar usse ro pad rahe ho toh yaani tumne bhi bahut cheezein pent-up kar rakhi hain. Rona pent-up kar rakha hai. So bathroom mein sabse pehle rona baahar nikaalna padega.
Toh jab tak matlab agar koi tumhe kuch bol raha hai aur tumhe usse ekdam rona aa raha hai. Hai na? Kind of thing yaani already andar bhara hua tha toh hi toh baahar aa raha hai. Bhala tum aur le nahin sakte na andar ab. That's why it is coming out na.
Agar andar tum aur le sakte toh tum kyun baahar aata? Tum andar lete aur ho jaata it's okay. Lekin tumhare andar abhi dam hi nahin hai. Andar tumhara hai hi nahin. Kyun? Kyunki bhar chuka hai. Tum usko nikaalne de toh bahut se logon ko nikaalna nahin aata.
Ho sakta hai you also don't know how to release all these things ki kaise nikaalna hota hai apne like kaise rona hota hai ya kaise aansu nikaalna hote hai taaki clear ho sake. Ya phir bahut se, bahut se log aise hote hain jo strong bante rehte hain kind of thing ki rone ko kamzor samajhte hain.
Ki rona is equal to kamzori. Toh rona kamzori nahin hota. Rona tumhe change karta hai, tumhe badal, badlaav lekar aata hai. Rona is a very good thing kind of thing. Tumhe ek insaan ko badal deta hai. Lekin log rote nahin toh rona kaise ro-royenge kaise?
bathroom mein jaao, darvaaza band karo, sheeshe mein dekho aur sheeshe mein directly apan ko eye contact, khud ko eye contact.
Jitna bhi tumhara rona bhara hoga, jitna bhi gussa bhara hoga, sab baahar aa jaayega. continuously eye contact dete raho jab tak rona baahar nahin aata. Rona baahar aana start hoga.
so jab tumhara rona khud ka baahar aa gaya hai and then tum daily basis par release kar rahe ho then tum kisi aur kya thing andar le sakte ho. Lekin agar tumne khud mein rona tumhara bhara hua hai, oopar tak bhara hua hai toh first fix that thing. Baahar abhi jaane ka vo nahin hoga.
Lekin as yeh mat socho ki time ke hisaab se fix ho jaayega. Time ke hisaab se sirf budhaapa aata hai aur kuch nahin hota aur kuch cheez change nahin hoti time ke saath.
Speaker 1
but phir vo samajh nahin aata vo kab tak khatam hoga. Aisa nahin hai royi nahin hoon, bahut royi hoon. Nikaalne ke liye bahut koshish kari hoon. Cheekhein chalaayi hoon, akele bhi rahi hoon. Bahut kuch kar liya but abhi bhi lag raha hai ki aur kitna wish karna hai to get time to feel now.
Matlab mujhe samajh nahin aa raha. I don't know that point when I say now I am ready.
Sunny
So dekho yaar abhi ready toh tabhi hota hai jab field mein utarta hai. Usse pehle ready nahin hota anyone. Matlab main kisi bhi socializing session se pehle yeh nahin bol paata ki main ready hoon. No. socialize session mein jab main utar jaata hoon, jab dogs aa jaate hain tab main ready hoon.
so that's the field mein utarne ki- and the readiness is not about ready for a dog.
Speaker 1
Dogs ke saath toh interaction mera nahin ruka hai. Vo abhi bhi kar rahi hoon. Alag-alag dogs ke saath alag-alag cheezein seekh bhi pa rahi hoon. Sab vo kar pa, dogs ke saath koi dikkat nahin aa rahi hai. humans ke saath dikkat aa rahi hai ki jab koi human mujhse poochhta hai ki main yahan kya karun?
Main, main, main ekdam matlab abhi mere saath jo feeling aati hai vo stuck vaali aa jaati hai ki abhi nahin bata sakte. Abhi matlab not gussa nahin aa raha human ke liye. Lekin andar se aisi feeling aa rahi hai ki bhai abhi nahin, abhi ruko, abhi mera dimaag nahin lag raha hai.
Sunny
So you tell them that I will get back to you aur phir bathroom mein jaao aur phir tumhe rona aa raha toh ro aur then again start, start again. so jitni baar bhi rona aa raha hai aisa jaise rona aa raha hai lekin main itna ro chuki, itna ro chuki, kitna ro chuki? toh comparison hai. Kaun sa scale hai?
Kisse compare kiya tumne? Itna matlab itna kitna? Matlab kisi se comparison hota hai na. Matlab maine past se itna compare kiya toh past se toh bahut zyaada ro chuki. but anything past toh past hai. Abhi ki condition alag hai. Agar abhi rona aa raha hai, go to bathroom aur is rona it's not a life mein chalta rehta hai.
up down falaana dheekna chalta rehta hai. Rona vona aata rehta hai aur rona aana is a beautiful thing. Rona insaan ko badal deta hai. Insaan ko behtar karta hai, behtar. Rone mein dard hota hai aur insaan us dard ko overcome karta hai aur jab dard ko overcome karta hai usko strength milti hai.
Lekin rone ko agar andar rakhte ho toh insaan khokhla hota hai, khokhla. Khatam hote jaata hai. Aur yeh society ki problem hai. Rone ko andar rakhna. Rone ko andar nahin rakhne ka. go to bathroom, look at your eyes, direct eye contact and start crying. okay baahar bas. you will be okay.
multiple repetitions lagenge but you will be okay and then uske baad start again. Aur chhota start karo. for example dog ko walking se start karo right now agar tum scratch se vaapas se start karna hai. start walking the dogs. dog ko walk karao. Dekho do dog ko ek saath walk karein.
Tumhari buildings ko dekho kitne dogs hai. Un sabko kahin baahar nahin jaana. buildings ko dekh lo kitne dogs hai. I am giving free walk service. so walk do you will feel better and then start again. Toh hai okay.
Speaker 1
Theek hai.
Sunny
Okay.
Speaker 1
Thank you.
Sunny
Chalein. Yeah. okay guys that's it aaj ke liye.
Speaker 1
Bye.
Sunny
Okay.
Speaker 1
Bye, bye.
Sunny
Chalo.
Speaker 1
Thank you so much. Bye. Bye. Thank you.
Sunny
Have a great weekend. Yeah bye, bye. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 1
You too. Have fun with the pups.
Sunny
Yes. Bye. Sunday ko, Sunday ko main pups ke baare mein bataunga. Mujhe aaj bhi bataana tha. Bahut nayi learning hai, bahut nayi learning hai. Tum sab amazed ho jaaoge. Matlab main toh poora amazed hua hua hoon. Bas.
Payu
Aapko vahan par camera set karna padega 24x7. Bahut matter milega vahan se.
Sunny
Aur, aur abhi jaise main unke saath ek nayi technique kar raha hoon. Nayi technique kya karta hoon ki main uske paas jaakar baith jaata hoon aur apna haath vahan par rakh deta hoon taaki vo mere ko smell karte rahein.
Taaki maine ek jagah padha tha ek batakh ke bachhe hue aur batakh ke bachhe jaise hi hue na matlab batakh se alag tha.
Batakh nahin thi. Uski batakh ke bas woh bachche kisi machine se hatch hue unke usko aur jo unko dikhaya usko batakh ke, sabse pehle. Bachche ne apni maa samajh liya.
Speaker 1
Haan.
Sunny
Usko apni maa samajh liya. Maine kaha yaar this is so, this is so, so, so amazing. Matlab jo pehla sense mein aata hai ya uske around rehta hai woh unka sabse familiar hai. Woh unke saath sabse zyada, sabse deep connection create hota hai.
Speaker 1
Yeah.
Sunny
Toh main jaakar baithta hoon unke paas aur paas mein baitha rehta hoon, apna haath rakh deta hoon. Woh mere haath par aate hain. Kayi baar aise haath ko suck karne lag jaate hain, sab karne lag jaate hain. But that's inse connection abhi se banna start ho raha hai. So bahut amazing. Bahut pyaare puppies hain.
Bahut pyaare puppies hain. Abhi thought, pehle woh tiger cubs ko golden retriever ne bada kiya tha woh wala dekha aapne video?
Haan, dekha na. Woh bhi dekhna. Woh, woh kaisa connection hai.
Payu
Dar lag raha hai usko.
Sunny
Haan, kaisa connection hai. Gazab hai. Gazab hai.
Speaker 1
Ducklings ko toh saath agar aap jaise walk bhi karte jaoge na, haan. You will see ki matlab aap walk kar rahe ho ducklings saare aapke peeche-peeche-peeche aayenge.
Sunny
Haan.
Speaker 1
This happens with snakes also.
Sunny
Us video mein yahi toh dikha tha. Maine kaha yaar yeh kitna amazing hai. Woh paani mein ja raha toh yeh paani mein ja rahi. Woh baith gaya toh yeh baith gayi. It's like so such a amazing connection. Bas kis baat se connection hua? Jab unhone pehli baar aankhein kholi tab yeh banda tha.
Speaker 1
Hmm.
Sunny
That is the only thing. Isse connection hua. Koi time by bas aankhein kholte hi yahi dikhai diya unhe. Toh yeh puppies ke saath karna.
Speaker 1
Thank you everyone. Bye.
Sunny
Bye, bye. Thank you.
Speaker 1
Bye. Bye.
Sunny
Bye.
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